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ITT: Books that changed your life

>> No.6355392

>>6355390
This book did absolutely nothing for me
Please tell me what I missed

>> No.6355395

I liked the part about how selfless lovers have to be and how walking on water means nothing, he wants much more than that. And his son was a little asshole, man. Good read, but I read it like 4 years ago.

>> No.6355400

>>6355390
I read it a while ago, and am thinking of rereading it since I got absolutely nothing from it. What's it about anyway? The author himself admitted that he didn't know how to tackle the second part of the book, and I think he's made a mess of it all.

In all seriousness, Western authors butcher Eastern philosophy whenever they try to interpret it.

>> No.6355404

>>6355400
It's about a guy finding enlightenment in the time of Gautama Buddha

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>>6355390

>> No.6355408
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>>6355390

Took me about an hour to read, felt very little from it, thought it was pretty shallow and trite

The prose wasn't so bad though

Anyways, for me it's either pic related, Ulysses, or Critique of Pure Reason

>> No.6355413

>>6355408
I respect your opinion. I'll give some of your suggestions a try

>> No.6355419

>>6355408
the movie is better

>> No.6355424

"If I make a PBJ sandwich it means nothing. If I spend my whole life making PBJ sandwiches, then I can talk about life. Even though all I did was make PBJ sandwiches the entire time. Thus it is the totality of the chain of events rather than any single occurrence that gives meaning." -Buddhartha

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>>6355390

>> No.6355442

>>6355429
Apologies in advance because I'm in my first year of college, but I didn't understand what was so profound about this. Please explain.

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>> No.6355446

>>6355442
I'm not that anon, but I don't get it either. To me, I put it sorta in the same category as Slaughterhours 5; that is "omg wtf" if you are in highschool or "edgy"

If you're not either of those, you don't get what's so great about it

>> No.6355453

>>6355442
He doesn't "feel" in the normal sense as say you and me. During his mothers funeral he only displays some sort of emotional reaction is when he's outside in the heat of the sun, a theme that comes back later during the murder of the arab

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>>6355453
dont post about the stranger again

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>>6355458
Ok, anon

>> No.6355544

The Coming Insurrection- The Invisible Committee

>> No.6355666

>>6355413

glad to help. Also, again, I don't think Siddhartha was bad, I just personally got nothing out of it.

>> No.6355686

>>6355544
Wasn't that written by secret policemen bourgeois?

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>>6355442
He just rehashes general existential "void of meaning/ meaninglessness" and Nietzsche's Amor Fati
Anyone serious will say it's a good book, but not that impressive

>> No.6355708

>>6355453
How's highschool?

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>think siddhartha in the book is siddhartha as in the buddha and that the book is a fictionalized biography
>make a damn fool of myself in a world religions seminar

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6355731

made me an insufferable cunt for a few months

>> No.6355736

>>6355458
/lit/ is starting to hate on Camus because he's getting popular due to /it/

a recurring theme in imageboard culture

>> No.6355749

>>6355429
Lol convicted of murder because he didn't cry at a funeral
Always put on a show, folks

>> No.6355751

>>6355712
That's why you always check your sources.

>> No.6355787

>>6355736
I don't think so. When i first came here, like one year ago, The Stranger was a meme at the same level than Infinite Jest or Gravity's Rainbow. But it is no more.

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>>6355787
that's exactly what I just fucking said

reread my post

>> No.6355795

>>6355791
I told you he was popular months ago, and now (NOW) none cares. The discussions around Camus are non exist. So none is starting now. You came later to the party, angry cat.

>> No.6355796

>>6355795
so to you Camus is flavor of the month in your special book club

we must read books at the pace of memes?

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Das Kapital

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houellebecq is awesome.....not life changing but made me laugh a lot and has much commentary on current state of world etc. cant wait for English translation of Soumission.

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>>6355390

Does anyone else here know Jiddu Krishnamurti?

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>>6355390
made me an anarchist. i had a three book german version. always started a new book while coming down from tripping. i think i understood this book in all its depth.

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Right book, right time and place.
I was pretty ignorant when I read it and it made me want to read Dostoevsky, Tolstoy, Nietzsche, Hesse, Camus and Sartre. It was a great book to read at 18 or so.

>> No.6356114

>>6355736
/lit/ has disliked Camus for a while, ever since German idealism became a meme and people discovered the root of all French existentialist insights in Hegel, Heidegger, and Nietzsche.

>> No.6356145

>>6356032
>>6356055
Seconded

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this made me interested in sex and women. before i was a blissfully unaware nerdy neckbeard who only wanted to play video games and read science fiction, now im a socially anxious guy who is trying to get his life back on track after years of being swindled by consumerism.

i cant say it improved my life yet because i actually feel worse now than i used to feel, but at least its getting me towards a more fulfilling life?

>> No.6356953

>>6356055
It's so boring though. Did you not know the ins and outs of the illuminati conspiracy beforehand or? It's just hammering on Adam Wieshaupt and name dropping authors and "pssst kid there's sex and drugs in this book". Literally reads like a Pynchon fanfic, can't bring myself to read the 2nd and 3rd books in the trilogy based on the 1st.

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>> No.6356958

>>6355408
>Took me about an hour to read
How? I read well, but I'm incredibly slow.

>> No.6356964

>>6356951
get taste and stop reading murakami for start

>> No.6356965

>>6356028
>not life changing
Did you not read the op?

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6356973

Made me realize that both the right and the left have horribly fuck up ideas about society

>> No.6356981

>>6356973

*fucked up

>> No.6356991

>>6356951
Everybody loves this guy. I've only read NW and I'll give WU Bird Chronicle a chance, but this book was pretty meh. I mean, I liked the book (especially the pianist, R-something, and the whole hospital episode), but it seemed more focused on getting the reader's attention than actually saying anything.

>I like Gatsby, do you?
>Oh man, I like Gatsby
>It's like the light at the end of the water. You know, like in Gatsby

Some serious SparkNotes-tier writing here. I mentioned it to some friends who've read all of his stuff, and I don't think it went over well with them.

How's his other stuff compare?

>> No.6356996

>>6356973
Could you give a synopsis?

>> No.6357001

The Myth of Sysphus

>> No.6357008

>>6356996

Here's an overview of the english version:

http://bookstore.authorhouse.com/Products/SKU-000625441/The-Intellectual-Temptation.aspx

>> No.6357021

>>6357008
Thanks

>> No.6357104

>>6356964
yeah, working on that too. i started reading bukowski

>> No.6357121

>>6356951
Is the tittle a boner joke?

>> No.6357177

>>6356951
I'm sold.

>> No.6357218

>>6355392
You missed nothing, the book is fine but pales in comparison to other works of Hesse.
It is a shame that the book "Demian" is so little known. It is by far his best work.

>> No.6357270

>>6355749
That's the fucking point you shithead. Jesus Christ!
I didn't like the book either. But don't fucking nitpick!

>> No.6357578

>>6355442
It helps people to realize that they must create their own happiness. Good for people that are changing situations as it helps to justify oneself thru ones actions and not thru religious dogma or other meaningless traditions

>> No.6357591

>>6355712
did you not catch the part where siddhartha meets that buddha?
also you know the buddha you're referring to is only one of many, right? that's the buddha gautama specifically.

>> No.6357595

>>6357218
magister ludi a.k.a. the glass bead game is widely considered his best. i haven't read that yet though. of what i've read, narcisuss and goldmund would be his "best" if i had to say, with beneath the wheel and demian right there. all fantastic anyway.

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>> No.6357601

>>6355390
Bishop Berkeley's Three Dialogues between Hylas and Philonous

articulated and fleshed out what i had been thinking for a good while

>> No.6357620

Nietzsche's Beyond Good and Evil and Hubbard's Dianetics (plus a few sessions I took at my local CoS place). They made me see clearly how society is mostly comprised of sheep, and it taught me that one must rise above the petty slave morality of the masses.

I am now a successful man, a master who can manipulate any situation to my advantage. By becoming a nihilist who believes in nothing, I am free to succeed on my own terms and by any means necessary.

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>>6357601
also, story-time
>read Three Dialgoues
>begin Metaphysics class soon thereafter
>most prestigious professor in the department (not saying much)
>book for the class written by the prof
>still excited about idealism, search for the term in the index
>one reference
>turn to page, says something along the lines of "because idealism has no real foundation at all, we will not be discussing it"
>mfw

>> No.6357651

>>6357623
It's the veiled scientism that is disseminate through academia.

>> No.6357750

>>6357651
he was just a platonist who had no problem espousing that philosophy in his class, while snidely denigrating anything/anyone who disagreed with it. fucking tenured professors, man.

>> No.6357792

Being and Time from Heidegger with the Dreyfus commentary to start reading it.

It made me realize that all traditional philosophy was a mistake, and understand more profoundly what was going on with the contemporary world. Also it made me more critical of the interpretation of being in every text. Heidegger is such a badass, it's a shame that everybody disregard him because of his political interventions, his philosophy is actually the answer to almost all inquiries on philosophy.

It's also a shame that Sartre misunderstood him and took back "my world" as something a priori that "the world", fucking pleb

>> No.6357815

>>6357750
But Platonism is idealism

>> No.6357822

>>6357750

>I know nothing about philosophy, i just pretend to do, and I just readed Berkeley because /lit/ told me to do so during his sponsored christianity week

>> No.6357824

>>6357792
I'm sorry if it's a stupid question but does his ideas have any influence from Hegel? The only reason I'm asking this is to know if my (superficial) knowledge of Hegel could help me read 'B and T'.

>> No.6357846

>>6357824

Heidegger is trying to get beyond the idealism/materialism, subject/object, objective/subjective language, he starts his philosophy from describing being and it's surroundings.

Read the dreyfus commentary, in like 50 pages you will understand what Heidegger is trying to do

>> No.6357889

>>6357815
b8?

>> No.6358040

>>6357218
Demian sucks. Agree with OP Siddhartha is the most life changing book i've read (which is a little too much to say about any book).

Siddhartha > Steppenwolf >> Demian

Got master ludi in the to read stack.

Macroeconomics by Blanchard
Siddhartha
Le Petit Prince
Brothers Karamazov/Orthodoxy/Heretics

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The Iliad and The Odyssey

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>>6356028
AWESOME BOOK 10/10 . I really loved it!

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La nauseé , from Sartre. First existencial book I read and I instantly fell in love

>> No.6358441

>>6356964
What's wrong with Murakami?

>> No.6358535

>>6357822
I don't know why I even respond to obvious trolls, but here we go.

I think I've once seen Berkeley mentioned on here but someone who wasn't me, and I read Berkeley several years before I ever came here. And I majored in philosophy. What in my post led you to any of those incorrect assumptions?

>> No.6358540

>>6357822
Oh also, not a christian. You literally got every single thing wrong lul

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>>6355712

>> No.6358813

Portrait of the artist as a young man more recently.
The Stranger in freshman year
Senior year, murakami novels. I read 1Q84, Wind-up Bird Chronicles, Wild Sheep Chase, Dance Dance Dance, and Colorless one after each other.
>>6356951
This kind of sums up how I felt, although I'm more of just a 19 year old quiet white dude.

>> No.6358889

>>6355701
Dan that was the most entertaining thread on /lit/

>> No.6358891

>>6357822
>readed
great show

>> No.6358972

>>6356032
Eh he was my introduction to philosophy. Wish I hadn't of bothered really

>> No.6359033

>>6356055
The Conquest of Bread did a similar thing for me. It really affirmed my belief that Capitalism and the state have to be destroyed. I'm not an Anarchist anymore, but I'm still a Communist and still love Kropotkin.>>6356941

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This book was pivotal in my path away from hard atheism and materialism

>> No.6359063

>>6355408
How did CPR change your life?

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This was great as a kid. It was just an illustration book that showed a city through time a hunter-gather society to the modern day.

Its also where I first learned about communism

>> No.6359142

>>6356955

Yes, my good man. Me too.

Has /lit/ got any book suggestions for me that is similar to this book?

>> No.6359241

>>6359049
Oh I was looking for books on idolatry, thanks anon.

>> No.6359248

>>6359142
Have you read the other existential classics or Dostoyevskys other stuff?

>> No.6359257

>>6359063

Got me into modern philosophy

>> No.6359265

>>6359248

I've read The Idiot but nothing else.

No, I meant the writing style that is similar to Notes from the Underground where it feels like someone is directly talking to you. Where its not just a story but somewhat like a philosophical guide book, if you know what I mean. Reading that book 5 years ago made me feel as if somebody truly understood what I felt like at that time.

>> No.6359272

>>6357177
hope youre younger than i was when i figured it out

>> No.6359276

>>6359082
so is this like sarum but for kids?

>> No.6359280

STIRNER
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>> No.6360376

>>6359265
Nausea, The Fall, The Stranger

>> No.6360540

i feel like murakami's male protagonists were just a little bit better than me and by reading his novels strove to better myself. even got into running due to reading his memoir. i don't even like his stuff that much, but i respect him as a person.

but yeah, anyway, for a single book i'll go with feet of clay by anthony storr

>> No.6360576

>>6355390
I've always gotten the impression this is Camus-tier pop philosophy that is perpetuated by angsty teenagers for decades to come. Can someone confirm so I don't have to read it?

>> No.6360606
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6360606

The ultimate Redpill.

inb4 people who never read it will claim to know absolutely everthing about it just because they watched a shitty HBO documentary

>> No.6360609

>>6360606
get fucked kid

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>>6360606
Oh, it's you again. Do something productive and read the Bhagavad-Gita As It Is.

>> No.6360727

>>6360614
Hare Hare! Hare Krishna! Krishna Krishna! Hare Hare!

No thanks.

I rather have the rationalist ,clear headed approach of Dianetics

>> No.6360738

>>6360727
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishan Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare

Yea yea, they're all cults, who cares.

You think you will get a clear head with Dianetics? I'm sorry, but the only thing Dianetics/Scientology is good for is creating patients for real psychologists.

>> No.6360748

>>6360606
What's it about? Why is it good? Go into detail, please.

>> No.6360772

>>6360748
This is a book on mental health. It's a study book. I went to a Church of Scient and got the "Extension Course" ($35). I read a chapter and answer questions. It's an incredible tool on life's challenges, gives incredible understanding on "mental health", and the questions I answer are directed at helping ME improve my life. Yes, some chapters are difficult, and I just go back and reread and then I get it. It's not something to whip thru on a weekend, so enough of the 1-star drama. You're not going to read Einsteins Universe and not say the same. The pleasure and satisfaction of the book is how I feel after I understand a concept and see that I've been doing something not-optimum for decades, and I can change behavior to better myself and those around me. Yes, healthy mental health can be attained.
Hubbard saw the decline of morals and ethics and in our culture in the 1950's.
Yes, over 60 years ago he pretty much said, Our current civilization is going downhill, and fast.
And if you don't have any concept on this, then this isn't the book for you. I have so many of my clients and friends on psychiatric drugs, and they are told by their counselors that drugs are their only option. That there is no "cure". I've learned from this book never to put a label on anyone, and putting anyone on drugs, especially children, is pure criminal.
Big Pharma is creating a drugged planet, one patient at a time. As a health care provider, i'm kicking and screaming over this, as I see good lives ruined. Patients living day and night in mental anguish, and taking drug after drug.
Hubbard saw this, and Scientology is well aware of this as a ruin to our entire planet, and they work hard to fight this.
If you're interested in your own mental health, start here. I did. Good luck!

>> No.6360784

>>6360772
Do you believe in Xenu

>> No.6360796

>>6360784
He won't comment on that, Scientologists are told that if they learn about those higher level teachings before they are ready, they might die from pneumonia or other serious illness. (I'm not even joking.)

If you are interested in Dianetics, read it. That should be enough to keep people away from Scientology and all the pseudo-science involved.

>>6360772
I'm sorry if this comes off as offensive but Scientology is dangerous and they just want all your money.

>> No.6361331

>>6360606
Ruggles redpilled me on Scientology when he posted on /lit/ back in the day.

>> No.6361339

>>6355712
That's a beautiful woman

>> No.6361360

>>6356958

once I'm at the uni library and can just plow on without distraction, I can read like 100+ pgs an hour

look up techniques about speed reading online and practice. You don't have to go at Harold Bloom pace to make progress, just try to hit 600 wpm or above and you're golden

>> No.6361368

>>6361331
You cant be "redpilled on Scientology" because Scientology is the red pill that trumps all other red pills. You cant redpill the redpill.

>> No.6361381

>>6361368
Money = God seems like a sufficiently ultimate redpill.

>> No.6361392

>>6361381
Nope. What about spiritual liberty and eternity?

>> No.6361419

None have, at most I have sympathized deeply, but never changed. Also god bless the scientology troll, this is some of the best shit I've seen in months.

>> No.6362241

>>6359033
Cease to exist.

>> No.6362876

>>6356032
Yeah, I really liked that one

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It's corny, I know. It was years ago (Middle School) when I read it, though.

>> No.6362919

>>6356028
>>6358402

where to start with Houellebecq?

>> No.6362924

>>6362919
Well-beck is not a real author, he is a meme.
He's the french equivalent of Dan Green. He is so memeish he's invited to TV cook shows here and things like that.

>> No.6362935

>>6362924
is this a ruse or is Houellebecq the ruse? I'm taking French this summer for the language requirement of my grad program and wanted some things to read besides Foucault/Derrida/etc that aren't Camus/Flaubert

>> No.6362945

>>6355392
Its probably not so profound if you are familiar with some of the concepts

>> No.6363084

>>6355424
I really don't get what point you're trying to make

>> No.6363094

A day in the life of Ivan denisovich

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>>6356028
>>6362919

1. Possibility of an Island.
2. Platform
3. The Map and the Territory
4. Elementary Particles

Elementary Particles got all the praise/buzz/awards/etc, but (bringing it back to topic) Possibility of an Island changed my life.

Also pic related (book that changed my life), which is interesting because Will Self and Houellebecq hate each other.

>> No.6363184

>>6356973
Any idea where I can get an english translation of this

>> No.6363345

Gatsby.
It was a nice slap in the face that no one cares about your ideals, and that the only thing that matters in the world is commitment and profit.

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4chan posters changed my life more than books have

God bless you guys

>> No.6363471

>>6363382
stop chip-posting goddmanit

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>>6363471
can't take the chips get off the dip. keesh

>> No.6363600

>>6363345
>the only thing that matters in the world to assholes is commitment and profit.
Fixed that for you. Gatsby isn't a guide on how to live life, it's showing that the "elite" are even more sleazy than the rest of us.

>> No.6363827

>>6355390
The baghavad gita really changed my outlook on life more than any other religious text.

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Reading 500 pages of Rousseau had an significant impact, albeit mostly bad.

made me write full of emotion and 0 logic&disdain science

>> No.6364860

>>6363911
indeed

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>>6355390

>> No.6364901

>>6363911
I really enjoyed Rousseau's Social Contract. Just because of his romanticism, which is a detracting factor considering how overboard he goes on it, he is smart and makes valid points in his models of government and social interactions.

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For the better I might add.

>> No.6364974

>>6358327
lmao they're gonna give him the old ray charles

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>>6355390
<-

>> No.6365896

>>6355404
No it isn't. It is about a guy thinking he has but failing.

>> No.6365902

>>6355429
>muh 'the stranger: Chronicles of Aspergers'

the book is trash

>> No.6365909

>>6355712
It also misrepresents Buddhist notions of enlightenment and the path. It is a really poor book.

>> No.6365917

>>6356032
>Jiddu Krishnamurti

He is a total hack, shit meditator, but good at making outrageous strawmen. He knew just enough about various traditions to make a total fool of himself in front of people that knew much less.

terribly overrated /10

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I dont know why but this song comes to my head when I think of the Bible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkysjcs5vFU

>> No.6365927

>>6357596
Hegel is so fucking overrated

>> No.6365939

>>6365927
Yeah and?

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I read Walden when I was in 8th grade or so. People focus too much on his living-in-a-cabin experiment. The main thing I got from Thoreau was the importance of changing your perception, mentally and emotionally, and finding beauty in everyday things and not engrossing yourself too much in books and other forms of escapism (buying lots of shit you don't need, going on fancy vacations, etc.) The application of that aspect of his philosophy is an antidote to boredom. It helps you live in the present.

"It is something to be able to paint a particular picture, or to carve a statue, and so to make a few objects beautiful; but it is far more glorious to carve and paint the very atmosphere and medium through which we look. To affect the quality of the day--that is the highest of arts."