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Fuck this guy and anyone who likes him. Fuck The Stranger/The Outsider/The Whatever The Fuck It's Called. It's not raw. It's not human. It's posh pseudo existentialism and absurdism written feeling like it's been written by an angsty teenagers or retarded pretentious pseudo intellectual frog. Or both really. It's fucking shit and boring.

>> No.6482390
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>>6482358
calm down nigga
why do you think so?
+it's not late embrace hedonism

>> No.6482418

I agree that Camus is the ultimate in philosophical pretension without substance.

>> No.6482467

>>6482358
>>6482418
Looks like people are getting butthurt because they can't face the Absurd and cannot stand their values being touched. Sorry m80s

>> No.6482483

>>6482358
Pseudo existentialism? But it isn't... It is one of the fundamental texts of it.

>> No.6482503

>>6482358
>lol he's such a poser
>grew up in poverty
>had zero intelectual support from his dead or illiterate parents
>became respect by most intellectuals of his time
>formed political parties
>published books defending his ideas
Yeah, OP. A real poser, you seem to be great noticing all this people clearly inferior to you.

>> No.6482506

>>6482467
If you wouldn't notice yet, this utter shit book interested me in the first place because I relate these ideas, I believe in them. But you were probably baiting, oh wow congrats you got, oh wow you mad.

>>6482483
Just because something is a fundamental text of something doesn't mean it can't be shit, doesn't mean it can't feel like it's a poor grotesque of existentalist writers and certain other groups of people.

>> No.6482514

>>6482506
What are the superiors in existentialism? Please enlighten me. Nietzsche has an interesting prose style though he can't help but shout everything. Sartre is an incompetent writer. The Stranger is not the absolute pinnacle of western literature but you write it off far quicker than it deserves to be.

>> No.6482519

>>6482358

What? Existentialism is "practical philosophy" at its most banal. There's no ivory-tower-separation-from-human-experience stuff like you find in Kant or Hegel. It's all >muh embracing life as it 'truly' is and >muh diverse experiences. It's like the antithesis of overly abstract systematic philosophy. But yeah, I guess it's "edgy," if you actually discount ideas because of memes/internet culture.

>> No.6482522

>>6482503
You didn't even understand my post, you fucking retard. I've never said that retard is posh. I've said his shit writing feels posh because it is. Reading comprehension. And you can fuck off with that retarded u just jelly regurgitated argument and your regurgitated 'you defend yourself u jelly' or whatever the fuck it is delusions.

>> No.6482530

>>6482514
>The Stranger is not the absolute pinnacle of western literature but you write it off far quicker than it deserves to be.
>you can't possibly dislike what I like

And please cut it with that posh pretentious writing. I'm having Camus PTSD.

>> No.6482553

>>6482519
Sorry, I fell asleep while you reading your post. But I'm sure glad you felt intellectual for a second while typing this sneeze fest turgid sounding monstrosity. Also, you completely dismissed my points while trying to boil me to down to your epic defensive 'YOU'RE JUST LE EDGY MEMER' meme.

>> No.6482587
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Look at every photographic portrait of Albert Camus and imagine the camera before him; the time it takes to set up the camera, the time it takes to set up a shot. In every photo he is affecting a pose, as though enraptured in thought or contented with the way he sees things. It's artifice; pretension. The man is not a genuine intellectual.

>> No.6482595

cool opinion bro

>> No.6482605

>>6482587
All intellectual thought is artifice and pretension. Anything that takes more than 5 seconds to come up with isn't genuine.

>> No.6482623

>>6482587
Yeah, everybody knows all true intellectuals look like shit. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

>> No.6482687

>>6482605
What do you mean by intellectual thought? What are you referring to that takes more than 5 seconds?

>>6482623
There are genuine intellectuals who selflessly devote their existence to contemplation of the higher order of reality, and then there are 'intellectuals' who affect an image of the latter.

Your post is just a pained projection of your jaded outlook on life.

>> No.6482701

>>6482687
Zizek, for example.

He snorts coke and doesn't afraid of anything.

>> No.6482713

>>6482587
You have zero idea how portraiture works, don't you? He wasn't alive in the 1800's. Henri Cartier-Bresson was wrecking the street scene at the time. It look literally less than a second to get an exposure off.

>> No.6482722

>>6482713

Regardless, he is in front of a camera. He is aware that he will be photographed so he is affecting a posture that will be immortalize his image.

>> No.6482723

>>6482530
Okay this is different than disliking something. You're just sperging out and thing to dislodge one of the most important works in the western canon. Did you come her from /b/

>> No.6482892

>>6482553

I was clearly not defending it--just correcting your misconceptions.

>> No.6483122

>>6482722
>someone posed for a photo
>therefore nothing he ever through or wrote could possibly be valid

>> No.6483127

>>6482522
not that guy but

You can't just use vague descriptions and ad hominem and expect anybody to turn to your side

>> No.6483869

>>6482587
Have you ever seen anyones Facebook/Instagram ever? Do you even know how photography in general works as an art? Fuck off you ignorant twat.

>> No.6483872

>>6483127
You can on boards like /pol/, /v/, & /b/ where this faggot comes from however

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stop replying to bait, retards.

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>>6482467
>capitalising absurd

>> No.6483986

>>6482519
The best thing about Camus is that maybe some of the people who read and like his stuff will go onward to actual philosophy. In my experience all the people who like his stuff are emotionally constipated hipsters who need to gird their lives/experiences with a "philosophy of authenticity" but what's really another brand/dogma in practice. I think most of his success is because with the collapse of Christianity's intellectual cred in the west, people are hungry for some kind of philosophy of practical life which he managed to put in fairly simple terms. You can still do better in most of the major religious traditions or, if you want to jerk off over subtlety and untranslated Greek words, Heidegger. Camus is barely a step above wherever-you-go-that's-where-you-are pop-Zen.

Just because Tolstoy or Joyce didn't dramatize the existential dilemma in the same self-conscious way Camus did doesn't mean it's not there in them. All Camus did is strain out that bit and hammer it out over and over and over again until it was so obvious your average facebook user could claim they understand everything in "The Stranger" and they'd probably be right.

tldr: disliking Camus isn't just edgemastery. do Buddhism and reread Dubliners and then see where the guy stands as a philosopher.