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Does anyone else recognise individual anons here?

I've noticed the German guy with a pathological hatred of Goethe and the anon who is always shilling Merrill in Iliad translation threads. Any others?

>> No.6588727

>>6588723
I recognize the Communist who always says "join the union, kill your boss"

Also that Lutheran who blows fairweather catholics the fuck out every few weeks

>> No.6588738

is the "m8" and "m80" poster one guy or a handful of aussiefag anons?

>> No.6588742

>>6588738
how nu r u

>> No.6588745

>>6588727
>that Lutheran who blows fairweather catholics the fuck out
waruso link?

>> No.6588751

>>6588745
Here's one recent example

>>/lit/thread/S6383924

>> No.6588756

>>6588751
>>/lit/thread/S6354046#p6354046

>> No.6588762

>>6588751
>>6588756
Notice how the OPs here are nearly identical

>> No.6588788

>>6588723
that one guy who keeps spamming ulysses. gotta give him props for remaining steadfast tho

>> No.6588789

>>6588762
He's hardly blowing anyone out, he's just starting a mediocre argument thread and lets it fizzle out when a few catholics start posting

>> No.6588791

There's one left-wing dude with really great rhetoric that always gets me on the mood to grab a torch and burn shit down and I know it's only one because 90% of the posts coming from the Left here make me sick and he repeats some of the same terms from time to time

I'd definitely recognize the trip with the greek letters as well, even if he didn't have a trip

>> No.6588798

>>6588723

You'll never recognize the truly brilliant people that come here, because they know better than to regularly participate in the inane high-school conversations on this board.

>> No.6588805

The bookshelf thread guy who never posts his bookshelf but instead lays his books out on the floor and edits new additions into the same old picture

>> No.6588829

the one guy who always appears in the john green threads and post the exact same thing every time with the same picture of a dog as jesus or something. I don't remember the quote, but it always ends with "... ?"

>> No.6588848

Gus-kun. Anonsky the Poet. Brandon Carbaugh.

>> No.6588850

>>6588738
There's a fair few of us here m8

>> No.6588851

I think I occasionally see Ivan's posts.

Can't recognize anyone else, though.

>> No.6588881

>>6588723
If it is a troll, it is me.

>> No.6588888

>>6588881
So you are /lit/ in its entirety

>> No.6588905

i recognized pynchon when he posted here

>> No.6588908

The Pynchon basher who evolved from genuine sarcasm to meme

>you will be howling at the moon at the image a man going down a toilet
>you probably think this book is boring right? wrong. there's drugs.
>this ain't your grampa's literature, this. is. pynchon. *kicks you into a toilet*

makes me laugh

>> No.6588914

>>6588723
There's the "Shakespeare and Tolstoy are the greatest" guy who posts copypastas but he promised he would left and dedicate himself to writing.

There's the Frenchfag who likes to say Baudelaire is overrated and contrasts him to his contemporaries like Gautier, de Lisle or Hugo.

There's Irish poet guy, Lacanfag (who may or may not be Deleuzefag), there used to be Monsieur Guy and Sebastian Guy.

>>6588727
>I recognize the Communist who always says "join the union, kill your boss"

Yeah he's a cool one.

>> No.6588929

>>6588908
I kekked. Post some more please.

>> No.6588937
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6588937

>mfw I hope someone talks about me but nobody does

>> No.6588953

>>6588937
>mfw when someone made a thread just like this a year or two back and he used me as one of his examples, but now no one knows me anymore

>> No.6588956

>>6588914
>There's the "Shakespeare and Tolstoy are the greatest" guy who posts copypastas

Is that the guy who would post that high school level essay comparing the two of them?

>> No.6588958

>>6588937
I know you, you're that guy that expresses his emotions through pictures of sad frogs on an anonymous image board and prefaces everything he writes with "mfw" or "tfw" and a ">".

>> No.6588963

>>6588958
>r9k is one person

>> No.6588981

>>6588963
>he doesn't believe we are all one person

>> No.6588992
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6588992

>>6588829
talking about this guy

>> No.6589003

the one guy who actually read gravity's rainbow and ulysses and tries to discuss them with people only interested in memes and editions

oh wait that's me

>> No.6589422

that one guy who has a hard on for constance garnett

>> No.6590991
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6590991

the gas station guy who always posts this picture

>> No.6591028

the one guy who always posts russell brand threads.

the one guy who says all books are of equal literary value in every genre fiction thread

the sam harris poster

and Tao Lin when he comes on occasionally.

also the guy who writes long rats about weird fetishes. I think he's european or something he is never on when I'm on.

>> No.6591030

That one guy who keeps quoting other writers in John Green threads pretending John Green said it to gauge their reactions

>> No.6591041

>>6588888
checked

>> No.6591044

That one American idiot who tries to post in every Spanish thread, but can't write a sentence in the language without committing at least two egregious errors.

>> No.6591046

the guy who writes long rats about weird fetishes.

that would be me. quite 'murrikan i am

>> No.6591053

>>6588723
The Merrill translation is unquestionably the best though

>> No.6591055

I'd probably recognize the namefag that critiques poetry sometimes even if he posted without the name

>> No.6591058

Your man who waifufags Flannery O'Connor

>> No.6591061

>>6588723
who is this spunk punk?

>> No.6591074

Gas Kun said he can't be on during the day until the middle of next month because one of his coworkers was using the same wifi server at his second job at the liquor store posted CP and now his cellphone IP is b&. until he can appeal. at least it'll be quiet for awhile

>> No.6591085

>>6591074
jeez gas-kun

I hope this crowd he is hanging out with doesn't lead him down the wrong path. he's a good kid.

>> No.6591088

>>6588738
m8 is british m8

>> No.6591099
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6591099

i started posting stock photo guys some time ago

i'm aware of at least one other guy who does it

i think of him as my comrade

>> No.6591115

>>6588937
Why would you want to be recognized on an anonymous select all images with soup board?

>> No.6591121
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6591121

the guy who posts lit humor threads

>> No.6591131

>>6591061
gemma atkinson

>> No.6591151
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6591151

>>6591131

>> No.6591165

I'm sort of glad that my quirk isn't mentioned in this thread since that means no one is completely sick of it yet.

>> No.6591206

The one gay who always asks for gay novels
The one cuck who is always trying to force his faggotry by writing cuck in every thread
I fuckin' hate those anons

>> No.6591209

Butterfly is aite I guess.

Nobody knows me, I just complain a whole lot, shitpost rabidly in Christbait threads and talk about genre fiction.

>> No.6591222

>>6591206
>Cuckoo! Cuckoo! Cuck Mulligan clucked lewdly. O word of fear!

>> No.6591226

If you post here often enough that people can recognize you then you need to get a life

>> No.6591235

Sometimes I regret not using a trip because I've posted a lot of things on /lit/ in the past year that lots of people found entertaining/endearing and/or generated activity, but then I remember why one should never use a trip, and then I'm totally okay with my relative anonymity.

I suspect some people may have made connections already because my writing style can be quite distinctive, but I will never have any means to verify that...

>> No.6591236

>>6591209
me too, relatively quiet on this board

but i do get mad and start shit-posting when in critique threads and people focus on maybe one or two pieces and ignore the rest. is it lazyness, reading only the first couple, or are there only one or two people in those threads and they only critique one another?

>> No.6591241

That analytic guy who calls everything 'unfalsifiable nonsense' or 'posturing'.

>> No.6591244

How many active posters do you think contribute to /lit/? I honestly think we're about as big as a moderately-sized vbulletin forum ie if we all had usernames we'd all know one another at least to see by now.

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6591246

>>6591209
You're a'ight with me too, mang.

>> No.6591247
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6591247

>>6591044
You read over your post at least 5 times before clicking submit, didn't you m8?

>> No.6591249

>>6591226
you're just mad that no one knows who you are

>> No.6591252

>>6591209
>Butterfly is aite I guess.
How? She's either spamming the same generic opinions or "trolling xD."

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6591253

>>6591241
Oh yeah, I remember him. He hasn't been posting much lately, though I've still seen this thing floating around.

>> No.6591261

>>6591249
If I wanted people to know who I am id make a Trip or go to Facebook.

>> No.6591272

>>6588937
you are being haughty

or nervous.

>> No.6591273
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6591273

The one guy who always posts I've become an avid reader meme

>> No.6591302

There is this one guy who would always get mad at everyone for mentioning some shit about Debord he disagreed with, but we don't talk enough about Debord.

There is also one of the OTYE faggots who constantly tries to recuperate Stirner (and anarchism) as right wing thought.

Also, that Penguin guy from shelf threads.

Debord guy is a bit autistic but he's hardly wrong in his interpretations. The other two can die;

>> No.6591325

>>6591209
>shitpost rabidly in Christbait threads and talk about genre fiction.
you're cancer killing /lit/. butterfly is cool though.

>> No.6591334

>>6591302

Wish we talked about Debord more often. I've been struggling with Society of the Spectacle.

Also, I recognize one femanon who posts SJW-esque stuff from time to time.

>> No.6591340

>>6591302
>>6591334
Debord is a useless hack and unless you've read early Castoriadis as a gateway into self recomposition of the class you're a substitutionalist in training.

>> No.6591345

dolanfag

>> No.6591349

>>6591334
have you tried watching the movie ha made with selected quotes? it's sort of getting an already highlighted version, you should still read it anyway.

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6591350

>>6591252
Where am I trolling?
>Holding a consistent opinion
Oh boy. This is how real life works.
I have learned plenty, and explained often enough the evolution of my opinions.

>>6591325
>All those Christ posts are bait
So why aren't they reported as shitposting?
>Talks about genre fiction
But mostly the history thread, Greek lit, and yeah questions in the philosophy threads.
Some people bring up Asimov and Clarke, but I'm not fond of the waste of time Star Wars books and let them know when there's a thread.
You act as though I start the Genre threads up all the time. Admit it, you make all those John Green threads

>>6591273
Please stop posting the damn frog.

>> No.6591359

>>6588805
you mean satan?

>> No.6591362

>>6591340
Oh, are you the anon who goes on rants about vanguardism and substitutionalism and always tells everyone to join the IWW?

>> No.6591376

>>6591350
>>All those Christ posts are bait
>So why aren't they reported as shitposting?
>>Talks about genre fiction
>But mostly the history thread, Greek lit, and yeah questions in the philosophy threads.
>Some people bring up Asimov and Clarke, but I'm not fond of the waste of time Star Wars books and let them know when there's a thread.
>You act as though I start the Genre threads up all the time. Admit it, you make all those John Green threads
I was talking about anon when he responded to weak as genre bait and got triggered by the christ threads.

I said you were cool and I meant it auntie.

>> No.6591394

There is one guy who anytime someone posts some sort of criticism of Christianity he goes "muh summa theologiae, Aquinas answered it in that, read it" as if that itself is somehow even worth posting even though it dosnt explain how Aquinas answered.

Like seriously dude nobody is going to read a huge book to understand something they already don't like, next time at least explain what Aquinas thought about the criticism instead of just posting that the answer is in the book

>> No.6591413

>>6591334
I recommend you dwelve into the Report on the Construction of Situations, the first number of the Internationale Situationniste and maybe On the Poverty of Student Life.

From there, branch out to his later commentaries, the rest of the IS journal, Lefebvre, Vaneigem and the other authors.

Then, I'd recommend the italian autonomists, Agamben and post-left anarchy.

>>6591340
Been meaning to read him for a while, but I can't find anything on my mother language and I REALLY have a hard time with pdfs, the only book of his I managed to find seems to be closer to psychology than politics.

>> No.6591421

>>6591413
>Report on the Construction of Situations
Online in glorious turquoise and black
http://www.bopsecrets.org/SI/report.htm

>> No.6591425

>>6591206
huh i guess i do that to troll
i also call people nigger

>> No.6591426

I recognize the crazy fucker who believes in the Flavian Conspiracy about Jesus, because his posting style ALWAYS looks the same, and he ALWAYS shows up in threads when we talk about the Gospels that go beyond about a hundred posts.

>> No.6591442

>>6591421
Check www.notbored.org they have pretty much every IS related text in the only non-spectacular, truly revolutionary web 1.0 encoding.

>> No.6591450

>>6591413
If you can handle English then Curtis, DA ed. The Castoriadis Reader provides an adequate context.

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6591479

>>6591450
Thanks, I'll get it once I have some cash to spare

Why don't you like Debord tho?

>> No.6591493

>>6591479
Debord distracts from the actual task of forming proletarian subjectivity in history, namely, the point of production. Debord's esotericism is yet even more divorced from the cultural experiences of forming this subjectivity than psychogeography.

Basically, Debord is an avant garde, whereas what we really need are embedded organic intellectuals facilitating workers' community's existing efforts are recomposition.

ITS THE FACTORY, INCLUDING THE HOUSEHOLD, STUPID

>> No.6591512

>>6591493
I see. I haven't really tackled Gramsci's stuff (for the wrong reasons, namely, how stupid a gramscist guy I knew is) so I never really went after the concept of organic / inorganic intellectuals.

Anyway, I like Debord mainly for his critique, as much as he claims there is no distinction between his writing and praxis, I think the later isn't as well rounded as they thought it was (probably due to said esoterism, dude was nearly masonic in how he excluded people from his ideas / group / etc.)

>> No.6591529

>>6591512
Put it this way, Solidarity (UK), the UK organisation that was broadly Castoriadian in mentality ONLY had 500 members. Soc ou Bar ONLY had 20 members, and failed when workers wanted to move them to 100. How many do you think SI had?

I've been in bigger left com groups than that.

Praxis is all, critique is a game like mutual masturbation.

>> No.6591549

>>6591376
>Writing all that crap
*Sigh*
I see. Oh well. Sorry.

>> No.6591565

>>6591350
Why does the frog upset you so

>> No.6591582

>>6591030
that guy ruses the fuck out of me every time

>> No.6591617

>>6591549
this is the posts we are talking about.

>> No.6591633
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6591633

That guy who always posts Stirner

>> No.6591638

>>6588929
>Yeah Tolstoy's the shit man, but have you tried thomas pynchon? You've read war & peace, but are you ready for War & Weeeeeed?

>unless you've inserted your penis into a woman's vagina, you cannot appreciate this book
source: i cannot appreciate this book

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6591641

I'm the guy that shitposts all day and is probably retarded.

>> No.6591832

>>6591302
Actually theres alotta psuedo-anarchist idiots that are actually liberals out there that think stirner and nietzsche are somehow right wing and get really butthurt whenever theyre mentioned. I have no clue why, probably because they dont read.

>> No.6591843

>>6591832
They're certainly not for the abolition of the value form.

>> No.6591856

>>6589003
Stop tryin ta steal my identity bro. That's me.

>> No.6591865

>>6591206

>the one gay
>mein sides

>> No.6591888

>>6591529
But theory is itself a praxis.

>> No.6591890

>>6591888
No it isn't. It is a commodity.

>> No.6591894

I recognize that guy "Rei", and the other Mexican guy who is more subtle.

I also recognize an Argentinian but that's because he's an avatarfag.

>> No.6591899

>>6591890
Thanks for proving my point.

>commodities are produced.

>> No.6591904

>>6591899
And you know that praxis only exists in the proletariat's capacity to reject the value form, to negate the value form and its position within it.

Doing theory is like making landmines, utterly unrelated to hanging the foremen.

>> No.6591909

>>6591241
holy shit fuck that faggot

>> No.6591919

I recognize Sammy boi and his friends when they post here. I recognize the guys from dg...

>> No.6591929

>>6591894
ay, sos un lindo!

>> No.6591937

>>6591904

You have a point. But it's not one that will do fuck all unless you stop romanticizing such a narrow view of the proletariat.

>> No.6591939

>>6591209
>Butterfly is aite I guess.
Judging by her english, I do not think that she is native

>> No.6591950

>>6591939
what the fuck are you talking about, you worthless shitsmear?

her english is impeccable

>> No.6591955

>>6591937
You have no idea how narrow or broad my conception is m80.

>> No.6591963

>>6588723
there's some lonely faggot who posts here all the time and he genuinely thinks DFW is a good writer.

>> No.6591975

>>6591963
that's 88% of /lit/ m8

>> No.6591986

I know butterfly and that's it. I lurk here almost every day but this is the first time I've posted in months. I just like to watch you idiots complain and I love "literary lifestyle" threads or ones similar

>> No.6592005

The wallace interview obsessed guy

The guy who's all & & & like a 19th century printer and writes long informed posts nobody replies to

The guy who keeps lazily pushing Little, Big (confession: that's me, and... I haven't even read it)

The one other guy who occasionally mentions Lafferty

The one other guy who's read Voice of the Fire

The guy who keeps advocating reading V. before GR

The guy who keeps asking who the haiku redhead is

>> No.6592733

i like whoever posts stock images of girls at a restaurant on a date with plato's head shopped over them with questions about forms and stuff

>> No.6592749

>>6588956
Yes.

>> No.6592751

>>6588738
I'm not even from a english speaking country and I say m8 a lot

>>6588788
lmao

>>6591350
some people where saying you had a blog one of this days
what's your blog?

>> No.6592753

>>6588723
There are the three Objectivists who keep trying to get people reading Rand

The guy who wants us to think he's Tao Lin

Tao Lin

The Russel Brand fan who might also be the Chomsky fan

The 'sure, Chomsky is a liar, but he makes good points' guy who might be the Russel Brand fan

M8/M80 guy

Married Oldfag, who stopped using a trip

The weird Lutheran who thinks yellling at lapsed Catholics is a victory of some sort

plenty more

>> No.6592755

That guy who always posts with a picture of some anime girl

the guy with the cool sister

>> No.6592758

>>6592005
>The guy who's all & & & like a 19th century printer and writes long informed posts nobody replies to
Who?

>> No.6592762

>>6588723
>the anon who is always shilling Merrill in Iliad translation threads
Outis?

>> No.6592766

>>6592753
>The 'sure, Chomsky is a liar, but he makes good points' guy who might be the Russel Brand fan
M8 you don't understand why people appreciate Chomsky or anything else about arguments & politics. Repeating what people say with lots of capital letters and added emphasis isn't a valid form of refutation.

>> No.6592768

>>6592755
Is that the guy with a /literate sister who gave him an anti-flu drink she learned to make from readig Ancient Greek texts ? It seems that there's some incest subtext between them too.

>> No.6592779

Judging by the posts I read, I think there are a miximum of 3 buddhistfag here that regularly spam. They are the /lit/ equivalent of weeboos.

>>6592753
I recognize all of these.

Then there is the annoying butterfly.

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>>6592768
She's a hottie

>> No.6592791

>>6592780
>tfw no gf

>> No.6592800

>>6592766
He does make it easy to recognize him.

>> No.6592805

>>6591302
>to recuperate Stirner (and anarchism)
He doesn't need to, textbooks always have put Stiner as the father of anarcho-capitalism.

>> No.6592806

>>6592780
I've seen this pic on /soc/ and if I'm not mistaken it was posted by guy who met her on 4chan, felt in love and it had a sort of sad open ending.
If I'm not mistaken.

>> No.6592810

>>6592800
I'm curious how he (he's probably the Lichtensteinian monarchist) managed to recognize me based off of something that happened in one thread. I'm not the Brand poster, either.
If he's talking about something other than the incident I'm thinking of it can't be me, though.

>> No.6592811

>>6592805
Kek, that's pretty silly.

>> No.6592812

Anybody mentioned twenty-five yet?

>> No.6592816

>>6592805
>textbooks always have put Stiner as the father of anarcho-capitalism.
are murican textbooks that dumb/heretic?

>> No.6592817

>>6588738
>>6588788
>>6588789
>>6588791
>>6588805
>>6588829
>>6588958
>>6589003
>>6589422
>>6591028
>>6591030
>guy

Ugh, how sexist to assume the posters are male.

>> No.6592826

>>6592810
Friend, you have a very distinctive way of writing and your outlook on a few topics is notable. Add in two threads that dragged on and on and more than one person in this thread recognizes you.

>> No.6592827

>>6592811
>>6592816
How is it wrong?
Left and right are some of the worst concepts regularlt used but if you had to pick it would clearly be right wing. Stirner is in direct filiation to Jean Baptiste Say.

>> No.6592829

there's that one anon who is a failure and needs to get a life.

oh wait that's all of us.

>> No.6592831

>>6592817
Oh, yeah
The two feminists that the three white knights

>> No.6592832

>>6592829
there are a lot of successful normies here though

much to my chagrin

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>>6591641
do you want to join my shitposting club?>>6591939
>she
since when do we know butterfly is female and since when is she liked by /lit/?

>> No.6592842

>>6592839
i could share my butterfap folder with you

but i won't

>> No.6592844

>>6592816
>>6592811
Whether Stirner is a revolutionary or a reactionary has to do with the practical knowledge of whether a state of unfettered egoism existed in the past.

We can't know this, so placing Stirner on one side or the other of such a spectrum is pointless.

>> No.6592851

>>6592827
Stirner doesn't recognize private property or laws or contracts, he just cares about creativity and plunder. Even when talks about cooperatives of mutual protection, they don't involve contracts, which Stirner mightily opposes. Capitalism is about investment and wages, I don't think Stirner touches on either of those.

>> No.6592852

>>6592844
A state of communism existed in the past. so I'd say Marx was something of a reactionary.

>> No.6592855

>>6592816
I am slavshit and my lecturer has a PhD from Oxford, apparently they treat him like that, I've asked her. Apparently liberal SJWs think of him that way.

>> No.6592864

>>6592851
Stirner implies that we can coexist and survive without things like contracts, private property, or laws. If we were to do away with the fixed ideas Stirner takes offense to, any relation we have between us would be the means to a material or egoistic ends.

This resonates with a kind of american capitalist strawman that sees relations between individuals for material benefit as the base unit of capitalism.

>> No.6592868

>>6592855
Leszek Kołakowski links him to Nazism at one or two historical removes. I'll see about finding the quote.

>> No.6592869

>>6592852
Point taken. By your definition all writers are revolutionaries. How else can their readers be utterly unaware of what they are about to be told?

>> No.6592871

>>6592827
For many many reasons. But the fact that he rejects private property pretty much makes it wrong by itself.

> you had to pick it would clearly be right wing
Either you have not read him well and are basing it on the mentioned textbooks or our ideas of what's supposely righ or left diverge a lot.

>>6592844
I said nothing about revolutionary or reactionary. Just about the anarcho-capitalism bit.

>> No.6592875

>>6592864
Erm, Stirner's spiritual kernel isn't acquiring shit and pleasing base instincts...it's the creative impulse.

>> No.6592882

>>6588723
There are those guys who will derail any thread to talk about Stirner....

>> No.6592883

>>6592869
I think dichotomies in general are pointless, they're just variations on Manicheanism.

Politically, I'd say Stirner thought legal ownership and bourgeois culture and investment and wage labor were hampering to creative freedom, and he cared more about that than he cared about exploitation. It wasn't that he thought capitalism was wrong, just that it was a goddamn bother. Stirner's work is as much an artistic manifesto as it is a philosophy, and if you read the False Principle of Our Education, you can see even more where's coming from. The novel We is very much in line with his thought.

>> No.6592889

>>6592806
In other words, she's just some qt3.14 that people like to use to make their greentext stories more interesting?

>> No.6592890

>>6592864
>>6592868

>As recent studies by Helms have show, Stirner's doctrine inspired not only anarchists but various German groups who were the immediate precursors of fascism. At first sight, Nazi totalitarianism may seem the opposite of Stirner's radical individualism. But fascism was above all an attempt to dissolve the social ties created by history and replace them by artificial bonds among individuals who were expected to render implicity obedience to the state on grounds of absolute egoism. Fascist education combined the tenets of asocial egoism and unquestioning conformism, the latter being the means by which the individual secured his own niche in the system. Stirner's philosophy has nothing to say against conformism, it only objects to the Ego being subordinated to any higher principle: the egoist is free to adjust to the world if it appears that he will better himself by doing so. His 'rebellion' may take the form of utter servility if it will further his interest; what he must not do is to be bound by 'general' values or myths of humanity. The totalitarian ideal of a barrack-like society from which all real, historical ties have been eliminated is perfectly consistent with Stirner's principles: the egoist, by his very nature, must be prepared to fight under any flag that suits his convenience. (_Main Currents of Marxism_, Vol. 1, pp. 167-168)

So, Stirner being associated with the far right in Eastern European academia has some history.

>> No.6592891

>>6592810
Are you the /lit/izen who told the Liechtensteiner he couldn't be a monarchist?

>> No.6592898

>>6592889
Now. But the picture originated on /lit/ in response to anons demanding a pic of that one guy's sister

>> No.6592900

>>6592826
>and your outlook on a few topics is notable
You mean other than Chomksy? I didn't realize it went beyond those threads.
>>6592891
Not IIRC, I think monarchism has some good things going for it.

>> No.6592902

>>6588738
all /int/ crossposter lads post like brits tbh m8

>> No.6592912
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>>6591099
stock photos are nice

>> No.6592919
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6592919

>>6592733
I see you've come out of your cave anon
It's appreciated m8

>> No.6592921
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6592921

>>6591633
i'm afraid we are legion

>> No.6592925

>>6592851
>>6592855
>>6592864
A lot of his ideas are aligned with anarcho-capitalism. And a lot of his writings can be used out of context to support anarcho-capitalism.
On the other hand, quite a few of his core ideas are totally oposed to it.

As mentioned already, there's the rejection of the right to property, which is a core belief of anarcho-capitalism.
Also having a property implies having power over others somehow, either by owning a land and having power over workers, or by owning more capital, which is something Stirner is heavily opposed to.
I won't search for excerpts of The Ego and its Own right now, but for example, he is very in favour of, in case somone has a house with 100 rooms and you need a room, you just go there and take a room cause fuck private property, which is kinda the exact opposite of the "the owner will take care of the house and employ people because wow long term planning is better and wow you can pay rent somewhere else if you want cause market rulz, yay everybody is free" that is anarcho-capitalism.

Which by the way also go quite against Stirner's views of an anarchist/egoist society. Cause according to Stirner's views, is like if anyone gets power over anyone, that actually affects everybody's freedom, and as soon as everyone is aware of that, people (together) won't allow it, not because of any bs, but because simply no one will like to have their freedom jeopardized. And that "power over anyone" includes property, accumulating capital, economical power, pretty much all core beliefs of anarcho-capitalism as well.

So I guess you can take the "state is bad" parts, and the "individual freedom"/egoism parts and twist them in a Raynd-style "yay I'm done being Atlas cause I'm so cool" and try to justify anarcho-capitalism with that, but it kinda stops there.
Which, honestly, part of it can be done with a huge lot of anarchist writers, I guess Stirner's way of saying things just appeal more to rich kids that read just the parts that are convenient.

>> No.6592935

>>6592889
Idk. I think this >>6592898 as well.
But the guy on /soc/ posted other pictures of her that I haven't seen here lol

>> No.6592943
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6592943

>>6592890
>The totalitarian ideal of a barrack-like society from which all real, historical ties have been eliminated is perfectly consistent with Stirner's principles
Belonging to a militant union of Egoists seems pretty cool tbh.

>> No.6592946

>>6592851
Outside moral concerns, the only divergence between possession and property right is keeping to your word of not dispossessing others.

I guess there are different readings to a writer as little systematic as Stirner. But the whole "against morality" attitude strikes me much more as anti humanism, anti care rather than anti family or typical "progress" things. Look at all thosethat namedropped Stirner in womyn or gender studies.

>> No.6592951

>>6591028
> guy who rants about fetishes
Thats a meme. Its not one guy.

>> No.6592954

>>6592925
fuck i can't get the image of some idiot in pince-nez with a receding hairline setting trip wires and booby traps in somebody else's guest bedroom

>> No.6592963
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6592963

>tfw your peculiar eccentricity is not recognized/remembered

>> No.6592982
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6592982

Does the guy who spams long greentext stories on /mu/ post here?

I assumed /lit/ was his main board.

Pic related is one of what I imagine has been 200 or so threads over the last two years or so

>> No.6592984

>>6592005
How's voice of the fire?

>> No.6592996

>>6592954
well, the way he sees things it is no one's bedroom

>> No.6593005

I just know Iran-man

>> No.6593201

>>6592891

Pretty sure that was me, depending what you mean by "couldn't be".

Pretty sure I was right, too.

>> No.6593209

>>6592946
>care rather than anti family or typical "progress" things
In his work Stirner straight up rips the idealism surrounding things like the "family".

> Look at all thosethat namedropped Stirner in womyn or gender studies.
Like who? Even in the anarchist scene people don't talk about him much.

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>>6588888
hnnnnng

>> No.6593232

>>6591246

You are the only other person I've met that uses a'ight. Based tripfag.

>> No.6593251

>>6592805
In the anglophone world, maybe.

Nowhere else. I doubt people like the Situationists, Bob Black, Agamben and RAW would be promoting a fucking AnCap

>> No.6593263

>>6592890
>Fascist education combined the tenets of asocial egoism and unquestioning conformism, the latter being the means by which the individual secured his own niche in the system. Stirner's philosophy has nothing to say against conformism, it only objects to the Ego being subordinated to any higher principle
>conformism
>not a higher principle
>fascism
>not nationalist

If you twist and turn a lot of Stirner, I can see this guy making sense.

Then again, fascism has recuperated everyone, from Proudhon to Nietzsche.

>> No.6593276

>>6592984
Not who you're replying to, but well worth the time.

>> No.6593285

>>6593263
The very essence of fascism was using up the intellectuals. They had it easy under the regime. Pirandello publicly tore his party card and nothing happened to him.

>> No.6593292

>>6593263
>Nothing is more relativistic than fascist mentality and activism [attività]. If universal relativism and action are equivalent, then we are fascist, we who have always boasted that we don’t give a damn about the nominalisms to which the bigots of the other parties always cling as bats on rafters; we, who had the courage to smash all the traditional political categories and to call ourselves from time to time: aristocrats and democrats, revolutionaries and reactionaries, proletarians and antiproletarians, pacifists and anti-pacifists—we are truly the relativist par excellence, and our movement calls upon the most current trends of the European spirit. (Mussolini, Opera omnia, 17: 267–69).

>> No.6593300

>>6593276
Have you heard about the new book? Im pretty hyped.

>> No.6593303

>>6593292
Activism is attivismo
Attività is activity

>> No.6593320

>>6593303
Thank you for the correction. Do you happened to known the Italian word for "will"?

>> No.6593328

>>6593300
Yeah, seems to be a behemoth of a book. If only Alan spent more time in it and less time in comics (I really dislike his most recent stuff)

>>6593320
volontá

>> No.6593400

>>6592855
That's just how American anarchists see any kind of vaguely anarchist thought they can find.

I took a Chinese philosophy class last year and this guy with thick glasses, noticeable acne, massive, wiry red beard, and a whispy voice did a presentation about Laozi being an anarcho-capitalist. The average American's ideas of libertarianism and socialism are both associated with things that don't resemble anything that could be compatible with anarchism.

>> No.6593414

>>6593400
>I took a Chinese philosophy class last year and this guy with thick glasses, noticeable acne, massive, wiry red beard, and a whispy voice did a presentation about Laozi being an anarcho-capitalist.
How did he reach those conclusions?

>> No.6593453

>>6593414
I'm not sure. Laozi seems to vaguely oppose the concept of rational organization of society, which is the kind of stance that Americans who haven't bothered to find out anything about governments other than our own take to mean "He must love market freedom and hate state intervention in the daily lives of the people!" I forget how he worked in capitalism, I think he just seemed to feel like Laozi didn't reject the concept of currency or of capital so it would be compatible with the back-to-basics primitivist Daoist stance.

But of course capitalism as such didn't exist and hadn't developed in Laozi's time and place, so that wouldn't really be possible. I thought he was a little full of shit when he gave his presentation.

>> No.6593456

>>6592768
Wasn't that guy confirmed a girl?

>> No.6593461

>>6591633
That guy that tries to push his sad Stirner meme

>> No.6593479

>>6591222
>>6591425
I will find you and i will kidnap you and i will do bad things to you, very bad things anon very bad.

>> No.6593673

>>6588888
> that guy that always has quints when he posts

>> No.6593765

anyone know the guy who always ruins mishima threads by comparing mishima to peter pan as the boy who never wanted to grow up?

>> No.6593904

>>6592766
LOL!
Pal, I just got to this thread.
You're still thinking anyone who mentions Chomsky without worship is me, eh?

>> No.6593910

>>6593201
>Liechtenstein is a monarchy
>Its citizens recently increased the power of its monarchs
>You think Liechtensteiners can't be monarchists
I guess if you define 'Monarchist' autistically enough, sure

>> No.6593922

I can recognize arrow girl, even though she dropped the arrows and is back to shitting up /sci/ again.

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>>6593922
>girl

>> No.6593939
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6593939

I only read Wikipedia articles on topics I discuss here.

>> No.6593941

>>6593904
Like I said, it was one or two threads. I didn't realize people associated my apparwntly distinctive posting style with those opinions.

>> No.6593955

>>6593910

Well, as I said, the issue is more in the notion of what "couldn't be" refers to. Clearly, even citizens of a republic can "be monarchists" insofar as they can favour a monarchical system.

What I did was analyse his statements - which referred to the EU broadly, rather than merely to Liechtenstein, and which implied both a deeper and broader scope of monarchical influence within the EU than even the most charitable reading would bear out - and wonder out loud whether the systems he was referring to in reality resembled anything approaching those that a monarchist would actually favour.

My contention was that they do not, and that remains my position. The claims initially made, to which my comments were addressed, were along the lines of not having to observe large amounts of money wasted in pursuit of election, paradisaical immunity from the influence of special interests and so on. That these claims were quickly, under interrogation, rolled back to "Liechtenstein recently increased its monarch's powers" only cements my point. Mr Liechtenstein's obnoxious mode of discourse may have prompted him to wave his token of concession in the manner he would a flag of triumph, but that's his concern, not mine.

>> No.6594020

>>6592984
Great gut. The main themes and frames are Northampton and Humanity, but the individual pieces are fine reads even if you care not in the least for the man's crummy English town.
First chapter may start harsh - with some getting used to the prose experiment is fascinating and even actually works.

>>6593276
Hi Other Anon!

Waiting for Jerusalem as well.

>> No.6594181

>>6593955
Listen, moron, I pointed out that the various Monarchies of Europe were in the tops of European nations when it comes to thing s like GDP per capita, low corruption, freedom from governmental surveillance, etc. and that these *seemed* to be related to the power of the monarch
There were two replies
>You can't be a monarchist in Modern Europe
and
>Those nations, are they really monarchies?
I replied to one
"Of course you can be a monarchist in Europe, Liechtenstein recently increased its monarch's powers" etc.
AND
"Monaco is obviously very different than the UK, just like Liechtenstein is different than Denmark, but that is part of the point"

As I recall the reply to the first was silence and of the second was 4+ posts insisting I had typed something incorrectly and refusing to address any points.

Either way, there was no concession made since, yet again, all you did was shout 'Victory! Victory! I am the champion!' for no reason.

Just like here.

>> No.6594225

>>6594181
You can accuse people of not addressing your points but that doesn't make it the case. You do a much worse job of it; as I've already said, when I said that Chomsky being a hypocrite didn't invalidate any good his work may have done, you just repunctuated my sentences and capitalized a few words. That isn't a valid refutation of an argument, and no one in the thread was falling for it any more than I was. Your inability to grasp the fact that a person's moral status can be considered entirely separately from the effect of their actions on the world was the issue, not anyone failing to address your claims. The credibility of your source wasn't as important as the way you framed the impact that information should have had on Chomsky supporters. You failed to make a convincing case for your views on the matter and that was it; you started the shit-flinging, anyway.

You're the last person who should be accusing people of failing to address points.

>> No.6594262

>>6591235
Yeah, the board is better if everyone is Anonymous

>> No.6594293

>>6592982
I would never admit to reading Mira Gonzalez in public, which isn't to say she isn't good.

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>>6594181

Mmmyeah.

>The European monarchies are all in the top rankings of freedom of citizens, safety, wealth, economic mobility, etc.
>I don't need to worry about the NSA, the IRS, the CIA, Ferguson, corporate cash buying politicians, how many billions of dollars are being spent on a race for president or prime minister, taxes being increased to appease a rich corporation, etc.

Notice both that I was indeed accurate in characterising your utopian preachings and that your reference was to "the European monarchies", of which there are many, including the United Kingdom. I responded:

>Which European monarchies don't have prime ministers (or presidents or suchlike)?

Referring solely to your apparent claim that absolute monarchies, with no significantly powerful or important elected executive authorities, are a commonplace in Europe. Your response was:

>Monaco is the closest to what you probably mean; the actual power of elected bodies in European monarchies varies widely

I asked you to elaborate and so began the warbling about Liechtenstein (and Monaco and, uh, Denmark).

>>/lit/thread/S6565246#p6567235

I include all this because of pic related. I can't remedy either your aggressive disingenuousness or your tendency to expend absurd amounts of effort defending ludicrous statements, but I can address the possibility that you embarrass yourself in that fashion and then confabulate memories of having done otherwise, as a charitable reading of your most recent post would suggest.

>> No.6594301

I always praise Tao Lin here, and then people think I'm Tao Lin. I don't think he comes here anymore. Before he started working on Taipei I think he used to advertise himself here a lot. He's my favorite writer.

>> No.6594364

>>6594225
Man, you will do ANYTHING to go back and carry water for Chomsky!
You seem to be missing a part of your brain that allows you to process language.
You have repeatedly agreed that Chomsky is demonstrably a hypocrite and liar. You have been forced to agree that Chomsky willfully admits to misleading his audience.
You've agreed to this over and over.
When you then go on to say
>"But I think he has some valid points"
All I have ever said is
>"Fine! Doesn't bother me!"
But you keep coming back with this same tired bullshit of
>The credibility of your source wasn't as important as the way you framed the impact that information should have had on Chomsky supporters
Pal, I am allowed to have whatever opinion I want about how I think reasonable people should react! I, personally, think that people who know Chomsky doesn't mean what he says and still believe it are morons.
You are more than free to disagree! I've never said otherwise!
Your REAL problem, deep down, is you want me to stop thinking you're a moron.
Sorry, pal: you think Chomsky makes great points when you know, for a fact, he doesn't believe a word he says on those topics. Feel free to disagree, but I will still consider you a fucking moron.
Whine all you want about
>"Well, that may be *true* but you said it wrong"
but my opinion of you remains the same.
Want to know why?
You also utter contemptible bullshit like
>"...the fact that a person's moral status can be considered entirely separately from the effect of their actions on the world"
No;it can't.
No matter how noble your inward intentions; no matter how glorious and glittering the results you INTEND to result from what you do; no matter what pious utterances drip from your lips; if your actions result in death, destruction, misery, confusion, etc. you acted immorally.

Ever hear the phrase 'the road to Hell is paved with good intentions'?

This is especially true in the case of Comsky. You mention
>"...any good his work may have done"
All he does is talk; the only think we can point to are what he says. And he admits, openly, that he doesn't believe critical things he says.

He's like Milli Vanilli; go ahead! Like their music all you want! But don't tell me you like the tall one better and not expet me to laugh at you.

No go re-read Chomsky about how rich people should pay more taxes.

>> No.6594366

>>6594301
Go to bed Tao we know its you.

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>>6594225
>replies to a post about Monarchy by talking about Chomsky from a different thread from a week ago
>says anon isn't addressing the points

>> No.6594381
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6594381

>That one moderator who deletes anything even vaguely anti-Marx or anti-Communist and bans you for off topic posting

>> No.6594387

the guy who always posts what is the x of literature

>> No.6594403

>>6594364
Well, this is a thread about recognizing other posters based on past experiences. I don't understand why you have to bring up the fact that I identify with the anon in that thread at this point. I guess it's a rhetorical tactic just like everything else.
>I, personally, think that people who know Chomsky doesn't mean what he says and still believe it are morons.

And I, again, think that people who can't separate the material impact of an action from the moral impact of holding a viewpoint are morons. But calling each other names doesn't accomplish anything. I guess I'll repay your favor and call you a politically backward fuckboy from a nothing microstate, but that didn't affect your valid points at all.
>All he does is talk; the only think we can point to are what he says
Are you implying that he hasn't raised awareness for causes that benefitted from his talking about them? This is the point where you don't seem to be able to see the big picture and where I start to have an issue with your thoughts on the man.

>> No.6594405

i occasionally notice this one guy who has read loads of krasznahorkai books. he's german or french i think

>> No.6594409
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6594409

this is my favorite frog picture

>> No.6594423

>>6588851
No you don't you uneducated faggot

>> No.6594429

the vonnegut defender and the vonnegut hater who take their opinions to extremities

>> No.6594439

>>6594298
>Referring solely to your apparent claim that absolute monarchies, with no significantly powerful or important elected executive authorities, are a commonplace in Europe.
Hold it. So when I wrote
>"the actual power of elected bodies in European monarchies varies widely"
You heard
>"There are a lot of absolute monarchies in Europe"
?
You stupider than I thought.
See the words "elected bodies"? Only an idiot could think that referred to 'absolute monarchies'.
I mean, sure - I'm used to you being an absolute moron, but still!

FURTHER the response was
>"Can you elaborate on this at all? Fair warning: I am actually European and you sound like you're talking gibberish."
and when I replied asking you, a 'fellow European' if you were aware of the differences between Liechtenstein, the UK, Monaco, and the Netherlands you - lost your fucking mind and went off in a huff.

At the time I just assumed you were another ignorant American pretending to be a European and not knowing the very large differences between those various governments (and based on the comments I wasn't alone).

So, let me answer you very, very directly my intellect challenged friend: the governments of those four nations are all, despite all being Monarchies, rather different in the amount of power granted to elected bodies.

This is neither controversial nor up for debate - it is simply true.

Thus, the question from oh, so long ago was answered then.

I am sure you will no spend many posts ranting about how I answered it wrong, about how stating a fact is not addressing the point, and that while obviously TRUE I should have said it differently.

>> No.6594453

>>6594364
>Chomsky is demonstrably a hypocrite and liar.
>And he admits, openly, that he doesn't believe critical things he says.

When/where?

>> No.6594482

I'm the guy who replies to everything with "that's me fam"

>> No.6594483

>>6594453
Inb4 he posts a link to a book popularized by Bill O'Reilly and posts a Goodreads page with 1 review to convince you that it should be the particular piece of evidence that convinces you never to take Chomsky seriously again

>> No.6594509

>>6594439
>>Referring solely to your apparent claim that absolute monarchies, with no significantly powerful or important elected executive authorities, are a commonplace in Europe.
>Hold it. So when I wrote
>>"the actual power of elected bodies in European monarchies varies widely"
>You heard
>>"There are a lot of absolute monarchies in Europe"
>?
>You stupider than I thought.

Based on your - presumably deliberate - shuffling of the order of the events described, I suppose I can only congratulate you on extracting as many replies as you did.

>> No.6594545

>>6594482
I can't tell if I should read it in an irish accent, like you're saying "that's my fam" or if you're saying that it is you, and addressing the person as fam.

>> No.6594628

>>6594403
>You bring up Chomsky out of left field
>'Why are you talking about Chomsky?'
Next you will be claiming I 'didn't address your points' because all I did was mention facts.

>He may be lying, and he may not mean it, but I wish it were true, so he's a GREAT MAN!
I know. You've been repeating this over, and over, and over, and over, and over for weeks.

>But he's raised awareness!
Yeah, of things he doesn't, personally, practice in order to make money.
By your light an atheist who mocks religion and then goes on tour as a faith healer to fleece people out of their money is just great because he makes people feel good.
No; he's a con man. The goal of the con man is to make people feel good in order to get their money. Them enjoying it doesn't magically make it moral.
The fact you can't grasp that is one of the reasons Chomsky is so fucking rich

>> No.6594648

>>6594453
>>6594483
In a well-referenced book called Do As I Say (Not As I Do).
Giggles in >>6594483 has been forced to admit that the book is accurate and has *also* been forced to admit that Chomsky acknowledges it is accurate in public emails and in public Chats with Chomsky. Also, a great many of the points are public record and easily proven true. Chomsky has no reason to lie - after all, even when he admits he is a multi-millionaire defense contractor who uses trusts and shelters to avoid taxes people line up to pay him thousands to tell them rich people are bad and avoiding taxes is morally wrong.

>I do like claiming a NYT bestseller is somehow 'bad' or 'false' because a particular American likes it)

>> No.6594657

>>6594628
>>You bring up Chomsky out of left field
Again, that's the point of the thread
>GREAT GUY
I didn't use those words and I haven't characterized him that way. I've explicitly said that my opinion is of the effect of his work, not his own personal moral principles or overall worth. You can't make this distinction, it seems.
>>But he's raised awareness!
>Yeah, of things he doesn't, personally, practice in order to make money.
What do you want him to "practice?" Violent revolutionary activity? He's ancient at this point, and he's been arrested for activism in the past. He's been advocating scrutinizing power for decades and been doing it just as long. I'm genuinely unclear on what exactly he hasn't been practicing.

>> No.6594658

>>6594509
Dude, you posted a link. We can all see the thread

>> No.6594671

>>6594648
>Giggles in >>6594483 (You) # has been forced to admit that the book is accurate and has *also* been forced to admit that Chomsky acknowledges it is accurate in public emails and in public Chats with Chomsky
Again, it isn't about whether or not it's accurate, it's about how much weight you think the truth of the fact that Chomsky has a lot of money that he doesn't tell the public about carries for people who aren't as eager as you are to write him off. You consistently ignore this aspect of what I'm actually claiming and rephrase my sentences with extra capital letters, but you don't convince me that Chomsky has never done any good--which is the only claim of yours I really take issue with, and then mostly because you go too far.

>> No.6594680

That guy that always post the same Kierkegaard thread with the same Kierkegaard image

>> No.6594687

>tfw no one recognizes me
>tfw fantasy threads are ignored

>> No.6594701

>>6591121
Love that guy.

Also, assuming that it's not the same guy, the guy who has all the copypastas saved.

Bonus Internet points for the Deleuzefag that used to post here from time to time.

>> No.6594721

>>6594648
>after all, even when he admits he is a multi-millionaire defense contractor who uses trusts and shelters to avoid taxes people line up to pay him thousands to tell them rich people are bad and avoiding taxes is morally wrong.

He's a defense contractor?

>> No.6594733

>>6594721
He did communications research for the Pentagon.
In his (and every other researcher's) defense, applied communications pretty much meant working with the military or not doing research, up until the computer really become common.

>> No.6594763

>>6594657
No, the point of this thread was how some posters just stand out. Someone mentioned you and, well, YET AGAIN you are making a thread all about how I must, *must*, agree that the con man does good work because the people he cons agree with him!
Sorry, no.

The Hilarious thing? No matter how often I say I don't care what you think you keep coming back over and over again complaining I haven't changed your mind!
I haven't tried. As I said waaaaaaay back when I ADMIRE Chomsky because he makes morons like you so very easy to spot! It is a service to Mankind, really. It's like Truthers or Moon Landing nuts - a great way to know who should be ignored.

>What do you want him to "practice?
What, to cease being a hypocrite? That's easy!
When he says that the Military is an evil, vicious, soul-destroying group that no one should work for he shouldn't work for it, either. When he says large multi-national corporations use marketing as propaganda to deceive people in immoral ways I want him to not make money advising large multi-nationals on how to make their marketing more effective. And when he says it is immoral for people not pay their fair share of taxes when they are rich I expect him to not shield his income from taxes, because he's rich.
Ta-daaaaaa!
I've only been saying this the entire time.

>> No.6594773

>>6594763
>As I said waaaaaaay back when I ADMIRE Chomsky because he makes morons like you so very easy to spot!
I find it funny that the guy who can't, and refuses to, make an argument and can only spout insults is so quick to do so, tbh.
>to cease being a hypocrite?
That really isn't what hr campaigns against. He's Noam Chomsky, not Jesus Christ.

>> No.6594790

>>6594671
This begs the question.
If you know the book is accurate (and you know it is)
And you have admitted that it is accurate (which you have done many times)
Why, oh why, do you reply to a guy asking about this in a dismissive way?
It is obvious that you don't want anyone to take the book seriously when you, yourself, admit it is factual.
Chomsky is a hypocrite, liar, and conman. This is a fact admitted by Chomsky in public.
This is a fact you admit is true.

>you don't convince me that Chomsky has never done any good
Hilarious! I have said many times I *like* Chomsky and that I *admire* Chomsky and I have even said I think he has benefited Mankind more than once.
You know this is a fact and you, yourself, have linked to proof.

So this statement,
>you don't convince me that Chomsky has never done any good
Is meaningless; I have, myself, repeated said Chomsky does great work.
You just don't like what I like about him.

And all of this in this thread, and in the other two threads, over the course of more than a week, is about how PISSED OFF you are that I admire Chomsky for the *wrong things*.

This is a fact that you, yourself, have to admit is true.

>> No.6594795

>>6594687
>I- I love your stuff

>> No.6594799

>>6594721
Yes.
He was still a defense contractor at least as recently as 2004 helping the Pentagon be more efficient at battlefield communications, interrogation, and propaganda.

>> No.6594804

>>6591302
>There is this one guy who would always get mad at everyone for mentioning some shit about Debord he disagreed with, but we don't talk enough about Debord.
Hello, anon, it's me. I missed our banter.

>> No.6594815

>>6594773
>the guy who can't, and refuses to, make an argument
Stop lying
My claim: Chomsky is a hypocrite, liar and conman
My evidence; Well-documented public sources and *Chomsky's own public admissions*, all of which you admit are factual.
See, I wasn't making an argument, I was STATING FACTS! Facts that you have repeatedly admitted are true.

See how that works? If there had been an argument, I won it on post #1 of thread #1.
*You* are the guy that keeps coming back with "well, that's all accurate, but...".
Let me translate this for you
>He's Noam Chomsky, not Jesus Christ.
Means
>He's a rich capitalist making money off fools, not a real anarchist

>> No.6594836

>>6594790
>Why, oh why, do you reply to a guy asking about this in a dismissive way?
Because I have nothing better to do. This isn't a proper response to anything I've said.
>This is a fact admitted by Chomsky in public.
Again, my problems are largely with the factual aspects of what you say. It was an *email exchange* that was published in a book, that isn't quite the same as admitting it publicly. If you're referring to something else, please correct me. Otherwise, yes, I admit that Chomsky deceives the public, but so what?
>Is meaningless; I have, myself, repeated said Chomsky does great work.
>You just don't like what I like about him.
You're right; I think that if you 'like' that about a person, and attribute positive moral worth to them because of that behavior, then you're worse than they are. What makes you think that this is an admirable quality? I'm more interested in this than in the material issue of Chomsky, and I have been all along. If you can't provide a solid chain of reasoning here, you're going to have to admit that you're a buffoon.
>And all of this in this thread, and in the other two threads, over the course of more than a week, is about how PISSED OFF you are that I admire Chomsky for the *wrong things*.
Correct; I haven't had a lot to do lately.
>See, I wasn't making an argument, I was STATING FACTS! Facts that you have repeatedly admitted are true.

Further implications include the argument upon which you predicate your approval of Chomsky, which I don't think could possibly be a good one.
>>He's a rich capitalist making money off fools, not a real anarchist
Again, fine; let the real anarchists rip him apart; if that's the good that his work amounts to, that's fine with me.

>> No.6594856

this thread has turned into the gayest thing since gay came to gay town dressed as freddy murcury and fucked faggy mcgee right in the butt while faggy mcgee was wearing a lady gaga tour shirt.

>> No.6594857
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6594857

The heidegger fag who tries to make everyone read heidegger

it's me

>> No.6594864

>>6594733
>He did communications research for the Pentagon.
>In his (and every other researcher's) defense, applied communications pretty much meant working with the military or not doing research, up until the computer really become common.

Well, he's been forthcoming about MIT receiving funding from the military. that making him a defense contractor seems kind of stretchy, though.

I don't see being critical of tax laws benefiting the wealthy and taking advantage of legal tax strategies as hypocritical, though. He might be reluctant to have his tax dollars pay for the sort of immoral things he views our government as doing.

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6594865

>>6594857
YA GOT ME

>> No.6594867

>>6594658

Nobody needs to see the thread to see you changing the order of statements. You change the order of statements even as quoted in the post you're replying to. If this is not deliberate, then you must suffer some profound cognitive impairment; there's honestly no other explanation. It's unlikely that someone with a profound cognitive impairment would have symptoms manifesting so specifically, so... tl;dr, fuck off, troll.

>> No.6594869

>>6594763
>When he says that the Military is an evil, vicious, soul-destroying group that no one should work for he shouldn't work for it, either.

Has he really said that no one should work for the military?

>> No.6594875

That one guy who's never really read any books, he's just here for the memes.


I-i haven't finished a book in almost a year now

>> No.6594882

>>6594857
Heidegger BTFO
>>6592744

>> No.6594883

I started reading Hegel about a year ago & then everyone started reading Hegel
But I'm not everyone

>> No.6594931

>>6588791
Like what terms? It is probably easy to guess what that anon is reading.

>> No.6594948

>>6594867
You're a poor liar
The order is clearly the same
2/10 for making me reply

>> No.6594949

>>6594882

>heidegger is wrong because muh ontology is god given and can explain god lelelelele


oh fuck off, heidegger ontology is important for humanities and antrolopology, we aren't playing god games anymore.

>> No.6594971

>>6594949
>playing Valentinianism games instead

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6594980

>>6594687
iktf
>tfw no one knows my list

>> No.6594988

>>6594804
#heavybantz as revolutionary praxis

>> No.6595442

>ctrl+f
>Chom
>50 matches
o_o

>> No.6595596

>>6588914
>Lacanfag (who may or may not be Deleuzefag)
I wouldn't be surprised if there were others, but this fits me rather well.

>> No.6595632

>>6595596
how do you reconcile deleuze and lacan?

>> No.6595664
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6595664

>>6595632

"Freedom from oppressive linearities" is just another word for nothing left Deleuze.

>> No.6595680

>>6594856
Yeah, but gayer

>> No.6595689

guys i want to get into structuralism and post structuralism.

I don't know whether to read Course in General Linguistics first or Structural Anthropology, or to start from another place first.

wat should i do? there is another place to start with it?

>> No.6595695

>>6595689

Should i read other books first on anthropology? I was recommended the Interpretation of Cultures by Geertz but i don't know if to actually read it first

>> No.6595701

>>6595664
nice try, dipshit

>> No.6595729

>>6588723
Once a guy claimed to recognize me and called me the most boring dude on the board. He said my posts were long winded but would say nothing.

>> No.6595730

>>6595701

I'm just Jacquesing you around, dog. No need Deleuze the rag.

>> No.6595871

there's that anon in the fantasy threads who always recommends brandon sanderson and hates patrick rothfuss

>> No.6595912

>>6588723
>>6595422
>>Capslock Guy, Autistic. A venerable fraud. Certainly better than butterfly, otis, and bachem. Find his autistic posts somewhat intriguing. A complete nonentity means absolutely nothing to me.

>> No.6595915

>>6595729
i bet you could've said that with less words you long winded boring person

>> No.6595986

>>6588937

lit is my main board but I probably won't be recognised. On sci there's a guys(s?) Who recognised me multiple times over many months.

>> No.6597652

>>6594836
>What makes you think that this is an admirable quality?
see
>>6594763
>I ADMIRE Chomsky because he makes morons like you so very easy to spot!

Pretty straightforward, really.
Especially since you are a guy who admits all of the negative statements about Chomsky are accurate (he is a hypocrite; he deceives the public to make money; etc.). and think Chomsky has gone great things while also writing
> let the real anarchists rip [Chomsky] apart; if that's the good that his work amounts to, that's fine with me

Unexpectedly unemployed, are you? Or did a girl leave you? Both? Leaving you with a ton of time on your hands and nothing to do but troll the Chan?

>> No.6597669

>>6591058
haven't seen him, would like to someday lol

>> No.6597779

>>6588937
I'm kinda the exact opposite, I fear that someone will recognize me and therefore I change my style of writing on each post I write lmao

>> No.6597789

>>6597779
No dude I'm afraid that's me

>> No.6597794

>>6597789
Nice to know I'm not the only paranoid person on 4chan, thanks.

>> No.6597806

>>6597652
You have yet to convince me that I'm a moron. When people I think are morons call me a moron, I tend to be skeptical.
>>I ADMIRE Chomsky because he makes morons like you so very easy to spot!
And as I've said, that doesn't seem like an admirable quality. I'm not convinced that you have good reasons to admire Chomsky.
>and think Chomsky has gone great things
Again, you're exaggerating what my actual defense of Chomsky is. My claim is that his efforts to raise awareness are morally praiseworthy in and of themselves, as all such efforts are, whether or not Chomsky himself is a great man. His motives and the effects of his actions are different from the actions themselves, and even though ultimately all three (motives, actions, effects) are parts of the same phenomenon (Chomsky) and have to be considered as a whole, one doesn't absolutely cancel out the other.
I expect you'll laugh at me for being single and call me names while failing to respond to any of my actual points, yet again.

Why do you support monarchism, btw? Just because you live in Lichtenstein?

>> No.6597810

>>6595986

oh wait lol, there are two separate guys who recognise me for two separate subjects that I often (shit)post about.

Also lots of people on /lit/ use m8 / m80 but I have been insulted for it before, so it might be me.

Also I'm the guy who invented the ">you will never go to oxbridge and private school and live the bohemian lifestyle etc." topics.

I'm also the guy who brings the r9k to the lit

>> No.6597813
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6597813

Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams

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>>6597813
HEY /LIT/
WHY DO YOU HATE JOHN GREEN?!

AYYYY
LMMMAAOOOO

>> No.6597825

That guy who really likes Kolsti

>> No.6597829

>>6591919
Sammy posts here?

>> No.6597831

>>6597806
> convince someone hes a moron
Dunning kruger effect prevents him from doing so

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6597882

>>6597810
Post Pepes ITT pls

>> No.6597892

>>6597806
>Guy writes that he isn't trying to convince you of anything
>You tell him he hasn't convinced you

>Guy keeps repeating an obviously satirical point
>You keep taking it at face value

>misspelling Liechtenstein

The guy you are responding to might not be trying to convince you, but you have convinced me.

>> No.6597909

>>6597825
You mean Kolsti?

>> No.6597936 [DELETED] 

>>6594482
that's me fam

>> No.6597941

holy shit the chomsky conversation is annoying

>> No.6597942

>>6594875
Why would you browse /lit/ for memes when /s4s/ has the dankest oc?

>> No.6597963

>>6591222
first line of portrait literally contains 'tuckoo', and you choose ulysses

>> No.6597969

>>6594423
Ivan detected

You have shit taste.

Wolfe is gay

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>>6597882

>> No.6598018

>>6594980
>fantasy list
>no hobb

no wonder you're ignored

>> No.6598082

>>6597941
I think it is proof that >>6592753 got it right at least once