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[Anonymous No.6360173]

Unless you study philosophy at university, you'll practically be too old once you've enjoyed most of the western philosophical canon to make any meaningful alteractions to your life.

[Anonymous No.6360340]

>>6360173

Philosophy ain't religion mate. That's why I love it: you can study it, "preach it", but still not live it. Basically- you can be as hypocritical as you want!

See, with religion you have to live up to the ideals you espouse and preach otherwise your arguments hold no meaning and you're shunned by both the practitioners of the faith and those debating it.

With philosophy you can be the greediest little materialistic fuck and preach platonist idealism and marxist communism. Ain't nobody gonna give a shit. You'll still sound legit, credible.

You can be the happiest, clueless cunt out there- always laughing, enjoying banter and good eats and fucking your girl 24/7 and still make valid arguments in favor of nihilism- proclaiming it to be your school of thought.

I don't think you should change your life because of philosophy and if that shit happens it's gonna be spontaneous and in minuscule steps. Not like "Whoah, this Descartes dude thinks and therefore is. Yep. From now on I'm gonna try to think some more."

I do believe in praxis the academia...you name it. I do personally believe I should pursue truth (always be honest about my opinions), live up to the ethical values I claim to understand and, finally, live according to the philosophical doctrines I proclaim to be mine. I'm an idealist and a communist and that means I really don't give a shit about cash- most of my mates would confirm it.

But I don't think you have to be like that and I don't think it's a prerequisite to understanding philosophy or calling yourself a philosopher. I also don't think it's the point and goal of philosophy (especially not western, theoretical or even analytic philosophy) to alter a person's lifestyle. That's a very modern, individualist approach and is more befitting of eastern philosophy and it's doctrines of life.

[Anonymous No.6360371]

>>6360173
>you'll practically be too old once you've enjoyed most of the western philosophical canon to make any meaningful altercations to your life
A few basic understood axioms can have extremely broad applications, a person could change nearly every aspect of their life after reading only a single text. I think you are overstating the amount of knowledge required to apply philosophical notions on an individual perspective, more when you consider "living philosophically" is in itself a journey and not just a destination to someday achieve, and it could be argued the only way to achieve a philosophical living is by living philosophically or by being immersed in philosophy which doesn't require a university setting.

[Anonymous No.6360428]

>>6360173
If you study philosophy at university you'll have to worry about surviving with no money and won't have time to enjoy shit anyway.

[Anonymous No.6360435]

>>6360428
Such is life in USA, land of the free.

Luckily in my country the government pays for me to read the classics.

[Anonymous No.6360439]

>>6360435
I am from Europe and it's the same in many countries here too, where are you from.

[Anonymous No.6360458]

>>6360439

I'm from the UK and I got headhunted because of my philosophy degree as soon as I graduated.

[Anonymous No.6360460]

>>6360439
BR

[Anonymous No.6360461]

>>6360458
Good for you man, I have to choose between philosophy and international studies this year. I think I'm gonna keep philosophy as a personal interest.
Italy here

[Anonymous No.6360507]

>>6360428

To be fair and...perhaps only a bit idealistic- studying philosophy does teach you how to LEARN. It means you'll catch up pretty quick on any job outside of your (I hope not useless) field. At least that's what our profs keep telling us about the dropouts, lel

Still, we still have a bit of "philosophical" subjects in our high school education out here (glorious ex-socialist continental tradition) so I can always get a job teaching subjects like Ethics, Philosophy or Logic.So it isn't exactly hopeless. But you do have a point. No point in having a profound understanding of Being when you can't afford to...be.

[Anonymous No.6360522]

This is the literature board and yet nobody scoffed at 'alteraction'

Fucking teenagers

[Anonymous No.6360526]

>>6360522
>This is the literature board and yet nobody scoffed at 'alteraction'
>Fucking teenagers


80% of grammar bitching is produced by teenagers tho. And it could have been a typo. I really don't give a shit. We got the point of it (philosopher approved)

[Anonymous No.6360527]

>>6360458
Eh. Oxrbridge?

[Anonymous No.6360536]

>>6360507
That's true, I hope studying it by myself won't be too bad, but unfortunately, I need to eat first.

[Anonymous No.6360554]

how old is too old?

[Anonymous No.6360556]

>>6360522
>Being this mad.

[Anonymous No.6360559]

>>6360554
Stop trying to justify your perversions; It will never be legal.

[Anonymous No.6360570]

>>6360173
Everyone who is actually trying to work on something whether it be a novel, philosophy or whatever remember, being able to say, "Fuck the haters. I do what I do." is just another part of the job.

[Anonymous No.6360578]

>>6360559
>philosophy will never be legal

[Anonymous No.6360579]

>>6360173
Philosophy isn't about changing your life or the world. It's basically just thought masturbation.

[Anonymous No.6360587]

>>6360578
>philosophy will never be legal

Philosophy is in its essence anti-democratic. And that makes it ideologically illegal.

[Anonymous No.6360594]

>>6360587
you disgusting pedophile

[Anonymous No.6360599]

>>6360579
Do you not understand that governments operate under certain political philosophical assumptions? Philosophy affects just about everyone.

[Anonymous No.6360602]

>>6360579
without the orgasm

[Anonymous No.6360615]

>>6360340
Not everyone treats philosophy like a joke though

Also you talk like a faggot

[Anonymous No.6360649]

>>6360340
This is the sum result of post irony, behold.

[Anonymous No.6360650]

>>6360594
>you disgusting pedophile

for the last time, she is 400 years old, mom...damnit!

[Anonymous No.6360654]

>implying studying philosophy as an undergrad is anything more than reading excerpted texts, and yes that includes classes beyond survey courses

[Anonymous No.6360661]

>>6360522
Hahha everyone itt got rekt

[Anonymous No.6360662]

>>6360649
>This is the sum result of post irony, behold.

>ignoring valid points about western philosophy generally differentiating between praxis and theory and the comparison to eastern philosophy
>getting pissed at the brit/aussie/meme lang
>getting fedora-rustled because religion is mentioned in a neutral context

>making a patronizing "stout" classification of the poster which is, ironically, based on the very same "internet epoch" (aka bullshit) you identify as "post-irony"
>le trolled

[Anonymous No.6360670]

>>6360654
this, you'll be reading books most of the times anyway

[Anonymous No.6360676]

>>6360173
This is why here in europe, philosophy is taught in high school.

Americans are missing out.

[Anonymous No.6360682]

>>6360676
>Americans are missing out.

Kek, that's like saying Japanese people are into weird shit and African people are black.
Truisms, people- not epistemologically productive

[Anonymous No.6360691]

>>6360527

No, just a shitty redbrick. I got a good grade. It was a boring job though and I turned it down.

[Anonymous No.6360708]

>>6360507

There is no much to learn when you work in retail anon

[Anonymous No.6360782]

>>6360676
Typical European slave morality bringing up America into the conversation even though OP never stated thats where he is from

[Anonymous No.6360811]

>>6360340
>idealist
>communist

Well that does explain a lot, doesn't it?

[Anonymous No.6360840]

>>6360676
>This is why here in europe, philosophy is taught in high school.

Apart from political ideologies, no philosophy is taught in high school in my country in Northern-Europe.

[Anonymous No.6360850]

>>6360676
>speaking of Europe as some monolithic entity

[Anonymous No.6360867]

>>6360840
Philosophy is well taught in some Italian high schools. At least it was so 10 years ago.

[Anonymous No.6361407]

>>6360340
>With philosophy you can be the greediest little materialistic fuck and preach platonist idealism and marxist communism. Ain't nobody gonna give a shit. \
>You'll still sound legit, credible.

not to any one with half a brain

[Anonymous No.6361411]

the only respectable parts of philosophy is logic and epistemology, the rest is bullshit and outdated, especially metaphysics

[Anonymous No.6361423]

>>6361411

>implying your logic and epistemology isn't a result of a misunderstanding of ontology and metaphysics

[Anonymous No.6361433]

>>6361423
>implying your ontology and metaphysics isn't a result of a misunderstanding consciousness

[Anonymous No.6361437]

>>6361433

>implying consciousness isn't the ontic error done by epistomological cartesian fags

[Anonymous No.6361539]

>>6360340
>I'm an idealist and a communist
I wish I could say "stopped reading right there".

This is literally "I have never been through communism or know shit about anything but still parrot shit I read to look more intelligent" the post.

[Anonymous No.6361682]

>>6360682
rofl

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