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[Anonymous No.6554333]

Can someone actually 'become' ubermensch or is he just an ideal to strive towards?

[Anonymous No.6554351]

yea they could. The striving is what makes it though.

[Anonymous No.6554468]

the idea of the ubermensch is a carrot on a stick for humanity.

if there would be something as an ubermensch, he would not consider himself an ubermensch but he would strive toward becoming an ubermensch.

[Anonymous No.6555062]

Just enroll in a middling state college, peruse Nietzsche's Wikipedia page, and write a personal manifesto about how nothing has inherent meaning. That's all it takes.

[Anonymous No.6555069]

You just need to be a totally good guy: Love everyone, everything. That's it.

[Anonymous No.6555104]

It's the athiest messiah. Tons of characters in literature represent this concept, this might make it easier to understand: for example, ozymandias from watchmen, or Paul Muad'Dib from dune.

[Anonymous No.6555112]

>>6554333

[Anonymous No.6555117]

>>6555112

[ΟΥΤΙΣ No.6555126]

>>6554333
You need to understand the idea of flux to make sense of it. A man never becomes above man for any more than a fleeting moment; because, naturally, once he raises above the heights of man, he has reestablished the heights of man. Nietzsche said that, in your life, you can at best hope for a few moments of being the ubermensch.

So it's both. You will become him, if you are capable, and then you won't be, at the same complex state of both truth and falsity.

[Anonymous No.6555151]

the overman is mostly just a symbol, representing nietzsche's ethical ideal, in the same way that the city in the republic is just a symbol for the soul

[Anonymous No.6555170]

shut up fags, i've literally achieved status of 'the' ubermensch and therefore i make the rules now, at most you can try to be a mini-version of me but i have the final say on that as well

[Anonymous No.6555176]

>>6555170

go to bed, icycalm

[Anonymous No.6555182]

what what makes someone an ubermensch? what is his characteristics?

[Anonymous No.6555185]

>>6555176
idk who that is

[Anonymous No.6555186]

>>6555182

complete self-mastery and the sublimation of all drives into creative endeavors

[Anonymous No.6555188]

>>6555185

self-styled ubermensch and author of this: http://orgyofthewill.net/

[Anonymous No.6555191]

>>6555104
Watchmen condemns Ozy even if Manhattan doesn't.

[Anonymous No.6555202]

>>6554333
Not if it's comfortable.

[Anonymous No.6555222]

Henry V, Napoleon Bonaparte, Hit-hit-hitty, and Alexander the Great.

[Anonymous No.6555289]

Nietzsche actually identified several people whom he considered ubermenschen. Among them are Goethe, Michelangelo, and Beethoven. So yeah I assume you can actually become one.