/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.6420436]

Why is he such a hack?

[Anonymous No.6420439]

LOTR/GOT/THEHOBBIT

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[Anonymous No.6420480]

>>6420439
>implying the lotr trilogy isnt the goat anti-modernist thesis

[Anonymous No.6420492]

Lol did he actually say that?

[Anonymous No.6420517]

>>6420492
Yeah what a hack. Didn't he notice Tauriel?

[Anonymous No.6420531]

>>6420480
LOTR isn't a 'trilogy', it's one long novel. The publishers originally split it into three volumes because back in 1954 they were allergic to long-ass books, unlike today. (Now it's the longer, the better.)

Serious people buy the omnibus LOTR anyways.

[Anonymous No.6420548]

>>6420517
>Didn't he notice Tauriel?

He did notice, but he was talking about empowered feminazi dyke queer otherkin womyn who take no orders from the white man.

[Anonymous No.6420556]

>>6420548
lame

[Anonymous No.6420560]

>>6420436
Did no one tell him that Tolkien wrote it just for his kids until his friends pushed him to publish it

[Anonymous No.6422358]

>>6420531
>The publishers originally split it into three volumes
Six.

[Anonymous No.6422418]

>>6420548
Maybe he is talking about the book, where Tauriel doesn't appear.

[Anonymous No.6422449]

>creepy

like that fucking beard you fat faggot

[Anonymous No.6423696]

>>6420436
Cuckception

[Anonymous No.6423744]

"I think a lot of people read and respect fantasy storytelling. A lot of the more forward-thinking colleges offer classes studying it, though they usually call it speculative fiction or magical realism to make themselves feel better. We all know the truth though: it’s fantasy.

As far as having my book recognized as literature? Why would I want that? I mean, have you read Great Expectations? Gech. Why would I want to invited into their little club? Give me Tim Powers and Phillip K Dick. Give me Le Guin, Gaiman, and Pratchett. Give me McKillip and Whedon. These are the storytellers. These are our modern mythmakers. Our oracles. Our dreamers. I want to be on that team."

>implying

[Anonymous No.6423768]

>>6423744

>As far as having my book recognized as literature? Why would I want that? I mean, have you read Great Expectations? Gech. Why would I want to invited into their little club?

Did he really just cite one book as to why he wouldn't want anything to do with literature? Seriously? Just one book?

>Whedon
>Our oracle
>Our dreamer

This man is a clown.

[Anonymous No.6423773]

>>6420548
>He did notice, but he was talking about empowered feminazi dyke queer otherkin womyn who take no orders from the white man.
She's Sir Not Appearing in this Book - she was made up for the film.

[Anonymous No.6423783]

>>6423744
>>6423696
>'Academia is full of snobs looking down at people who enjoy fantasy'
>implies nobody could possibly enjoy reading Great Expectations

Why are authors of genre fiction such hypocrites?

[Anonymous No.6423801]

>>6422418
>>6423773
Even if he was talking about the book, I don't see how it is "fucking creepy".

Why do people HAVE to write female characters if they do not want to, just to please some dickhead with a hard-on for identity politics? I don't get it.

[Anonymous No.6423810]

>>6423744
how do people dislike great expecations

one of the most likable books i've ever read. funny, pretty prose, twisty plot, unpretentious, relatable. dickens was the most popular author of his generation for a reason, he's accessible.

[Anonymous No.6423819]

>>6423810
Who cares about good writing or interesting characters? It doesn't have spaceships or magic or elves so it must be boring.

[Anonymous No.6423889]

>>6420436
What does he know about dorfs? Maybe the dorf women have beards too?

>>6420531
Also, the editor (a horrible set of abhumans) was a fag.

[Anonymous No.6423898]

>>6423810
It takes too many meandering side trips for my liking. I can't well criticise Stephen King for it but give Dickens a free pass for some reason, especially seeing as it's not as if his asides help with world building or anything. It's his most annoying trait and I rather wish he'd written more short stories to avoid that sort of nonsense.

[Anonymous No.6424264]

>>6420436
Literally who

[Anonymous No.6424404]

>>6420531
>unlike today. (Now it's the longer, the better.)

[Anonymous No.6424428]

>>6423768
He knows what his audience wants.
His audience is the people who complain about the classics on reddit.
That's what the industry wants btw, you're supposed to advertise yourself now.

[Anonymous No.6425054]

>>6420436
>outspoken feminist
>writes the most notorious 'male power fantasy' of the last decade

this is what happens to you when you spend dicking around the campus for 8 years as an undergraduate

[Anonymous No.6425092]

>>6423801
The reasoning goes that half the population is female. Writing a novel where women don't even play bit parts is ludicrous in that respect, and reveals the prejudices of the author.

[Anonymous No.6425126]

>>6425092
>Writing a novel where women don't even play bit parts is ludicrous
i lived entire years of my life in which no male to female interaction was involved at all

[Anonymous No.6425138]

>>6423783
Persecution complex.

[Anonymous No.6425142]

>>6425126
Then it was still an equal situation.

[Anonymous No.6425152]

>>6425092

It's almost as if in a story focused on combat and harsh travel in a medieval setting women wouldn't play roles that would even remotely matter to the story.
Incredible!

[Anonymous No.6425195]

>>6425142
so if i made a story about that it wouldnt be (gasp!) CREEPY?

[Anonymous No.6425220]

>>6425195
It would be quite creepy, but not unfair in your social representation.

[Anonymous No.6425266]

>>6425220
whereas another story like the hobbit is, in fact, unfair?

[Anonymous No.6425278]

>>6425266
Only in its social representation at face level, yes. It should be considered if the scenes in villages and the like are also men only.
Many children stories have an unfair social representation in terms of numbers. You could consider a genre element. Boys don't like reading about icky girls.

[Anonymous No.6425299]

I have stolen princesses back from sleeping barrow kings. I burned down the town of Trebon. I have spent the night with Felurian and left with both my sanity and my life. I was expelled from the University at a younger age than most people are allowed in. I tread paths by moonlight that others fear to speak of during day. I have talked to Gods, loved women, and written songs that make the minstrels weep.

You may have heard of me.

Fucking lol.

[Anonymous No.6425321]

>>6425299

No they fucking aren't, and the magic system is shit. And FYI, I've been into fantasy for as long as I can remember; it's why I despise this book. Any fucking generic RPG has a better magic system than this piece of trash.

On-topic, I HATE this book OP. And let me explain to you, that when I use the word hate, I mean it, I mean absolute unbridled hatred, and furthermore, I can't think of a single other thing in this world I hate. I can think of things I dislike, certainly, things I would subjectively classify as weak or inferior, but this book is just fucking S H I T in EVERY - CONCEIVABLE - WAY.

I should mention that I read this book because at the time, and I'm not sure if this is still the case, but fucking Steve Erikson had a quote on the cover, something along the lines of, "This is the dark version of Harry Potter we're all been waiting for." Now I don't like fucking Harry Potter either, but whatever, it was in /lit/'s god-tier fantasy list alongside TC and PoN so I figured what the hell.

And let me explain to you pussy-quitters - I FINISHED THE BOOK. YES. I FINISHED IT. AND NOTHING HAPPENS. NOTHING FUCKING HAPPENS IN 600 OR WHATEVER THE FUCK PAGES IT HAD. WOW.

SO IT STARTS OFF WITH A MYSTERY, HIS FAMILY DIES, NOBODY GIVES A SHIT, HE'S A POOR KID FOR A WHILE, THEN HE GOES TO SCHOOL, PLAYS THE FUCKING VIOLIN OR WHATEVER, AVOIDS A VEGETARIAN DRAGON AND THE BOOK ENDS ON A CLIFFHANGER WITH HIM GOING INTO SOME LIBRARY. WOW. NEVERMIND THE FACT THAT THIS ROTHFUSS BITCH IS LITERALLY JUST WRITING ABOUT HIMSELF, AND ALL OF THESE FUCKING SHEEP ARE SAYING HOW GOOD IT IS. WOWIEEEEEEE. EVEN A HENTAI HAS A BETTER STORY AND WRITING.

Okay, I'm sorry /lit/, I literally can't help myself. This is the worst 'thing' I have ever experienced, and I've seen some REALLY SHITTY MOVIES and played some REALLY SHITTY GAMES, OKAY? NOTHING EVEN COMES CLOSE TO THIS. NOTHING IN THE WORLD IS AS BAD AS THIS BOOK, I GUARANTEE YOU.

Having said this, you must read this book. I am sincere in this OP, it's so bad that it must be read learned from. I understand, it will be hard: the characters are shitty, there is no plot, the prose is boring as fuck, and the world-building is babby's first fantasy - but it must be done.
This isn't just another shitty fantasy book. When I put this book down I knew that this was garbage of monumental significance, trash that went beyond all other trash in history; reading this is your walkabout, an anabasis, an event, a test of manliness. By reading this book you will learn to appreciate all other books, even the shitty ones, because at least they're works of love, even if they're the products of piss-poor authors; this is the work of Satan. There's a reason both of these motherfuckers have red hair, this book is the ANTI-literature the ANTI-art, the ANTI-quality, the ANTI-LIFE - OKAY?

Keep in mind, these feelings have lasted for years; I read this when it came out. It's truly the worst a human has ever created.

[Anonymous No.6425392]

>>6425321
>I should mention that I read this book because at the time, and I'm not sure if this is still the case, but fucking Steve Erikson had a quote on the cover, something along the lines of, "This is the dark version of Harry Potter we're all been waiting for."
>someone was convinced to read a book because of this

[Anonymous No.6426859]

It's a damn shame that stories need to be politically correct these days. Why can't a bro just bro out with his bros?

[Anonymous No.6426882]

>>6426859
Word, those are the best books too