ITT: lit does film. What are some of your favourite literature related films(?); be it about writers (real/fictional) or anything else that fits with the /lit/ ethos.

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Anonymous Mon Mar 9 23:55:59 2015 No.6248690 [Reply] [Original]

ITT: lit does film.
What are some of your favourite literature related films(?); be it about writers (real/fictional) or anything else that fits with the /lit/ ethos.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 23:57:21 2015 No.6248698 File: 75 KB, 580x867, mishima-4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6248690 Not that one Best writer biopic is pic related

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 23:57:22 2015 No.6248699 >>6248690 They should rename "Midnight in Paris" to "Midnight Namedrops"

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>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 00:05:04 2015 No.6248730 Pierrot le fou

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 00:09:47 2015 No.6248741 Sideways Dead Poets Society And Midnight in Paris is a good film.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 00:14:42 2015 No.6248761 I enjoyed ruby sparks, as a sort of almost romcom/psychological thriller

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 00:14:42 2015 No.6248762 File: 412 KB, 1125x1500, Detachment-poster.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 00:17:09 2015 No.6248772 File: 129 KB, 600x800, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6248690 Did anyone go to see 'the end of the tour' at sundance?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 00:34:55 2015 No.6248828 File: 151 KB, 1131x707, Life_Aquatic_by_NDWest12 (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6248690 Speaking of Wes, Eli Cash is /lit/ incarnate

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 00:36:01 2015 No.6248831 >>6248699 i cringed a bit during the bunuel scene

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 00:39:18 2015 No.6248840 File: 751 KB, 1050x800, findingforrester.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Not bad at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 00:40:28 2015 No.6248847 >>6248840 YOU'RE THE MAN NOW DOG

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 00:43:18 2015 No.6248858 File: 56 KB, 600x408, 045-faust.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] keep trying /lit/

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 00:47:34 2015 No.6248876 >>6248858 >faust well meme'd!

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 00:53:07 2015 No.6248892 >>6248762 My nig. Fantastic film.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 00:53:14 2015 No.6248893 File: 351 KB, 1920x1080, no_country_for_old_men_image_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 00:58:57 2015 No.6248905 File: 92 KB, 500x375, 1424910456416.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6248876 >browse thread >no mention of Barton Fink >mfw

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 01:01:48 2015 No.6248913 >>6248876 nah but faust is an amazing film? maybe you prefer nosferatu, and i would agree that it is a better film in regard to plot, but faust is still a game changer. murnau was a genius who brought the supernatural 2 tha screen

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 01:03:05 2015 No.6248916 >>6248762 i'm gay for adrien brody

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 01:06:24 2015 No.6248919 >>6248893 came to post this. great book too. movie is better i think

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 01:08:18 2015 No.6248921 >>6248916 Im bray for gadrien ody

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:06:52 2015 No.6249069 >>6248905 I just saw this a few months ago, don't know how it didn't spring to my mind. I thought it was phenomenal, and I don't get into films too much.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:09:11 2015 No.6249077 ayy I was watching Midnight in Paris with my girlfriend just an hour ago I love it, and I also love The Autobiography of Alice B. Toklas by Gertrude Stein and A Moveable Feast by Hemingway, from which so much of that movie was writen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:10:57 2015 No.6249083 File: 70 KB, 450x573, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] who knew /lit/ was so full of plebs

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:12:22 2015 No.6249086 >>6249083 B-but david never made a /lit/ movie ;(

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:13:26 2015 No.6249089 >>6249086 you mean an adaptation of a written work? why would he? he's the most original American filmmaker in history

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:13:41 2015 No.6249090 >>6249086 oh man you best be kidding lynch is like the best of both worlds.. generally i like to seperate my tastes in these mediums

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:16:17 2015 No.6249094

>>6248725
It fucking killed me how good Adaptation was
How the plot changes with the main character's opinion of how the film should go, how the end is totally unsatisfying because that's how the shallow action flicks generally leave us, the random twin brother

I can't say enough good things about it

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:20:05 2015 No.6249102 >>6249083 Blue Velvet was only alright That being said, Mulholland Drive is one of the greatest films ever made >>6249086 >>6249089 >What is Wild at Heart?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:20:08 2015 No.6249103 >>6249090 David's work is heavily influenced by visuals and sound His scripts are obviously important but he's more of a "director" than a "writer"

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:20:09 2015 No.6249104 >>6248725 I love this. His brothers shitty script, "The Three" I think it was called.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:20:14 2015 No.6249105 File: 594 KB, 1270x1800, KINO_Stalker_front.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6248690 >woody allen Top neurotic suburban dweller pleb.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:24:44 2015 No.6249114 >>6249105 >Tarkovsky Mah nigga It always surprised me how good the Strugatskys were as well

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:25:13 2015 No.6249115 Have any of you seen Kenneth Anger's film Scorpio Rising?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:28:38 2015 No.6249122 File: 2.00 MB, 280x189, Shot through phone.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6249105 >>6249114 Real hood shit right here Also top tier but more experimental is Dog Star Man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAoTHILzheo

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Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:36:59 2015 No.6249145

>>6249103
This

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxKPBLjHAEA

You couldn't possibly call this literary. However, it is a shining example of what film can be.

Film and literature are two completely different mediums, which is why a show like Hannibal (great, great show, one of my all-time favorites in terms of symbolism, character development, foreshadowing and plot) still will never be able to compare to something like Twin Peaks or True Detective.

I would argue that a great script is literature, but a great film is something else entirely. When the two come together, though...Lord preserve.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:41:01 2015 No.6249159 >>6249123 Ah shit, another one of my favorite movies. Wanted to read the novel after and I was just like "wtf, how is this prose"

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:42:07 2015 No.6249163 Great paper-to-film transitions? Obligatory, as is >>6248893 >>6249145 Good post, anon

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:43:12 2015 No.6249168

>>6249145
When you boil it down to its basics, film is not only a visual language but also a cooperative one. A quality picture isn't amazing because of a single director or writer; everyone sort of has a hand in it. Everyone. Especially the actors! Actors sometimes end up being the "writers" of a scene. Literature, on the other hand, has none of these qualities.

t. actor nominated this year for best supporting

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:46:05 2015 No.6249177 File: 178 KB, 1000x562, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6249163 Fuck

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:46:45 2015 No.6249178 File: 16 KB, 300x168, Unknown-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6248690 hands-down best /lit/-core film? yep.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:47:43 2015 No.6249182 >>6249178 >Michel gondry >Noam Chomsky I was 19 once

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:50:49 2015 No.6249198

>>6249168
I suppose that's very true. I didn't mean to cut actors out from the final product at all (of course), but I just meant in terms of one person's influence over a film (I.e. Lynch or Kauffman). That being said, I suppose one actor can make a movie as well.

Also...Edward Norton? Or Ethan Hawke?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:52:42 2015 No.6249203 >>6249198 Hint: been in a wes anderson picture before

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:55:49 2015 No.6249213 >>6249203 Ed. Duh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 02:59:33 2015 No.6249227 >>6249178 So, beat out by Waking Life in pretty much every way?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 03:00:03 2015 No.6249230 >>6249182 epic meme my fellow shitposter

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 03:00:10 2015 No.6249232 >>6249227 >linklater

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 03:01:18 2015 No.6249236 >>6248690 Two of my favourite films by Joachim Trier. Reprise, about two young writers http://youtu.be/J6xhnSp5Gdw And Oslo August 31 based on the novel Le Feu follet http://youtu.be/1ThIO0X2M08

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 03:08:32 2015 No.6249247 >>6249236 Oslo 31. august was so full of itself in what world do heroin addicts know about adorno? shit made no sense

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 03:09:21 2015 No.6249249

>>6249227
Waking Life seems to be a lot more focused than Man who is Tall. It's the difference between a film and a filmed conversation.

And don't get me wrong, I like Gondry better than Linklater mostly. But I still think Waking Life is a better movie.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 03:10:11 2015 No.6249252 >>6249213 ;)

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 03:10:26 2015 No.6249254 >>6249249 Whoops>>6249232

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 03:13:22 2015 No.6249258 >>6249252 Love you Eddie Leaves of Grass is one of my favorites

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 06:25:39 2015 No.6249547 Barton Fink and The Shining are best movies about writers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 06:31:20 2015 No.6249556 File: 72 KB, 720x540, blaise pascalPDVD_007 .jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >best film about a writer Blaise Pascal

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 06:38:26 2015 No.6249575 Love and Death is better than Midnight In Paris, and still very /lit/. The plot is filled with references to Russian literature.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 07:11:37 2015 No.6249631 >>6249105 This entire film went over my head. I've read the book, played the games (not that they're really relevant) but I just did not understand what happened at the end.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 10:24:54 2015 No.6250008 Dream adaptation: Stoner Directed by Mike Nichols Starring Roy Scheider

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 10:36:01 2015 No.6250035 >>6249575 Mon nègre. Love and death is the best Allen film.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 10:46:56 2015 No.6250067 >>6250035 It's definitely the funniest. I think Hannah and Her Sisters is his masterpiece, with Manhattan a close second.

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 11:12:51 2015 No.6250117

>>6248690

Anyone ever notice that movies about poets or authors are generally complete garbage? For example we watched Dead Poets Society on the last few days of AP Lit last year. I think my teacher liked it because it had a few sentences involving poetry, but overall it was one of the worst films I've seen in a long time. Basically "Remember The Titans" type of corniness (which I also had to see like once a year -- I went to school about 10 miles away from where the story/movie supposedly took place)

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 11:25:02 2015 No.6250140 File: 11 KB, 185x272, index.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6248690 I don't even have to look though the thread to know that you are all complete asses and and have completely failed mentioning the best movie

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 11:28:42 2015 No.6250152 >>6249114 >Strugatskys Give recommendation now

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 11:35:21 2015 No.6250174 >>6250152 Hard to be a God Roadside Picnic The Pilgrim Saga

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 11:36:44 2015 No.6250176

>>6249631
They decided not to go inside the room because it only fulfils their true desires not what they think they want. Stalker is disapointed by lack of faith in people and that even he has his doubts about zone. Then his wife tells him how everyone was telling her not to marry him but she believed in him. At the end his daughter moves stuff with her supernatural powers so maybe miracles do exist and people should believe in stuff and not lose their faith so quickly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 11:39:18 2015 No.6250184 >>6249575 It is actually parody of Russian literature.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 11:40:21 2015 No.6250189 >>6250174 Thank you

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 11:41:46 2015 No.6250192 >>6248725 Fucking trash. Narcissistic masturbation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 11:43:30 2015 No.6250195 >>6250192 Portraying yourself as a loser who can't talk to a girl and has no idea how to write his script really is narcistitic as fuck

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 11:44:49 2015 No.6250196 >>6250192 The point is that he hates himself and is too neurotic to finish anything The last thing I would call Charlie Kauffman is a narcissist.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 11:49:42 2015 No.6250217 >>6250195 >loser who can't talk to a girl and do you even know what narcissistic means

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 11:54:22 2015 No.6250232

>>6250217
noun
1.
inordinate fascination with oneself; excessive self-love; vanity.
Synonyms: self-centeredness, smugness, egocentrism.
2.
Psychoanalysis. erotic gratification derived from admiration of one's own physical or mental attributes, being a normal condition at the infantile level of personality development.

What is wrong with what I wrote?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 11:56:12 2015 No.6250235 >>6250217 >>6250217 I think he was sarcastic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 11:59:51 2015 No.6250242 >>6250235 the internet is filled with idiots, i'm beggining to take everything at face value. god help me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 12:00:56 2015 No.6250244 >>6248690 allen stole this from vila matas

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 12:01:18 2015 No.6250246

>>6250195
>>6250196
>people actually think it isn't narcissistic to write a movie about yourself

Yeah, sure. He portrayed himself as pathetic in the movie. Since when can't a narcissist be self hating? Self hate is as self centered as self love. You aren't a saint for hating yourself and you aren't being deep just for being self depricating.

The movie is completely self important. Saying "I'm a snake eating it's own tale" doesn't excuse you actually going ahead and continuing to do it. Its just you trying to beat critics to the punch by pointing out you own flaws before they can.

Charlie Kaufman does this 10x over and you all call him a genius for something I feel is incredibly banal. But whatever, this is just an opinion in a danish opium den

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 12:17:24 2015 No.6250277 >>6249083 >says /lit/ is full of plebs >posts image of David Lynch KEK! Aside from The Elephant Man, Lynch is about as pleb as you can get.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 12:19:04 2015 No.6250281 >>6250277 You couldn't get more pleb than Hitchcock. Amateurish attempts at elitism are the self proclaimed fanatics of him.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 12:28:05 2015 No.6250295 >>6250277 The Elephant Man is THE most pleb Lynch flick!

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 12:28:12 2015 No.6250296 >>6248828 Owen has admitted he based the character on McCarthy. He actually does a good job of making a caricature of McCarthy's style in the film.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 12:31:11 2015 No.6250303 >>6248690 Not a writer but I think Amadeus is one of the best movies ever made about an artist of any discipline

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 12:31:50 2015 No.6250305 >>6250281 Hitchcock is hilarious though. Quite a character. His movies have an enjoyable. Not every filmmaker needs to be avant garde.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 12:33:03 2015 No.6250309 >>6250303 I'd say the best movie about an artist is "the killing of a chinese bookie".

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 12:35:39 2015 No.6250311 >>6249073 I watched this two weeks ago. Apparently the screenplay for it was fucking huge and written like a novel, which is the only reason Schwartzman agreed to star in it. Philip is /lit/ incarnate though, great movie.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 12:40:12 2015 No.6250319 >>6250305 I suppose. That is like saying not every director has to make good movies though. Do not mistake this post as saying avant garde is the only way to make good movies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 12:41:50 2015 No.6250323 >>6250242 >idiots >beggining

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 12:43:42 2015 No.6250326 >>6250323 Good sir, waht pobrlem you hvae wtih my sllepnig?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 12:46:39 2015 No.6250331 >>6249178 This shit was so damn boring.

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 12:47:54 2015 No.6250336

>>6250319
No, it isn't at all like saying that. Maybe Avant Garde films are the only kind you watch but there is a place for competent entertaining movies. Knowing the difference and judging accordingly is important.

Good as we know is relative to goal. Some filmmakers shoot to experiment, some want to make point and others wish merely to entertain. No one shoots solely to make unredeemable bad movies.

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 13:09:58 2015 No.6250386

>>6249247
Oslo August 31st is one of the most refined scripts of any movies I've ever watched. Beyond struggling with his heroin addiction, it's also about a very specific sort of Scandinavian restlessness and angst. I'm Swedish so I fucking love it and appreciated every single scene and saw it's sublimity, but perhaps someone from a different culture wouldn't be able to recognize it.

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 13:25:38 2015 No.6250417

I ask, what is a literature related film?

Is this limited solely to films about writing? If so, what good is this to the audience? The struggles unique to the writer pale in comparison to the more generalized struggles of the human spirit.

Is it instead some film that replicates the medium of literature? Would not such a film be necessarily a failure of the film medium to distinguish itself?

Finally, is it something that replicates the scope and subjects of literature? If this is the case would not that scope be so all encompassing so as to make the distinction meaningless. Is not a film like Raging Bull as literary as Midnight in Paris? Is Raging Bull not in fact more literary if we examine the emotional and artistic depth of the film?

Perhaps we should, instead of making these arbitrary connections, evaluate each medium for its own merits comparing only those factors that they have in common. Evaluate their characters, narrative and subtext instead of superficially looking at whether one's subject matter concerns the other.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 14:39:36 2015 No.6250624 >>6250386 I'm Norwegian, young and /libarts/. I don't think there was a single second in the movie that resonated with me maybe I need to see it again

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 14:43:31 2015 No.6250637
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>no Werner Herzog
>>Someone like Jean-Luc Godard is for me intellectual counterfeit money when compared to a good kung fu film.

pic related is pretty good reading

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 14:45:05 2015 No.6250642 >>6249094 >how the end is totally unsatisfying because that's how the shallow action flicks generally leave us, the random twin brother HOLY SHIT

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 14:52:14 2015 No.6250663 >>6249247 In Norway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 14:53:20 2015 No.6250669 File: 51 KB, 483x755, 8668.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what's your opinion about this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 15:13:13 2015 No.6250743 The Before Trilogy. Sure, Jesse is only an author in parts 2 and 3, but fuck it, they have a literary quality to them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 15:16:49 2015 No.6250767 >>6248762 Literally the worst film I've ever seen. How could anyone not laugh at this absurd melodrama?

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 15:16:59 2015 No.6250768

>>6249094
Which action movies have unsatisfying endings? Action is one of the genres that thrives on giving clear precise and proportionate endings to their plots. I've never seen one have a literal non-ending.

>i'll end it with a bad lazy ending and it makes a point... sort of... not really I guess.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 15:19:23 2015 No.6250776 >ITT: You're such a pleb! >no, ur such a pleb!! lmao lrn the diff between film and flicks!! /tv/ is shit even when it's not /tv/

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 15:19:55 2015 No.6250778 >>6249105 Tarkovsky is my favorite filmmaker, but I don't see him as particularly literary. He revolutionized cinema but he was not a great storyteller.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 15:22:13 2015 No.6250784 Orson Welles' adaptation of Kafka's The Trial is surprisingly decent.

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 15:24:11 2015 No.6250795

>>6250778
I disagree. He I would say had less impact on film than most art house directors if only because he made his films so difficult to understand for a general audience.

He was an amazing storyteller, it is simply that you had to learn a new language to understand what he was doing. His storytelling with environment and camera movement is probably unmatched by any other director.

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 15:26:26 2015 No.6250805

>>6250386
And not to mention it's technically impressive. Beautiful cinematography all throughout. You're right to say other cultures might not recognize it. I'm American and the only one among my friends to enjoy it. The others didn't have the patience for it. They kept waiting for something to happen, they said. But they're all happy, well-adjusted cultureless plebs. It was much easier for me to identify with Anders, as I'm in a similar situation, which I'm sure is why the film connected with me so much more. That's among the best films I know of that have been released this decade.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 15:30:21 2015 No.6250817 >>6250295 No, this is what plebs (who want desperately not to be plebs) think because it's more straightforward and heartfelt. But as a work of art it is his most timeless. The rest of his films are failed experiments, the TV series included.

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 15:45:53 2015 No.6250874

>>6250795
I agree mostly, but that is not storytelling in a literary sense. He is able to convey meaning visually, but I'm not convinced that it follows any codified set of rules, and so it is not really a language, even if that word does get across one aspect of what he does in his films. His images usually do not symbolize anything, they are just stunningly beautiful and skillfully arranged. The stories alone are great, but the way they are presented on screen is ineffable, it goes beyond the narrative.

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 15:55:02 2015 No.6250917

>>6250795
>because he made his films so difficult to understand for a general audience.

There is a nice story somewhere about how few critics started asking him questions about meaning of Mirror and he didn't want to tell them until they guessed it. This went on for hours with critics talking about symbols and historical refrences and what not and Tarkovsky was not sattisfied. And then old lady that was cleaning the room in which they were said that film was obviously just about old man that is about to die and he thinks about and remembers many parts of his life. Tarkovsky was finally pleased and let all of them go.

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 15:59:29 2015 No.6250935
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Akira Kurosawa is the greatest film director, hands down.Virtually every film by him is a masterpiece.

I recommend to anyone who hasn't seen his films to watch Ikiru, Throne of Blood, Rashomon, or the Seven Samurai,

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 16:08:28 2015 No.6250963

>>6250874
>His images usually do not symbolize anything
Oh, man. You are stating a lot there that I don't think is bared out if you take the time to really parse what he is doing. Go watch Nostalghia and think about what the water and the fire represent for instance. It may be most blatant in that film.

In every one of his films you can look for Fire, Water, Wind, and Earth and at least two will mean something thematically every time. I think you are doing him a disservice to say that all he did was make pretty pictures.

>>6250917
Yeah, most of his films have a great austerity of message that is very easy to over-think especially if you are used to dissecting art house films and applying some extremely complex analysis of everything. I think that's the primary mistake most people make when they watch a Tarkovsky movie. They think it is a puzzle that must somehow be solved.

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 16:13:29 2015 No.6250984

>>6250935
I love Kurosawa but I'm not sure I'd call him the greatest film director. He made many great films. High and Low, Throne of Blood and Ran are among my personal favorites but there have been many amazingly talented directors that at least equal Kurosawa's skill and even surpass it. You have to really consider what it is that should be classified as great if you are going to make lofty statements like this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 16:15:16 2015 No.6250991 >>6250935 >Virtually every film by him is a masterpiece. Absolute bullshit. Most of his modern dramas were forgettable in comparison to mizoguchi, ozu, and naruse.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 16:19:12 2015 No.6251011 What was /lit/'s favorite movie of 2014? Mine was Boyhood. inb4 edgy internet contrarians calling boyhood shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 16:20:23 2015 No.6251018 >>6251011 Hard to be a God, Winter Sleep. Didn't watch much else

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 16:23:11 2015 No.6251031

>>6251011
The problem with boyhood isn't that is was bad from a technical standpoint. It is that it traffics solely upon the gimmick of being filmed over 12 years. Without this production detail it is forgettable coming of age stuff. I know, we all came of age and that gets a lot of men weepy but as a pure cinematic exercise there is very little of note here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 16:25:09 2015 No.6251040 File: 291 KB, 784x468, barton-fink-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6248690 barton fink <_<

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 16:26:33 2015 No.6251051 >>6251031 Oh, and the movie that I liked the most this year was Edge of Tomorrow. Maybe I'll find something from 2014 year in the art house as time goes along though. still haven't seen Ida.

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 16:26:59 2015 No.6251055

>>6251031
>Without this production detail it is forgettable coming of age stuff.

I disagree, I thought it was very beautiful and realistic in a sort of cinema verite sort of way and the fact that it used the same actors for twelve years just made it even better. I didn't think it was gimmicky though.

Have you ever seen Slacker? I think it would have been good in the same way that Slacker was good even if it weren't for the 12 years thing, as it stands though I thought it was a lot better than Slacker. Just a really moving and simplistically beautiful movie that could have ended up being really pretentious and bad but was the opposite of that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 16:32:08 2015 No.6251072 >>6251055 I glad you liked it. Maybe you are just a fan of Linklater and I am not.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 16:33:26 2015 No.6251080 >>6251072 Nah some of his movies are shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 16:37:54 2015 No.6251094 >>6250935 I can think of at least five Japanese directors who are greater: Ozu, Mizoguchi, Teshigahara, Shindô, and Koreeda. And I know there are others I'm forgetting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 17:01:37 2015 No.6251201 >>6251094 >Ozu, >Mizoguchi, >Teshigahara Absolutely >Shindo >Koreeda Let's calm down. Kurosawa is at least top 5. >I know there are others I'm forgetting. Suzuki Kobayashi Shinoda Kurahara

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 17:28:17 2015 No.6251305 >>6249086 didn't he do Dune? Totally flopped, but still.

>>	PAPERCLIPis !BASEDl5FD2 Tue Mar 10 17:29:26 2015 No.6251313 >>6248762 great movie

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 17:34:04 2015 No.6251335 >>6251201 Koreeda is one of the greatest contemporary directors of any country. Kurosawa might beat Shindo, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 17:39:29 2015 No.6251370 >>6251011 Birdman and Jodorowsky's Dance of Reality were my pick for best film of last year

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 17:41:11 2015 No.6251377 >>6251335 Maybe he is, but his career isn't over yet. Let's not count him yet. We need to see the rest of what he does first.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 17:44:10 2015 No.6251388 >>6251335 I like you purely for your high praise of Kore-eda and agree he's one of the best today, but his pedigree just can't hold up to Kurosawa's (yet, who knows) and I personally favor him a lot more than Akira.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 17:48:26 2015 No.6251408 Ikura as a film is either outdated TODAY or has themes which are juvenile. I actually like it for its terrific execution of those but even with that it couldn't surmount to much. Where's the quality?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 17:50:56 2015 No.6251422 >>6251011 Godard's Goodbye to Language, Leviathan, and the Immigrant >>6251018 These two are also fantastic

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 17:51:47 2015 No.6251426

>>6251335
I watched Like Father, Like Son, and it felt like a Japanese version of one of these tearjerker made-for-TV Lifetime movies
feels were had but far from great, all the clichés were there

>rich dad is of course emotionally distant and always busy
>poor dad is cool and down to earth

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 17:52:59 2015 No.6251435 >>6251422 I thought Goodbye to Language was slightly disappointing Still good though

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 17:55:28 2015 No.6251445 >>6251426 Not that guy but watch Still Walking. A little more meditative, a little less melodramatic.

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