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6582862 No.6582862 [Reply] [Original]

I enjoy Sci-Fi and fantasy

Watchu gonna do about it?

>> No.6582869
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6582869

The fire rises

>> No.6582874

>>6582862
>I enjoy Sci-Fi and fantasy
That's fine.
>I enjoy George RR Martin
laugh at you

>> No.6582951

>>6582874
haven't read the books yet, gurm just gets replies usually

>> No.6582994

>>6582862
Call u a faggot.

Watchu gonna do about it?

>> No.6582995

>>6582994
Call you a nigger

Watchu gonna do about it?

>> No.6583138

>>6582874
i find it hard to believe that you don't enjoy ASOIAF

it might not be well written but it is certainly fun as fuck. stop being a contrarian you immature little faggot.

>> No.6583146

>>6582862
look down from my ivory tower at you

you're just an itty bitty speck all the way down there.

>> No.6583150

>>6582862
We're going to call you a faggot

>> No.6583160

>>6583138
>She was sopping wet when he entered her. “Damn you,” she said. “Damn you damn you damn you.” He sucked her nipples till she cried out half in pain and half in pleasure. Her cunt became the world.
>Her cunt became the world.
kek I could see maybe thinking it was fun if I was a dimwitted manchild

>> No.6583167

>>6583160
Where was that

>> No.6583168

>>6582951
he's not joyce or anything, but spec-fic (like any genre fiction) is a wide ocean of mediocrity. if you limited yourself to only those spec-fic writers less pleb than martin, you'd probably be out of books to read within a year or two.

>> No.6583175

>>6583160
lol

>> No.6583200

>>6583168
I would have to disagree. Most books written I would classify as nonfiction or genre. Louis L'lamour alone wrote enough to occupy a year's worth of reading. there are thousands of great genre books out there with well written and compelling story lines that appeal to me more than GRRM. this comes from someone who did struggle through two of his books.

>> No.6583202

>>6582869
cool pepe abstraction

>> No.6583215

>>6583200
>if you limited yourself to only those spec-fic writer
>spec-fic

spec-fic is a subgenre of genre fiction, describing sci fi, fantasy, and horror. can you honestly think of 100-200 books within those genres that have more literary merit?

magic realism doesn't count btw.

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6583238

I'm kidnapping this thread. What Uganda do about it?

>> No.6583268

I'm not going to list 100 works but anything by any of the authors mentioned below is top tier and their works number above two hundred easily. This is not a complete list of the top tier "spec fic" writers but just off the top of my head. There are many more and if you'd like a recommendation I'd do my best. You speak of literary merit, but this is hard to define in genre fiction. The works by these authors are all good, I will leave it at that.

>sci fi
Asimov, Bradbury, Clarke, Dick, Miller Jr., Verne, Ian Banks, HG Wells, Baum, John W. Campbell

>horror
William T. Beckford, Robert Chambers, Edgar Allen Poe, HP "niggers" Lovecraft, Stefan Grabiński

>Fantasy
T.A. Baron, TH White, H. Warner Munn, Gene "meme" Wolfe, Ursula Le Guin, RA Lafferty

>> No.6583329

>>6583268

I consider many of these authors as pleb as GRRM, but you did answer the question and I can see the logic. l retract my statement.

>> No.6583376

>>6583268
Gene Wolfe is best known for his sci-fi though

>> No.6583426

>>6582862
Pity you.

>> No.6583623

>>6583200
>this comes from someone who did struggle through two of his books.
They're not that difficult. Try working your way up from entry level writers like Jordan and Sanderson. You'll get there some day.

>> No.6583675

>>6583215
Why doesn't magical realism count?

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6583966

>>6583160
>mfw I write shit like this and still sell millions
>meanwhile, you aren't even replied at "rate my prose" threads

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6584247

That is a nice turtle right there.
What are your favorite works in both fields?

>> No.6584256

Tell me about the fatman. Why does he where the cap?

>> No.6584272

>>6584256
A good answer would be: It sits, because it fits.

>> No.6584274

>>6583675
Because he enjoys it therefore it isnt fantasy

>> No.6584281

>>6584272
Let them wear it, son, let them wear it.

>> No.6584491

>>6582874
>>6582951
Martin his novels before the GoT series were/are fine.
Fevre Dream and Dying of the Light are fine.

>>6583268
>Fantasy
>Gene "meme" Wolfe
k

>> No.6584500

Itt: contrarians

>> No.6584503

>>6583623
It wasn't difficult so much as cringe inducingly bad. I kept having to convince myself that only plebs don't finish books they start but in the end I couldn't read that fan fiction tier slop.

>> No.6584515

>>6584500
Nothing contrarian about having a dislike for his series.
They aren't great to begin with and the "quality" is extremely inconsistent.

>> No.6584525

>>6584515
Mmmhmm that's the standard contrarian rationalization

>> No.6584556

>>6584525
I guess that's why I got fired from the bookstore I worked.
People found me too "elitist"

>> No.6584596

>>6584556
The image of some /lit/ Autist getting fired for calling his coworkers "f-fuckin plebs" for liking Genre is hilarious

>> No.6584617

>>6584596
I'm not disliking the series because of its genre.
I dislike it because it's shit, people only tend to keep on reading series because they've invested so much time into it that it becomes hard to stop.

>> No.6584644

>>6584617
Not me. Stopped after the first book.

>> No.6584661

>>6583376
BOTNS is ultimately fantasy in its archetypes. Yes the dying earth genre is an very cool concept with its combination of sci fi and fantasy but calling BOTNS sci fi would be like calling Star Wars sci fi. They both draw primarily on fantasy themes.

>> No.6585184

Recommend the greeks

>> No.6585186

>>6584661
what even counts as "fantasy themes"

and star wars is sci fi, no matter how cheesy you think it is

>> No.6585253

everyone here is going to cry because all they read is philosophy and "HURR DURR MUH NIETZSCHE IM NIHILISTIC AM I DEEP AND COOL YET"

I enjoy Sci-Fi and Fantasy as well.

>> No.6585278

Reading Mistborn. Pretty cool, tbh.

>> No.6585281

>>6585253
>I enjoy Sci-Fi and Fantasy as well.
WTF DID YOU JUST CLAIM YOU FUCKING DID YOU FUCKING SPOOK

>> No.6586001

>>6582862
If George RR Martin was obscure, people here would hail him as a literary genius.
There is a weird psychological phenomena that occurs when an artist gains mainstream success. Purists can no longer admire their work.

>> No.6586005

>>6586001
>people here would hail him as a literary genius
No

>> No.6586011

>>6586005
>>people here would hail him as a literary genius
>No
And my point is reinforced.

>> No.6586016

>>6586001
>If George RR Martin was obscure, people here would hail him as a literary genius.
I wouldn't. I've called him shit since the 90's because he is objectively a shit writer. That's why he hates fanfiction because it's on par with his writing.

>> No.6586019

>>6586011
No it's not you fucking retard.
I've never liked his series.
Not in the early 2000s, not in the late 2000s, and not post-tv series.
I liked his earlier works, but he can't write a series for shit.
The first 2 ones were barely readable, everything after that is worse than than the nigh-unreadable Gardens of the Moon.

>> No.6586045

>>6586001
Surprise, 4chan is full of contrarians

>> No.6586048

>>6586001
>"Men call me Darkstar, and I am of the night."

>And suddenly his cock was out, jutting upward from his breeches like a fat pink mast.

>Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water.

>The ship groaned and growled beneath him like a constipated fat man straining to shit.

all from game of plebs.

>> No.6586090

>>6586048
Wow, it's almost as if he's mediocre?

No one's arguing he's a good writer you troglodyte

>> No.6586112

>>6586090
>hail him as a literary genius.
>it's almost as if he's mediocre?
I love watching you genreshits back peddle. When will you learn to accept you're just stupid plebs?

>> No.6586241

>>6586019
>No it's not you fucking retard.
Ah, immediately resorting to grade-school name calling. Thanks for letting me know the level of intelligence I'm dealing with.
Feel free to follow up with a derogatory comment about my mother, that will add tons to the conversation.

>> No.6586245

>>6582862
call you a pleb

>> No.6586259

>>6586112
>people here

You missed an important part of that sentence pal

>> No.6586270

>>6586241
>he must be a great author because you were mean to me

>> No.6586914

A song of ICe and fire is pretty fun. I like fun. What are you gonna do about it faggots?

>> No.6586918

George RR Martin will be hailed as one of the greatest writers of our time by every media outlet in existence. And you guys that think you're all so smart can't do shit about it.

Enjoy :)

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6588182

>>6585278
It's a wild ride.

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>>6586048
Meanwhile

>> No.6588887

>>6588182
The magic systems Sanderson creates are awesome, unfortunately he has awful characters, cringeworthy "witty" dialogue, a lot of badly placed exposition and subpar prose. It baffles me how this place can hate GRRM so much, yet recommends Sanderson. Oh right, it's because the former is the popular one right, read by plebs not acquainted with the finer literary masterpieces, and thus it must be shit.

>> No.6588890

there's quite a lot of interesting worthwhile sci fi, but basically all fantasy is shit
i don't understand why the two genres are always listed together