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Can we get an art appreciation thread?

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these threads are the best because nobody says anything

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>> No.6513984

>>6513954
>>6513971

A poem of Théophile Gautier, written about this sculpture :

Contralto

On voit dans le Musée antique,
Sur un lit de marbre sculpté,
Une statue énigmatique
D’une inquiétante beauté.

Est-ce un jeune homme ? est-ce une femme ?
Une déesse, ou bien un dieu ?
L’amour, ayant peur d’être infâme,
Hésite et suspend son aveu.

Dans sa pose malicieuse,
Elle s’étend, le dos tourné
Devant la foule curieuse,
Sur son coussin capitonné.

Pour faire sa beauté maudite,
Chaque sexe apporta son don.
Tout homme dit : C’est Aphrodite !
Toute femme : C’est Cupidon !

Sexe douteux, grâce certaine,
On dirait ce corps indécis
Fondu, dans l’eau de la fontaine,
Sous les baisers de Salmacis.

>> No.6513989

>>6513984


Chimère ardente, effort suprême
De l’art et de la volupté,
Monstre charmant, comme je t’aime
Avec ta multiple beauté !

Bien qu’on défende ton approche,
Sous la draperie aux plis droits
Dont le bout à ton pied s’accroche,
Mes yeux ont plongé bien des fois.

Rêve de poëte et d’artiste,
Tu m’as bien des nuits occupé,
Et mon caprice qui persiste
Ne convient pas qu’il s’est trompé.

Mais seulement il se transpose,
Et, passant de la forme au son,
Trouve dans sa métamorphose
La jeune fille et le garçon.

Que tu me plais, ô timbre étrange !
Son double, homme et femme à la fois,
Contralto, bizarre mélange,
Hermaphrodite de la voix !

C’est Roméo, c’est Juliette,
Chantant avec un seul gosier ;
Le pigeon rauque et la fauvette
Perchés sur le même rosier ;

C’est la châtelaine qui raille
Son beau page parlant d’amour ;
L’amant au pied de la muraille,
La dame au balcon de sa tour ;

Le papillon, blanche étincelle,
Qu’en ses détours et ses ébats
Poursuit un papillon fidèle,
L’un volant haut et l’autre bas ;

L’ange qui descend et qui monte
Sur l’escalier d’or voltigeant ;
La cloche mêlant dans sa fonte
La voix d’airain, la voix d’argent ;

La mélodie et l’harmonie,
Le chant et l’accompagnement ;
A la grâce la force unie,
La maîtresse embrassant l’amant !

Sur le pli de sa jupe assise,
Ce soir, ce sera Cendrillon
Causant prés du feu qu’elle attise
Avec son ami le grillon ;

Demain le valeureux Arsace
A son courroux donnant l’essor,
Ou Tancrède avec sa cuirasse,
Son épée et son casque d’or ;

Desdemona chantant le Saule,
Zerline bernant Mazetto,
Ou Malcolm le plaid sur l’épaule ;
C’est toi que j’aime, ô contralto !

Nature charmante et bizarre
Que Dieu d’un double attrait para,
Toi qui pourrais, comme Gulnare,
Etre le Kaled d’un Lara,

Et dont la voix, dans sa caresse,
Réveillant le coeur endormi,
Mêle aux soupirs de la maîtresse
L’accent plus mâle de l’ami !

>> No.6513992

anyone got any painting tips?

>> No.6513996

>>6513972
Fuck off

>> No.6514012

MORE LIKE FART LMAO

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Another rothko

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>>6513996
More Rothko to infuriate you

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>>6513954
>>6513971

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This is in a nearby church

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>> No.6514049

>>6513879
All of the DQ inspired art is god tier

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Where my Fragonard fans at?

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god tier art book

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>> No.6514083

>>6514076
really like this one, it's the cover of the version i have of Confessions of anEenglish Opium Eater

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>>6513864
i'm always late to the party
not his best work but peeling off the gloves is saying something

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Courbet have a lot of very fascinating paints (sadly, nowadays, people just know his Origine du monde....).

>> No.6514102

>>6514096
Is it that he's going to finger her?

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>> No.6514107

>>6514026
fuck off with the gay rothko kandinsky shit

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>>6513864
>tfw the captcha tells you to pick all the ice cream
>tfw there is only one ice cream

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>> No.6514129

>>6514118
Jesus Christ just stop

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>> No.6514160

>>6514118
This is an art appreciation thread. No one here appreciates this except for you, so stop posting these dumb paintings.

>> No.6514166

>>6513954
>>6513971
i'm glad you posted this

it's been my screensaver for laptop/phone for several years

>> No.6514174

>>6514102
You ... hahahaha
Waite i'll greentext a story for ya

>> No.6514178

>>6514129
>disliking pollack
Oh boy

>> No.6514217

>>6514160
>not liking Pollock
W-what? Am I on /ic/?

This is great stuff, take your time to look at it. I'm sure I'm not the one that appreciates it here.

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>>6513864

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>>6514226

>> No.6514236

>>6514217
I don't get it. What is there to appreciate about it? How is it pleasing to look at? I'm not being snarky here; I'm genuinely curious now. Please help me understand how you find these smears of paint pleasing.

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>> No.6514247

>>6514236

If you have to ask, you can't know. You just have to feel it.

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>>6514226
>>6514233
>>6514237
I quite like these anon. thank you for sharing.

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Has anyone read Robert Hughes on Goya?

>> No.6514257

>>6514160
I'm enjoying it, although you can only really get into a Pollock in person.

>> No.6514263

>>6514236
Unfocus your eyes, see the perspective expand

Alternatively, take drugs someday and you'll figure it out

>> No.6514269

>>6514178
>>6514217
I'm sure they're just trying to make up for the lack of /pol/

>> No.6514274

>>6514236
The more you look at it, the more colors you find, the more shapes you find, you beggining to imagine the path of his stick dropping the paint, but when you try to follow it in a linear fashion you get lost really easy. Sometimes you're drawn to look at the whole thing at once as a single mass, sometimes you focus on an area and then move to another. You can search for the first layers of paint as if you were looking at the darkest point in the night sky. There is energy and motion all throughout the canvas, nothing looks static, there is no place to settle down. I don't know, it's just beautiful to look at. If you have the chance to see one of the best ones live, do it. I was shocked the first time I saw it, it has a massive presence.

>> No.6514288

>>6514274
They need to start doing high quality 3d scans of paintings, because being able to see the actual depth of the brushstrokes really adds to it.

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>>6514102
>she is a delicate little flower
>he is into BDSM
>she is not
>he probably will rip her dress off
>bound her tightly
>and slap her butt cheeks
>pull her hair
>kisse her neck softly
>massage the shoulders pleasantly
>squeeze the titties
>suck on them sweetly
>pinch the nipples gently
>touch her thighs fondly
>slip his hand under her panties and rub the clit
>take his time he will not rush things
>remove her panties
>strok her gently with her panties
>suck the clit he will suck it like he means it
>finger the wet pink cat
>crazy orgasm.exe
>spread her legs and conquer
>but it can be problematic
>as some of'em like it rough and dirty
>others like it gentle

>> No.6514294

>>6514247
>>6514263
>>6514274
>>6514288
Okay I think I'm starting to understand now.

>> No.6514298

>>6514257
same. My local museum has a room with rothko painting across each other and a huge pollock in the wall between them. It's overwhelming. (and the museum is free)

>> No.6514315

>>6514293
Noice.

>> No.6514320

>>6514288
Yeah, I think there is somewhere, but anyway you wouldn't be able to post on /lit/ anyway. I have a big collection of paintings in high res, but I'm lazy to contribute to the art threads because I have to shrink them down or find them someplace else. That being said, I think it is better for people to just move their asses and go more to the museums. High res is great, I'm addicted to it and all for its spread but it can also give the illusion that it substitutes the real piece.

/hr/ has nice art threads sometimes.

>> No.6514331

>>6514236
There is no focal point.

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Why just traditional art, OP? Why not modern art too?

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>>6514735

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>>6514751

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>>6514761

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>>6514772

>> No.6514779

>>6514735
Because these images you are posting are just kitsch (in the bad, pre-Nerdrum sense of the term) and degenerate. They appeal to our most immediate, superficial senses, and have no touch upon our true aesthetic sense whatsoever. They're just like a pornographic magazine. Comparing these images to the works of the Old Maters is like comparing Rolling Stones lyrics to Guido Cavalcanti.

This thread has its own image limit, as you very well known, and it's just bad behavior to post this sort of images here.

If you want to share these things, Reddit's /r/pics is a good place for it, or deviantart, or your Facebook wall.

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>>6514779
You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.

If anything, most traditional paintings have less aesthetic bearing on civilization at this point than the images I'm posting. That's why this stuff is being made, and that stuff no longer is.

>> No.6514801

>>6514779
>degenerate
>>>/pol/
Note: This is not a defense of vidya

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>>6514794

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>>6514053
Not a fan, but.

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>>6514804

>> No.6514846

>>6514735
>>6514751
>>6514761
>>6514794
>>6514804
etc.

wtf. It's ugly and cold, really.

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>>6514846
Most, not all though.

>> No.6514865

>>6514735
>"modern art 99284.bmp"
>doesn't know what modern art is
>doesn't know what illustration is
are those video games? lol.

I would those photobashed shits over squiggly lines and blocks of color any day though

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does /ic/ talk about and post art?
because /lit/ is the absolute worst at it

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>>6514865
Why so small minded?

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>>6514923

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in /lit/ and /art/ news, the Guggenheim has put up digital reproductions of nearly 200 books. mostly catalogs, books on individual artists, movements and some theory.

reading the Kandinsky presently

https://archive.org/details/guggenheimmuseum?&sort=-downloads&page=3

>> No.6514934

>>6514735
>>6514751
>>6514761
>>6514772
>>6514776
>>6514794
>>6514804
>>6514830
>>6514861

Ice cold nigga. This is how to handle off topic threads.

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>>6514927

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>>6514016
It's upside down.

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>>6513971
THATS A MAN, BABY

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>>6514938

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>>6514927
The better of these "modern art" posts.
Seriously, lay off the video game cut scenes
You have any of those Spectrum books?

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>>6513864

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>>6514966
Maybe it's supposed to be Hermaphroditus

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>>6514996
Already been posted... >>6514041
Or is it a different one?

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>>6515008
Same, I just missed it.

>> No.6515026

>>6515001
>>6515008
well somebody's gotta do it
why are you posting pain swatches?

>> No.6515033

>>6514934
it really is such fucking cruel trolling though

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>>6515018

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Isn't this one just brilliant?

>> No.6515054

>>6515042
I went for the first on the right for my bathroom.

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I'm big on gloomy depictions of urban landscapes.

I've been thinking about getting some cheap prints of paintings I like and hanging them around my room. Do you guys think it would look tacky if I got like 3 8x10 prints hung up on my wall?

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>>6514991
You only think it's better because the content is more relaxed than the others, but they all demonstrate a unique and interesting vibe worth indulging in and praising.

>> No.6515076

>>6515070
Sam, don't you have Feminists and Statists to make fun of?

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>>6515059
familiar with Whistler?

but yeah it'd look lame. no one can afford real paintings so at least chip in to get a nicely printed reproduction.

>> No.6515080

>>6515070
Just die

>> No.6515082

/lit/ /sci/ and /ic/ should merge to be the ultimate patrician board

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>>6515079
No but I like its vibe.

Any recommendation on where to get prints?

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>> No.6515107
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>>6515076
>>6515080
Do you niggas really think I'm joking with this?

You are living in a godless age where individualism and personal achievement is praised above all else. Philosophically, and technologically, video games are the most advanced kind of art you can partake in currently. There is a passive aspect to it, like all prior art has, but there is also an interactive aspect which demands things from you and makes you experience things other art couldn't possibly offer you. And overall, the medium worships individualism, personal achievement, and adventure better than other mediums because of this interactive element.

>> No.6515114
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>>6515070
Some commercial artists can put out some decent stuff, but some of those posts of yours were just boring CG scenes. They mean nothing.
>Solid Snake stands in a field.
[zzzzzz]
That one you posted is okay, better than a lot of the posts above, but he's no Drew Struzan

>> No.6515119

>>6515107
Art is made to convey emotion, and videogames are made for profit to occupy and amuse a mindless audience.

Art stimulates thought, videogames stifle it.

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>>6515105
I don't get it. Was she a stripper and the cop is gonna cart her off to jail for showing too much?

>> No.6515129
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>>6515096
you could probably go to your town's photography/prints place and see if they could do it for you. if not, online.
>>6515105
interesting use of color. is that one of his symbolic portraits?
>>6515107
>And overall, the medium worships individualism, personal achievement, and adventure better than other mediums because of this interactive element.
hegemony hegemony hegemony. Coming from someone who does play video games, you're so full of shit. At the very least, post something other than corporate AAA shlock

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>>6515119
A lot of traditional art considered masterpieces were made just to appease authority figures at the time of their creation, so the shit you're spewing is all bologna to me. All that matters is the end product and its value to YOU, why you have to get the artist involved is beyond me.

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>>6515129
>you're so full of shit.
About what, exactly?

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>>6515107
>video games are the most advanced kind of art you can partake in currently.
Just because it took a lot of hands to craft them doesn't mean they're advancing art. They're like a lot of the movie industry and made to advance profits. As an art they're just a flashy game of chess

>> No.6515145

>>6514041
>tfw malevich gets laugh at for this
feels bad man
Wish more people realise that painting is from 1920 aprox and not "le modern art bullshit". Fucking ignorants.

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>>6515141

>> No.6515158

>>6515134
>A lot of traditional art considered masterpieces were made just to appease authority figures at the time of their creation
Some, not all, and the majority of masterpieces are regarded as such because of the message they convey. Video games are made to just pander to consumers at the time of their creation.

>All that matters is the end product and its value to YOU, why you have to get the artist involved is beyond me.
What value do you derive from Halo? That killing aliens is fun? That seems vapid and entry level, and if you consider a screenshot from a video game to have emotional value then your pallet is very small.

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>>6515145
The work continues!

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>>6515142
You don't think video games have advanced art? They incorporate all of the others without reducing any of them, and add a layer onto it aka interaction. They go far beyond the "game" label they're given which is why I disagree that they are just a flashy version of chess.

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>> No.6515186

>>6515168
ayy
I don't understand the whole "painting swatches". My point is, most suprematist Malevich's paintings are often used to portray that modern art from the 80s or 90s is shit. Those paintings were made way before, so the common knowledge of those (the majority) who criticize modern art is almost nothing.

>> No.6515189

>>6513984
>>6513989
is there an english of this? my french is not so good

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>>6515158
>What value do you derive from Halo? That killing aliens is fun?
Killing being fun is definitely one thing, and you're silly to knock that, since it's a fairly natural pleasure for just about everyone on earth. But there's more than just that, and more than just Halo. You gain a sense of personal achievement and loss while playing, a sense of obligation and responsibility if playing with or against others, a sense of adventure as you explore new areas and overcome obstacles, a sense of beauty as you first pop in and play a new game with top of the line visual and audio effects or watch more being rendered on screen at once than was possible 5 years ago technologically, a sense of wonder and curiosity as you engage with new things in the game like different obstacles or objects, or tricks in the mechanics.

There is a lot, but overall the most important thing is just the emphasis on individualism in games. All else is pretty trivial or a subcategory in comparison. You can learn more about yourself, being human, and being an individual through games than through looking at a painting or listening to a song.

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>>6515145
and that his work is based primarily on spirituality aka the thing many regressives are so obsessed with
>>6515141
everything you just said
>>6515168
you're equally full of shit, and just as childish to boot

>> No.6515201

>>6515177
>You don't think video games have advanced art?
They have advanced technology and are games that employ art. It is an art form, but look at this promotional of yours. What is it even saying? Nothing really. It's just to make the fanboys drool over their weaponry fetish.

>They go far beyond the "game" label
They can't, by definition. I remember an old computer flight simulator game way way back. Now they use these things to train pilots... and kill people anywhere in the world.
The graphics improve, but the play is the same thing. How could you improve on fútbal without changing the game?

>> No.6515203

>>6515142
> As an art they're just a flashy game of chess
an absolutely silly statement, the levels of abstraction in chess are very high even in comparison to like super mario

it's like calling a novel a flashy instruction manual if you get what I'm saying

>> No.6515207

>>6515186
most people who criticize contemporary art have 0 conception of what it is and when it was. it's a matter of chance that the word they think means "everything that's new and shitty" happens to also apply to Malevich's Suprematism

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>>6515197

>> No.6515216

>>6515197
Can you really call that experience individualism? If anything, video games encapsulate an escape from reality. Instead of attempting to face, and portray the world video games immerse their player into a world of fantasy, where there is no struggle, death is meaningless, and the stakes are nonexistent.

Instead of somehow bettering the ability of the viewer to face the world, video games isolate them from reality, distract them from other more fulfilling activities, and depict warped depictions of reality that while stimulating in the short term, provide no substantial benefit or understanding of the self or the world.

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>>6515186
I think people have used tiles of this sort for their temples or baths for centuries.

>>6515203
Not trying to detract form games or the art incorporated to bring them to market.
I have some sci-fi commercial stuff too.
Again: Have you ever seen those Spectrum books?

>>6515212
That's really bad.

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>>6515201
>What is it even saying?
First of all, you are too concerned about it "saying" anything. If that is what you want from your art, then fine, I won't tell you to stop. But many others and myself don't need it to say something aside from representing what I deem valuable, which is individualism and war and strife and everything that comes from these things, which these games do. Most of the promos I'm posting here show this to an extent, or just serve as a reminder for the games that do, the rest I just like looking at.

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>>6515218
>That's really bad.
That's Shenmue, faggot. The complete opposite of bad.

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>>6515219
>what I deem valuable,
>OMG it's Snake! He's so dreamy! Squeeee!
>OH LOOK AT HIS BUTT! XDDDDDDD

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>look! butterfly is being retarded!
Oh my! what a surprise!

>> No.6515238

>>6515189

I've found this English translation, but it's not a literal one, it's more an adaptation or a imitation. So there are a lot a differences with the original :

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/29521/29521-h/29521-h.htm#17

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Hermes in Hades

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>>6515232
Nice strawman.

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>>6515226
I know the game, Otaku-san.
It was pretty crummy, and that advert is an ugly mess.
Drew Struzan knows how to do it

>> No.6515247

>>6515218
>Not trying to detract form games or the art incorporated to bring them to market.I have some sci-fi commercial stuff too. Again: Have you ever seen those Spectrum books?
I haven't, what are they?
And that was my only post in the thread.

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>>6515218
are you the real butterfly or an imposter?

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>> No.6515268

>>6515236
that looks like shit m8

>> No.6515269
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>>6515247
>And that was my only post in the thread.
Ah, apologies.
Anonymity and all.
Spectrum is an annually printed art book of all the best sci-fi fantasy art of the year. Pretty good stuff for it's category.

>>6515250
Real. I've always been more visually artistically inclined.

>> No.6515281

>>6515269
tits or gtfo

>> No.6515283
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>>6515268
I think this guy/those guys are just trolling anyway.
I was obviously trolling with the swatches.

>> No.6515285

Is anyone here familiar with icycalms stuff on video games?

>> No.6515291

>>6515245
>Shenmue was crummy
Thank you for confirming you have zero authority on video game discussion.

Well, I'm out for the night. It was fun.

>> No.6515292

>>6515145
seriously? 1920 was during the modern art movement

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>>6515281
Take it or leave it. The way it's always been.

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>>6515291
Good thing this isn't /v/, hu?

>> No.6515305

>>6515292
I know, but The Square is always mentioned when making fun of 80s and 90s modern art paintings.
>beatnik artist
>"look at my superior intellectual paintings"
>The Square by Malevich
>"wow so deep 10/10"
>audience burst out laughing

Same shit is repeated on popular movies, shows or ignorants saying that.

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>>6515268
i cut you

>> No.6515318

>>6515296
dayum

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>>6515305
i have never seen that, but i believe you. still though whether it was painted in the 20's or the 80's its still shit. also a large amount of 80's art is shit. matter of face most of the 80's were shit

>> No.6515334

>>6515216
K, one last post.

Your evaluation really just stems from being a spectator rather than a player. Bottom line. You call it being immersed in fantasy where there is no struggle or risk, but to a player that is not true at all. The "fantasy" and the struggle and risks in the game become the only thing real when playing.

Also, another indication of the maturity of this kind of art is the fact that they ARE still called games. Could a younger, less developed society have created this kind of art, or even wanted to? When you are younger and less mature, you tend to take things more seriously, because you are still striving to make something of yourself, or defend yourself from stronger/more mature forces. Playtime becomes less important. Only from an already strong and mature point of view can there be a desire to play again. It's like Nietzsche's metamorphoses of the spirit.

>> No.6515340
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>>6515283
theres no way that bird wouldn't be blowing bug vomit down stellaluna's throat

>> No.6515342
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>>6515315
Really really shit m8

0/10

>> No.6515346

>>6515334
Have you read Icycalm/insomnia? You're sounding very much like him(but not in the gay way like the guys who ape him down to his writing style), with the Nietzschean child thing and all.

>> No.6515348
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>>6515334
people couldn't have made a trash compactor 200 years ago, the people designing it and using it are immersed in the process, feeling some way toward it. does that make it art?

>> No.6515353

>>6515348
>the people designing it and using it are immersed in the process
m8 nobody gets immersed in a trash compactor except victims of the mafia

>> No.6515373
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>>6515353
you get the point though, in desinging and learning to operate one must focus and in the process become, to an extant immersed in the process of a trash compacter. this takes longer than it does for me to look at >>6515199 so you might say its vastly more immersive.

>> No.6515382

>>6515373
if the point is the craftsman and his immersion in his craft, then looking at a painting is comparable to throwing a banana peel in a trash compactor, not making and using one. painting >>6515199 and associated works, mastering the style, composition, content, and theory of them, is more comparable and definitely more immersive.

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>>6515269
is that varys top right?

>> No.6515395

>>6515373
well, art is(or could be defined as, w/e) a imitation of life, or an attempt to recreate emotions

a trash compactor imitates nothing and is an attempt to compact trash, which is why it's not art

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>> No.6515490
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>>6515353

You just made my night.

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is it true that ayahuasca puts your colorvision in VGA-mode?

>> No.6515537 [DELETED] 

>>6515395

Illusionism died over a century ago, cuck. Anything can be art.

>> No.6515549

>>6515537
>Anything can be art.
how does that not just make the label useless

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>> No.6515557

>>6514116
das it mane

>> No.6515567 [DELETED] 

>>6515549

Art is a useless label. What are you getting at?

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>> No.6515633

>>6515549
I see this argument a lot, but I think it's fundamentally unsound.

Like, the word hippo isn't offensive unless you use it in the context of an insult, like calling Jeffrey Ross a melting hippo. Just because anything can potentially be art doesn't mean it's completely meaningless to call something art.

It's more of a context-based potentiality, and anyone who made the argument that the label is "useless", I secretly suspect, already knows about this caveat and really just want to be annoying.

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>>6515407

>> No.6515674

>>6514927
source???

>> No.6515918

>>6515549
"Anything can be art" should be understood in the same manner as the phrase "Life is subjective." In other words, anything can be art because everyone is different and everyone can and will attribute different things to the term art, because art is a subjective term. It is more an adjective than a noun if you think of it as pertaining to a quality rather than the object itself. However, since everyone finds art in different places, to each individual "anything can be art" is never held true, unless you are some Nietzschean god who elevated to a level of understanding where you are capable of mentally grasping all of life as a beautiful spectacle to behold. But since basically no one is that, you will not find anyone who truly holds "anything can be art" in their belief system, despite what they tell you, because there are some things in life they will personally NEVER regard as art.

>> No.6516008
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I'm usually not a very big fan of Matisse, but I love La Danse.

>> No.6516061
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lel

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>>6513954
>>6513971

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>>6515303
Fake and gay.

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>>6515647
Ice cold.

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>> No.6516132

>>6514096
This is like the end scene of The Dead.
I love it.

>> No.6516134
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>> No.6516136

>>6513879
this is great

really shows lit readers for what they are

insane, fantasizing maniacs

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>> No.6516160 [DELETED] 

sage, hidden, reported

>> No.6516209

>>6515674
Upcoming game named "Everybody's Gone to the Rapture"

>> No.6516439

>>6514274
That's all very interesting but not very moving. I've seen a Pollock in a gallery before and I was absolutely floored for a few minutes. You're right, it's presence is massive but it's not terribly soulful.

>> No.6516555

>>6514890

>mfw I just noticed they're riding backwards
>mfw I have no face

>> No.6516749

>>6516135
any thoughts on this picture or a background to it? seems interesting and full of ideology

>> No.6516890

>>6516749
http://jonmcnaughton.com/content/ZoomDetailPages/TheForgottenMan.html

Made by the same guy who did this. Conservative christian. Pretty funny shit actually.

>> No.6516924

Has anyone been to the impressionist exhibition at The National Gallery (London!)? -is it worth a trip down from the Midlands, I don't want to travel down if there's only like two Monets, strapped for cash.

>> No.6517428

>le realist face
It's adorable how you pretend romanticism never happened

>> No.6517469

>>6514048
>>6514055
>>6514116
>>6514128
>>6515195

These guys know where it's at. Incidentally, I look pretty much exactly like the last painting without the moustache.

Also, where's all the Waterhouse at?

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>>6516135
lol at Stalin towering over Napoleon. They were both about 5' 6"