/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.6521548]

Is this a good fantasy book?

[Anonymous No.6521558]

[Anonymous No.6521559]

nice meme my friend

[Anonymous No.6521564]

>>6521548
No.

Because it's completely true.

[Anonymous No.6521577]

>>6521548
No.
Fantasy is for children.
You don't want to corrupt children with this.

[Anonymous No.6521600]

It's alright. Od testament myths might be interesting to read, but mostly it's no different from any other culfure's mythology. New testament is more grounded. Christian mythology gets referenced more than ant other nowadays so I suggest you to check it out

[Anonymous No.6521642]

>>6521600
There isn't mythology in the Bible

Mythology uses a specific kind of language that is not used in the bible

[Anonymous No.6521676]

>>6521642
>mythology uses a specific kind of language
sez who? surely there are cultures where this isn't true

[Anonymous No.6521685]

>>6521548
No, it's too disjointed and filled only with antagonists.

[Anonymous No.6521696]

>>6521548
I don't think the fantasy genre was around when the bible was put together.

[Anonymous No.6521707]

>>6521642
Im not reay in a mood for arguing today since I'm browsing ob my phone, but wanted to say that I strongly disagree. Maybe next time

[Anonymous No.6521709]

>>6521548
Parts.

[Anonymous No.6521711]

>>6521548

It's terribly bad.
If it was a dead religion, nobody would give a flying fuck about that book.
Most people think the Moses story is something like movies or that disney cartoon. I dare you to read it. It's as if it was written by morons for morons.

[Anonymous No.6521732]

>>6521711
There's three different versions of the Moses story. Moses himself is a boring character but Miriam is really fascinating and gets you excited to read Ruth and Esther, if you can handle female protagonists. Aaron is sort of meh-tier as a protagonist. Remember most of the characters aren't real people but archetypes, as it is fancy so don't get too lost into imperfect characterization I mean the whole Noah's son possibly fucking his Dad thing is just mentioned without explanation and that's the kind of wacky bullshit that makes me love that damn thing. Also that looks like an NIV. Use biblehub. Find better translations and don't be afraid to rely on annotations to better understand context, the book is USELESS without context and was never meant to be read without it.

[Anonymous No.6521753]

> raised atheist
> religion is for the weak
> euphoric.jpg
> but wait what is anything?
> into philosophy
> into literature
> into theology
> learn Latin and Greek
> read all the classics in the original
> read the new testament
> mfw i understood it
> eucharist.jpg

[Anonymous No.6521768]

>>6521732

>Find better translations and don't be afraid to rely on annotations to better understand context, the book is USELESS without context and was never meant to be read without it.

Dude, context can redeem plot, characters and so on, it can't redeem really bad writing.
I'd save maybe 5 books out of the whole bible.

[Anonymous No.6521780]

>>6521548
shit ending

otherwise 7/10

[Anonymous No.6521800]

>Dostoyevsky was a plebeian moron

I love learning new things on /lit/ everyday

[Anonymous No.6521813]

>>6521548
you got'em m8

[Anonymous No.6521817]

>>6521577
>>6521711
>>6521685

[Anonymous No.6521818]

>>6521817

I said nothing about the truth of the book. If I turned christian tomorrow, I would still find the vast majority of the bible terrible from an aesthetic perspective.

[Anonymous No.6521822]

>>6521817

[Anonymous No.6521823]

>>6521780
Old or new? Ending of old is pretty fucking bad. Moses, uninteresting character dies to fill a plothole. Boo!

[Anonymous No.6521826]

>>6521818
Corinthians isn't too bad aesthetically.

[Anonymous No.6521829]

>>6521822

[Anonymous No.6521832]

>>6521826

Honestly I find the new testament to be a whole lot worse than the old one.

[Anonymous No.6521836]

>>6521823
new

what the fuck did I just read

[Anonymous No.6521839]

>>6521829

[Anonymous No.6521840]

>>6521818
Genesis, Exodus, Daniel, Esther, Ruth, Jonah, Isaiah, Job, ecclesiastes, and psalms are all great; there are parts of the Joshua-Judges-Samuel-Kings section that I rather enjoy, but it can get tedious. The law books are admittedly awful.

I think the 4 gospels+acts are good reads as well as revelation. I am not a big fan of Paul though.

That is all to say I think the majority of the bible is actually pretty aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.6521852]

>>6521839
kek...I don't think I have an image to reply to this.

[Anonymous No.6521855]

>>6521840

Job, Ecclesiastes and psalms I agree.

Maybe Esther.

Others I disagree

But I can't for the love of the gods understand how the hell you can like Genesis and Exodus.

[Anonymous No.6521874]

>>6521829
stealing your meme right now

[Anonymous No.6521886]

>>6521840
Paul is the best.

[Anonymous No.6521893]

[Anonymous No.6521901]

>>6521886
I don't know, I always liked Lennon more :^)

[Anonymous No.6521904]

>>6521855
Exodus in the back end gets boring, but the plagues and the harrowing escape across the red sea followed by problem Moses faces as the Jews doubt in him is pretty compelling.

Why don't you like genesis? There are so many great stories: the creation, the temptation of man, man's fall and exile, Cain murdering abel, the tower of babel, Noah, Sodom and Gomorrah, the binding of Isaac, Jacob and Esau, Joseph's betray at the hand of his envious brothers, etc. These are stories indelibly engraved in Western culture; I think that alone counts for something.

[Anonymous No.6521914]

>>6521855
>how the hell you can like Genesis
Joseph's story is literally a season finale.
Genesis basically tells of the creation and part of the beginning of the world, along with an introduction to sin, and the beginning of the Israelite tribes.
How couldn't you love that?

[Anonymous No.6521919]

>>6521874

Here have another dank meme ;^)

>>6521886
I'm probably just a pleb. I need to give him a more through read; I have read the gospels probably 4-5 times each, but I have only really skimmed Paul.

[Anonymous No.6521925]

>>6521904

>pretty compelling

Compelling? God literally knows whatever is going to do isn't going to convince Pharaoh (great name btw) because he himself is making him be not convinced. What's compelling about that? Dropped.

>>6521904
>>6521914

Guys, guys, guys, I'm not saying the material, the ideas are bad, I'm saying they read like sandpaper.

[Anonymous No.6521932]

If it's true nobody knows.

But it's a great "philosophical novel".

[Anonymous No.6521948]

>>6521925
>, I'm not saying the material, the ideas are bad, I'm saying they read like sandpaper.

Fair enough. I disagree though.

[Anonymous No.6521956]

>>6521948

Do you have any translations that you think may solve that problem?
And anyway, are you jewish/christian/whatever else there is that thinks the bible is a sacred book?

[Anonymous No.6521989]

>>6521548
I am atheist and I am sick of this joke.

I did read part of the Bible and it is clearly overrated.

[Anonymous No.6522028]

>>6521956
I was raised Catholic and, to some extent, I still identify as such, although I am probably more of a deist in terms of actual belief. I respect Christianity though, particularly the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches. I am just a bit too incredulous of certain core Christian beliefs to be considered a Catholic; in particular, Christian eschatology is something I really doubt.

In terms of translation, I am not sure. I took New Testament and Old Testament in college with a pretty good professor who assigned the Harper Collins Study Bible NRSV; however, people here seem to dislike the NRSV because it is stiff and not very literary.

I still use the NRSV for study and read from Jerome's Sacra Biblia Vulgata in latin for literary purposes. I think most people will recommend the King James for an english version that is more literary; moreover, I think there may be an updated KJV that is more accurate as the origin was a bit off in spots.

[Anonymous No.6522054]

>>6521548
Ecclesiastes is very good
Esther is an amazing story
Judges is interesting
Matthew is alright if you want to get your Jesus on
Reading revelations at the moment, it's hilarious, and I can't actually believe the reputation Christianity has with this shit as the closing chapter of the Holy Book.

Still, 10 times better than the Qur'an.

[Anonymous No.6522065]

>>6522054
Revelations may be less "hilarious" if you consider that it is basically a polemic against Rome and Nero as opposed to a prediction of the end times.

[Anonymous No.6522176]

>>6522065
Once I find a job I'm buying the Oxford annotated Bible for all of these things, but right now, I just have a regular King James, and he seems pretty adamant on having seen everything he's describing.

[Anonymous No.6522219]

>No elves

Into the trash it goes.

[Anonymous No.6522258]

>>6522176
>and he seems pretty adamant on having seen everything he's describing

I it is no doubt a purported vision; I am saying the vision is of Rome's demise rather than the end of the world. Although, in fairness the Church has viewed as both specific to 1st century Christians and applicable to broader salvation history.

I had the Oxford Bible, and, just as a warning, the paper was incredibly thin and prone to ripping. I have the the Oxford Biblical Commentary; it is just a commentary, but it is about 1000 pages of solid info. You might want the Commentary instead of the Bible for a more extensive reference; it is only about 40 or so dollars I think, which for a reference book isn't too bad.

[Anonymous No.6522319]

>>6522258
Hmm, I do dislike extremely thin paper, but the annotated version does sound a lot easier, as the references are right there as you're reading, I imagine. I'll have a look at the commentary, though, cheers.

[Anonymous No.6522601]

Plebby as fuck.

[Anonymous No.6522629]

>>6522601
is that the one near lancaster? i went there once and asked if they had IJ, not knowing what the store had. they had no idea what i said. that whole area is sad.

[Anonymous No.6522672]

>>6521840
>>6521855
>not liking proverbs, song of songs and lamentations
top pleb

[Anonymous No.6522695]

>>6521548

It's the greatest Shōnen ever.

[Anonymous No.6524104]

>>6521855
>But I can't for the love of the gods
>gods
>>/reddit/

[Anonymous No.6524487]

>>6521642
heuhuehueheuheuehehueheheu

[Anonymous No.6524565]

>>6522219
No but it has alotta jews which according to south park is basically the same thing