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Why so much Vonnegut hate here? Surely he's entry level, but that doesn't discredit his work.

>> No.6387467

>>6387442
literally reddit the author

I like him too but reddit likes him so /lit/ must hate him in order to maintain their sense of aloof superiority.

>> No.6387470

>>6387442
his books are fun w/o being pulp.

>> No.6387475

>>6387442
The disdain comes from the literary types who, in their youth, came into contact with more externally and socially competent people that had read one or two of his books for high school English and would claim that he was the greatest mind in literature.

Then there are the memers, and they'll just keep meme-ing.

>> No.6387482

>>6387442
>hey guys /r/books here

>> No.6387542

>>6387442
maymay or not
I like his short stories

>> No.6387544

>>6387467
/thread

>> No.6387546

>>6387482
>le 4chins mustard race xd

>> No.6387549

I not American, so I haven't read him apart from Slaughterhouse Five, which was shit.

Seriously, can Americans stop forcing their hack entry-level authors onto us?

>> No.6387552

He's decent. If you make a thread about a particular book or story you'll get some discussion.

>>6387467
>I maintain dumb stereotypes
>but I don't like them
>I just really need to feel validated
>so I invent rules to ascribe to them

>> No.6387566

I don't hate Vonnegut, but he's one of those authors that you respond to best when you're in your teens, and the appeal wanes a lot after that time.

>> No.6387587

>>6387442
He's too mainstream. Not hip enough. Too easy. I'm losing my sense of individuality when I read what the unwashed colleged fratbros read
How am I supposed to suffuse the air with my gloating if someone else understood him on the same level i did

>> No.6387602

He's patronizing and his concepts and technique are far less inightful and interesting than he presents them. The last 50 pages of S5 are unbelievably preachy.

>> No.6387630

>>6387602
>He's patronizing
this. He treats his reader like a child
>SPOT THE METAPHOR YET, M'READER?
>HOWS THAT SYMBOLISM TASTING
which explains why he's the #1 author for every pleb whose ever picked up a book

>> No.6387709

>>6387442
Vonnegut is usually associated with hipsters. 4chan likes to pretend that they have esoteric tastes but they dont, also contrarianism if someone is accepted as a good author like Orwell, Huxley or Joyce they will pretend its shit to seem more erudite than they actually are

>> No.6387805

>>6387442
I like him. Ignore the memesters OP.

afterall, they're always memeing and always will be. It's how the moment is structured. We just choose to look at the times when they are not.

>> No.6387814

Vonnegut is really interesting in that he's the only author who's fans rabidly insist that literally anyone who doesn't like them is lying while refusing to acknowlge any actual criticism. "Genre fans" do this somewhat but it's more general and obviously kind of an impotent bitching.

>> No.6387879

>>6387566
This was my experience as well. I couldn't get enough in my teens, but my interest in him waned. I remember Slaughterhouse Five was the first book I finished and then immediately started again and finished. Definitely a pivotal author in my development as a reader.

>> No.6388723

My high school soph year English teacher jerked him off every chance. Im 21 now, too late to enjoy Vonnegut?

>> No.6389182

>>6387442
Because school program features one of his worst books, and most do not read the rest.

>> No.6389198

>>6387549
Are all Europeans like you? If so, I don't know how you all haven't killed each other yet.

>> No.6389207

>>6387482
>im superior because i browse this mongolian scribbling consortium

>> No.6389225

>>6387805

underrated post

>> No.6389229

>>6388723

nope, I am 21 and just read Slaughterhouse 5, I quite enjoyed it.

it was not a challenging read by any means, but thats what was kind of nice about it

>> No.6389247

>>6389198
They tried.

>> No.6389253

>>6389247
Ah, but if only those conflicts had lasted into the nuclear age. Such a shame.

>> No.6389270

>>6388723
You were a teenager two years ago, so unless you've been studying English literature and/or philosophy extensively (which is possible) you haven't "outgrown" Vonnegut.

>> No.6389272

>>6387566
Yeah, but he's perfect for that age. I think it's great if you can connect with Vonnegut at that point in your life because his works have actual substance and they lead you further down the rabbit hole of good literature.

He's a far cry better than people like Chuck Palahniuk who teenagers become obsessed with (myself included).

>> No.6389287

Pynchon likes him. When he posted here he said he was converting to bokonism.

People hate him because they want to pretend they don't read for fun.

>> No.6390374

>>6387482
>>6387546
>just read Catcher in the Rye, what next?
>just read Stephen King's It, what next?
>just read Harry Potter, what's next?
>just read my first book at 23, what's next?

/r/books seriously is pleb tier.