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6601717 No.6601717 [Reply] [Original]

>When adults say, "Teenagers think they are invincible" with that sly, stupid smile on their faces, they don't know how right they are. We need never be hopeless, because we can never be irreparably broken. We think that we are invincible because we are. We cannot be born, and we cannot die. Like all energy, we can only change shapes and sizes and manifestations. They forget that when they get old. They get scared of losing and failing. But that part of us greater than the sum of our parts cannot begin and cannot end, and so it cannot fail.

>> No.6601725

>>6601717
Bloom really has gotten wise in old age

>> No.6601728

Yawwwwんん, yeah yeah very original. NEXT

>> No.6601732

Very poignant. Bloom is a damn smart fellow.

>> No.6601735

>>6601717
underestimated this guy big time

gonna check out anxiety of influence

>> No.6601737

Bloom has got to be one of the most intelligent living men.

>> No.6601738

Holy shit did Bloom write that? It's really good.
Where do I start with HB?

>> No.6601752

>>6601732
>>6601735
>>6601737
>>6601738
It's John Green, you dips.

>> No.6601756

>>6601752
what is

>> No.6601759

>>6601756
The picture.

>> No.6601763

>>6601759
no

it's harold bloom

https://www.google.com/search?q=harold+bloom&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=LKFmVZffH8HVsAXA3oHwBg&ved=0CAoQ_AUoBA&biw=1858&bih=1019

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6601767

>>6601763
>google

>> No.6601768

>>6601738
This is how people who like that fat sweaty diabetic fuck actually think.

>ooh HB said something
>I automatically agree
>what did he say?
>he only drinks soured man cum because that's what patricians do?
>I fucking love soured man cum diets

>> No.6601771

>mfw I don't know what he's trying to say
Is John Green too deep for me?

>> No.6601775

>>6601771
If you were a teenager you'd understand.

>> No.6601777
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6601777

>Asked about critic Harold Bloom, who took his own life in 2008, but who has a new book out, “The Daemon Knows: Literary Greatness and the American Sublime,” put together from manuscript chapters and files found in his computer, Green says, “You know, I don’t want to be offensive. But ‘The Anxiety of Influence’ [regarded by many as Bloom’s masterpiece] is just awful. It seems ridiculous to have to say it. He can’t think, he can’t write. There’s no discernible talent.”

>> No.6601782

>>6601775
>am teenager
>understand
>it's still shit

>> No.6601787

>>6601777
He's actually spot on. Is this why /lit/ hates on Green, because he picks apart their abysmal taste, and because he's smart enough to cash in on the YA crowd?

>> No.6601825

> hurr durr immortality through conservation of mass and eeeeeenergy maaaaaan

Jesus Christ give me a fucking break.

>> No.6601833

>>6601787
What happens when Green gets older? Does he just keep writing adolescent novels into his old age?

>> No.6601835

>>6601777
Bloom's old, so it makes sense that he doesn't get Wallace's writing.

>> No.6601837

>>6601787
You do realize that it's actually a Bloom quote about DFW, right? Or are you really that retarded?

>> No.6601838
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6601838

>>6601833
He's got youtube and stuff
Really, that is the ticket these days, getting your face out there.

>> No.6601846

>>6601838
It's kind of attractive to think you could be married to this guy and just fuck anyone else, whoever you want, and he'd more or less be all right with it.

>> No.6601852 [DELETED] 

>>6601838
>"Just cuck my shit up" - John Green

>> No.6601853

>>6601846
He's a thinking man

>> No.6601855

>>6601838
I think this is the main thing I dislike about writing these days. It isn't enough to just write well, you're also expected to aggressively market yourself, and it seems empty and pathetic.

>> No.6601857

>>6601846
Yeah, how do you find a girl like that, one that is also /lit/?

>> No.6601864

>>6601846
Yeah. And we all know Cherios are analogous to people.

As I get older I become more convinced that the best way to spot an idiot is to look for those who constantly make shitty analogies.

>> No.6601865

>>6601855

That's what Green's Crash Course videos seem like. It doesn't look like he's genuinely wanting to teach great subjects while giving his own informed opinion on them, it has to have wacky animation and an irreverant attitude because that's what the teenagers like these days. It's just another aspect of marketing his own image to the world.

Seriously he had that "I'm so wacky" voice that makes it sound like he's dead on the inside.

>> No.6601873

>>6601865
I've wondered for a while whether Green actually wants to settle into writing more serious literature but is just pigeon-holed into doings the YA thing and can't get out now.

>> No.6601879

>>6601838
his fucking face

>> No.6601882

>>6601873
I'm guessing we've got six-eight years for the majority of his demographic to be adults before he gives it a go if he's going to. And then I wish him luck proving he's not a shitty youth panderer.

>> No.6601887

>>6601873
>YA
>not serious
YA literature is the only thing keeping kids reading these days

>> No.6601890

>>6601873
>>6601879

I imagine he's going to write something more "serious and mature" just to keep up, but it's not going to be challenging in any way because why would it

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>>6601887
>IL: Yet the defenders of John Green claim that these books get their children to read.
>DFW: But they don't! Their eyes simply scan the page. Then they turn to the next page. Their minds are deadened by cliches. Nothing is required of them, absolutely nothing. Nothing happens to them. They are invited to avoid reality, to avoid the world and they are not invited to look inward, into themselves. But of course it is an exercise in futility to try to oppose John Green.

>> No.6601895

>>6601887
The kids who only read because of YA are terrible at reading.

>> No.6601905

>>6601873
I highly doubt it. All of his books have been about teenagers. I think he just uses them as a vehicle to fuck impressionable high school girls.

>> No.6601911

>>6601905
Audience pussy... omygod

>> No.6601920

Did nobody tell him about the second law of thermodynamics?

>> No.6601923

>>6601905
how long before his reputation goes down the drain after being falsely accused of rape?

>> No.6601924

>>6601923
I dunno let's give it a shot

>> No.6601931

>>6601920
>/lit/
>paying any attention to the facades of /sci/

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>>6601891
I can't even tell what's real anymore

>> No.6601945

>>6601941
well i know wittgenstein said...

>> No.6601947

>>6601924
>#theroofiesinjohn'scar

?

>> No.6601964

>>6601837
No, John, you are the retard.

>> No.6602051

>>6601947
Imagine someone does this and it blows back up on /lit/.

>> No.6602084

>>6601941
I'm actually watching this now. I was kinda slacking on reading infinite kek due to my own writing projects, but after seeing DFW stutter and make goofy faces for an hour and 20 minutes, I want to read it more.

>> No.6602094

I really hate myself for knowing that I'd love that shit if I read it when I was 16

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6602100

>>6602094
>tfw you will always be 16

>> No.6602101

>>6601891
That's Bloom about Harry Potter.

Honestly, it applies better here.

>> No.6602115

>>6602084
That's what convinced me to read it too. And his writing style is definitely as stuttering and everywhere as his speech. Worth reading.

>> No.6602127

>>6602115
I didn't doubt that it was worth it, and I already started before I watched it, but it has made me more enthusiastic about it.

>> No.6602151

>>6601825
Go back to shouting at those damn kids on your lawn

>> No.6602174

>>6601717
No, they do know, that's why they say it you dumb fuck.