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Who are your favorite painters?

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>>6267224
The Dix.

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Oskar Kokoschka

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Giacomo Balla

>> No.6267258

can someone post that picture of the woman on a crazed, black horse?

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>> No.6267285

>>6267272
holy shit

>> No.6267288

>>6267285
holy shit good or holy shit pleb?

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Bruegel, of course

>> No.6267290

Rene Magritte
Edward Hopper
Vilmelm Hammershoi

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>> No.6267300

>>6267288
holy shit good

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>Who are your favorite painters?
Gerome, Grimshaw, Vernet, Bosch, Zurbaran, Renoir

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>> No.6267462

>>6267257
That's pretty meme-ish

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Titian, Rembrandt, Watteau, Turner, Klee, Matisse, Twombly

>> No.6267553

Sounds like Botton wrote that. Wonder if he's boning her.

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Hopper

>> No.6267593

Botticelli, Klimt and Bouguereau.

>>6267289
have you seen the movie The Mill and the Cross? It's pretty good.

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Any stories about being moved to tears by a painting?

Seeing Doré's massive 'Memory of Spain' in person did it for me

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Anslam Kiefer

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Michael Borremans

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>>6267613
pic related and a Rothko brought out a couple of tears

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>>6267613
this in person

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Nolde, Degas, Matisse, Derain, Dufy, Van Gogh, Munch, Stuck, Redon

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>> No.6267698

>>6267678
was at the Belfast stop for the "Art of the Garden" exhibition. there was also a large photograph of a punky/pixie chick in very dark wooded area that was amazing for some reason and I can't seem to find it anywhere

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>> No.6267712

>>6267669
>a Rothko brought out a couple of tears

>The people who weep before my pictures are having the same religious experience I had when I painted them.
- Mark Rothko

I've been moved to tears recently by Rothko too.

Sunflowers I can take or leave.

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>>6267714
>>6267711
>>6267700
These people are NAKED, this is pure DEGENERACY! MODS! MODS!!!

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>>6267726
got here as quick as I could. what up?

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Joseph Mallord William Turner

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Daniel Richter

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>>6267756
Funnily enough I only discovered him while Googling for Gerhard Richter.

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David Altmejd

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Folkert De Jong

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"IKB 191"
Yves Klein

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Stephan Balleux

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>> No.6267827

>>6267811

I had a fight with Folkert in a bar in Rotterdam two years ago.

The result was inconclusive, as we were pulled apart, but no doubt we both claim it as a victory. In my version of the story I was fucking hammering him and it took four guys to drag me off him. Which may or may not be true - you can't prove it either way.

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"Onement VI"
Barnett Newman

>> No.6267840

>>6267613
google 'Leaving the Atocha Station excerpt'

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"Untitled (Blue Divided by Blue)"
Mark Rothko

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"Composition A"
Piet Mondrian

>> No.6267855

There are so many disgusting things ITT

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"One: Number 31"
Jackson Pollock

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always so much modernist art

dropping some rubens on this bitch

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>>6267858

>> No.6267865

>>6267613
Is the image of the child at the bottom of the frame referencing another work of art with Jesus in a similar pose?

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>>6267862

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>>6267868
my favourite from him

>> No.6267883

>>6267856
>>6267849
This is not fucking art, this is something my 6 year old daughter could make.

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>>6267272
Tullio Crali is great, very nice futurism.

>> No.6267896

>>6267883
>

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No love for Franz Marc?

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>>6267822
>>6267837
>>6267844
>Near monochrome paintings
degenerate, a 12 year old could paint that

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>>6267874
cla$$icz continued

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His animals are so gracious.

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>>6267883
Ok I guess it is wrong to call people plebs for not getting visual art, at least on a literature board. So, take the following under the assumption that this thread wasn't pretty damn off topic: fuck off, plebshit.

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>>6267909

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>> No.6267921

>>6267883
Learn some art history before you say dumb shit like that.

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>>6267913

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>>6267922

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>> No.6267936

>>6267907
>>6267883
"Muh kid could" implies an importance to skill and craftsmanship when it is in fact irrelevant.

If technical ability were the measure of art, there'd be no point in making it anymore when you could print a Vermeer instead.

Not that this exonerates abstract expressionism, but if it is shit it's not because "muh kid".

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>>6267928

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Mr Bacon

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>this thread
fucking ridiculous

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>>6267938

>> No.6267959

>>6267714
I did not know this painter. Thank you very much for posting this. He is amazing.

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>>6267958

>> No.6267964

who /goya/ here

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>>6267961

>> No.6267968

>>6267941
I always thought Francis Bacon was kind of empty. I can't find anything interesting in his paintings other than a nice use of certain colors. They look dead to me.

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Can someone tell me why do ancient Greek and Roman sculptures have no pupils? Just blank eyes.

Also, who made better sculptures and better art in your opinion? Romans or Greeks?

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>>6267969

They were painted on. Some people still forget that old statues used to be painted.

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>>6267969
I guess maybe they painted it and the paint faded with time?

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Europe

>> No.6267984

>>6267980
I think they look much better when not painted. I don't know what the Greeks had in mind when they decided to paint them.

>> No.6267986

This isn't literature. Stop making these threads.

>> No.6267989

>>6267980
>>6267981
What the fuck... I-It looks so ugly and not as austere as without paint.

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>>6267947
>>6267938
>>6267934
>>6267928
>>6267922
>>6267909
>>6267907
>>6267892
>>6267894
>>6267868
>>6267862
why are so many people in this thread obsessed with realism?

>> No.6267998

>>6267968
Have you seen Bacon in real life, or just reproductions in books and on the internet?

>> No.6268001

>>6267989
>muh classical art
you see, all art was always degenerate

>> No.6268002

>>6267998

I had some in a sarnie this morning, so what kind of a question is that?

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>>6267994
nigga, Da Vinci is renaissance nad Reubens and Rembrandt are baroque, also i'm actually glad they are posting this and not 19th century le classy academical realism

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>>6267994
There are many posts of non-realist paintings, my friend.

Our problem here is probably with abstract/dada/conceptual painting. I guess a good amount of people here think they're shit, myself included.

Anyway, have one of my favorite matisses.

>> No.6268010

>>6267980
>>6267969
Augustus was seriously so heavenly and divinelike.

He seems more like a deity than someone who was just a regular person.

I'd worship him.

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De Chirico

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>>6267965

>> No.6268018

>>6267994
they must never have been to the national gallery in London, one visit there, were you spend the entire day, you begin to understand why we had to move beyond realism.

>> No.6268021

>>6267998
On the internet. All of my appreciation of the great painter is due to the internet, unfortunately. I do recognize that my opinion could change if I saw him in real life, though.

It sucks to live in the third world. ; ;

>> No.6268026

>>6268021
>painters

fix'd

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>>6268013

I used to have a repro of that on my bedroom wall when I was 17.

No idea why now. It's pretty poor.

I had a poster for an exhibition with pic related on the other wall, iirc.

>> No.6268034

>>6268002
It's a bit tosh to make statements about artists work if you've never seen them in real life, but only judge from seeing reproductions in books et al.

>> No.6268041

>>6268021
Save up for a plane ticket and accommodation in London, all museums and galleries are usually free there, at least the larger ones.

Then you can go to tate modern and see Bacon, and head over to national gallery and national portrait gallery and spend a day there.

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>>6268017

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I'm suspecting /lit/ has become more of a high culture board than a literature board, perhaps this thread will start a process of including music, science, film and even more politics onto this board

>>6267994
Because since there is a gap between the ontologically realism of the thing represented and the painting it's I like to see artists attempts to bridge (or close) the abyss that divides art and the reality outside of the art piece. In this way I am also anti-Platonist (Republic Chapter 9&10). Though anything that has representations of real objects alright though like >>6268013

>> No.6268062

>>6268034
This is definitely true of someone like Rothko. You may not think much of them but they are a lot more dramatic in real life.

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>>6267907
“Listen–” he said so calmly, “I have read the editorial against my painting in your wonderful newspaper. I have read every word of the hate mail you have been thoughtful enough to send to New York.”

This embarrassed people some.

‘The painting did not exist until I made it,’ he went on. ‘Now that it does exist, nothing would make me happier than to have it reproduced again and again, and vastly improved upon, by all the five-year-olds in town. I would love for your children to find pleasantly and playfully what it took me many angry years to find.

“I now give you my word of honor,” he went on, “that the picture your city owns shows everything about life which truly matters, with nothing left out. It is a picture of the awareness of every animal. It is the immaterial core of every animal–the ‘I am’ to which all messages are sent. It is all that is alive in any of us–in a mouse, in a deer, ina cocktail waitress. It is unwavering and pure, no matter what preposterous adventure may befall us. A sacred picture of Saint Anthony alone is one vertical, unwavering band of light. If a cockroach were near him, or a cocktail waitress, the picture would show two such bands of light. our awareness is all that is alive and maybe sacred in any of us. Everything else about us is dead machinery.’

‘I have just heard from this cocktail waitress here, this vertical band of light, a story about her husband and an idiot who was about to be executed in Shepherdstown. Very well–let a five-year -old paint a sacred interpretation of that encounter. Let that five-year-old strip away the idiocy, the bars, the waiting electric chair, the uniform of teh guard, the gun of the guard, the bones and meat of the guard. What is that perfect picture which any five-year-old can paint? Two unwavering bands of light.”

>> No.6268066
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any /moreau/ here?

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>>6268058
>ontologically realism
*ontological reality

>> No.6268082

burn entartete kunst, burn degenerate art

picasso is shit guernica is shit
pollock is shit
kandinsky is shit

entartete kunst shitters can go suck duchamp

>> No.6268085

>>6268058
I think that's wonderful. We do need some place to talk about high culture which explicity reputiates low culture. Look at /r/truefilm: they tried to make a sub to talk about great movies, and yet a large part of what they talk there are popular movies by american filmmakers so that it looks just like a slightly improved version of /r/movies.

I think someone should create a kind of high culture forum for snobs like us, similar to places like talkclassical or philosophyforums, but which explicitly avoids discussion about popular stuff.

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>>6268066

>> No.6268092
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>>6268057
this guy knew how to compose a picture

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>>6268088

>> No.6268099

>>6268082
cont.

renoir is shit
monet is shit

it all started with monet

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>>6268092

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>>6268099
>renoir is shit
>monet is shit
Top pleb

>> No.6268105

>>6268058
fair enough.

>> No.6268106

>>6268082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgfHnugk1KU

I feel for you. Your indecision, your pain. Your refusal to accept help out of pride. I'm sorry life has been so hard for you that you cannot see the value in the works described. That your brain is so rigidly an gleefully resistant to abstraction.

God Speed,
Year of our Lord, XIV Martius MMXV

>> No.6268109
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>>6268102

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>>6268082
You are only partially right, my friend.

But please don't compare Renoir and Monet with those others. As for Picasso he is 30% genius 70% shit.

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6268122

I visited france, england and scotland last summer and i tried to go to every museum i could. The painting that had the most impact on me was this one.

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>> No.6268130

>>6267844
>>6267837
>>6267822
I don't get it, what is this doing in an ART APPRECIATION THREAD? How is that art?

Can someone explain it to me or something? What do you see in that?

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>>6268109
some matisse and then im out

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>>6268103
yeah, they're gr8

>>6268106
*tips fedora*
>>>/r/art


I bet you've never read hegel, umbero eco and others on art and aesthetics? your taste must be awfully pleb

>> No.6268137

>>6268130
It's art because the rich guys said so.

But don't worry, I hate it too. You're not alone.

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>>6268115
This
Picasso has only 3 good paintings, The Old Guitarist, Boy with a Pipe and The Dream

>> No.6268142

>>6268130
here's your reply>>6268064

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>>6268133

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>>6268145

>> No.6268150
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>>6268148

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>>6268148
masterpiece

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>> No.6268157

>>6268064
>the picture your city owns shows everything about life which truly matters, with nothing left out. It is a picture of the awareness of every animal. It is the immaterial core of every animal–the ‘I am’ to which all messages are sent. It is all that is alive in any of us–in a mouse, in a deer, ina cocktail waitress.

This is just a bunch of hippie buddhist shit nonsense from a talentless hack who can't paint.

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>> No.6268162
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6268162

This is my favourite Hopper.

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Somedays I like Redon, somedays I don't.

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>>6268154
fuck i love manet's use of black

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>>6268159
I love Rousseau. I once dreamed about the sleeping gypsy when I was a kid. It had made a very strong impression on me when I first saw a reproduction.

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>>6268166

>> No.6268180

Only 2 mentions of Klimt? What is going on, lit?

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>>6268180
That's because Klimt is shit mate

>> No.6268184

>>6268162
Same.

>> No.6268188

>>6268157
You're the reason Dadaism needed to exist.

>> No.6268189
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>> No.6268190

>>6268122
you saw that one at tate modern, right. I was also there last summer. Imagine, we could've been there looking at the same painting at the same time and never even know.

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>>6268137
>those sheeples, when will they learn?

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>>6268183
klimt painted philosophy

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>> No.6268220

>>6268196
Yeah, sure, because canned feces are just as good as Rembrandt, right?

>> No.6268227
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6268227

>>6268220
Seriously? You can't see the anguish in this?

>> No.6268234

>>6268220
that was not my point, besides, why would you even compare those two

>> No.6268238
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>What is called Philosophy of Art usually lacks one of two things: either the philosophy, or the art
-Friedrich Schlegel

Show me some philosophical art /lit/ and give a short explanation why.

>> No.6268251

>>6268227
This one is better, though.

>> No.6268259

>>6268064
>it's this it's that it's the essence with everything superfluous removed
No, it's green with a line on it.
This just in, every regular tricolour national flag resembles everything that truly matters in life!
It's nice to have an idea, but to create something shit and then attach that supposed idea to it is just stupid.
>lel u jus dun get it!
I'm genuinely glad I don't.
>>6268227
Just looks like a GTA life meter on 0, zoomed in.

>> No.6268260

>>6268238
hegel's lectures on aesthetics
umberto eco books

>> No.6268265

>>6268259
I like Rothko, Kandinsky and others, but I don't get Modrian either. I think he was some sort of spiritualist, which I can't really identify with.

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6268266

>>6267224
>School of life
Fuck off Alain De Botton
Pic related: half bald humanoid lizard who tries to be public philosopher like Zizek but unlike Zizek he's not taken seriously at all in academia.

>> No.6268268

>>6268259
>Just looks like a GTA life meter on 0, zoomed in.
That's an interesting, quite personal and profound interpretation, thankyou.

>> No.6268271

>>6268259
This.

Also, art should not aim at presenting ideas, it should aim at creating deep aesthetic experiences. That's why conceptual art is crap.

>> No.6268273

>>6268260
so is philosophy of art another word for meaningless rhetorics?

>> No.6268275

>>6268259
>Just looks like a GTA life meter on 0, zoomed in.
Now we know you're just trolling. Good while it lasted we can pack it up now.

>> No.6268277

>>6268273
rethoric can't be meaningless

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>>6268271
>it should aim at creating deep aesthetic experiences

Why do you feel that verisimilitude is requisite to fulfilling this purpose, though? Rothko at his best does give me a very visceral aesthetic experience, especially in person.

>> No.6268284

>>6268271
>Also, art should not aim at presenting ideas, it should aim at creating deep aesthetic experiences.

gonna need massive [citation needed] on that

>> No.6268285

>>6268271
There is nothing more vapid than an "aesthetic experience".

Good god it sounds like the court of King Louis XVI in here.

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>>6268265
D'oh, Modrian was the precursor to some of the most pervasive art of the 20thC.

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>>6268298

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>> No.6268314

>>6268285
Yes, it does. We are all dead white academicist rich European males here, and you may go back to reddit if you don't like it.

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>>6268275
pic related with the color scheme of the actual ''wasted'' screen
http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/703986001715632333/FA0A6FFEB798B775101B5333B011B91B0D254CD4/268x268.resizedimage

Also, on the painting it's darker near the bottom, with a sort of skylooking/cloudy top. Could be a cityscape.

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>>6268304

>> No.6268335 [DELETED] 

Surrealism, an extension of naturalism, is art for hateful robots, an instrument of Jewish despotism, swindle and imposture… As an extension of imbecilic naturalism, and as the rod and pruning shears of the Jewish eunuchs, surrealism is the registry of our emotional disenfranchisement…the ground for our hecatomb, our communal mass grave for idolatrous Aryan cretins, duped and cuckolded on a cosmic scale… And then it’s an entirely done deal! admirably done…for mugs like us!… At surrealism’s door, long quivering with impatience, with reductionism, and with objectivism, to all of its degrees, all or nearly all of our great writers ceaselessly hone themselves down to the infinitesimal, to the loss of that “jingling bell,” to the loss of the very last bit of substance. Were they to continue to handle themselves somewhat badly, were they to apply themselves to fantasy, were they to be drawn into idealism or romanticism, there are those who would immediately and fatally so smooth them out, after so many analyses, as to put them on their way towards surrealism… That is to say those who are promoted, well positioned, and delirious with impunity, in the most astounding imposture of the age, whose aim is the stupefaction of the people and the bourgeoisie…by way of the amassing of meaningless frenzies, parasymbolic simulacra, and frenetic fraudulent wanking… All of these are jingling bells as well! …jingling bells! …not even real bells! but vile little jingling bells! for rabid little beasts!

>> No.6268338

>>6268314
Are you going to the ball later tonight?

https://youtu.be/oEi1cyqKFvA

>> No.6268339 [DELETED] 

Things have not been going very well in the Kingdom of the Fine Arts, ever since the Renaissance, that great triumph of the “false note”! We have already become completely lost, copiously Judaized, negrified even, by the tripe going through lying projectors, but now we are completely capsizing into the shit, we have fallen into it, reduced to a sub-Proustian sublevel, into spinelessness and insensibility, due to the influence of smug analyses, of academic arcana, of an offhand objectivism, of an emasculating scientism, “ever closer to the facts and the causes,” of brazenly stupid speech, of super-wanker scenarios, of that entire immense spiritual and organic debacle owing to those great outpouring of loutishness, to that obfuscation-induced crumbling, to that Jewish flood, communistic, pursuant to which come the Jewish Ark and the Jewish prison, that is to say being ready to set sail on the ocean of Jewish murders. The World at the level of the Robots… You don’t really understand anything, do you, Mister Bishop Turpin?… No! No! Those are the souls which are going up into the air over the vapors of the flames… The Jews’ colossal trick consists of progressively taking away from the crowds, and then from the indigenous artists, through the standardization of all taste, any possibility for the natives to express or to communicate their sensibilities to their social brethren, which would stand to reawaken in them some sort of authentic emotion. The Jews are avenging the Abyssians! they have inverted the tastes of the Whites, so profoundly, to the point where the French now prefer the false to the authentic, the grimace to sensibility, and imbecilic mimicry to direct emotion. The time is not far off when the French will blush at Couperin. Modern music is only the tom-tom in transition… It’s the Jewish nigger who is palpating us in order to ascertain the extent to which we’ve become rotten and degenerate, and our Aryan sensibilities negrified… Then all of the nigger Jews, having already robotized us, and turned us into Stakhanovites, will then see fit to unload on us only their trashy merchandise, that being good enough for dirty slave meat like us. (Just look at Russia.)

>> No.6268344 [DELETED] 

These authors of all that is false, trashy and imitative, tin horns of modernism, and of all modern art, of surrealistic deceptions, worked-over, be it in dramatic, humorous or burlesque sauce, will never be very threatening to their tyrannical Jewish masters. Strictly denuded of any direct emotion, singing, these clowns are incapable of awakening or releasing anything dangerous among the masses. They will never be anything other than the employees, the lackeys to power, the butt-lickers and the suck-slaves of Jewish despotism. For each one of these clowns that happens to succumb, a hundred immediately leap forward to take his place, even more supine, even more servile, even more ignoble if possible… The great whorehouses of the modern arts, the immense Hollywood clans, all of the sub-galleries of robotic art, are never at a loss for these depraved acrobats… The recruitment knows no bounds. The average reader, the semi-refined amateur, the cocktail circuit snob, the horde of abject movie-eaters, the radio-stupefied, the starlet-struck fanatics, the entire public in essence, that enormous, nattering, swarming international of drunkards and cuckolded dupes, constitutes in every city and continent the stable foundation, the magnificent humus, the miraculous topsoil in which the shit of Jewish publicity can flourish, seduce and bewitch as never before. The modern public has been carefully conditioned by science, objectivism and the Jew, to be disgusted by any authentic emotion, and is inverted down to its very marrow, asking only to feast upon Jewish shit… Given the signal, given the hype (the Semite, a nigger in reality, is nothing but an eternal brute with a tom-tom), the Aryan mass responds with a thrill, relieving itself of all of its dough, so as all the better to jump, and doing all that it can in order better to enjoy Jewish, to wallow Jewish, and to rot Jewish, in its head, its flesh, its soul and in all of its stupidity. It gives itself over to it. It goes to perdition with it. The Aryan mass believes only in the billboards of Jewish politicians and Jewish movies, and in the newspapers and movie reviews and art critics, all Jewish.

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>> No.6268347 [DELETED] 

Their fatal and robotic insensibility condemns them all, once and for all, to rigid estimations, to descriptions, to overviews of sentiment, to grimaces, to collective movements, to brochures in the interests of tourism, to captions for photographs, to subtitles and inserts for advertising, to programs for events… Aside from that, they’re screwed. They can’t take the risk of mixing themselves up in the least little reproduction of emotion, for fear of committing atrocious gaffes.[...] Surrealism. In it, there is no longer anything to fear! No sort of emotivity is necessary. Anyone who wants can take refuge therein, and proclaim himself a genius! No matter which castrato, no matter which inverted Kike in a delirium of imposture, can make his own way to the top. There only has to be a little understanding, very easily concluded with the critics, that is to say amongst the Jews… [...]

An admirable Jewish trick!… The empty hype of the Jewish critics!… At a single stroke above all judgment! …superior to all points of reference! …to all humanistic texts… And the more emasculated, impotent, sterile, pretentious and farcical it is, the more of a bore and a poor impostor it is, the more forceful will be its effrontery, and the more genius and fantastic success it will have…(with Jewish publicity “on command,” you understand). Admirably simple! presto!… The Renaissance splendidly paved the way, through its Judaic fanaticism and its worship of the pre-scientific, for this stinking evolution towards all things seamy. This catastrophic promotion of all the world’s castrati into the Kingdom of the Arts… As a cultural manifestation of the “boys from the Freemasonic laboratories, and as claptrap even more bound-up, more constricted than Positivism, naturalism has since the Renaissance carried forth the same gigantic stupidities, the same calamitous prejudice in favor of the ultimate power of vapidity. This trick has not fallen on a deaf Jewish ear…

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>> No.6268353

>>6268335
>>6268339
>>6268344
>>6268347

everybody and everybody's mom on /lit/ knows that Celine pasta, what is the point of your autism?

>> No.6268356 [DELETED] 

>>6268353
they only know because I've been posting it for months

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>>6268346

>> No.6268370

>>6268338
Wanna dance with me? :3

>> No.6268470

>>6268109
This hit me in the chest like a ton of bricks

>> No.6268546

how can i learn to appreciate art? there are so many beautiful paintings in this thread, and i have no idea how to even begin to critique them.

>> No.6268556

>>6268546
>how can i learn to appreciate art? there are so many beautiful paintings in this thread, and i have no idea how to even begin to critique them.
These are two different things. The fact that you find it beautiful already means you are appreciating it.You don't have to critique anything, you just look and feel.

>> No.6268568

>>6268546
Read Gombrich's Story of Art, then buy books about your specific favorite painters such as these http://www.phaidon.com/store/art/colour-library/

>> No.6268570

>>6268546
Find the artist(s) of the paintings you like, read about their work, style, life, and then read about the movements they belonged to

Its probably daunting right now, with all the different styles ITT, but start small and work from there. over time the rest will fall into place

>> No.6268572

>>6268227
It's the back of a chair. You experience anguish because there's so little to see in the picture it forces you to draw from your own head, your own anguish.

This >>6268330 does something Rothko does not.
This smear >>6268332 can, *has*, been recreated several times. It's just a smear. Would you pay me to put it on your wall?

>> No.6268591

>>6268572
Shut up, Butters. Go see a Rothko in real life.

https://youtu.be/s6xLztH36kY

>> No.6268596

>>6268357
Fitting finish, hey chaps?

>> No.6268622

>>6268591
>Simon Schama
Oh gawd

Watch this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h__zQz6awu0

>> No.6268626

>>6268572
You come out w the same tired shit every time. Open your mind.

"One could say that any child could make a drawing like Twombly only in the sense that any fool with a hammer could fragment sculptures as Rodin did, or any house painter could spatter paint as well as Pollock. In none of these cases would it be true. In each case the art lies not so much in the finesse of the individual mark, but in the orchestration of a previously uncodified set of personal "rules" about where to act and where not, how far to go and when to stop, in such a way as the cumulative courtship of seeming chaos defines an original, hybrid kind of order, which in turn illuminates a complex sense of human experience not voiced or left marginal in previous art."

Also >>6268064

>> No.6268633

Why greeks and others could sculpt realistic statues during the antiquity but couldn't paint for shit? We had to wait for the renaissance for realistic painting.

>> No.6268648

>>6268633
There is some evidence suggesting that the Greeks could paint pretty well, although they hadn't mastered perspective yet. It was the Christian influences that had to be overcome by the Renaissance.

>> No.6268691

ROTHKO WAS A FUCKING GENIUS

>> No.6268850

>>6268633
The Faiyum mummy paintings from 1st century CE egypt shows the ability was certainly there before the renaissance. But we don't have a lot of painted portraiture before that for whatever reasons.

A lot of these Faiyum portraits had prominent, rather comical looking eyes. This was probably due to the eyes being a focus of worship and this style became the stylised kind of art seen in later medieval icon paintings. So it was a deliberate choice to create flat 2D images to not distract from the religious purpose rather than just being shitty painters.

Fucking image limit reached:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fayum+tomb+paintings&biw=1022&bih=1209&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=zIIEVb2gPOmX7Aau64HIDw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

>> No.6268883

Paul Delvaux
Jean Camille-Baptiste Corot
Kay Sage
de Chirico

>> No.6268966

>>6268883
>Corot
My nigga

>> No.6269013

>>6268622
To be fair butters, I don't like schama that much but you need to learn something about the process and the man before you start judging him.

>> No.6269231

>>6268153
Jesus Christ, the colour composition in this godly.

>> No.6269269

I have an art blog in which i upload OC uploads ( no reblogs ) from my personal art archive which took me years to gather. here :

http://autophony.tumblr.com

>> No.6269277

>>6267257
Love Italian futurism

>> No.6269329

>>6267791
Goya is my favorite, too

>> No.6269336

>>6269329
It's Füssli mate..

>> No.6269401

>>6269336
God, you're right. Why did I think that?

>> No.6269420

>>6269401
They are quite similar actually

>> No.6269437

>>6267936
HAHAHAHAHA
THIS IS /lit/ AT ITS FINEST : PSEUDO-INTELLECTUAL AND DECEPTIVE

>> No.6269481

>>6268572
>Would you pay me to put it on your wall?

Is that seriously how you judge art?

>> No.6269582

>>6269437
But what he said is actually true?

>> No.6269623

>>6267907
You can't say a word about a painting before you see it in person :^)

>> No.6270156

>>6268227
If all a painting is trying to do is evoke an emotion than its a mediocre painting.

>> No.6270214

>>6270156
here>>6269623

>> No.6270283 [DELETED] 

anyone else doing the edx on yuropoor paintings?

https://www.edx.org/course/explaining-european-paintings-1400-1800-uc3mx-ceh-1-enx

it's very easy

>> No.6270336

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBu6NT-9CfA

>> No.6270540

>>6268066
>jesus christ how horrifying

>> No.6270973

>>6268310
this looks like the interior of the boat at the start of morrowind
holy shit

>> No.6271039

>>6270973
i guess this means video games are art :^)

>> No.6271064

>>6268626
>"One could say that any child could make a drawing like Twombly
This is true. I've seen them.
>"only in the sense that any fool with a hammer could fragment sculptures as Rodin did,
This is not true. That would take lots of training and practice.
>"or any house painter could spatter paint as well as Pollock."
If you've seen Who the Fuck is Jackson Pollock, provided above, you'd know that not even Jackson Pollock can paint a "Jackson Pollock". According to experts.
It's a craft, but not witchcraft. But sometimes it's a sham. It's all art though.

>>6269481
I hate what money has done to good art, and I mock this Twombly. I see and respect Rothko's and others gimmicks, but some art goes beyond overrated. Call it jealousy, I don't care.

>>6269013
I've been harsh, it's just that I already know what his work is about, and I just think the praise heaped on him is a little overblown.
And though that bio-doc is a bit screwy, I can appreciate the man on a more personal level now. Wanting to show up those rich dinners but in the end not selling out, etc.

>>6270156
Oh shut up.

>> No.6271278

>>6269231
i didn't particularly like when I first saw it; it was only a few years later, when I discovered the red roses sitting in the centre, that I was able to appreciate it for what it was

absolutely incredible