Red Mars

[Anonymous No.6279025]

Does anyone care to open up an exchange regarding this trilogy? I just got done reading the first and thought it was real peachy keen. gonna finish the rest of the series in some months.

brb gonna go program some earth movers

[Anonymous No.6279041]

>>6279025
Arthur C damning with faint praise there...

[Anonymous No.6279724]

>>6279025
I'm about 100 pages away from finishing Blue Mars. All told I've enjoyed the series but much like the surface of Mars it is dry as fuck. Interminable descriptions of regolith and water tables, and areology etc. They're well written and I feel like I've learned quite a bit about Mars itself but they can be a little much at times.

I really like those cover illustrations too.

[Anonymous No.6279753]

Should give the rest of his work a go too

[Anonymous No.6279778]

>>6279753
Can you recommend any in particular? 'The Years of Rice and Salt' sounds pretty interesting.

[Anonymous No.6279782]

>>6279724
i think those hardbacks are so juicy and the coverart.
i trust you red green and red then that's a considerable amount of reading time.
he works from a pretty dense word library/data base- exhausting to visualize and it seems like he was talking about a lots of cliff variations.
yes. cliffs.

[Anonymous No.6279797]

>>6279782
You better get used to the word 'escarpment'. Have you noticed a change in style with the changing perspectives? I never noticed it until I got to 'Blue', and I'm not convinced it's actually there.

[Anonymous No.6279822]

>>6279797
i only finished red mars today- the wording gets more science dense towards blue mars though, somebody did a word crunch on it.
omg i didnt know was escarpemtn was until now, it's another of 800 names for cliff.
kim stanley actually wrote about this at the very start saying the arabs have a million words for sand...

THEEEANK YEEEWW KIMMM

[Anonymous No.6280008]

I wonder at what point KSR realised he was either going to have to come up with new characters, or ass pull the longevity treatment and just keep everyone around for a couple hundred years.

[Anonymous No.6280022]

>>6280008
probably 300 pages in he knew something was up

[Anonymous No.6280533]

any recommendations for someone who likes KSR, Ted Chiang, and stuff like SMAC?

[Anonymous No.6281146]

>>6280533
well hey that's what i wanna know

[Anonymous No.6281176]

http://io9.com/kim-stanley-robinson-says-colonizing-mars-wont-be-as-ea-1691315529

[Anonymous No.6281181]

>>6281176
well no shit.
the only complain i would level on KSR and other sci fi writers is to add another 200 years to their optimistic timeline.
btw ive looked into rad protection we wont see a mars landing in our life time

[Anonymous No.6281183]

>>6279025
Fuck the Reds, what a bunch of terrorist fucknuts.

[Anonymous No.6281195]

>>6281146
>>6280533
mmh
Greg Egan
Samuel Delany
Hannu Rajaniemi

[Anonymous No.6281363]

>>6281183
i dont even like red on my shoes
>>6281195
ty will database

[Anonymous No.6281371]

Any good KSR stories outside of the Mars series, not about global warming?

[Anonymous No.6281383]

>>6281371
NO if you made it through 2000 pages of mars it's time to read history or something else.
the world is a big place im just saying

[Anonymous No.6281769]

I read red then blue before noticing. Is green worth?

[Anonymous No.6281868]

>>6281769
I don't see how you could read Blue and appreciate it as well as if you'd read Green. So much is set up, characters introduced, problems raised, problems solved, major character plot developments etc. I would fully recommend reading Green Mars.
I can understand the confusion though, you'd think a planet ould need to be blue before it could be green.

[Anonymous No.6281907]

>>6281868
i thought about that before how come it's green before blue but i guess it's blue. maybe if it's a natural cycle the planet goes blue first but i think KSR wants to reign it right back to terraforming and fitting into a trilogy

[Anonymous No.6282049]

>>6281868
>you'd think a planet ould need to be blue before it could be green.
That's exactly how that came to happen

>but i think KSR wants to reign it right back to terraforming and fitting into a trilogy
I assumed that it's rather blue as in, you know, opposed to red. As in capitalism.

[Anonymous No.6282056]

>>6281868
>you'd think a planet ould need to be blue before it could be green.
That's exactly how that came to happen

>>6281907
>but i think KSR wants to reign it right back to terraforming and fitting into a trilogy
I assumed that it's rather blue as in, you know, opposed to red. As in capitalism.

[Anonymous No.6282242]

>>6282056
Yeah, the Red, Green and Blue fits both the physical state of Mars through the books and the political divisions on it.

[Anonymous No.6283319]

Here's a pretty cool blogpost about how the science of Red Mars has held up

http://scienceinmyfiction.com/2011/04/04/the-science-of-red-mars/

[Anonymous No.6283577]

>>6282056
>>6282242
op here, never thought of the colors relating to political stuff, that's interesting..
my understanding is he's denoted geographic isolation as a device for speciation. which not only is true in nature but in the affects of artificial terraforming too
>>6283319
that is good shit. i just took a look at the guy and listened to him speak he's legit. the reviews are mixed but imo KSR is into his work and that shows and trumps all

i understand that there are indoor and outdoor rovers too- it always confused me if they had to get into their walkers with the outdoor rovers or. i guess they were suited all the time outside the domes and only wore helmets when physically going outside?

[Anonymous No.6283600]

>>6279778
It is, all his work is

[Anonymous No.6283607]

>>6279797
only thing I noticed in a change between books is that the Merika/Soviet dynamic thats in the background of the first book is gone in the second a and third, I guess cause it was written in 90-92 and the others later