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6434636 No.6434636 [Reply] [Original]

Is Tupac Shakur, /lit/?

>> No.6434646

>>6434636

No.

If you're anti-intellectual/'progressive'/politically correct, yes.

>> No.6434650

>>6434636
No, literature is /lit/. Off to >>>/mu/

>> No.6434656

>>6434636
No, he dead

>> No.6434659

>>6434636
You're High anon

>> No.6434667

>>6434646

Pac is more /lit/ than Rand

>> No.6434678

>>6434667
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3EmA-eJPxs

>> No.6434683

Yes.

He's a poet in every sense of the word.

>> No.6434688

>>6434636

Ok, I am going to be really honest with you. I have researched his songs after I heard that he was a good poet, and after some time I came to this conclusion:

His “poetry” is very bad and it is only mentioned because of political-correctness and in face of his famous death and success in the black community. There is hardly any single line that merits a compliment. His biographers like to describe him as a “ferocious” and “avid” reader, but if that was the case then he didn’t learn anything with the books that he read, using nothing in his “art” or in his life.

He hardly uses metaphors or imagery and when he does they are generally cliché; he doesn’t show any comprehension of life beyond his own mediocre impression (crowded with his own prejudices, like even some sort of hate towards women) and no capacity for empathy. He mostly speaks like some member of an ancient tribe was going to speak about other tribes: “This are my brothers, those are our enemies; we are great, they are bad; brothers are faithful to one another, but we must beware of traitors, etc.”. He is neither a poet of crude thoughts but great technique nor a poet of great thoughts but with deficient technic.

He is some sort of worsened black-writer: he stays on the same island of subject of racial segregation (the island that most black writers are incapable of abandoning) but hardly constructs anything of value upon the topic.

He is a pop star, nothing more. Even Lana del Rey lyrics are better than the ones he wrote.

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6434692

>>6434683
kek

>> No.6434703

>>6434678

Are you like fucking 30

>> No.6434706

>>6434667

>pac

take your party scene pseudo-progressive tripfaggotry elsewhere, it's disgusting.

>> No.6434711

>>6434706

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_pKKHNX9qw

>> No.6434713

More real than that venerable fraud Ezra Pound.

>> No.6434725

>>6434688

That's one way of saying you're pretentious.

>> No.6434742

>>6434678

Foucault
You don't have to put on the red light
Foucault
You don't have to shitpost on /lit/ tonight

Foucault
you don't have to download reaction pics all night
Foucault
you don't care if you're wrong or if you're right

Foucault
You don't have to put on the red light

I loved you since I knew you
I have to talk down to you
I have to tell you how everyone feels
We want to give you to another board
I know my mind is made up
So put all of your memes up
Told you once I won't tell you again
It's a bad way

Foucault
You don't have to put on the red light
Foucault
You don't have to wear the dress tonight

>> No.6434748

>>6434713
You're saying he's better than ezra?

>> No.6434753

>>6434742

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>> No.6434756

>>6434725

No, I am just honest and I don’t give credit to anybody only because of social pressure or political correctness.

>>6434713

They are both bad, but even Pound is better than him (Pound at least have read a lot). Now, only because somebody speaks of guns and tribal conflict and was raised in poverty you think that he is going to be more “real”? You mean “exotic”, I think.

And Foucault was a charlatan.

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6434763

>>6434756

>No, I am just honest and I don’t give credit to anybody only because of social pressure or political correctness.

>> No.6434766

all rap music is trash

>> No.6434767

>>6434688
>metaphors
>comprehension of life
>capacity for empathy
how's highschool?

>> No.6434772

>>6434763
Go get a job. You're already obnoxious and useless, your 2nd day shitposting.

>> No.6434777

>>6434753
I honestly have never used Skype in my life. What are you referring to? you've piqued my curiosity.

>> No.6434781

This is a literature board

>> No.6434784

>>6434688
They're song lyrics, not poetry.

>> No.6434785

>>6434763
>still trying to argue with meme pictures

>> No.6434791

>>6434636
>Is Tupac Shakur, /lit/?
No, he isn't, he was.

P.S. Fucking learn the fucking comma, thx.

>> No.6434793

>>6434646
>progressive is the same as politically correct
my gott

>> No.6434796

>>6434784

But they are still bad, Anon. The guy was an idiot. There was nothing of worth in his brain.

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6434799

>>6434766

"I listen to everything except country and rap"

>>6434772

I already have a job. Two jobs. That don't involve much, and I've been committed to for a couple years for the pay to be nice. And they're not even my primary focus. Which is higher education. I have $30,000 free right now, and that makes me, probably the only mildly financially stable person here right now.

I just enjoy being right, 24/7.

>>6434785

>still trying to argue with shit ideology

>>6434777

>I honestly have never used Skype in my life

That's because you are a loser.

>> No.6434808

>>6434799
>That's because you are a loser.

Post your face: let's see who the looser really is.

>> No.6434810

It's not a question of whether or not he was /lit/ but whether or not he lived the literary lifestyle.

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6434813

>>6434646
this.

>> No.6434820

>>6434808

Nah. Fuck you. You're all fucking NEET white nationalists and I'm not going to compromise myself for someone as low as you.

>> No.6434830

>>6434799
>Aye nigga I get money ya digg? I'm gettin my life together tho with dat college shit but in the meantime I get that paper from dat night watchman shit at the museum and my other junk down on mcdonalds nigga. Nigga I got enough money to buy a modest minivan nigga, we could get the whole crew up in here and fuck some bad bitches ya feel me?

>> No.6434841

>>6434799
>I have $30,000 free right now
I have something like 18.000 €, but I just paid 2.400 € for my annual commuting ticket.

>> No.6434851

>>6434830

I have no idea where this museum shit came from. I work management of security at a shipping warehouse. Fuck I'll even tell you it's in San Diego. The other is similar but just, watching. It's just another source of income.

This isn't about money. I'm not saying I'm rich or shit, just I am actually financially stable and working to stay that way whilst you rot blaming your problems on a conspiracy of Jews.

>>6434841

Cool, glad you can make a living.

>> No.6434853

>>6434767
If he can't lift the bar, don't expect him to be pumping out reps with two plates on the side.

>> No.6434857

>>6434799
Lel
200.000 Euro here. I just enjoy books and vidya.

>> No.6434860

>>6434857

I can make up shit too. I own a dinosaur, it's pregnant.

>> No.6434875

>>6434860
What you don't have are relatives who worked hard their whole life so you can bum around;)
Enjoy your two jobs.

>> No.6434878

>>6434851
>The other is similar but just, watching. It's just another source of income.
Tell me more. What are you studying as SDSU? What are you watching out for? Why do you litter commas all throughout your sentences similar to the brown chipmunk storing food for the winter?

>> No.6434879

>>6434820
>You're all fucking NEET white nationalists

No man. I am Brazilian. I work as a lawyer. I don’t have anything against anybody. I made this post, by the way:

>>6434688

The problem here is that you are offending people without arguing in favor of Tupac merits. You call us losers but you don’t even know us in real life. What makes one a looser? No job? Well, I have one. No girlfriend? I have a very cute one, and before her I had lots of girls. No published books? I published one book already. But do these things make me great? No: I can have all this things and still be a piece of trash, just like so many pop artists and icons around the world (Tupac is one of them).

Now, about Tupac: he was not only a terrible writer, he was also a rapist and a violent individual (one example: in the night he was shot he and his friends beat up some other guy: a case of group violence against a single individual –now that’s manly, a real case of honor and glory, don’t you think?). He is not a good artist (not even a mediocre one) and a piece of garbage as a human being. There is nothing in him to sustain any admiration.

>> No.6434880

>>6434875

please refer to my apatosaurus

>> No.6434884

>>6434851
I'm a copywriter in an ad agency in Germany and on the weekends I pretend to write my PhD on Stirner and postanarchism.

>> No.6434893

>>6434875
I don't really care much for this thread, but can you tell me more about how you came to being in your position? Sounds sweet.
Do you lack a sort of sense of belonging when you're a NEET?

>> No.6434894

>>6434875
>african american
>two relatives who worked hard their whole lives so you can bum around

>> No.6434895

>>6434878

I'd like to know more about your lack of financial stability.

>>6434879

>No man. I am Brazilian. I work as a lawyer. I don’t have anything against anybody.

I seriously doubt it.

>>6434884
>I'm a copywriter in an ad agency in Germany and on the weekends I pretend to write my PhD on Stirner and postanarchism.

I don't doubt this.

>> No.6434903

>>6434878
>Why do you litter commas all throughout your sentences similar to the brown chipmunk storing food for the winter?
[kekking intensifies]
don't really seem to be that many commas, though.

>> No.6434905

>>6434880
Will do. Your Apatosaurus might even want to say with me. At least I can afford to feed it.

>> No.6434907

>>6434636
>,

>> No.6434909

>>6434895
>I'd like to know more about your lack of financial stability.
I will tell you more about my situation only after you answer my three previous questions satisfactorily. I have no reason to lie or deceive you as I am anonymous and post without ego.

>> No.6434910

>>6434903

>[kekking intensifies]

Why do you type like this?

>> No.6434916

>>6434905

I own a yacht and 800,000 dabloons and I post on /lit/ what are you talking about

>>6434909

No.

>> No.6434925

>>6434683
Well, then, his poetry is shit.

>> No.6434927

>>6434895
>I seriously doubt it.

Well, don’t: I am speaking the truth. I am not that new: I am already 28.

And I have seen those gang criminals very near me (when I was studding criminal law), and I can’t stand any form of apology (even more if it is in the form of mediocre pseudo-art).

Also: are you black or something to be defending Tupac this hard and calling others white-nationalists?

>> No.6434928

The thread should be is Lil B a poet.

>> No.6434936

>>6434927
>I am already 28
>28 washed up over exaggerated wealth boasts on 4chan

that's really pathetic. That is fucked up.

>> No.6434943

>>6434893
Just inherited some money that my grandparents left me and my cousins. Then I moved to a country with lots of pretty girls and decided to teach my mother language. Meanwhile I let the money grow. There'll be more anyway when my parents die.

>> No.6434944

>>6434927
>Also: are you black or something to be defending Tupac this hard and calling others white-nationalists?
No one would defend a black rapper more rabidly than someone from the white middle-class.

>> No.6434945

>>6434742
kek

>> No.6434946

>>6434927
>Also: are you black or something to be defending Tupac this hard and calling others white-nationalists?
He wears a trip called 'Foucault' and likes nigger thugs. Come the fuck on, he's as white and privileged as they can come; SJW is a disease that afflicts only the privileged.

>> No.6434955

>>6434946

Then he must be under 18 or something.

>> No.6434963

>>6434944

I'm not even saying pac is /lit I'm just saying he's more /lit/ than Rand while Lil B is more /lit/ than Stirner.

>>6434946

Lmao at 17 year old /pol/ kids trying desperately to make up my Secret Identity because I can't be a financially stable black dude with an interest in dancing around arm chair philosopher white supremacist NEETs

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6434965

>>6434742
Nice

I fucking hate that kid

>> No.6434971

>>6434965

Why are you congratulating someone for replacing words to a dad rock police track like it's a stinging insult. Like, I know this is organized, this is a joke.

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6434973

please stop bumping non-literature threads, thank you

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6434976

>>6434973

No

>> No.6434980

>>6434963
>because I can't be a financially stable black dude with an interest in dancing around arm chair philosopher

I was really going to be surprised if you were a black dude who posted about math, chemistry and physics on /sci/.

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6434983

>>6434971
Fuck off to your janitor job already

>> No.6434985

>>6434927
I'll go over what I know about Foucault as I have been compiling all of his posts because he is an eNIGma to me.

>is african american
>lives in san diego where he goes to SDSU
>doesn't talk about literature except to talk shit on jokes like evola and ayn rand
>interested in extraterrestials ayy lmao
>works as a security guard at a wharehouse and another job "watching" (I assume for ufo's but he won't elaborate)
>has access to $30,000
>likes to post reaction pictures, usually of george clooney or the I am always right guy, but also reddit tier pictures of neckbeards
>imagines the everyone who argues with him to be "Fat NEET white nationalists"
>believes himself to be 4chan's only black liberal

>> No.6434996

>>6434980

Why would I post on /sci/

>>6434983

Hard Projection.

>>6434985

That's all accurate except I'm not the liberal here, everyone else within this thread, is a liberal.

>> No.6434997

>>6434996
even the alien stuff? you watch for UFO's?

>> No.6435006

>>6434636
>Is Tupac Shakur, /lit/?

,Do you, always ask questions, like this, ?

>> No.6435009

>>6434997

I made a thread once about how I was interested in UFO folklore from a post modern perspective of myth. There is an entire genre of literature dedicated to the subject, taking it increadibly seriously. It might be the greatest example of Meta fiction, and it's really the last great moment of creativity in horror literature, despite it claiming to be anything but.

I personally, do not believe in UFOs, or Aliens visiting Earth for that matter.

>> No.6435033

I like Tupac.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gODvA_SdXCY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY1KXf0hlkQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9uEtplq6CI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo_dLFHlFdg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hARz7Ymilqo

>> No.6435047

>>6434943
wow. interesting.
Were you close to your grandparents?
What did your cousins do?

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6435103

It's hard to be legit and still pay the rent
And in the end it seems I'm heading to the pen
I try to find my friends, but their blowing in the wind
Last night my buddy lost his whole family
It's gonna take the man in me to battle this insanity

I enjoyed this.

>> No.6435306

>>6434841

Tfw been trying to save nearly a year and you only have €300 saved T_T

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6435355

>>6434688

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6435442

>>6434688
Kill yourself.
Rappers are the new poets and he is one of the greats.

>> No.6435443

didn't he go to acting school?

>> No.6435448

>>6435442
>because I say so

>> No.6435449

>>6435442
Tupac a shit
listen to Eyedea

>> No.6435456

>>6435442
No.
Rap is shit.
No intent, no meaning.
Most rappers have no flow and their beats are shit. I have listened to rap my whole life and the only salvable shit is pretentious fuckery like Deltron 3030 or MF DOOM, and the latter is still amazingly vulgar and unsophisticated

>> No.6435472

>>6435456
>rap is shit
>but i've listened to rap my whole life

makes sense.

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6435475

>>6435448
>>6435449
>>6435456

>> No.6435481

He might be to some people and not to others.

>> No.6435490

"On August 22, 1992, in Marin City, Shakur performed at an outdoor festival, and stayed for an hour afterwards signing autographs and pictures. A confrontation occurred and Shakur drew a legally registered Colt Mustang, and allegedly dropped it. As it was picked up by a member of his entourage, a bullet discharged. About 100 yards away, Qa'id Walker-Teal, a 6-year-old, was pedaling his bicycle at a school playground nearby when a bullet struck him in the forehead and killed him."

Ayy lmao