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[Anonymous No.6379012]

i'm not sure if this is the correct board to ask, but /biz/ doesnt help, and I sure as hell am not going to ask /pol/. How can I educate myself in economics (in macro and micro), political science, and political history/philosophy? I am currently majoring in Economics (1st year) but want to read more about it in my free time. what are some good books to read for all different fields?

[Anonymous No.6379021]

begin and end here

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.6379030]

>>6379012
Well...

[Anonymous No.6379040]

>>6379021
>>6379030
any other readings than marx, smith, ricardo, engels, former presidents?

[Anonymous No.6379060]

bump

[Anonymous No.6379086]

>>6379012
If only you were attending some kind of institute full of educated and passionate people who could answer this very question.

Bloody teenagers

[Anonymous No.6379090]

>>6379086
on spring break

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.6379095]

>>6379040
:)

You could also get the Piketty Capital.

[Anonymous No.6379102]

>>6379095
literally have 'capital'

[Anonymous No.6379109]

>>6379021
>volume 1 only.

>>6379040
Mendel, Late Capitalism
Dyer-Witheford, Cybermarx
Dave Harvey
Dave Graeber

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.6379121]

>>6379102
During the crash I was reading up on little bits about economics, and came across this one. What I read seemed good.

[Anonymous No.6379127]

>>6379021
lol, you haven't read that book. Right in the introduction, Ernst Mendel outrights states that Capital Volume 1 is only a portion of Marxist economic writings. Marx intended to write around five to eight more volumes, but died before he could finish them. Volume 2 and 3 were published post-humously by Engels, and Theories of Surplus-Value by Kautsky.

Added with the fact that Marxist economics is its own school of heterodox economics that goes far beyond just Marx's writings alone. Ignoring the contributions of people like Hilferding, Luxemburg, and others (like contemporaries Kilman and Harvey, as an example) towards political economy would create an increadibly distorted image of how Marxists percieve economics.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.6379128]

I have other Braudel books. Annales school is good.

[Evola « Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » Kid !vKJYJAzBlI No.6379156]

Avoid Marx all together, its been out dated for over a hundred years.
Read Wealth of Nations>Economics in one Lesson>The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money


How can I accept the Communist doctrine, which sets up as its bible, above and beyond criticism, an obsolete textbook which I know not only to be scientifically erroneous but without interest or application to the modern world? How can I adopt a creed which, preferring the mud to the fish, exalts the boorish proletariat above the bourgeoisie and the intelligentsia, who with all their faults, are the quality of life and surely carry the seeds of all human achievement? Even if we need a religion, how can we find it in the turbid rubbish of the red bookshop? It is hard for an educated, decent, intelligent son of Western Europe to find his ideals here, unless he has first suffered some strange and horrid process of conversion which has changed all his values.

[Anonymous No.6379184]

>>6379156
>Avoid Marx all together, its been out dated for over a hundred years.
Avoid marginalism (the Keynsian, Chicago and Austrian schools) it has been outdated for 150 years.

>How can I accept the Communist doctrine
You can't, you start and end at that point without relating to the text at all.

>which sets up as its bible, above and beyond criticism
Mandel, Dyer-Witheford, opcit.

>dribble
dribble.

[Anonymous No.6379189]

>>6379156

>Austrian Economics

[Anonymous No.6379220]

>>6379184
>Avoid marginalism (the Keynsian, Chicago and Austrian schools) it has been outdated for 150 years

Nope, it's more relevant today than any other economic school, Keynesianism hasn't even been around for a hundred years. So you're dumb

[Anonymous No.6379224]

>>6379220
>ur dumb
Tell me how price is a proxy for utility when:

price only represents socially actualisable desires, not desire
utilities are incommensurable

The premises of your idealist philosophy are vacuous. In comparison, the marxist method of deriving categories from examining history remains valid, regardless of which categories we abandon as scientifically useless.

[Twiggy !!ErZLYHNhXgZ No.6379225]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/
George Orwell
http://www.washingtonpost.com/people/charles-krauthammer
The Assassins' Gate: America in Iraq
Terror and Liberalism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFW6EjxP2K8

[Anonymous No.6379232]

>>6379156
>marxism hasn't renowed itself
This funny thing happened to me the other day.

I was speaking with this well educated lad who describe himself as a "marxist". And of course we were speaking about marxism.
One of the first things he said was "well, all what marx said is obviously out-dated", and them proceeded to explain the new currents of marxism and how the whole concept has renewed their theories considering all the advances in mathematics and how they have learned to localize the social part of marxism to the different social realities (because the world isn't entirely european, you know?)

Nice pic btw. I like the part when the chicago school doesn't mention how they forced their ideas in some dictatorships around latinamerica. That was truly something only a marxist would do, right?

[Anonymous No.6379283]

>>6379012

Start here Anon

[Anonymous No.6379316]

>>6379086
>educated
You mean brainwashed
>passionate
You mean fascist

If youre american Uni is far inferior to your local library and internet connection

[Anonymous No.6379430]

>>6379012
Hobbes
Montesquieu
Smith
Herder
Burke
Tocqueville
Schmitt
Oakeshott
Hayek
Finnis

There you go. Read these chaps.

[Anonymous No.6380124]

>>6379316

I've had lectures promoting the healthy at any size movement and I've been forced to write in support of the body positive Dove campaign. I just want to read, write and think, why this other shit?

[Anonymous No.6380134]

>>6379283
>hey guys I want to learn about medicine
>read Galen, lol

[Anonymous No.6380136]

>>6379316
Fascism is bad now?

[Anonymous No.6382054]

>>6379012
>How can I educate myself in economics (in macro and micro)

Read a textbook.

[Anonymous No.6382062]

>>6380136
An ideology whose promoters would have any opponents persecuted, imprisoned, tortured and executed is pretty bad in my opinion

[Anonymous No.6382067]

>>6382062
Yes, all ideologies are bad, but why is fascism in particular bad?

EVERY DAY

FROM THE TRASH

[Anonymous No.6382081]

>>6380134
OP said he was interested in economics AND political history, dipshit

[Anonymous No.6382273]

Economic history is usually lacking from most economics programs so read up on it:

The Birth of the Modern World by CA Bayly followed by The Twentieth Century and Beyond by William Keylor gives you a decent grasp of modern world history,

For a detailed study of capitalism Braudel: >>6379128 followed by the Long Twentieth century by Giovanni Arrighi is the good way to start.

Coercion, Capital and European States by Charles Tilly is the leading book on state formation.

Macro: Apart from the textbook stuff you get I suggest reading Keynes, Polanyi, Mazzucati's the Enterpreneurial State, something out of Modern Monetary Theory. If you have leftist inclinations read Kalecki and Sraffa but avoid Das Kapital. Brad de Long has links to most important macro debates at the moment: http://www.bradford-delong.com/

Political philosophy and science: Start with a history of political theory by G H Sabine or some other overview. Then go for Nozick, Smith, Marx, Mill, Weber, Pateman - the sexual contract.

[Anonymous No.6382321]

>>6382273
If you are totally new to history: Millenium-A History of the Last Thousand Years is an easy way to start. The books I mentioned above cover the same timespan.

[Anonymous No.6382403]

Read your textbooks, OP. You'll get a lot more out of Smith and Ricardo if you already know your micro. Having said that, I would recommend you to read up on economic history. Eichengreen's Globalizing Capital, Polanyi's The Great Transformation and Piketty's book, along with his critics, are essentials. For political history, Barrington Moore Jr's Social origins and Why Nations Fail by Acemoglu and Robinson, with their critics.
I would emphasize: keep up to date. Capital in the XXI century and Why Nations Fauk aren't important because they're right (they're actually wrong about many things), but because they wrote books that are highly discussed in academia right now, and you're bound to face their ideas.

[Anonymous No.6383719]

>>6382403
Seconding Polanyi and the others; reading economic history is a fascinating way to see how all the econ you learn does and doesn't play out in the real world and it's absolutely essential if you want to actually do something with economics.