/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.6585022]

>He skips introductions in works that were written 50+ years ago

[Anonymous No.6585028]

>He makes worthless threads in greentext

[Anonymous No.6585038]

But you read them after you finish the book. They're usually filled with spoilers.

[twinshia !b2E8KBMQGk No.6585040]

I like that image.
Sadboys/ Junglean mixed with Lil B and Vapourwave imagery.

[Anonymous No.6585042]

>>6585022
>when I first read this book, I was but a young boy, working in a quiet little cafe in the south of France

Dude who cares?

[Anonymous No.6585053]

>>6585042
>>6585040
>>6585038
>>6585028
Enjoy being plebs & not having useful historical and intellectual background info as you go forward

[twinshia !b2E8KBMQGk No.6585058]

>>6585053
I was talking about his image,
not his post...

[Anonymous No.6585065]

>>6585053
But you can get it afterwards. It's best to know the text first, you can then read about what it means.

[Anonymous No.6585087]

>He lives in 2015 and reads mostly classics from before 1950 because he's too much of a fucking loser to find books that speak to him

[Anonymous No.6585093]

>>6585022
These Pepes are getting more and more elaborate.

[Anonymous No.6585108]

Who the hell skips introductions? I love learning about the thing I'm reading.

[Anonymous No.6585215]

>>6585022
Where can I get one of those windbreakers? Looks cool.

[Anonymous No.6585223]

>>6585058
You're a shitposter and you'll always be a pleb no matter what post you respond to

[Anonymous No.6585229]

>>6585053
If they actually did that from the get-go and not merely be the writer fluffing his own self-importance maybe they'd be worth the read.

[twinshia !b2E8KBMQGk No.6585328]

>>6585215
The North Face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEj8B7kVHyc&hd=1

[Anonymous No.6585349]

>>6585022
>the introduction spoils the ending

[Anonymous No.6585353]

>>6585022
>>6585053
>book requires you to know background and historical context to be worthwhile

[Anonymous No.6585387]

>>6585349
this is basically why I stopped reading them. Just because its a classic doesn't mean everyone knows it and therefore its already to include an analysis before the story.

[Anonymous No.6585395]

>>6585387
>>6585349
>Caring about plot

[Anonymous No.6585404]

>>6585395
>muh prose

[Anonymous No.6585418]

>>6585404
I read non-fiction
I'm beyond that dichotomy, like most people

[Anonymous No.6585499]

>>6585053

It was definitely helpful before I read, say, Nostromo but introductions are hard to get a lot out before you've read the text yourself and know exactly what the introductor is referring to.

[Anonymous No.6585500]

>>6585022
>he listens to meme rap unironically

[Anonymous No.6585685]

>>6585053
>he posts a pic of the "great" uneducated

[Anonymous No.6585727]

>>6585685
He's actually a classics major

[Anonymous No.6585739]

>>6585022
Long introductions kill my desire to read.

[Anonymous No.6585750]

>>6585022
Yung Pepean

[Anonymous No.6585755]

>>6585022
>he doesn't read books that are eternally accessible and relevant

[Anonymous No.6586313]

>>6585022
He likes having the interpretation of some random translator hoisted on him. He doesn't want to read the unadulterated author.

[Anonymous No.6586314]

>tfw the intro is more interesting than the book
should have become an english major

[Anonymous No.6586344]

>>6585418
Non-fiction is still fiction. It still has a plot.

[Anonymous No.6586372]

>>6586313
>having less than 30 years scholarship of an ancient language
>being fluent in the memes of a long dead culture that have been pieced together from fragments that are only half as old as the civilization

[Anonymous No.6586378]

>>6586344
That's a broad generalization. I wasn't aware that having a plot or having prose was part of what made something fictional.

[Anonymous No.6586477]

>book is anti-marxist/antisemitic
>intro tells you why the book is wrong before you read it

[Anonymous No.6586482]

I remember playing the same video game pepe is playing when i was a wee lad. But i don't recall the name of it... anyone?

[Anonymous No.6587654]

I hate all of you.

[Anonymous No.6587669]

>>6586378

The words are not the event, merely an interpretation. Naturally some words guide your mind closer to the truth than others but it is still not a personal experience.

[Anonymous No.6587750]

>>6585395
I really don't understand people who read classics regardless of the plot. I mean, I can appreciate good writing, but if the story sucks then I'm just not interested. /lit/ made fun of me for buying prose translations of The Iliad and The Odyssey, but poetry really isn't my thing, and I just wanted to know the story. I guess it's just a personal preference and people are going to value either plot, writing, or a good combination of both.

[Anonymous No.6587830]

>>6586344
>Non-fiction is still fiction.

[Anonymous No.6587848]

>>6587750
>buying the Iliad
I'm pretty sure its out of copyright anon and anyone can talk about it.

[Anonymous No.6587857]

>>6586482
real life

[Anonymous No.6587892]

>>6587848
there's still production and shipping costs

[Anonymous No.6588073]

>>6585022
where did you get this dank sadboys pepe!?

[Anonymous No.6588078]

>>6585022
>he reads introductions instead of a book of secondary lit and then the translator's preface before going straight to content

[Anonymous No.6588161]

>>6587669
>The words are not the event, merely an interpretation
That isn't what makes something fiction, that's what makes something written. You're full of shit.

[Anonymous No.6588199]

>>6585404

>false dichotomy

Fucking retard. Neither plot nor prose are the most important aspects of fiction. The characters are.

[Anonymous No.6588207]

>>6585727
lol? He didn't go to university.

>>6586314
In terms of interesting and compact information I completely agree that most of the time the, 5-10 pages of introduction are more interesting than almost any 5-10 page stretch in the narrative.

[Anonymous No.6588261]

>>6588199
Characters are what make up the plot.

If anything is the most important aspect it's theme, which every other aspect is meant to serve.

[Anonymous No.6588524]

>>6588199
>>6588261
Maybe the most important aspect of a given novel is somewhat subjective and can't be relegated to a single, all-important trait that should universally determine the focus of literature.

[Anonymous No.6588533]

>>6588524
Good literature has careful construction like anything else, it's all symbols at the end of the day - arranged in whatever way fits the authors temperament - but underlying all of those symbols is theme, what the author is trying to convey be it consciously or unconsciously.

[Anonymous No.6588561]

>>6588524
That's why conversations about the 'best' part of a pure narrative structure are absurd.
"This book has a good plot that adds a lot to its impact" is a sentence that makes sense, but you can't just say "Plot isn't good and doesn't add to the impact of books." Nor can those negations be predicated of any other pure narrative element (prose rather than examples thereof, characterization and not characters themselves, etc.)

These discussions never go anywhere.

[Anonymous No.6588597]

That's one mighty rare Pepe. Saved.

[Anonymous No.6588618]

>>6588597
http://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/memes/22-strangest-pepe-sad-frog-memes

[Anonymous No.6588870]

>>6585727
You're thinking of Boris.