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>managed to

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>would of
>should of
>could of

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>suddenly

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>he intoned
>he declared
>he averred
>he yawned
>he spat
>he snarled
>he growled
>he deduced
>he questioned
>he proclaimed
>he explained
>he stated
>he implied

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>Thought
>Enough
>Through
>Thorough
>Laugh

I love the Gaelic culture, but these words need to be fixed.

But I hate these threads more than the words

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>have to
>has to
>that that
>whom

>> No.6388098

>ALL OF A SUDDEN

>> No.6388101
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>Prologue

>> No.6388599

>the
>of
>have

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>he replied
>he exclaimed
>she gushed
>"What are you doing?"


>any alliteration
>2015
>ISHYGDDT

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>consciously congruent

>> No.6388674

>he said

will they ever learn

>> No.6388677

>the

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>scoundrel
>pressed his hand
>fell in to

>> No.6388777

>once upon a time

this is so FUCKING overused!!

>> No.6388782

>>6388684
>strain
>pusillanimous
DAE p&v?

>> No.6388889

>>6388777
Name one book that does this.

>> No.6388942

>>6388889
a portrait of the artist as a young man

>> No.6388945

>>6388060
okay elmore

>> No.6388998
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6388998

>mfw this thread

what the fuck do you want me to do, delete all my works and never write again?

>> No.6389027

>>6388060
>he said
>he said
>he said
>he said

gr8 prose m8 i r8 it 8/8

>> No.6389031

>>6388998
lol m8 pretty much everything ITT is like basic shit.

Just read more and you'll subconsciously find new ways to do things.

>> No.6389043

>>6388033
What's wrong with "managed to"?

>> No.6389052

>>6389043
sexist

>> No.6389093

>>6389043
It's filler. It adds nothing to the sentence. If a person does something then obviously they have "managed to" do it.

>> No.6389097

>>6389093
it suggests some difficulty was overcome actually
"he drew the curtains"
"he managed to draw the curtains"

>> No.6389098

>>6389093
It suggests they had to put some effort into it.

>> No.6389102

>>6389093
It's not filler. "I managed to open..." suggests a greater level of difficulty than "I opened..."

>> No.6389106

>>6389097
>implying drawing the curtains is hard

what is he, some kind of retard?

>> No.6389110

>>6389106
I was imagining a pilot in a prison hospital pulling the curtains around his bed after losing his legs

>> No.6389114

>>6389110
*military hospital

>> No.6389269

>>6389110
It'd be even more impressive if he managed to pull them over his legs.

>He managed to draw the curtains over his legs
>Suddenly, he said, "I found my legs!" he said.

>> No.6389485

>>6389027
You must h8 Tolkien

>> No.6389493

>>6388033
>OP had managed to suck twenty cocks in one day!
Sounds alright to me.

>> No.6389494

>>6389269
>he said

>> No.6389504

>>6389093
it's not simply filler

>> No.6389507

>>6389504
Yes it is, the difficulty of the task should be implicit.

>> No.6389586

>>6388654
>>any alliteration
Costco walls kept consciously crawl
With varied vines of paint and ink
Still streams in silent alleys
Those twisting tags which twine between
Those that time permitted precidence

>> No.6389618

>>6389507
>difficulty of th task
but that's not the object, it's the level of the achievement, you're implying that someone barely did it.

>> No.6389651
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>he/she said surreptitously

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>>6389651
>he/she

>> No.6389667

>>6389663
>the letter h

>> No.6389674

>white American

>> No.6389682

>words

>> No.6389689

>>6389663

>> No.6389694

>>6388033
Im from /sci/ and I dont understand one single this in this thread

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>he
>she

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>third person point of view

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>Prior to

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>it was as if
>X is Y

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>>6389718

>first person point of view

>> No.6390385

>she managed to swell up into a blueberry, the cisgendered white male managed to surreptitiously imply. He would of intoned his implication, but the sheer incandescence of the blue light radiating off her swelling breasticles amelioriated his intonation into an implication, as we can see from this deduced, the author said

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>>6390297
>second person point of view

>> No.6390421

>>6389102
The difficulty should be evident from the context of the surrounding description. "Managed to" is at best lazy, at worst redundant.

>> No.6390430
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6390430

>Present tense

>> No.6390445

>>6388060
>he rebuked

>> No.6390448

>>6390421
*The difficulty should be evident from the context. "Managed to" is sloppy.

It seems you're less inclined to remove the unnecessary from your own writing.

>> No.6390458

>adverbs

>> No.6390468

>>6390448

The deletions you made to both sentences changed their meaning. It was a cute attempt at calling me out, though.

>> No.6390474
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>>6390458

NEVER use adverbs!

>> No.6390477

>>6390468
>I'm offended and feel myself subdued but I can't let either show
Stay precious.

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6390487

>the
>he
>she
>it
>and
>.
>,

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>>6390389
>fourth person point of view

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6390512

>tfw you use the "he/she said" too much
brb killing myself

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>>6388033
Half of this thread has a point. The other half has to be fucking joking. There's no need to strain yourselves into not using certain words and phrases only because they're commonplace.

>> No.6390519

>>6390477

Please tell the class how "sloppy" accomplishes remotely the same thing as "at best lazy, at worst redundant." The second phrase is more precise, therefore more informative. A more economical sentence is not always a better sentence. You have removed part of the meaning.

The same is true of subbing "context" for "context of the surrounding description." The first option poses the question: the context of what? (And while the argument for editing out the phrase is stronger here, I do not believe the phrase is strictly unnecessary, especially since the point is to clarify things to someone who is confused. Over-precision may sometimes be preferred, even if it is less artful.)

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>>6390514
>believing a thread that is mostly green has a point

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>>6390532
>Mr. Men series
oh fuck those were my niggas as a kid

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>>6390540
I was trying to find R34

>> No.6390583

>>6390519
A "lazy" act is sloppy, and a redundant piece of writing is one written without care- in other words, it's sloppy. So "sloppy" can be used to describe something that's lazy and / or redundant.

The case is stronger for the second instance because what you wrote WAS sloppy (read: redundant), because context IS the surrounding description, so you said the same thing twice.

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6390605

>any character is named 'Alice' that isn't from 'Alice in Wonderland'

>> No.6390630

>>6390583
>A "lazy" act is sloppy, and a redundant piece of writing is one written without care- in other words, it's sloppy. So "sloppy" can be used to describe something that's lazy and / or redundant.

Obviously. The point is that writing can be sloppy in more than one way. It might be lazy or redundant -- but writing can also be sloppy because the meaning is unclear, the meaning is different from what was intended, the grammar is incorrect (instead of just puffed-up), or any of a hundred other reasons. "Lazy" and "redundant" are specific criticisms that therefore add more meaning.

I won't argue about the use of "context," though. I stand by over-precision for clarifying things to someone, but in a piece of 'real' writing it would be better to nix the offending phrase. This is of course why drafting is the most important thing a writer needs to learn.

>> No.6390662

>>6390562
Here we go

>>6390512
Mr Suicidal

>> No.6390672
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>Arse
>Knickers
>Randy
>Bum
>Twat
>Minge
>Bugger

>> No.6390691

>>6388038

I would of course advise against a total prohibition on these phrases. For who should, of anyone here, deign to decree what grammar someone else uses?

I made all I could of the advice given here, but sometimes that advice is just plain wrong.

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>It goes without saying

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6390737

>even bothering to write a book that is not non-fiction or (being fiction) not written completely in dialogue form

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>"As you know, Klevlarr, the planet Beldersport was besieged by the War of the Five Suns in the Age of Yinx'gwin when Ryllar the Strong decided...

>> No.6391012

>English language

>> No.6391021

>>6391012
>using language at all

>> No.6391032

>>6391021
>Breathing at all

>> No.6391038

>>6390583
>>6390630
>tfw you managed to get into argument on /lit/

>> No.6391041

>>6391032
>belonging to the material world

>> No.6391044

>>6391041
>Belonging to any world at all

>> No.6391047

>>6391044
>being

>> No.6391048

>>6391047
>time

>> No.6391061

>>6391048
>

>> No.6391076

>>6391061

>> No.6391083
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6391083

>obeying grammatical rules

>> No.6391100

you know i'm trying to stand out among the americans when i use words like
>bloody
>___our
>___ise

>> No.6391433

>>6390737
The only book I can even think of that pulled this off was The Fall by Camus.

>> No.6391445

>>6388067
Don't forget taught.

>> No.6391451

>>6388684
>scoundrel

my nigga

>> No.6391835

>>6390494
>All awoken
>All went to places that all go
>All died

>> No.6391870

>literally

>> No.6391935

>>6391870
>People isn't allowed to use a word rightly because someone uses it wrongly
What now, complaining about per se because of a South Park episode?

>> No.6391940

>>6391870
>literaturely

>> No.6391962

>language

>> No.6391981
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>"fuck"
>"fuck"
>"fuck"
>"fuck"
>"fuck"
>"fuck" ten more times
>subsequent page "fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck"

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>short sentence. short sentence. short sentence. short sentence. short sentence. short sentence. short sentence.

>> No.6392598

>A paragraph of exposition
>Ends in an unrelated observation

>> No.6392637

>>6388684
>and so on and so forth

>> No.6392842

>>6392261
>people start bitching at you because you use more than one comma in a sentence
>they think it's suddenly way too hard to read

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>>6392261
>"clarity"
>"economy"
>"readability"

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>>6390487
>>

>> No.6392905

>greentext
>reaction image

>> No.6392926

>>6392905
>words

>> No.6392976

>>6390691
noice

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>iregardless

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>>6390691
nice one anon!

>> No.6393017

>>6388033
>reaction image

>> No.6393020

Why is managed to bad

>> No.6393027

>>6390691
>I would of course
Does it make sense without commas? English sin't my first language, btw.

>> No.6393028

>>6390737
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmsRN78qMxM

>> No.6393029

>>6393027
It's a stylistic choice. You can leave out parenthetical commas in short clauses if you want to.

>> No.6393034

>>6393029
No, you can't. You MUST put them in. Law 237 Part 2 Section B states that parenthetical commas must always be used, ESPECIALLY in short clauses.

>> No.6393045

>>6393034
>No, you can't. You MUST put them in. Law 237 Part 2 Section B states that parenthetical commas must always be used, ESPECIALLY in short clauses.

Ah, but you're forgetting amendment 164, subsection 6: Parenthetical commas -- as stated in Law 237 Part 2 Section B -- can be removed if the writer wished to use em dashes.

>> No.6393074

>>6391012
>>6391021
>>6391032
>>6391041
>>6391044
>>6391047
>>6391048
>>6391061
>>6391076
I love this board

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>>6393045
Are you calling me a liar, you old dog? I'm quite prepared to do fisticuffs with you if you don't retract your damning, incorrect remarks.

>> No.6393109

>>6388684
>had had

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>>6393093
You wot? Feck off ya ponce afore I giv ya a semi-colon.

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>He picks a random word or phrase
>He picks a random image
>He posts a thread about it

>> No.6394285

>>6393418
>He takes a whiskey drink
>He takes a vodka drink
>He sings the songs that remind him of the good times
>He sings the songs that remind him of the better times

>> No.6394308

>>6394285
>knocked down
>danny boy
>cry
>neighbours
>chumbawamba

>> No.6394310

ITT
>I haven't taken a single linguistics class

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>book has a trite sex scene written like you're supposed to imagine this is a movie

>> No.6394889

>not writing for profit