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Anonymous Wed Apr 22 13:08:02 2015 No.6439432 [Reply] [Original]

Sup /lit/, I have some questions pertaining to French lit:

1. What are the best French publishers (for literary fiction)?
2. From which site should I order my French language books (to the UK)?
3. Can you recommend some good French fiction for beginners? At the moment I'm thinking The Little Prince, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, The Three Musketeers and The Stranger, in that order. Sounds good, or no?
4. What's the best French-to-English dictionary?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 14:18:56 2015 No.6439708 >>6439432 1. Les Editions de Minuit, probably? since they've always been more friendly to the avant-garde than the other big ones. Obviously they publish a lot of literary crap too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 14:35:58 2015 No.6439760 >>6439432 >Le diable vauvert >For torrents, I'd say t411 >Celine, Cams, Sartre >I dunni If you want french correspondant, I'm here, I'mlooking to improvemy english

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 14:37:31 2015 No.6439766 >>6439432 Is it just me or does France's eastern border look like a jew trying to eat through the country.

Anonymous Wed Apr 22 14:43:48 2015 No.6439789

>>6439432
1. Editions de Minuit, Gallimard... Mostly. They are more "selective" also but doesn't mean it doesn't contain shit as well just like what >>6439708
said.

2. I always buy from Amazon, most of the time.

3. Easy to read: Camus, Romain Gary, most 19th century "mainstream" writers (Goncourt bros, Zola, Hugo...).
Your plan sounds alright too.

4. No idea, I just use internet.

Anonymous Wed Apr 22 14:46:06 2015 No.6439804

>>6439432
1. Don't know
2. Don't know, amazon maybe?
3. Le Petit Prince and l'Etranger are good to begin with, I have never read Verne, Dumas is a bit too long to begin with I think.
I advise you Le Grand Meaulnes and Belle du Seigneur too
Also, if you want to taste a bit of the French of the XVIIth, you can pick Les Maximes - La Rochefoucauld or Les Contes - Perrault
4. I have no idea

Anonymous Wed Apr 22 20:49:00 2015 No.6441303

>>6439432
For beginners, I would recommend La Mare au Diable by Georges Sand, mainly because it combines an extensive vocab with clear prose. In other words, you'll improve your vocabulary without having to worry too much about ambiguous meanings. The Little Prince is basically a standard text for french learners, and The Stranger is good as well.

Once you've done that, most French literature should be simple enough, with a few exceptions.
And you can actually find French books on Amazon, etc as long as you use the french title.

>>6439760
Not OP but if you want a correspondent I need one as well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 20:53:59 2015 No.6441326 >>6439432 Just learning French too, anonfag? What are you using? I'm about 2 units in of Rosetta Stone and some Pimsleur.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 20:58:36 2015 No.6441353 >>6439432 J'aime beaucoup Gallimard Folio. Une immense sélection de livres de poche à un prix fort raisonnable, surtout pour les classiques. Il y aussi Actes Sud (Babel) et GF.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 21:01:39 2015 No.6441366 >>6441353 Comment etre la qualite des livres?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 21:04:06 2015 No.6441376 >>6439766 Jew nose ... Switzerland Jew mouth ... Italy Jew head ... Germany (lol)

Anonymous Wed Apr 22 21:11:10 2015 No.6441401

>>6441366
Gallimard produit généralement des livres d'excellente qualité (sauf pour la collection Imaginaire, qui tombe facilement en morceaux et qu'il faut manier avec délicatesse). Les Folio ont une couverture souple mais résistante. Je trouve personnellement que ce sont les livres les plus agréables à manipuler sur le marché.
Si tu veux parler de la qualité des oeuvres qui sont imprimées chez Gallimard, il y a du bon et du moins bon, mais la plupart des oeuvres françaises indispensables, classiques comme modernes, y sont (Flaubert, Balzac, Zola, Huysmans, Proust, Céline et ainsi de suite).

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 00:34:14 2015 No.6442129 >>6439432 I was in your exact position in January. I did Petit Prince, Diving Bell and the Butterfly, the The Stranger for my intro and it worked pretty well I think if I could do it again I would swap Stranger to 2nd

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 00:35:15 2015 No.6442135 >>6439432 >>6442129 oh and best dictionary is wordreference.com

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 03:51:10 2015 No.6442687 >>6441353 >>6441366 Au niveau de la qualité, mais tout de même paperback, tu trouveras rien de mieux que Actes Sud et la Collection Babel

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 04:06:06 2015 No.6442721
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>>6439432

(I don't really understand why people are recommending Les Edition de Minuit. Ok, it's an historically important publishing house, but it's relatively small and has been on the verge of bankruptcy for 10 years now.)

1.

New works: Gallimard and Grasset. Top winners of the Goncourt Prize (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galligrasseuil)), and most important economically speaking, historically speaking, and quality-wise. These are the books you see when entering a library.

Old works in paperback: Folio, J'ai Lu, Le Livre de Poche, Garnier Flammarion. All the classics from Plato to Houellebecq are in there, in somewhat ok quality.

Old works in luxury editions: La Collection de la Pléiade

2. amazon.co.uk has a pretty good list. Otherwise, go directly to the publishing house site.

3. Good list. I'd add Les Mains Sales, by Sartre.

4. Wordreference.com

Proof: pic related

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 04:49:17 2015 No.6442780 File: 647 KB, 1397x2592, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Garnier-Flammarion is a good, tidy publishing house.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 08:55:53 2015 No.6443201 >>6442780 Is it a bilingual version (Old-French / French)?

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>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 15:00:50 2015 No.6444261 How easy is it to learn to read French (assuming I don't need to speak or write)?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 15:11:56 2015 No.6444311 >>6439432 I really enjoyed Emile Zola. His stories are very easy to follow and present some interesting ideas. La Bête Humaine is probably my favourite of his, closely followed by Germinal and then Therese Raquin. Camus and Sartre are also very good

Roy Rochford Thu Apr 23 22:02:59 2015 No.6445985

1. Gallimard and Folio seem to publish the best stuff.

2. I use bookdepostory.com

3. That order sounds good seeing as it's running from a kid's book to a literary philosophical novel. The Stanger's easy enough to read. I'd also recommend The Count of Monte Cristo.

4. I dunno, probably because my professor in college recommend it to me I always use Oxford as my yardstick now. Either that or if I'm stuck I'll use Larousse's website. Both seem pretty reliable.

Most people here are going to disagree with what I have to say but them's the breaks. Find what suits you the best. Best of luck, you've made a great decision deciding to read French literature in it's original language.

>>	Roy Rochford Thu Apr 23 22:04:35 2015 No.6445998 >>6439760 Moi, je recherche un gens qui peut m'aider avec mon Francais. Si vous voulez je peux améliorer votre anglais. Avez vous Skype ou quelque chose comme ca?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 23:01:40 2015 No.6446244 >>6439760 >>6445998 i would also love to language exchange! Email me if you're interested: mattirvgray@gmail.com It's cool if you only want one though, then you should go with the guy who responded first

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 23:06:03 2015 No.6446272 >>6445998 Ca m'intéresse aussi, lachez un skype ou un email. On pourrait éventuellement former un groupe skype franco/anglophone

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 04:56:17 2015 No.6447328 >>6446272 >former un groupe skype franco/anglophone Je suis interessé aussi (bien que je ne possède pas de microphone)

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 06:22:39 2015 No.6447456 >>6444311 zola's descriptions and overall ambience is comfycore

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 06:29:57 2015 No.6447468

>>6439432
>3. Can you recommend some good French fiction for beginners?

Not really for beginners, but the Malaussène saga by Daniel Pennac is awesome.
Full of references and strange use of language, so it could be a bit hard, but the prose is uncommon and brilliant

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 06:31:04 2015 No.6447472 >>6445998 >>int ctrl+f, look for /fr/ Prepare to enter a strange world, and don't replie to the german flag current thread : >>>/int/40737613

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 07:00:25 2015 No.6447553 >>6447468 Really good saga

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 12:13:57 2015 No.6448514

How come no one every mentions Flaubert when talking about french writers? I feel like he's massively underrated.

Anyway OP, pretty much the go to recommendation is The Count of Monte Cristo; I've never met a decently educated person who doesn't love that book, even if they aren't really into literature.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 12:20:06 2015 No.6448538 >>6448514 >How come no one every mentions Flaubert when talking about french writers? I feel like he's massively underrated. The reverse.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 12:22:10 2015 No.6448550 >>6448514 >Flaubert Some novelists are even more underrated than him, see Stendhal, Huysmans, de Laclos, d'Aurevilly, France, Chateaubriand etc...

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 12:23:28 2015 No.6448554 >>6448514 >How come no one every mentions Flaubert when talking about french writers? I feel like he's massively underrated. Isn't his main appeal his prose? Doesn't seem ideal for a beginner.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 13:14:51 2015 No.6448739 >>6447553 Currently reading it with my gf, I didn't remember that it was THIS hardcore when I read it as a teenager. When you look past his very light style, you realise that the story in itself is pretty violent

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