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/lit/, I am looking for a recommendation.

My brother is a huge pretentious ass, but I love him because we are related. I want to get him a book of poetry for his birthday; he loves Walt Whitman and Alan Ginsburg and has read quite a lot of both of them.

I am not especially fond of either of these poets. However, I know some of you are. Who is similar to Walt Whitman / Alan Ginsburg, and will please my brother's taste for *~deep and insightful poetry~* without making him more pretentious?

>> No.635315

Charles Bukowski?

>> No.635319

Walt Whitman is about as far from pretentious as possible. Shows how much you know about poetry. He talks about simple things, man and woman, fellowship, and writes without meter or rhyme...

How are we supposed to recommend something that isn't "pretentious" when your definition of what is pretentious is so ridiculous?

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635322

Walt Whitman -> Alan Ginsberg is a pretty broad range. What is your brother interested in? Nature? Philosophizing? Themes of repression?

>> No.635331

>>635292
>my bruther is protentius because he reads n thinks

>> No.635332

>>635315

this.

>> No.635333

Poetry is gay, if your brother thinks it makes him cool by reading it punch him in his fucking face

>> No.635345

>>635322
His brother is obviously interested in homosexuality


Also free verse is stupid, it's like retarded prose

>> No.635349

Congratulations OP, you have discovered that this is 4chan. This thread is now 100 percent trolls. Good luck finding an answer somewhere else.

>> No.635360

>>635333
lol'd because both Whitman and Ginsberg are both the faggots.

If the brother is looking for insightful fag poets, then go Hart Crane.

>> No.635368

Get him a chicken soup for the soul book. The gauge for how much he likes you is how hard he suppresses the immediate rage and disappointment.

>> No.635371

>>635322

He's into comparative religion (especially Buddhism and Judaism) and to a lesser extent philosophy. He's a bit of a dilettante though- doesn't like people proving him wrong or throwing anything back at him.

>> No.635376

>>635368


I love my brother, why would I do that? :(

>> No.635382

Sorry you can't appreciate Whitman dude.. he rules

>> No.635384

>>635371
Sounds like a fucking faggot. Get him a book titled "How to not be a pretentious asshole faggot and how to read real stuff not gay poetry"

>> No.635392

if he like Ginsburg he'll probably like Kerouac

>> No.635398

>>635392

I have forgotten to mention that Kerouac is his *hero*.

>> No.635400

>>635333
>>635345
>>635384
Either trolls or serious morons.

>> No.635405

Has he tried Thoreau and Emerson?

>> No.635413

He'll probably like Bukowski, although Bukowski can be hit or miss. Ginsberg was too so your brother shouldn't mind.

>> No.635414

>>635405

Asking...

Thoreau is "a bit of a whiny bitch", Emerson is "better".

>> No.635415

>>635400
Neither I just fucking hate poetry

>> No.635419

>>635414
HOw about Emily Dickinson

>> No.635427

>>635414

Yeah, he's a pretentious douche.

>> No.635435

well...he might not like foreigners...i'm guessing...my first suggestion would be gabriel garcia lorca which would soften him up a bit...maybe kerouac?

>> No.635432

>>635419

Likes Dickinson.

>> No.635436

>>635432
Does he like, Keats, Blake, Wordsworth, Coleridge, Shelley, Byron

>> No.635448

>>635436

I doubt it. He's not very into the romantics.

>> No.635450

>>635415
You're not a moron because you hate poetry, you're a moron because you think everyone that does is a "faggot".

>> No.635454

>>635450
doesn't ^

>> No.635457

>>635448
How about fucking SHakespeare

>> No.635462

I recommend Ben Lerner

>> No.635464

>>635457
>>635448

Correction: He apparently loves Coleridge and oh wait he is lecturing me about romantics and what they wrote

>> No.635465

The Romantics were lousy with all their damn heroic couplets. They make me ill.

>> No.635470

>>635464

He loves Coleridge but not Wordsworth? Odd.

Does he like....Milton?

>> No.635471

Ask him if he likes Tao Lin!!!

>> No.635477

Milton is "pretty good", has never read Tao Lin.

>> No.635480

>>635450
You have to be a faggot to like poetry

>> No.635481

A friend of mine recommended "The Prophet" by Khalil Gibran. Not poetry, but looks good- anyone read it / heard of it?

>> No.635482

Your brother sounds really boring

>> No.635487

>>635480
Hardly the case, but it seems like a case of "preferred but not required" if you are really good at it.

>> No.635495

>>635480
This is precisely why you're a moron.

>> No.635520

>>635481
YOU! i have heard of it, i have it, some good some is blah, but you know it is coming from a religious type of fellow but the good outweighs the bad

>> No.635538

>>635495
No, sir, you are the moron for believing that there are people who exist that appreciate and adore poetry and at the same time are not huge, flaming, dicksucking homosexuals.

>> No.635609

>>635482

Seconded.

Give him some Beat-fuckarse shit, doesn't fucking matter.