/lit/ - Literature

[Tallis !!y+12CeFwYOo No.6590654]

If you do any of this, please leave /lit/. You are a parasite, uselessly posting tripe.

>you read any form of genre fiction
>you barely know your classics
>you tend to believe that if you like a given work, it is justified on an artistic level
>you think everyone's opinion should be accepted and respected
>you speak a single language
>you read contemporary versions of Shakespeare or Milton
>you read for the plot
>you read for entertainment
>you rarely read nonfiction
>you don't have a solid grounding in philosophy
>you do not at least have some understanding of the Three Tragedians and Homer
>you have little to no understanding of literature outside of your cultural horizon
>you have little to no understanding of literature within your own cultural horizon (muh african authors)
>you mostly read contemporary literature
>you believe 'the author is dead'
>you make your literary analysis proceed from ideology
>you think intricate prose is 'pretentious' and that the author 'should just get to the point'
>your rarely read poetry
>you think Rhythm and Rhyme is just useless rules and laws restricting creativity
>you have a hard time explaining why you like a given work
>you have a hard time forming structured and relevant literary criticism
>you tend to refuse to judge works for yourself, rather relying on the opinions of literary authorities
>you rarely read for more than one or two hours straight

[Anonymous No.6590695]

Easy there patrician.

I have some machine translated Indian phone book recs for you.

[Anonymous No.6590712]

Bro, I just want to thank you for introducing me to John Wilmot in a recent thread. Nigga is based.

[Anonymous No.6590729]

>>6590654
and why Novalis?

[Tallis !!y+12CeFwYOo No.6590730]

>>6590712
ayy, my pleasure

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/44891/44891-h/44891-h.htm

[Anonymous No.6590737]

>>6590654
you forgot
>you are an undergraduate

[Anonymous No.6590738]

If you do any of this, please leave /lit/. You are a parasite, uselessly posting tripe.

>you use a name to identify your posts
>you use a secure tripcode so everybody can separate you from the uncultured masses
>you use the word "tripe" out of sincerity
>you believe that posting on a free forumboard should be an exclusive right
>you create threads asking for attention
>you pretend to be well-read online to enlarge your already hulking epeen
>you believe that the kind of literature you read is naturally superior to the literature anyone else is reading
>you believe that reading should be done strictly for education and that anybody who makes a casual hobby out of it is plebeian

[Anonymous No.6590744]

>>6590654
>you read for entertainment
ah yes, I also take up hobbies I don't like doing, wonderful

[Tallis !!y+12CeFwYOo No.6590745]

>>6590738
Please, get back to your John Green discussions and stop posting retarded shit.

[Anonymous No.6590751]

fuck off

[Anonymous No.6590754]

>>6590745
Says the tripfag.

[Anonymous No.6590758]

>>6590745
A post that both contains a paradox AND is ironic? Wow.

[Anonymous No.6590760]

>>6590737
but op is an undergraduate

[Anonymous No.6590769]

but how do you interact with real people if you're a patrician, seems hard

[Anonymous No.6590770]

>>6590745
>Please stop posting retarded things
hmmmmmmmmmmm

[H.Q.S.S.G No.6590787]

>>6590654
>your rarely read poetry
Who are your favorite poets?

[Anonymous No.6590805]

I was going to complain but you know what, he is right. He is just trying to weed out /lit/ so all that is left is the cream of the crop.

You could at least just not post if you fail to meet this criteria

[Anonymous No.6590811]

>>6590769
you talk down to them and act superior and aloof and mysterious. bitches love it.

[Anonymous No.6590818]

>>6590805
put your trip back on, meta threads aren't even literature related

[Anonymous No.6590824]

>>6590805
Nobody meets the criteria other than himself. Anybody that claims to is just forming their beliefs around the whims of a tripfag.

At least half of the OP statements are opinions with little-no backing other than "people who are not identical to me should leave".

[Anonymous No.6590825]

>>6590654
Kek faggot

[mini eggs No.6590831]

>you read for entertainment
I was with you until that. You need to explain this one.

[Anonymous No.6590844]

>>6590712

Man I love Wilmot, that guy was so far ahead of his times. I assume you're reading "A Satyr against Reason and Mankind," one of my favorites.

I guess the shitposting trip is good for something after all.

[Anonymous No.6590846]

>>6590654
You've tricked me before, you Kraut!

1) Many classics are/were once considered genre fiction.
2) "Classics" in this sense belonging to "movements" referenced more frivolously than "genres".
3)"De gustibus non est disputandum".
4) I don't travel, & Bourdieu sez linguistic capital blah blah Wittgenstein blah blah if I only had the nerve...
5) Shakespeare was the master of Genre fiction... he played to the masses.
6)"Nonfiction" - what exactly is nonfiction if you can't listen to other people's opinions? You're in your own damned fiction.
7) Likewise with Philosophy.
8) If you can laugh at Aristophanes, you're fine.
9) I tried - Abu Nuwas was a degenerate.
10) "Contemporary".
11) "Believe the author is dead" -- Not a problem with the contemporaries.
12) "Intricate prose" - like Annie Proulx shit?
13) Well, if it can't be justified on an artistic level...
14) I'm only open to opinions that influence my opinions.
15) What if I read for two while sucking a cock?

[Anonymous No.6590849]

>you think Rhythm and Rhyme is just useless rules and laws restricting creativity

>rhyme
>a necessary Adjunct or true Ornament of Poem or good Verse
>noy the Invention of a barbarous Age, to set off wretched matter and lame Meeter

[Anonymous No.6590857]

Wait, what's wrong with reading for entertainment? Why else would I do it?

[Anonymous No.6590860]

>>6590738
This post is correct

[Anonymous No.6590870]

>>6590654
98% sure op is asking for frogs

[Anonymous No.6590884]

>>6590654
>>you believe 'the author is dead'
Is this a common strand of stupidity? I posted a few months ago that I thought Stephen King was dead, the day before he showed up at my Wal-Mart signing copies of 11/22/63, and I was just like "Oh."

[Tallis !!y+12CeFwYOo No.6590891]

>>6590787
Villon, Milton, Homer, Chassignet, Baudelaire, Novalis, Goethe, Theocritus, Anacreon, Archilochus.

[Anonymous No.6590901]

>>6590654
>tfw I've read about 4 and a half books this year
>all of them below 400 words
In fact I've probably read around 25 books in my lifetime

[Anonymous No.6590906]

>>6590901
>Below 400 words.
>not 400 pages
nigga you readin' Dr Seuss?

[Anonymous No.6590913]

>>6590891
You're a damned liar. What do Parthians wear on their heads? Go on, ask your Anacreon.

[Anonymous No.6590917]

>>6590870

[Tallis !!y+12CeFwYOo No.6590920]

>>6590913
Tiaras, you bitch nigga, my Leconte de Lisle Odes are next to me.

[Anonymous No.6590926]

>>6590857
To become a real human bean.

[Anonymous No.6590929]

>you read any form of genre fiction
of course not

>you barely know your classics
I am well versed

>you tend to believe that if you like a given work, it is justified on an artistic level
not necessarily

>you think everyone's opinion should be accepted and respected
ahahahah no.

>you speak a single language
four years of latin in school, learning french now

>you read contemporary versions of Shakespeare or Milton
why would someone do such a thing

>you read for the plot
nope

>you read for entertainment
nope

>you rarely read nonfiction
I read varied nonfiction books, from Pompeii to Chinese ink painting

>you don't have a solid grounding in philosophy
I'd say its solid

>you do not at least have some understanding of the Three Tragedians and Homer
I do

>you have little to no understanding of literature outside of your cultural horizon
Asian literature, reading some more Arabic lit

>you have little to no understanding of literature within your own cultural horizon (muh african authors)
I do

>you mostly read contemporary literature
nope

>you believe 'the author is dead'
of course he isn't, he's speaking to me through the vast expanse of time through his words

>you make your literary analysis proceed from ideology
heavens no

>you think intricate prose is 'pretentious' and that the author 'should just get to the point'
hahaha

>your rarely read poetry
I love poetry. Rimbaud, Baudelaire, Coleridge, the list could go on...

>you think Rhythm and Rhyme is just useless rules and laws restricting creativity
nope

>you have a hard time explaining why you like a given work
nope

>you have a hard time forming structured and relevant literary criticism
nope

>you tend to refuse to judge works for yourself, rather relying on the opinions of literary authorities
nope. btw, what does lit think of moby dick?

>you rarely read for more than one or two hours straight
nah

So now we can be friends , OP?

[Anonymous No.6590935]

>>6590849
Tu feras bien, en train d'énergie
De rendre un peu la rime assagie
Si l'on y veille, elle ira jusq'où ?

Ah qui dira les torts de la rime ?
Quels enfant sourd ou quel nègre fou,
Nous a forgé ce bijou d'un sou,
Qui sonne creux et faux sous la lime ?

[Anonymous No.6590940]

>>6590920
have you found any obscure gems off gutenberg recently?

i ask because 3/4 of my readings are usually from there and i love it.

[Anonymous No.6590944]

>>6590901
>400 words.
>FUCKING WORDS.

[Tallis !!y+12CeFwYOo No.6590948]

>>6590935
pic related

>>6590929
yes

how good's your french

[Anonymous No.6590951]

>>6590920
Haha, you sucker! They wear CAPS, you dolt, - & you'd know that if you trusted in ol' Johnny Taylor rather than a Frenchy autistic.

[Tallis !!y+12CeFwYOo No.6590954]

>>6590940
Not off Gutenberg, but there's this poet I literally fell in love with, he is left unpublished to this day due to him being a libertine, --- François Payot de Linières, who was a friend of Cyrano de Bergerac and Boileau, and wrote some funny stuff with Racine too.

[Anonymous No.6590956]

>>6590654
>you read any form of genre fiction
>you barely know your classics
>you speak a single language
>you read for the plot
>you read for entertainment
>you rarely read nonfiction
>you have little to no understanding of literature outside of your cultural horizon
>you have little to no understanding of literature within your own cultural horizon (muh african authors)
>you think intricate prose is 'pretentious' and that the author 'should just get to the point'
>your rarely read poetry

All of the above List Fag Here, Check out my books. Mind you, the list needs updating
Also OP, you forgot one
>You use a Trip, or Name on an Anonymous Image board; trying to distant yourself from others, thus gaining a deluded sense of superiority

[Anonymous No.6590958]

>>6590954
>literally fell in love with
if you love him so much why don't you marry him?

[Tallis !!y+12CeFwYOo No.6590965]

>>6590951
You don't know shit.

[Anonymous No.6590968]

Bye, /lit/. Ever since I started posting on this board, I knew I didn't belong, but I kept posting anyway and I bothered you with my plebness. I though that if I just read more I'll become intelligent enough to be welcome here, but after going through the OPs list, it just seems like too much to bear. Goodbye.

[Anonymous No.6590978]

>>6590948
NONSUMINLINGUAPERITUSGALLORUMTAMENEAMALODICERELINGUALATINA

[Anonymous No.6590981]

>>6590654
Okay OP, well then help a pleb out.

What is the path one should take to become as enlightened as you come off.

[Anonymous No.6590984]

>>6590981
start with the greeks

[Anonymous No.6590989]

>>6590981
Get a literature or liberal arts degree from a reputable university.

[Tallis !!y+12CeFwYOo No.6590993]

>>6590951

[Anonymous No.6590999]

>>6590965
qalansowa ṭawīla - you're idiot hits the same wall you do, with your "cultural horizons" - it's a tall upside-down tulip shape cap, and anyone can tell them by it, like anyone can tell 'em by their stirrups & eagle eye shot. It's these things that ruin a translation.

[Anonymous No.6591000]

>>6590654
>taking a Québécois seriously
o i am lauffin

[Anonymous No.6591003]

>>6590901
>mfw when I've probably read around 25 words in my lifetime

[Anonymous No.6591006]

>>6590989
Well I am already majoring in CS with a minor in Math and reading takes up all my free time outside of Study/Minimal social time. So I don't think that is within my window of reach.

[Tallis !!y+12CeFwYOo No.6591008]

>>6590999
see >>6590993

stop plebposting

[Anonymous No.6591014]

>>6590999
And for the record, THEY put the U and apostrophe in there - I of course meant yore, as in ancient, as in... oh, you know.

[Anonymous No.6591016]

>>6590981
Don't be a tripfag

[Anonymous No.6591027]

>>6590891
Lol he didn't ask for your life story you tryhard cunt

[Anonymous No.6591032]

>>6590891
Embarassing.

[Anonymous No.6591033]

>>6591008
But that... that's the exact same thing... you're using the offending item as evidence... It's a shitty translation.

[Tallis !!y+12CeFwYOo No.6591039]

>>6591033
The original term used by Anacreon is "tiara"...

[Tallis !!y+12CeFwYOo No.6591050]

>>6591033

[Anonymous No.6591051]

>>6591039
Yeah, and like a real Frenchy you're picturing the pretty princess variety, I'll bet.

[Anonymous No.6591072]

>>6591050
did you finish your bachelor degree? Your attitude is quite popular among people who have never confront a committee

[BOOKMASTER !!PsHVceCfQZp No.6591078]

i fucking loe posting on message boards, reading memes, using greentexts, and posting so called « french quote marks » to make my posts more international.

[Anonymous No.6591081]

>>6590956
>lolita sure looks lonely there

[Anonymous No.6591083]

>>6590654
>being a tripfag
>telling people what to do

Kill yourself m8

[Anonymous No.6591092]

>>6590654
>you read any form of genre fiction
Never
>you barely know your classics
Eh. Way better than average. Not the best knowledge.
>you tend to believe that if you like a given work, it is justified on an artistic level
Naw I have guilty pleasures.
>you think everyone's opinion should be accepted and respected
Nah
>you speak a single language
English, un poco espanol, ein wenig deutsch.
>you read contemporary versions of Shakespeare or Milton
Nah
>you read for the plot
Never
>you read for entertainment
I don't read for entertainment, but I am often entertained.
>you rarely read nonfiction
I read mostly nonfiction
>you don't have a solid grounding in philosophy
I read mostly philosophy
>you do not at least have some understanding of the Three Tragedians and Homer
Never read any of them. I am honestly ashamed.
>you have little to no understanding of literature outside of your cultural horizon
False
>you have little to no understanding of literature within your own cultural horizon (muh african authors)
False
>you mostly read contemporary literature
False
>you believe 'the author is dead'
Eh there is definitely validity to that idea I try not to worry about it too much though.
>you make your literary analysis proceed from ideology
Never
>you think intricate prose is 'pretentious' and that the author 'should just get to the point'
That's disgusting
>your rarely read poetry
I should read more of it, but I do delve.
>you think Rhythm and Rhyme is just useless rules and laws restricting creativity
Pft
>you have a hard time explaining why you like a given work
No
>you have a hard time forming structured and relevant literary criticism
No
>you tend to refuse to judge works for yourself, rather relying on the opinions of literary authorities
No
>you rarely read for more than one or two hours straight
Not anymore unless I'm at work.

[Anonymous No.6591122]

>>6591050
PARSE the damned thing - and not the women's, either, but the MENS - i.e. the turban, usually white, wound around a STIFF CAP. That's why I say John Taylor's is the better translation - since he clears it up w/ "Anyone can tell a Parthian by his turban", not Tiara, like a casual.

[Anonymous No.6591167]

>>6591078
I hate when people post shit like this

I'm so goddamn stupid

[Anonymous No.6591189]

Lol, sir.

Capital thread.

It made me wee a bit, as I sit here clutching my wad of comic books.