stranger in a strange land

[Anonymous No.6344265]

well that was well that was strange.

Did you like this book?

I went into it expecting a fairly straight forward fiction and was surprised by the book, there was obviously that huge shift around halfway from a traditional fiction to that more pensive/reflective religious theme.

I read the Uncut version. Is the differences between the 2 (cut and uncut) quite noticeable?

[Anonymous No.6344274]

>>6344265
bump

[Anonymous No.6344333]

why did he shoot the arab

[Anonymous No.6344366]

>>6344333
the arab was being adulterous with his woman

[Anonymous No.6345028]

>>6344265
pretty euphoric, rather fun, although that Jubal guy a.k.a author's self-insert and vehicle for his philosophy got annoying pretty quickly.

[Anonymous No.6345046]

>>6345028
It's much worse if you've read other Heinlein books. SiASL made it harder for me to enjoy Time Enough for Love because it felt like Jubal and Lazarus Long were the same character--because they were (Heinlein).

[Anonymous No.6345416]

>Tfw virgin
>tfw I dont feel I comprehend the book fully

[Anonymous No.6345490]

>>6345046
I thought Lazarus Long was far more obnoxious than Jubal because he's not only a self-insert but a blatant Mary Sue--for instance, there's a lengthy foreword about how a certain character thinks he's a jackass and a scoundrel, but in the actual book people (including the character speaking in the foreword) literally could not stop sucking his dick nonstop for being so awesome.

He did this his entire career. His first novel (justifiably unpublished) was For Us, The Living. The main character is a supercompetent engineer/Navy pilot who travels to the future, where he sort of cluelessly has this super hot exotic dancing lady all over his dick (though he has to learn to be OK with ~poly~). He gains some fame by being such an expert at flying 20th-century aircraft, and everyone wants to know what the Naval Academy was like. He then designs a space rocket he uses to fly to the moon.

Heinlein's only notable achievement at that point had been graduating from the Naval Academy. Otherwise, he had been medically discharged after spending a few years as a signal officer on a carrier, had a brief failed marriage, and unsuccessfully dabbled in Socialist politics in California, working a few odd jobs to support himself along the way. The projection of an idealized author self-image is pretty blatant and clearly a template for his later works.

[Anonymous No.6345701]

>>6344265
I picked up the uncut version and had to put it down because it was going nowhere, just chapter after chapter of circlejerking and "lel how do we get the martian out of the hospital XD"

Does it get better?

[Anonymous No.6345929]

>>6345701
Totally. I found the early bits boring - for the most part. The whole journalism / political thing is really not something I'm interested in, in general, but the slow learning of the Martian (Michael? I forget) is interesting and it gains more and more momentum until that 'obvious' shift the OP is referring to. Once that got going, I was enthralled.

I still talk about the book sometimes, and I read it probably 4 years ago or something. Actually, I wrote out a plot for a novel based around a Lebanese Christian in Istanbul who becomes a sort of Caliph, founding a new Abrahamic religion with New Age influences. He basically goes from immaturity (think of that boorish Teenaged love of Pink Floyd and Kerouac) to maturation (after some trials and tribulations. Plot's at home so I can't really post details here) and eventually it skyrockets into SiaSL-tier spiritualism.

I based it off a real friend, his fantasies and my ideals.