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>> No.6334664

dunno why they tend to read more
dunno why they tend to read shit

>> No.6334667

No they aren't

>> No.6334688
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>>6334649

Lazy bait, but I fully expect to see 200+ posts ITT from people who know that it's a bait thread but are too bored to care.

>> No.6334704

>>6334649
They need to shove paper up their cunts, so have an organic affinity with the written word. Digitisation is reversing this. Unless they shove phones up their slots.

>>6334688
I expect wild Franco pussy.

>> No.6334707

boys are dumb. next?

>> No.6334709

Because they hog all the lesbians

>> No.6334716
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6334716

this is what women read about

>> No.6334717

>>6334664
Lots of shit in the market.
Not going to get better till... Well, you know. Don't you?

>> No.6334720
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Going to presume that you're referring to middle class, college aged and older women.

Men generally work, while women generally socialize. Reading (especially relatable dialogue) is social masturbation, so it's really no surprise that women are going to pick up their shit romance novels and YA novels and maybe sprinkle in a classic or two for appearance's sake.

>> No.6334722

>Twilight
>Hunger Games
>Divergent

why do women write YA series where the protagonis is torn between cute gary stu boys

>> No.6334725

>>6334716
>wearing cloths in your bath room's tub

>> No.6334738

>>6334722
>gary stu

>> No.6334793

>>6334720
>Going to presume that you're referring to middle class
Jesus fuck, where did you learn about class, the bum fuck billy bob commemorative christ school of instrumentalism (2 year, unregistered)?

>> No.6334813

>>6334793
My Philosophy 101 teacher told me about it

>> No.6334817

>>6334813
Set some time aside to read some Marx.

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>>6334817
I did

I don't get it

>> No.6334840

>>6334831
Cultural class is created by people's relationship to their subsistence as social production. In capitalism this is a relationship to the mode of production. The mode of production in capitalism is a relationship between two classes: the bourgeoisie who own ("control") production, and the proletariat who are forced to offer their labour power (potential to work) to survive. Capitalists and workers.

There is no "middle" class in capitalism that has been adequately located (poulantzas et al can fuck right off).

>> No.6334857

>>6334840
I legitimately can't tell if you're being serious right now.

>> No.6334875

Do people really think this? Reading a book by John Green or reading muthafuggin fiction doesn't really count. Men read more non-fiction, the shit that matters

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>>6334720
>Reading (especially relatable dialogue) is social masturbation, so it's really no surprise that women are going to pick up their shit romance novels and YA novels and maybe sprinkle in a classic or two for appearance's sake.

You are why we can't have nice things.

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>>6334882
ok dad

>> No.6334896

>>6334857
Reading might not be a hobby for you then.

>> No.6334908

>>6334649
oh hey, it's my girlfriend

>> No.6334916

because men believe in the dumb ideology that reading is not manly

>> No.6334929

Women like to listen to what men have to say.

Modern society has tried to remove patriarchs from society, so women are craving authority. In a sense a book is always a 'father figure'
a figure of authority.

We say "that was a stupid book" but never "books are stupid" in all sincerity, despite in reality most books truly being stupid.

Books are an authority figure and distinctly masculine in that capacity.
Even books by female authors have this capacity.
This is evidence by the common figuration of a good author being "larger than life" you instinctively imagine someone important to you are taller/bigger.

>> No.6334945

>>6334882
>>6334793
Ok I get that there's the whole theoretical/philosophical explanation for classes and the like, but did you guys really not understand that his commentary was about what is perceived as 'middle class'?

>> No.6334961

>>6334945
Did you really not realise that you shat yourself in public and are making excuses for the smell by wiping your shit over other people's faces?

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>>6334961
If this is some sort of postmodern troll bullshit then congratulations, you got me.

>> No.6334975

>>6334720
Do you call all activities that you don't personally see a point in masturbation?

>> No.6334985

>>6334929

Nigga wat

>> No.6335000
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>>6334975
I might not have been clear in my meaning of masturbation. What I was trying to express was that women desire social contact. It fulfills them. When a woman reads dialogue based literature (often because they're not preoccupied with their friends), they are simulating human contact and satisfying themselves with the mental image of social interaction, and not the real thing. In the same way, masturbation is an imitation of sex, and people who don't have immediate access to sex will masturbate.

I was not saying that reading is as useful as masturbation. Reading or imagining people speaking to each other when there is no other merit, is.

>> No.6335022

Men are too busy competing with each other over who has the biggest dick to care about important stuff. Men have their pride way too easily wounded to risk being seen as a fag who reads instead of playing football.

Women are the future of civilization. I know this thread is bait but I'm dead serious. Feminists are coming for men with a hatred that was left fermenting in the collective mind of women for thousands of years, and men know they're right and they deserve their demise.

>> No.6335028

Women read more but what they read is mostly utter shit.

>> No.6335034

>>6335028
this

They often don't read to read, they read for what it does for their appearance

>> No.6335036

>>6335028
You're late. We've covered this >>6334664

I think that about wraps it up.

>> No.6335047

>>6334840
>implying the perceived existence of such a thing as a middle class does not justify the other anon's post

Come on, if it's believed to exist you necessarily have to take it into account. A middle class is believed to exist and it actually defines a set of characteristics possessed by people therefore you cannot scowl from the top of your ivory tower and say "fucking plebs" without being a huge moron asshole.

>> No.6335051

>>6335022
>and men know they're right and they deserve their demise.
I know this is bait, but there are people that actually believe this shit.

>> No.6335065

>>6335000
Women, just like men, can have any personality type combination ranging from recluse to socialite, leader to follower, and so on. I'm sure you're going to call me a moron and insist I don't know basic biology or psychology, or tell me to go to Tumblr, but what you're saying is bullshit. Besides, if you enjoy reading, that's all there is to it. It's not pointless or useless at all whether you do it to talk to friends, for personal pleasure, to learn more, or whatever. What you're saying is sexist nonsense, no better than the people that say women only read shit and aren't able to comprehend philosophy. Nobody wants to acknowledge it, but most male readers read YA and genre fiction, too, except theirs is Clive Cussler and action pulp. This isn't a sex or gender issue, it's just your pseudo-intellectual masturbation.

>> No.6335066

>>6335047
It doesn't. Unicorns are believed to exist, and have no influence what so ever except on virgin boys pure of heart.

>> No.6335069

>>6335000
I agree. Women are better at communicating and expressing emotions and information through dialogue and language. Why is it that gossip and drama seem to be aimed at women more often than men?

>> No.6335074

>>6334896
dis autism

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>>6335000

>I'm an expert on women

wow tell me more

>> No.6335097

>>6335047
>Going to presume that you're referring to middle class, college aged and older women.

This isn't about the world of bourgeois ideology, this is about some dumb fuck's reductionist attitude to the social reception of text.

>> No.6335102

>>6335069
men gossip just as much women. it's a myth that women are gossips.

>> No.6335103

>>6335065
>Women, just like men, can have any personality type combination ranging from recluse to socialite, leader to follower
>look, I found a monkey that can juggle! So clearly most monkeys can juggle, right?
Yes, do go back to tumblr.

>> No.6335104

>>6334649
she is asking for it

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>>6335065
>Women, just like men, can have any personality type combination ranging from recluse to socialite, leader to follower, and so on.
Certainly. I'm pointing out what I see as a trend, nothing more.
>What you're saying is sexist nonsense, no better than the people that say women only read shit and aren't able to comprehend philosophy.
It's hardly sexist. Women and men are different from each other; they pursue their happiness in different ways. I just don't like the books ladies tend to read.
>Nobody wants to acknowledge it, but most male readers read YA and genre fiction, too, except theirs is Clive Cussler and action pulp.
Which is also deplorable, but when you look at the people who are self described readers or pseudo philosophers, then you see a disturbing trend where everyone reads shit, but women read exponentially more of it.
>This isn't a sex or gender issue, it's just your pseudo-intellectual masturbation.
Everybody that posts here is ego-masturbating. It's a fucking anime imageboard with a little section carved out for trolls that read.

>> No.6335408

>>6335028
>They often don't read to read, they read for what it does for their appearance
>>6335028
>Women read more but what they read is mostly utter shit.
>>6334664
>dunno why they tend to read shit
these.
I've never met a woman in my life who was acutally obsessed with reading, like I am. definitely met guys who are though. it's the typical dichotomy where women partake in the hobby they just aren't biologically predisposed to carrying the passion to the extreme, they need ample time to socialize, waste on social media, do their makeup and hair etc.

>> No.6336178

/lit/, what's the best book you've seen a female friend of yours enjoy?

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>>6334649
>Animal Farm

>> No.6336211

>>6334720
I think it's safe to say it isn't the 18th century anymore.

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>>6336178
>a female friend
no one here is seriously this beta, I hope

>> No.6336220

>>6336215
I bet you watch Family Guy.

>> No.6336224

>>6336220
No family guy is shit. I nostalgia bomb all the time though when I see .gifs online, but only the ones from episodes BEFORE the hiatus. I prefer Archer now as far as cartoons go. Only time I pop a stiffy from drawings lmao.

>> No.6336226

>>6334649
Yeesh, that NPR article is horrendous. How did that writer make it on staff?

>> No.6336231

>>6336226
jewish nepotism, most likely, or ivy league legacy admissions. those are the two leading causes of decadence among the ruling elite.

>> No.6336233

>>6336231

>muh joos

protip: wasps are far more influential in American society especially the LDS

>> No.6336234

>>6336231
No, technology is the leading cause of decadence.

>> No.6336246

>>6334649
my mom reads a book every day

she doesn't work though

>> No.6336247

>>6336178
She likes pleb Catholic stuff (which is good despite being pleb). So Lewis, Chesterton, writings of saints and such.

>> No.6336260

>>6334929
why hello there mr. lacan

>> No.6336508

>>6334688

Dude, you should like have /x/ measure your divination levels...

>>6334649
Don't wanna be Tumlring, but boys will be boys and girls will be girls. Somehow a modern boy's lifestyle still involves more physical activity and time spent outdoors while a girl's doesn't.

And there's peer pressure- a boy reading a book is, as we'll all agree, a faggot; while nobody's gonna see anything wrong with a girl doing it. Simple?

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>>6334929
>>6334882

Seriously, your capacity to blame natural or incidental social correlations on negative social constructs is equitable with Tumblr.

>> No.6336528

>>6336516
how do you know how tumblr acts?

>> No.6336532

>>6336528
>how do you know how tumblr acts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3pLDrZQTf8

>> No.6336536

>>6336532
which memes?

>> No.6336539

>>6336536

Pretty much Tumblr as a whole

>> No.6336541

>>6336539
I thought tumblr was a website

>> No.6336559

ITT: "I'm totally not a sexist, I'm just pointing out that men and women are different and that women general read shit."

>> No.6336571

>>6336559
If men and women are different and your ideal human is a man then women are of course inferior humans

>> No.6336577

>>6336571
man /lit/ can be dumb sometimes

wait why am I saying sometimes, /lit/ is dumb all the time, just look at the thread jesus

>> No.6336579

>>6334649

Yeah sure. Except the ratio of great authors is 10:1 in favor of MALES.

The real question is how come males are better than women in things that women should really be better than men (cooking, literature etc.)

>> No.6336581

>>6336577
but /lit/ is primarily male

>> No.6336582

>>6336571
Not that anon, but if you seriously have ideals of what a human should be like that aren't complete abstractions (honesty, diligence, etc.) and lead you to a perspective of men being greater than women, you need to go outside more.

>> No.6336592

>>6336582
I'm not saying it's right only that the logic follows

>> No.6336599

>>6336579
>implying women haven't historically been forced into those roles
The only reason we have comparatively few great female authors is because they're behind on the draw.

>> No.6336601

>>6336581
case in point

>> No.6336602

>>6336592
your logic is good, your assumptions are crap

>> No.6336607

>>6336602
what assumptions?

I only made the one post and didn't even bother reading the thread

>> No.6336612

>>6336599

>muh patriarchy

but the patriarchy made women cook more so they should be better than men, no? Then why are the best chefs MALES?!

>> No.6336615

>>6336601
so if man /lit/ is only dumb sometimes

but /lit/ is dumb all the time

then woman /lit/ is so dumb they eclipse man /lit/ which isn't dumb most of the time?

>> No.6336631

>>6336607
the most obvious one would be that there is such a thing as an ideal person

>> No.6336636

>>6336631
I absolutely have an ideal human in my head

>> No.6336642

>>6336636
>I absolutely have an ideal human in my head

Fgt, keep your fantasy stuff on LGBT

>> No.6336647

>>6336642
it's not gay if it's yourself

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>>6336647
>t's not gay if it's yourself

>> No.6336661

>>6336655
there is nothing gay about enjoying your own genitals

>> No.6336671

>>6336661
>there is nothing gay about enjoying your own genitals

Tru. I was wrong. you're alright, brah

>> No.6337122

Women read more books because they have more liesure time. While "hubby" is slaving away to feed his brat children and even bigger brat of a wife, she lays nice a cozy in a cocoon of NEETism and hedonism, occasionally lifting a finger to hoover up or something trivial. That being said, women still only find the time to read trash, only (white) men read books that really require mental work and challenge their beliefs.

>> No.6337338

>>6334649
>when it comes to literature

They aren't. They read a lot more fiction and shit-tier trash. Men tend to read more historical books or historical fiction or actual classics than women.

>inb4 MUH FACTS

I don't have any except for my own empirical experience. All of my guy friends and family members read classics or historical books (if they read at all). All of my women friends and family members read YA trash or the latest Nicholas Sparks/Nora Roberts/insert other Romance shit.

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>>6334649
>npr
>huffingtonpost
>theguardian

>> No.6337362

>>6334716

more like this pls