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Why should I believe in dialectical matieralism?
I've seen decent explanations, and applications to the world, but I haven't seen that many arguments as to why I should believe in it over other things.

Besides, dialectics seems to suit a more idealistic mindset to me instinctively, so hit me with your best marxists

>> No.6317343

Well, natural selection is an example of dialectics in action, as it were. Engels makes the argument (in Socialism: Utopian and Scientific) that nature has already demonstrated the primacy of dialectics. The materialist conception of humanity really isn't so far removed from this illustration at all.

>> No.6317354

>>6317276
You shouldn't. Nature isn't an object of the mind. In contrast, thought, culture and all human relations are formed by the engagement of the material relations between people (their subsistence) and the mind, thus historical materialism as the "science"* of human conduct.

* rigorous test based conducts leading to claims regarding knowledge.

>> No.6317356

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>> No.6317362

>>6317276
Also, you mentioned idealism.
the new German Dialectics is coming right out of Hegel, who was an idealist. Dialectics is very much concerned with the opposition of idealism and materialism. The theory does not anwer question, rather, it provides insight into causes and interactions.

>> No.6317420

>>6317356
man the topic-policing on this board is atrocious. philosophy is a form of literature, and besides, there's no generally /intellectual/ board on 4chan.

>> No.6317429

>>6317420
He just feels guilty for never having read Marxist lit

>> No.6318296

>>6317276
Dialectical Materialism isn't a set of beliefs, it is, kf anything, a form of critique. Also, it is amisnomer imo, since a) marx never used that term and b) it seems to suggest a dialectical spin on an established materialist view, when marxism in fact is a materialist spin on hegelian dialectics, i.e. emphasizing the object over the subject.