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6536086 No.6536086 [Reply] [Original]

lets cirkle jerk around this guy for a while

>> No.6536089

>>6536086
stupid philosophy adopted by mongos

>> No.6536109

I was unable to finish The Myth of Sisyphus. I just didn't get it.

>> No.6536117

>>6536109

I read it, and (I think) "got" a fair chunk of it, it was just written in such an obscurantist way that I ended up fucking hating him for it. That, and some of his arguments just didn't seem like they held up very well, from what I could make out. Might read it again sometime just to see.

>> No.6536147

>>6536086
Camus was a cool dude. Absurdism is kinda silly, tho. A lot of absurdist observations are very obvious. It's very white-guy-with-dreadlocks-y.

Which isn't to knock anyone who finds value in this sorta stuff. Everyone's on their own journey or whatever, but man it is just not for me

>> No.6536168

From what I gather it is to live in the knowledge that 'u can't know nuthin' and there is no meaning to as autistic a length as one can and to feel respite from the lack of hope by being smug about being the only enlightened non-sheep

>> No.6536173

he was my most influential person when I was in my late teens when I got heavily into that existential stuff.

been meaning to reread him

>> No.6536174

>>6536147
Yeah, this

>> No.6536179

>muh nobel prise

Fucking quietist shit

>> No.6536445

I am a huge fan of existentialism, because from an objective point of view, there is no purpose of the universe. (All life aims just for reproduction, as it is a kind of materialized, endlessly self-improving algorithm, seeking nothing but persistence).

Thus, finding yourself a reason to live is all the more important, to not get lost in all the senselessness of the universe and to be able to enjoy your trip.

Absurdism I like so much, because I it just states the contradiction between ever sense-seeking humanity and the ever-sense lacking universe. I like the absurd, its irony. Simulatnously it is the tide I'll swim against all my life.

Fighting the absurd is one reason, why suicide will always be a non-optinonal temptation. I wont give in to the absurd. As Camus recommended, I just accept it and it indeed makes me feel free.

Ok, do what you must and rip my statement apart. I have already won. *opossum

>> No.6536466
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6536466

>>6536445

Just do what you want and forget the spooks.

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>>6536466

>> No.6536533

>Myth of Sisyphus
sucks
>The Stranger
lame
>Absurdism
stupid

>African lit

>> No.6536688

If anyone is interested, try the Fall by Camus. It's a booklet that was released a year before he got the Nobel prize. It's worth a read.

>> No.6536693

>>6536688
no it's not

>> No.6536717

lmao /fa/ is absolutely new sincerity ayyye

>> No.6536725

>>6536533
Christian, go back to church, ya hear?

>> No.6536739

>>6536533
woah, now that's what i call an amazing and enlightening post. would read again and again. full of such intellectual vigor.

>> No.6536751

absurdism:

>camus
shit
>sartre
shit (though no exit is decent)
>kafka
true absurdist

>> No.6536761

Camus is shit tier. He's babbies first philosopher and I hope the redditors ITT take his question to heart and kill themselves because they're shitting up muh board.

>inb4 edgy
Existentialism a shit.

>> No.6536766

>>6536751
Kafka isn't absurdist because his writing still contains hope

>> No.6536768

>>6536761
pretty edgy friend

>> No.6536779

>>6536751
this post is the intellectual equivalent of giving a youtube video a thumbs up or thumbs down.

kill yourself

>> No.6536794

>>6536761
camus isn't a philosopher and never considered himself as such. almost nobody does, except contrarians like you that can't read or understand him.

>> No.6536798

>>6536766
Hope, too, is absurdist. Though I 'd argue there's fundamentally no difference between him and Camus, Kafka is surrealistic in his writing and the other is not. There is also the question of quality but thAts ACTUSLLY an outside factor which people in this thread are basing their answer around.....

>> No.6536800

>>6536766
I disagree. Kafka's writing is devoid of incomprehensibility, any sensation of hope to be derived from the narrative is contradicted by the understanding that the method of communication employed by the text is inherently disconnected from any sort of objective, methodical mechanism, eternally distant from the reader. He conveys this through a textual "layering," asserting a certain circularity to language, bound metaphorically to itself and yet still capable of transferring meaning unto the individual. However, this meaning is immediately met with a subaltern effect of narrative disposition, and the reader is thus forced to feel shame and guilt when confronting the invisibility of the works. Take, for example, the Commandant and the inscription upon the Condemned Man: there is this sense of "enslavement" to narrative means, both an external imposition upon those condemned to defy order, as well as an internal and quasi-sacrilegious possession of narrative on behalf of the individual.

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6536833

>>6536794
Not that anon but this is such a fucking dilettante reply. "He rejected labels man so cool"

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/camus/

Have you ever read any criticisms of Camus or did you just rent myth of Sisyphus from your library and give it a cursory read?

>> No.6536868

>>6536168
>>6536147
>>6536117
>>6536109
>>6536089

oh god... why do i even come here anymore

>> No.6536870

>>6536868
good point, well made :^)

>> No.6536880

>>6536868
I hope its just summer but something tells me that it's the reddit exposure.

>> No.6537590

>>6536868
Watch out everyone anon doesn't like something