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6390523 No.6390523 [Reply] [Original]

If you could purge one ideology (and all of its followers) from existence which would it be and why?

>> No.6390535
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6390535

Humanism

>> No.6390543

Hedonism

yes, high school is going well :^)

>> No.6390546

None, that would be wrong. I would like to see atheism disappear though, but not at the cost of killing its adherents.

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Objectivism

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secular / atheistic humanism

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Nihilism, every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

>> No.6390629

SJWs

>> No.6390638

egalitarianism

>> No.6390651

>which would it be and why?
>and why?
>AND WHY?

>> No.6390663

Marxism.

Literally an ideology for children and pseudo-intellectuals.

>> No.6390677

>>6390663
I wouldn't call myself a Marxist, but your kind of post is precisely the kind I'd expect from someone who thinks Marxism is communism. I'd love for you to explain how Marxism is "for children and pseudo-intellectuals."

>> No.6390686

Another vote for egalitarianism.

>> No.6390690

>>6390523
Christianity. Maybe just protestants. Or at least the US version of . I've never seen a more anti-intellectual group of people in my entire life. Motherfuckers actively shit on everything not corporately branded Christian. And when I say everything, I mean everything.

>> No.6390694

Abrahamism if I can get them to count as a single ideology. Otherwise just the protestant work ethic.

Fuck the west.

>> No.6390697

Christianity and Islam.

>> No.6390706

Contrarianism.

>> No.6390715

>>6390523
Stupidism

>> No.6390775

>>6390523
Dialectism

>> No.6390781

Morality.
I killed my hamster today.

>> No.6390796

>>6390697
>one
You're not good with numbers, are you?

>> No.6390847

>>6390523
Relativism and levelling

>> No.6390853
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>>6390535

>> No.6390862

>>6390796

This is lit

>> No.6390867

>>6390523
OPism

>> No.6390870

>>6390523
Assholism

>> No.6390882

>>6390677
s/he can't. s/he's literally a child and a pseudo-intellectual

>> No.6390883

Capitalism

>> No.6390891
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Patriarchy

>> No.6391059

>>6390523
Islam

>> No.6391106

Reactionaries, because then there would ever be a reaction to anything to have to deal with. More bang for yer buck.

>> No.6391108

Marxism

>> No.6391119

I'm trying to think of which ideology would be the highest body count.

>> No.6391125

>>6391059
Idiot

>> No.6391126

Judaism, nothing personal I'd just want to see how different the present ends up without their presence and ideas since the time of the pharaohs.

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>>6391126

>> No.6391165

>>6391140
Well, on one hand it was the abrahamic descendants who organized the state controlled distribution of food in ancient egypt, without that there wouldn't had been an empire as we think. Probably someone else would had thought about that instead of them, maybe blacks would be the jews of that universe.

>> No.6391169

The ideological foundation of Western Civilization in totality.

>> No.6391178

>>6391169
>I wanna be Foucault
>I can't think of any particular foundation of western civilization

>> No.6391185

>>6391125
Muslam :^)

>> No.6391195
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Self-identity view

>> No.6391197

>>6390523
Fascism.

>> No.6391200

>>6391119
non-solipsism, or whatever you would call it.

>> No.6391206

>>6391178

I'll give you one example, anon!

Western societies have established the confession as one of the main rituals we rely on for the production of truth. Continuous incitement to discourse and to truth. The Christian Church in the makings of what we would call European civilization, helped to give the confession a central role in the order of civil and religious powers. The confession became one of the West’s most highly valued techniques for producing truth. We have singularly become a confessing society. The confession has spread its effects far and wide. It plays a part in justice, medicine, education, family relationships, and love relationships, in the most ordinary affairs of everyday life, and in the most solemn rites; one confesses ones crimes, one’s sins one’s thoughts and desires, ones illnesses and troubles; one goes about telling, with the greatest precision, whatever is most difficult to tell. One confesses in public and in private, to one’s parents, one’s educators, one’s doctor, to those one loves; one admits to oneself in pleasure and in pain, things it would be impossible to tell to anyone else, the things people write books about. When it is not spontaneous or dictated by some internal imperative, the confession is wrung from a person by violence or threat. Western man has become a confessing animal

In so doing, we have adopted the infinite task of extracting from the depths of oneself, in between the words, a truth which the very form of the confession holds out like a shimmering mirage

The obligation to confess has shaped psychology, and the subtext of our interactions. We no longer perceive it as the effect of a power that constrains us.

Western Society's ability to believe everything it does is as an objective viewer has lead it to defend its own poorly thought out errors which have significantly damaged it's role as an objective just leader of man, so it proclaims. Market worship has only exacerbated the problems evident, but not recalled or thought upon.

>> No.6391213

>>6391125
Feel free to try and say why it is idiotic.

>> No.6391225

>>6391206
shit.

why does this describe my current relationships with people around me so well goddammit.

>tfw you are just a culture's puppet

>> No.6391226

>>6391206
Worst kind of wordplay-based bullshit
>We no longer perceive it as the effect of a power that constrains us.
Because it's not. All those instances claimed of "confession" are pulled from emergent interactions resulting from the concept of truth and the pragmatic notion that truth is valuable

>> No.6391243

>>6390523
Wahhabism

>> No.6391247

>>6391226

Which are both ideals recycled by Europe from long ideas from the Near East endlessly recycled until you get, really, exactly what I'm describing, admitting the Church's role in developing Europe and giving it a guiding compass. It's learned behavior taught only in subtext to direct that works exactly as Foucault described, it did.

If you think ideas exist in a vacuum you're committing the same error that Western Civ already has.

>> No.6391258

>>6390523
Neoliberalism/Neoconservatism. Worst thing to happen to humanity, bar none.

>> No.6391261

Ideology is not something bad on its own, though OP and other posters make it seem like it is. You cannot erase ideology from the world, you cannot live without an ideology, in the same way that you cannot sustain to be alive without being inserted into the symbolic.

Also, ideologies don't have followers or adepts, but people who live within it. It's not an opinion or a misconception, but a relative thing that you deem as absolute. Not like something you could argue to be absolute, but something you have never even considered to be anything else from what it is.

Take one ideology out, a new one grows in its place. There is no reason to choose one ideology instead of another to purge from the world if not to make a statement on which way of thinking you oppose and keeping your own ideologies safe from being questioned.

>> No.6391264

>>6391261
so should I delete the thread?

>> No.6391312

>>6391206
I was reading about institutionalized forgivness and how it evolved from the catholic confession to the construction of artificial guilt that is cured by material products. Eduardo Gruner doesn't get translated enough.

>> No.6391321

>>6390535

What the fuck did you just say about me, you little humanist? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in Queer Studies (though the very concept of “top of the class” is a purely humanistic, highly phallogocentric bourgeois power structure), and I’ve been involved in numerous widely publicized raids on traditional academia, and have coined over 300 confirmed neologisms. I am trained in decuntstructional criticism and I’m the top grammatologist in the entire western world. You are nothing to me but just another phallus. I will wipe you the fuck out with vagueness the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words (although this is not to say that it hasn’t been seen before in another World-Context). You think you can get away with saying that shit to me in plain English? Think again, grammarian. As we speak I am contacting my secret nonhierarchical network of psychoanalysts across France and your IP is being hermeneutically traced right now (although the Now is merely a masculinist construction) so you better prepare for the storm, humanist. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your academic career. You’re fucking dead, crypto-reactionary. I can be anywhere, anytime (as space-time is only a reflection of the Oedipal analytic of Otherness), and I can deconstruct you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s without a citation to Derrida. Not only am I extensively trained in Postmodern deconstruction, but I have access to the entire nonempirical arsenal of psychoanalytic ontology and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your humanist ass off the face of academia, you little crypto-fascist. If only you could have known what gynocentric retribution your little “clever” theory was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn misogynist. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, humanist.

And yes, I did wait quite a while to post this.

>> No.6391437

>>6391321
>but I have access to the entire nonempirical arsenal of psychoanalytic ontology

Kek

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>>6391321

>makes snowclone of reddit copypasta to make some kind of weird non-point about ESS JAY DUBBLYOOZ

>> No.6391479

>>6391466
"SJWs" are a fiction, and not a very good one at that. I just made that one for fun. It is meant to do nothing more than gently make fun of the more absurd branch of Postmodern theory. You need to stop spoiling for a fight all the time. Chill out, my man.

>> No.6391503

>>6391466
this one doesnt have the same ring to it as 'my soggy knees' but its a good try

>> No.6391516

>>6391503
Yeah but misogyny is a real thing and belittling it makes you an asshole.

>inb4 "lel cuck", thank you for your contribution

Captcha: rread

>> No.6391524

Spooks

>> No.6391543

Puritanism
This way America as well as most fundie Muslims get wiped out, it's like killing two birds with one stone

>> No.6391570

>>6391516
Yeah but assholes are a real thing and belittling them makes you costive.

>inb4 "lel toilet humor", thank you for your constriction

Catpcha: Atner

>> No.6391581

>>6391570
This is unreal.

>> No.6391585

Revisionism

>> No.6391602

>>6390891
Lel nothing would change

>> No.6391608

>>6391543
In what universe is even half of America Puritan?

>> No.6391646

>>6391608
Religious education
Censored swear words
No boobies allowed on most mainstream movies as well as all social media
Sexual interest (or any kind of interest toward a girl) interpreted as harassment
Slut shaming
Marrying early
False rape accusations
Abortion still being controversial
Retardedly high age of consent
People getting offended at profanity or even dick jokes
Retarded date system
Still buying into the "man gives money woman gives sex" paradigm

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>>6391585
Aw year

>> No.6391653

>>6391646
>Retarded date system
Wat? That just sorta slipped in there for no reason. What does are unintuitive system for dating have to do with ANYTHING you just mentioned? What the fuck, man?

>> No.6391662

>>6391653
normal people just have sex with each other if they're into each other, they might use alcohol to help but the deed should be done in one night
many americans i've had the displeasure of dealing with think you've got to invite the girl to a restaurant or something then you got to go to the movies to get the first kiss then get the first boob fondling or whatever etc. it's all exceedingly slow and tedious for what it's worth

>> No.6391665

>>6391602

in the running for stupidest shit vomited from an ape behind a keyboard in a while

>> No.6391666

>>6391662
OOHHH, I thought you were talking about the month/day/year system. topkek

>> No.6391672

>>6391666
I also thought the same thing, Satan.

>> No.6391706

>>6391646
>>6391543
The worst thing about puritanism is that you never ever grow out of it. You might react against it and go full stud (or slut) and fuck left and right but a part of you will forever think that what you're doing is wrong or a sin or whatever and that you should marry a nice pure girl etc. and all the pleasure you'll derive from your promiscuous lifestyle will be that of transgression as opposed to the natural act itself. It's like atheism in the United States: they can't grow out of their religious beliefs so they go full fedora, whereas in Europe no one ever cares that much.

>> No.6391739

>>6390523
I wouldn't "purge" anybody. I would like to rid the world of the kind of people who think purging people will wipe away an idea.

>>6390543
>No fun allowed
What kind of teenagers are they putting out these days? You're an idiot.

>>6390546
The cure for religious war is the end of religion. Your wish that people would not question the existence mythical creatures and characters of our ancestors, is such petulance.

>>6390576
>Tips foreskin

>>6390591
It just sort of is. Like physics.

>>6390796
How about Abrahamism

I mean, OP didn't specify very much here. Retroactively rid the world of the thought, or just vanish the adherents as they are today, or just switch their minds away from it? How would any of them not occur to someone?

>>6391665
Hear hear.

>> No.6392032

>>6391739
I like you le butterfly man

>> No.6392033

>>6392032
She's the weird lesbian aunt we all should have had.

>> No.6392039

>>6390523
Post-modernism/idealism/moral relatvism/religion

They're all the same really

>> No.6392040

Yeah, marxism.

>> No.6392049

>>6391119
Non-idealism

>> No.6392066

>>6390523
>If you could purge one ideology (and all of its followers) from existence
egoism.

>> No.6392073

Marxism.

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>>6392073

>> No.6392087

Individualism.

Let us make the struggle of the tthe individual spirit a null cause.

>> No.6392095

neoliberalism-spectaculism

>> No.6392114

>>6390882
Let's be honest, he's a he.

>> No.6392123

4chan

>> No.6392227

>>6390523
the quakers

>> No.6392401

>>6390697
I tip m'fedora to you kind sir!

>> No.6392423

>>6390883

Seconding Capitalism. Imagine how empty the world would be :D

>> No.6392456

Islam hasn't produced anything of value since Avicenna. Then again, Marxism hasn't produced anything of value ever, so it's a toss up between those two.

>> No.6392468

>>6390523
Absolutely neo-liberalism

IT IS NOT THE FUCKING END OF HISTORY

NO, WE DON'T HAVE TO SETTLE FOR THIS BULLSHIT

>> No.6392492

>>6392456
On second thought, Avicenna was great, probably good enough to save Islam.

So I stand corrected, fuck Marxism... and Fascism too since we are at it. Both have produced nothing of value except attempting the annihilation of each other.

>> No.6392499

Natalism

>> No.6392504

organized religion

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>>6392504

>> No.6392515

>>6392512
Contrarian-faux-Christian-anti-fedorism

Truly the most revolting ideology.

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>>6392512
>>6391466
>>6390535

>> No.6392530
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>>6392515
[FEDORA TIPPING INTENSIFIES]

>> No.6392539

>>6392530
I never take the Eucharist or go to mass, but I'm so invested in anti-atheism that I post pictures of hats on Chinese cartoon forums and pretend to be a pious Christian.

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>>6392523

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>>6392546

>> No.6392553

Post colonialism, multi culturalism and all that crap. white man is number one, obabo go home

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>>6392553
>Post colonialism
As if that were a thing.
We live in your neocolonialist white (yeah and Jew) ruled world.

>Mbcw* no one says "Obongo" anymore


*My book cover when

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>>6392553
>purge Post colonialism
>white man is number one

Apply urself, 2/10

>> No.6392568

>>6392523
>nothing in this worldview is actually falsifiable
>this means that even if every single aspect of what they claim is demonstrated to be completely inaccurate
>unfalsifiable
>demonstrably inaccurate

u wot m8

>> No.6392572

>>6392565
>We live in your neocolonialist white (yeah and Jew) ruled world.
would you prefer an african based dark ages?

>>6392567
even when white man speaks like black man, still better writing

>> No.6392577

>>6392568
Read:
One cannot falsify a Russell's teapot nor a deity that's defined as not spaciotemporal, omnipotent etc even if all the empirical consequences of both postulated by their advocates could be shown to be false. Young Earth Creationism is retarded for instance but disproving that still doesn't falsify a god that is by definition unfalsifiable.

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>>6392572
I would prefer an anarchist world. Duh.

>> No.6392604

>>6392584
but I like electricity and porn
>>6392577
*tips fedora*

>> No.6392615
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6392615

Judaism

>> No.6392620

>>6392615
After finding out about the Haredi, I'm inclined to agree. Those people are evil and they're producing children like crazy. It actually made me consider for the first time that all the antisemites throughout history may have been right about the Jews. Well, some of them.

>> No.6392652

>>6392620
The Jew is not the problem anymore.

Hitler understood the Jew and tried to wipe them out, as have many before him. But he, and they, were still working on the old model, the empire model, where one had to collect land and conquer the seaports; to physically own the people.The Romans, the British, the French, the Mongols, everyone did this and every empire was founded this way.

Then America came along. America understood the Jew too, but decided to harness their Jew power. They set about conquering the world, but through an ingenious Jewish model: they conquered the worlds banks and all international trade, they did it through conquering money itself.

The Jew is no longer the problem, America is. America caught the Jew and is now the puppet master.

>> No.6392656

>>6392652
I think it's the Jew who caught America.

>> No.6392664

>>6392656
>I think it's the Jew who caught America.
No, America owns the Jew for now by using Israel as leverage.

>> No.6392678

>>6392620
that's like hating the US because of the god hates fags morons

>>6392652
this would be true but america is actually captured by the illuminati

>> No.6392686

All of it, and no one caught up in it. Which is all of us. If I can to select a particular coordinate within Ideology to eliminate, it'd be fascism, that kind of populist fetishism. Even then, I wouldn't desire to "eliminate" people.

>> No.6392772

>>6390535
>Humanism
good one

>> No.6392777

I really don't like fascists, white supremists, or SJWs. I would purge those for sure.

I wouldn't purge Marxism but I think it's atrociously overrated.

>> No.6393076

>>6390523

Modern democracy.

How the hell did this not get nominated yet?
You fucking plebs. Kill yourselves.

>> No.6393081

>>6393076
>Modern democracy.
>>6390535
>Humanism

>> No.6393082

Judaism

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Religion.

>> No.6394048

>>6393166
I would post a fedora, but I lost my collection. Seems like jet fuel can indeed melt dank memes.

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Natalism.

>> No.6394073

>>6394068
Hahaha, this. Holy shit.

>> No.6394160

>>6391264
No, you're transforming what I said again into a "should". You don't have to delete thread, you don't have to crush ideology, this feeling that you "ought to do something" is precisely the way in which ideology works on us.

>> No.6394197

>>6392523
Fedora meme only exists because people realized all atheists arguments are essentially memes and shitposting

Who's going to write a Kierkegaard style essay when you can just shitpost and annoy them

>> No.6394213

>>6390677
reminder that marx believed in 'primitive communism' which cements him, the originator, as a child

>> No.6394216

>>6391169
what's the ideological foundation? when was it established and by which figures? where do you live?

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>>6394068
>banging ex-gf 3 years ago
>she tells me she wants to have over 10 babies and has been trying unsuccessfully to get pregnant for the last 7 months
>my balls crawl up inside me in horror

i'm gay now, it's so much easier

>> No.6394225

Marxism

The antipode of nobility and grandeur.

>> No.6394246

>>6394225
I expect that sentence sounded better in your head, and where's the incompatibility between Marxism and grandeur? The Soviets were hardly averse to grand architecture, music, and so on

>> No.6394255

>>6394221
Jelly. How do I turn gay?

>> No.6394258

>>6394225

What's so great about nobility and grandeur.

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>>6394255
I became an avid gayboy like three years ago and I can't stop. I stopped watching straight porn and I don't spend much time on 4chan anymore.

Here's how I did it.

-Remember the average person does like zero gay things a year. If you do 5 gay things a day, you are 5 gay things above the average person

-Don't force yourself to be gay. Commit to doing 5 gay things a day. I swear after three days you'll feel like sucking cock more and after a month or so you should be banging 5-10 guys a day for pleasure

-Fuck various guys at the same time. When I grab a difficult cock or one that makes my butt itch I grab another and switch. This should refresh your lust. Keep them thematically different. I fuck mostly asians and latinos.

-It isn't a race. Fucking slowly won't make you burnt out that fast. Try to acknowledge what cocks are for you to suck and which aren't.

-Buy male escorts. When you get the cocks from your own money you'll feel the need to fuck them to avoid the feel of wasting your money.

-Start with cocks highly discussed here so you feel motivated to discuss.

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>>6394274

>> No.6394279

>>6394160
But if I do nothing I am still playing into the hands of ideology, correct?

>> No.6394292

>>6392604
Anarchism isn't a return to primitivism, unless you want a cabin in the woods, it's just no government but your own.
Porn? I suppose the exhibitionism would continue.

>>6394221
You are bi

>>6394258
He gets hard for authoritarian men pushing him around.

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>>6394274

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>>6394292
i'm not into oni-holes though

i wouldn't say sexuality is binary, but you immediately understand i'm banging or interested in banging dudes when i say i'm gay, right? bi would imply i'm banging or interested in banging girls... unless you hold my dick forever into that wicked snatch of yours? i denounce it, for the self changes!

>> No.6394364

>>6394221
You could also date a trap, like I'm doing. I can cum in her ass with no complaints nor pregnancy risks.

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>>6394364
>her

>> No.6394390
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>>6394292
>Anarchism isn't a return to primitivism, unless you want a cabin in the woods, it's just no government but your own.
>She thinks infrastructure would remain intact after the collapse of a benign central government
I suppose your computer would be powered by children's dreams and unicorn tears?

>> No.6394405

>>6394390
You can have democratic situations without living under a democratic system. The point of the bourgeois is to build the infrastructure that will remain after the workers take them out, it just got out of hand.

>> No.6394429

Neofeminism.

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Optimism.

>> No.6394467

>>6394405
care to name an example where that has worked in the entirety of human history?

>> No.6394484

>>6394425

Late Neolithic, and for a time, a bit past the Neolithic.

>> No.6394488

>>6394484

for

>>6394467

>> No.6395165

Is it actually possible to call Conservatism an ideology, can one describe the general trends of thought associated with those who identify as conservative as an ideological movement? Well, those assholes anyway.

The only problem is the likely near-extinction of the human race.

>> No.6395271

>>6390523

Is ''people who; will enter into humanities, are in humanities, are influenced by humanities'' an ideology?

>> No.6395275

>>6395271
No, stemfag, no.

>> No.6395280

>>6395271
No, but people-who-don't-know-how-to-use-semicolons and people-who-dislike-the-humanities are.

>> No.6395286

>>6395271

Hey, buddy, I know you think STEM is the realistic choice and the only good choice. But guess what, it isn't. And guess who's not getting their dick sucked by art majors? you. And that makes you sad.

>> No.6395288

>>6395271

Jealous STEMoron