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ITT: undisputed G.O.A.Ts

>> No.6527064
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>>6527059

>> No.6527084

>>6527064
Yep, those are definitely goats.

>> No.6527100

Homer
Joyce and I'm not memeing

Those are the only two I can really call GOATs, like maybe Dante but I don't think I would include Milton or Virgil just because I'm looking at entire bodies of work.

Poets are easier, and I think Shakespeare would be one of them as well.

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>> No.6527146

Milton
not even memeing

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>> No.6527158

>>6527100
Joyce is almost certainly the GOAT novelist. Maybe Tolstoy
Poet is more difficult because
>translations
Homer, Shakespeare are definitely up there though.

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>> No.6527168

>>6527166
>haha you have to assume this is as good as shakespeare because you can't read it in the original
just leave m8

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>>6527168
Who said just as good as Shakespeare?

>> No.6527242

why do poeple rate shakespaz so much

he's corny as fuck, prose overblown etc

srsly not trolling

>> No.6527253

>>6527242
Chances you will use a word or phrase Shakespeare invented tomorrow.
You probably already used one today.

>> No.6527264

>>6527242

i no rite

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Since when is Shakespeare undisputed?

>> No.6527284

>>6527253
memespeare invented words we probably use quite a lot today
therefor he is goat
ok luv

>> No.6527295

>>6527284
You can't seriously be arguing that making significant contributions to the English language doesn't warrant some serious respect

>> No.6527331

>>6527295
no, i am not, it deserves a lot of respect
just because it deserves respect however, it shouldn't be deemed goat just because it has influenced the english language greatly

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>> No.6527375

undisputed /=/ your personal opinion

>> No.6527381

>>6527353
I don't know who he is but he sure looks like a Greek intellectual so Im going to have to agree with you.

>> No.6527421

>>6527381
>not having heard of the great unknown Greek intellectual who wrote some of the best literature known to man
Is this what /lit/ has become?

>> No.6527428

Dostoy

>> No.6527435

>>6527168
>implying

>> No.6527448

>>6527100
How is Joyce an immediate yes for you but Dante is a "maybe"?

>> No.6527452

>>6527242
A monologue or soliloquy has like minimum three extended metaphors/themes that overlap polyphonically, and so concisely. And then there's like 10 small metaphors or themes that are not of primary importance and often support the other themes but are phrased perfectly. These could go unnoticed. Then there are the subtleties that are also incredible that you'd need to study in depth to understand.
Read tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow closely, I hope you get it. It's just so impressive all while seeming so natural.

>> No.6527513

>>6527452

thanks dude

say, could you analyse one of them in total depth for us now? I think a lot of people would really appeciate that (not trolling, you sound like you would make a good post.)

>> No.6527571

>>6527448
Because there's no accounting for taste.

>> No.6527806

>>6527059
>undisputed
Everything's disputed you faget.

>> No.6527819

Hafiz.

>> No.6527859

>>6527133
I'm trying to stop watching porn. Please no temptation

>> No.6528304

>>6527242
he is corny because he was so fucking influential every one copied him...........

>> No.6528306

>>6527253
there is a convincing argument for the possibility if shakepeare not inventing nearly as many words but simply "archiving" the words of the common people, which was not common among the rich and educated writers until much later.

>> No.6528378

>>6528304

nah he's just corny bro

objectively his prose is overblown, over flowery, too many metaphors and witticisms. give me joyce anyday

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>>6528378
ebin, simply ebin

>> No.6529205

>>6527274
Britis are the undisputed best at propaganda
>Rant about Crecy when they got completely rekt in the 100 years war
>rant about muh armada when they got rekt by Spain
>...

They needed one /lit/ superhero, and it went to Shakespeare.
Just try and say that you find a non English poet superior to Shakespeare. Guaranteed butthurt. Doesn't matter if you go for Racine, Goethe, Ariosto, Pushkin, they will get butthurt.

>> No.6529227

>>6529205
u wut m8?

>> No.6529262

>>6529205
>Britis are the undisputed best at propaganda

True, they've even somehow managed to make the Germans look like the bad guys in WW 1 and 2.