Post your favorite writers who didn't smoke or do drugs. Picture related, antidepressants don't count.

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Anonymous Tue May 5 19:58:56 2015 No.6500597 [Reply] [Original]

Post your favorite writers who didn't smoke or do drugs.

Picture related, antidepressants don't count.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 20:00:33 2015 No.6500604 abuse of antidepressants would count as doing drugs

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 20:02:12 2015 No.6500616 >>6500604 He did it because of the disease he had, not because he wanted to wanted to get stoned or be a degenerate who does drugs.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 20:03:13 2015 No.6500624 >>6500597 >antidepressants don't count Yes they do.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 20:03:21 2015 No.6500626 >>6500604 antidepressants have basically no abuse potential. They don't get you high. Taking too much just increases unpleasant side effects.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 20:04:07 2015 No.6500631 If he didn't do drugs, where did he get all the highly accurate pharmaceutical information in Infinite Jest from?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 20:04:36 2015 No.6500635 >>6500616 Nobody does drugs in order to do drugs. Drugs are a mean, not an end.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 20:05:18 2015 No.6500641 >>6500604 >abuse >of antidepressants do you know anything about antidepressants friend? Really only have abuse potential if you're bipolar, which IIRC DFW was not.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 20:06:15 2015 No.6500646 >>6500626 He forced himself off it and got worse Maybe he didn''t do drugs but in this case not doing drugs might have harmed him

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 20:06:18 2015 No.6500647 >>6500616 >not because he wanted to wanted to get stoned or be a degenerate who does drugs. the average stoner is depressed

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 20:06:22 2015 No.6500648 >>6500597 DFW was "addicted to weed"

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 20:06:49 2015 No.6500651 What OP meant to make a thread about: >antidepressants aren't drugs OP I would definitely encourage you to get help if you feel you need it, without shame too.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 20:12:27 2015 No.6500672 DFW admitted in an interview that he had taken LSD although I don't remember whether he used it once or multiple times.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 20:14:16 2015 No.6500687 >>6500635 >>6500648 >>6500604 stop posting you fucking retard

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 21:07:29 2015 No.6500950 >>6500597 he did drugs in school dumb bastard

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 21:09:56 2015 No.6500960 >>6500597 DFW smoked, but quit only to return to his vice by chewing tobacco.

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » Tue May 5 21:10:03 2015 No.6500961 File: 33 KB, 528x650, Homer-greek-mythology-3965004-528-650.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6500624 This.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 21:11:05 2015 No.6500969 File: 142 KB, 642x800, wordsworth.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So straight edge that he only got drunk once in his entire life. What a sad bastard.

Anonymous Tue May 5 21:13:04 2015 No.6500979

>>6500597
holy shit everybody in this thread is retarted
nigga dfw went to rehab for weed and alcohol
>>6500604
>abuse of antidepressants would count as doing drugs
antidepressants cant be abused, you don't get high off of them. If you swallowed an entire bottle of zoloft you would feel exactly the same.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 21:13:22 2015 No.6500981 I'm pretty sure I listened to an interview with DFW's sister who said he was a stoner in high school.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 21:15:37 2015 No.6500989 File: 18 KB, 309x500, dd488534938f3a488f306bc92bd80bc3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] check mate. cock dont count, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 21:18:45 2015 No.6501002 >>6500597 his sister called him a "pot head" i don't see why she would lie..

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 21:20:06 2015 No.6501013 >>6500989 Mishima smoked.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 21:21:26 2015 No.6501021 File: 436 KB, 1162x698, Screen Shot 2015-05-04 at 10.10.20 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6500597 ITT: People who know NOTHING about DFW lore

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 21:46:11 2015 No.6501125 >>6500960 Proof? I don't think DFW smoked.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 21:56:38 2015 No.6501168 There's an interview up on youtube somewhere where the interviewer asks him point-blank "Did you do a lot of drugs David?" and DFW just kind of rolls out of the way like "I don't know a lot of people over 40 who haven't. I'm over 40."

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 21:57:41 2015 No.6501172 >>6501125 http://www.believermag.com/issues/200311/?read=interview_wallace

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 21:59:48 2015 No.6501179 File: 361 KB, 608x662, Screen Shot 2015-05-04 at 9.07.46 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6500597 >ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO DONT KNOW ANY FUCKING DFW LORE

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 22:03:13 2015 No.6501189 >>6501172 How's this for cool? >Questions were emailed to Wallace, who then took them home, answered them on his home computer—which is not connected to the Internet—printed those answers, and put them in the mail.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 22:16:17 2015 No.6501223 bump

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 22:16:40 2015 No.6501228 >tfw david dead

Anonymous Tue May 5 22:29:33 2015 No.6501283
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>>6500597
>antidepressants don't count
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antidepressant
>Antidepressants are drugs used for the treatment of major depressive disorder and other conditions, including dysthymia, anxiety disorders, obsessive compulsive disorder, eating disorders, chronic pain, neuropathic pain and, in some cases, dysmenorrhoea, snoring, migraine, attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), substance abuse and sleep disorders.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 22:38:00 2015 No.6501309 File: 319 KB, 534x388, 1424908068697.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6500597 >David "420" Foster Wallace didn't do drugs Read his biography fag

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 22:42:23 2015 No.6501327 >>6500597 DID CHOMSKY TOKE?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 22:44:33 2015 No.6501339 >>6501283 its not taken recreationally

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » Tue May 5 22:51:19 2015 No.6501363 File: 31 KB, 388x594, 1290151971169.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6501327

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:04:24 2015 No.6501402 >>6501339 You are not taken recreationally.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:10:09 2015 No.6501423 >>6501363 How IS smoking weed from a pipe, is it recommended?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:10:30 2015 No.6501425 File: 68 KB, 499x474, sigh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6501339 <cannabis treats all if not most of the symptoms and problems sri's "treat" <also cure and help cancer patients <considered recreational drug <mfw

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:16:23 2015 No.6501456 File: 2.85 MB, 1910x1000, 1429073582855.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6501425

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:19:20 2015 No.6501472 >>6501423 the resin clogs the stem and it's a bitch to clean.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:20:27 2015 No.6501476 >>6501425 >weed cures cancer shut the fuck up

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:22:17 2015 No.6501483 File: 108 KB, 413x395, 55875187.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6501456 >thinking that is the only benifit of medical cannabis >still being this ignorant about cannabis in 2015 >mfw

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:23:02 2015 No.6501488 File: 54 KB, 152x281, checking from the side.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6501472 you have to use ethanol, there is no other way.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:23:22 2015 No.6501491 File: 24 KB, 430x305, thisgaiisfukinstupid.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6501476 top kek

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:25:55 2015 No.6501503 >>6500616 >the disease he had Did any historical authors use drugs to treat their depression?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:26:09 2015 No.6501509 >>6501491 I think weed should be legal, but it does not cure cancer and people who think it does are the same people who exemplify why it should not be legal.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:27:37 2015 No.6501516 File: 87 KB, 396x385, 1428911098832.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6501509 >2015 >being a pharmaceutical company cuck

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:27:44 2015 No.6501517 >>6501363 A young Chomsky probably had loads of sex.

Anonymous Tue May 5 23:29:27 2015 No.6501521

>>6501516
Why would pharmaceuticals want weed to be illegal? They themselves could grow weed and make insane profits.
But no, the fucking corporations are trying to get the harmless ALL NATURAL PLANT that is the miracle of everything illegal because fuck you dude. Right?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:34:50 2015 No.6501541 >>6501503 Only the ones who didn't kill themselves.

Anonymous Tue May 5 23:35:06 2015 No.6501542
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>>6501509
http://www.leafscience.com/2014/07/14/study-explains-cannabis-cures-cancer/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DttdDOqQMuY

http://www.trueactivist.com/there-is-no-mistaking-the-evidence-cannabis-cures-cancer/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQwwGPiyW9M

>>	Bachem Tue May 5 23:35:46 2015 No.6501544 >>6501521 I don't know if you are asking this seriously or not.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:35:51 2015 No.6501545 >>6501521 Actually sounds plausible.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:36:02 2015 No.6501547 >>6501509 >>6501521 >literally states an uncontroversial opinion that adds nothing to the conversation >misses the point of the anon that greentexted him this isn't reddit good sir, I would suggest you lurk more

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:36:31 2015 No.6501550 >>6501542 >those sources lel

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:36:54 2015 No.6501551 >>6501521 You need to stop reading so much fiction bruh

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:37:29 2015 No.6501556 >>6501547 >literally states an uncontroversial opinion that adds nothing to the conversation did you not read >>6501516 you fucking autust?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:37:29 2015 No.6501557 >>6501516 Why does it not surprise me that the folks who are forcing this "look at me, I misspelled cuckold" meme are the same edgy Redditors who whine about how mean and scary Big Pharma is?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:37:34 2015 No.6501558 >>6501541 So DFW tried and still failed?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:39:27 2015 No.6501567 >>6501558 Tried what? He wasn't on medication when he killed himself iirc.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:39:46 2015 No.6501570 File: 15 KB, 460x276, notsurprised.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6501550 >your lack of sources >mfw

Anonymous Tue May 5 23:41:14 2015 No.6501574
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>>6501542
>leafscience
>trueactivist
>youtube channel called "short cannabis videos"
>Video that starts off with this text because FUCK THE FUCKING CORPORATIONS DUDE

Anonymous Tue May 5 23:43:54 2015 No.6501588

>>6501456

>Let's outlaw the recreational drug that can actually help some people who might need it because others simply want it for fun

This logic is fucking retarded, why not give both of them what they want so we can stop jailing cancer patients and fairly normal people.

Anonymous Tue May 5 23:44:05 2015 No.6501590
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>>6501557
>down playing the role Big Pharma plays in the production of most of the extremely profitable modern medical problems.
>down playing Big Pharma
>Using the term Big Pharma

Anonymous Tue May 5 23:44:21 2015 No.6501591

>>6501551
Yeah man, all the fucking fiction that the fucking government feeds all the sheeple so that weed can stay illegal so big pharmacies can make a profit by giving people cancer and killing babies because they are evil uhfwouhef AND IT'S ALL NATURAL MAN!!!! IT'S A FUCKING PLANT !!!!!

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:46:55 2015 No.6501604 File: 44 KB, 600x600, viperstupid.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6501590 >big pharmacies themselves would not make profits off of weed.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:48:02 2015 No.6501612 File: 444 KB, 528x1060, more.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6501574 >focusing on the messengers not the facts or studies cited in the articles and videos >logical fallacies confirmed

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:49:31 2015 No.6501615 File: 34 KB, 490x333, look everyone im projecting.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6501591

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:50:44 2015 No.6501623 File: 31 KB, 400x400, viper.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6501615 How were you not projecting yourself in >>6501551

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:53:19 2015 No.6501637 File: 242 KB, 660x440, ObamaLaughing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6501623 >still not address reality that Cannabis cures cancer >focusing on non issues and moot points >Logical Fallacies confirmed

Anonymous Tue May 5 23:56:54 2015 No.6501654

>>6501604

They will, which is one of the reasons it is taking as long as it is while they roll out weed in pill form to market to house wives and children in a proper Christian manner.

Honestly I don't know why people aren't complaining about the fact that Beer companies and private prison guard lobbies are throwing most of the money towards pro-prohibition ads these days.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 23:59:41 2015 No.6501668 File: 91 KB, 450x302, head in the sand(1).gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >http://www.google.com/patents/US6630507

Anonymous Wed May 6 00:04:14 2015 No.6501679
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>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/18/marijuana-brain-cancer_n_6181060.html

this source mainstream enough for you pharma bro
does it have your seal of approval? or is it more edgy conspiracy theorists?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 00:05:08 2015 No.6501680 >>6500597 >implying

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 00:10:01 2015 No.6501701 >>6501021 >that image kek

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 00:11:01 2015 No.6501706 >>6501125 Just read Infinite Jest

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 10:23:50 2015 No.6503110 Franzen was straight edge, DFW wasn't.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 12:04:08 2015 No.6503430 File: 20 KB, 250x296, lovecraft-02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Str8 edge. Even wrote a story specifically to tell Alfred Galpin not to drink.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 12:08:56 2015 No.6503443 >>6501425 >cannabis treats all if not most of the symptoms and problems sri's "treat" I don't think i've read a more misinformed post on this entire website.

Anonymous Wed May 6 12:09:19 2015 No.6503447

Nabokov. He makes me proud to be sober.

“Drug addicts, especially young ones, are conformists flocking together in sticky groups, and I do not write for groups, nor approve of group therapy (the big scene in the Freudian farce); as I have said often enough, I write for myself in multiplicate, a not unfamiliar phenomenon on the horizon of shimmering deserts. Young dunces who turn to drugs cannot read “Lolita,” or any of my books, some in fact cannot read at all. Let me also observe that the term “square” already dates as a slang word, for nothing dates quicker than conservative youth, nor is there anything more philistine, more bourgeois, more ovine than this business of drug duncery. Half a century ago, a similar fashion among the smart set of St. Petersburg was cocaine sniffing combined with phony orientalities. The better and brighter minds of my young American readers are far removed from those juvenile fads and faddists. I also used to know in the past a Communist agent who got so involved in trying to wreck anti-Bolshevist groups by distributing drugs among them that he became an addict himself and lapsed into a dreamy state of commendable metempsychic sloth. He must be grazing today on some grassy slope in Tibet if he has not yet lined the coat of his fortunate shepherd.”

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 12:10:57 2015 No.6503452 >>6503110 >DFW wasn't and then he was

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 12:12:08 2015 No.6503457 >>6503452 >>6501172

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 12:12:09 2015 No.6503458 >>6503447 While I certainly don't disagree, it is foolish to look down on people just because they occasionaly indulge.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 12:12:59 2015 No.6503463 File: 14 KB, 225x215, moses or it could be david or solomon or paul or john or.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6500597

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 12:15:57 2015 No.6503476 >>6503458 Just to amend, I do appreciate that he uses "Drug addicts" and not just occasional user.

Anonymous Wed May 6 12:39:28 2015 No.6503548
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>>6503443
>http://www.google.com/patents/US6630507

>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/06/marijauna-depression_n_6622126.html

>misinformed
>implying you have read every post on this website

>implying you are smart enough to actually read and comprehend

you dumb son you dumb

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 13:09:35 2015 No.6503643 The only right answer to this thread is Hunter S. Thompson.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 13:51:17 2015 No.6503801 >>6503463 >Moses et al How about Muhammad?

Anonymous Wed May 6 13:54:00 2015 No.6503813

>>6503548
>However, it's important to note that the relationship between marijuana and depression is complex. Some research has suggested that regular and heavy marijuana smokers are at a higher risk for depression, although a causal link between cannabis use and depression has not been established. More studies are needed in order to determine whether, and how, marijuana might be used in a clinical context for patients with depression.

In the very source you cite. Learn to read your own sources you retard.

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>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 20:33:40 2015 No.6505264 >>6503813 Please stop posting, you moron.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 20:36:05 2015 No.6505277 >>6501327 he said in Is The Man Who is Happy Tall? that he does not.

Anonymous Wed May 6 23:38:23 2015 No.6505977

>>6500597
Are you trying to create a distrust amongst us noble /lit/izens?

But in all seriousness, please do not use your writing for mere incitement only and for cheap kicks and bad faith; these threads do not usually amount to anything save for dank banter.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 05:31:49 2015 No.6506849 >>6505977 I like how you used "your writing" to refer to what he wrote.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 05:37:36 2015 No.6506865 >>6503942 >>6505264 well meme'd

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 07:54:55 2015 No.6507143 >>6503447 Nabokov was a whiney old cunt

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 07:56:17 2015 No.6507146 >>6507143 Drug addict detected.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 09:42:12 2015 No.6507374 >>6507146 Nah thanks. Ive dabbled but I have no interest in drugs.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 09:50:28 2015 No.6507398 >favorite writers who probably did drugs Gertrude Stein DH Lawrence Jack Kerouac John Steinbeck Voltaire >favorite writers who probably didn't John Keats Shakespeare Nabokov Woolf

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 10:13:27 2015 No.6507437 The waiting for the dealer chapter is far too accurate for a non toker.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 10:14:29 2015 No.6507438 File: 57 KB, 1024x1024, BAIT CONSUMES BAIT.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6507398 >ALMOST

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 11:24:19 2015 No.6507595 >>6507398 >John Steinbeck Nah man, no way. Steinbeck was a cool dude.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 11:30:33 2015 No.6507603 >>6507595 I don't know man, when he was an older alcoholic, he lived on Long Island, and was there a better place for a wealthy drinker to find downers and shit? I'm almost positive he did more than just drink but none of that doesn't mean he was cool

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 11:32:05 2015 No.6507607 >>6500989 That's such a good picture of him. I always think he was an alcoholic but that's because I confuse him with Yasujiro Ozu.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 11:32:59 2015 No.6507609 >>6501013 Aaaaaaaaaaaaand dropped...

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 17:41:19 2015 No.6508897 >>6507437 THATS BECAUSE HE SMOKED ALL THE FUCKING TIME WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER THIS ISN'T UNKOWN TRIVIA, THIS IS A WELL KNOWN PART OF DFW LORE YOU FUCKING PLEBS

Anonymous Thu May 7 17:42:31 2015 No.6508900

ah yes, DFW, the schtick man, o golly gee u sure are sincere lol

>"No thinking atheist would consider themselves fully atheistic, as atheism arises from a lack of evidence and evidence can always change a thinking person's mind."

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>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 17:44:02 2015 No.6508909 Wait, does alcohol count? Or just illegal/taboo shit

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 18:03:24 2015 No.6508961 >>6508897 >DFW LORE It's time to disconnect from the internet for a few days.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 20:19:42 2015 No.6509355 >>6508900 What's with that quote? It only links me back to 4chan...

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 23:28:02 2015 No.6510262 >>6501125 I haven't read any of his books but he straight up talked about it in interviews...

Anonymous Fri May 8 03:47:40 2015 No.6511092

>>6509355
> "I started smoking at twenty three after two years of dabbling in clove cigarettes (which were big in the early eighties). I liked cigarettes, very much, but one thing I did not like was how hard they were on the lungs and wind in terms of sports, stair-climbing, coitus, etc. Some roofer friends back home got me started on chew as a cigarette-substitute at I think age twenty eight. Chew doesn’t hurt your lungs (obviously), but it also has massive, massive amounts of nicotine, at least compared to Marlboro Lights. (This, too, is all very condensed and boiled down; sorry if it’s terse.) I have tried probably ten serious times to quit chewing tobacco in the last decade. I’ve never even made it a year. Besides all the well-documented psychic fallout, the hardest thing about quitting for me is that it makes me stupid. Really stupid. As in walking into rooms and forgetting why I’m there, drifting off in the middle of sentences, feeling coolness on my chin and discovering I’ve been drooling. Without chew, I have the attention span of a toddler. I giggle and sob inappropriately. And everything seems very, very far away. In essence it’s like being unpleasantly stoned all the time… and as far as I can tell it’s not a temporary withdrawal thing. I quit for eleven months once, and it was like that the whole time. On the other hand, chewing tobacco kills you—or at the very least it makes your teeth hurt and turn unpleasant colors and eventually fall out. Plus it’s disgusting, and stupid, and a vector of self-contempt. So, once again, I’ve quit. It’s now been a little over three months. At this moment I have in gum, a mint, and three Australian tea-tree toothpicks that a Wiccan friend swears by. One reason you and I are chatting in print rather than in real time is that it’s taken me twenty minutes just to formulate and press the appropriate keys for the preceding ¶. Actually speaking with me would be like visiting a demented person in a nursing home. Apparently I not only drift off in the middle of a sentence but sometimes begin to hum, tunelessly, without being aware of it. Also, FYI, my left eyelid has been twitching nonstop since August 18. It’s not pretty. But I’d prefer to live past fifty. This is my Tobacco Story."

>>	Anonymous Fri May 8 05:42:31 2015 No.6511311 dfw stopped doing drugs in the 90s but before that he drank, dropped acid, smoked weed, ate mushrooms, and tried a bunch of other shit. so.

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