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Anonymous Mon Mar 9 09:09:58 2015 No.6245763 [Reply] [Original]

>unless you work all your life, writing, reading and thinking you will never be remembered
>even if you do dedicate yourself to literature you may not produce anything worthwhile
>even if you do write something timeless, it may be unjustly forgotten
>even if you do create something that will be read by generations it still means nothing since humans may destroy themselves at any point since the creation of nuclear weapons
>millions of years from now nobody will remember Plato or Tolstoy if we make it that far

Why not kill yourself right now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 09:11:34 2015 No.6245766 what made you think you were destined to become a special snowflake?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 09:14:15 2015 No.6245773 >>6245763 Do it faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 09:16:21 2015 No.6245774 everything, eventually, will be forgotten does that not give you incredible power? no matter how hard you fuck it up, no-one will remember "timeless" is an illusion the road is the goal

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 09:18:15 2015 No.6245782 >>6245766 Where in my post do I state that I'm "destined to become a special snowflake"?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 09:22:58 2015 No.6245795 File: 53 KB, 640x360, 508318667_640.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Trust quality or popularity. If you can string a sentence you can write. Don't worry be happy Hallo Spaceboy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_Ph72pCNlM

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 09:24:52 2015 No.6245802 >>6245763 >true immortality would be the only reaon to be alive Not sure if that warrants an answer beyond, no.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 09:26:05 2015 No.6245807 >>6245782 Everywhere

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 09:27:20 2015 No.6245811 >>6245807 Yeah, sure

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 09:30:06 2015 No.6245817 >>6245782 >"you will never be remembered bawwww" etc etc what made you think that you ought to be remembered? you could only find this disappointing if you were raised with the tacit assumption that you somehow deserve to be a significant person?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 09:32:09 2015 No.6245825 >>6245763 Bringing joy to a limited number of persons for a limited amount of time is a incommensurable reward.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 09:32:33 2015 No.6245827 >>6245763 Ikr? So do what the fuck you do.

Anonymous Mon Mar 9 09:36:25 2015 No.6245834

>>6245817
Are you incapable of reading? I'm just stating that even if you do dedicate your life to literature, it's all pointless in the end.

I'm not saying that I will ever do so, because I'm too weak. Stop implying things that aren't there, just because you're bitter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 09:38:25 2015 No.6245840 >>6245834 >it's all pointless in the end. what made you think otherwise? its like you guys are actively fostering the mindset of a 12 year old child

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 09:47:33 2015 No.6245855 >>6245763 >writing to be remembered in the far future Let me guess, your protagonists are always approached early in the story by a character who gives them some lame speech detailing what the book is about?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 09:57:07 2015 No.6245866 why is being remembered imporatnt

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 10:03:31 2015 No.6245878 >>6245866 What else is worth attaining?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 10:04:14 2015 No.6245880 >>6245878 not hing

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 10:07:39 2015 No.6245890 >>6245878 Nothing is permanent. Nobody will be remembered forever. Impermanence is reality. Stop living with delusion. it will make you desperately unhappy

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 10:09:02 2015 No.6245894 because there's a chance. And also, life is pretty fun when you're not being a sad sack of shit.

Anonymous Mon Mar 9 10:15:38 2015 No.6245912

>>6245763
>may
>may
>may
You're actually way too optimistic. Anyone who attempts to dedicate their life to literature is practically certain to never be published, let alone publish something great/famous- given the number of people attempting to write vs. those who succeed at it, that's just basic maths.

Epic maymays, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 10:19:00 2015 No.6245922 >>6245878 That's not an answer. How is 'being remembered after you die' not just an arbitrary target to set yourself? What's so desirable about it?

Anonymous Mon Mar 9 10:43:22 2015 No.6245977

>>6245763

Seriously, who gives a shit?

Why do most of the people on this board, in spite of their supposed intellectualism, care so much about 'making something of themselves.'

Here's an idea: stop being so caught up in your ego. Enjoy art FOR THE SAKE OF IT. Contribute to art FOR THE SAKE OF IT. You don't have to strive toward some significant creative achievement, or a long-lasting legacy. You can just be an ordinary person who enjoys literature.

It's clear that you cling, either consciously or unconsciously, to the capitalistic notion that one has to use one's skill or intelligence to 'achieve' something. As if it's not enough to possess the skill or intelligence. The important thing, the very essential thing, is to build oneself up. The creative 'gift,' then, becomes secondary. This is nonsense.

Let's drop this idea, this dogma, of creative striving. It's dehumanizing. It suggests that one's worth doesn't lie in the possession of some bit of greatness, but the vast circulation or widespread acknowledgement of it. You're better than this, /lit/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 11:21:08 2015 No.6246065 >>6245763 >I want everyone to remember me as a writer, not just influence a few peoples lives by opening their minds a bit through storytelling. You failed.

Anonymous Mon Mar 9 11:25:19 2015 No.6246077
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I think it would be weird to read many books and not write one yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77PzXCKDyVQ

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 13:28:26 2015 No.6246350 I feel the same way OP. I want to have something published or record an album that has the possibility of being recognized. Maybe not to millions of people, but to some.

Anonymous Mon Mar 9 13:36:38 2015 No.6246367

>>6245977
>You can just be an ordinary person who enjoys literature.
Top. Kek.

The people on this board hate reading. They force themselves to read like they force themselves to exercise, except the goal is to inflate their already over-inflated ego instead of losing weight.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 14:42:43 2015 No.6246587 >>6245766 What's the problem people have with "special snowflakes"? Everyone is different and it's natural for people to want attention and feel significant.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 14:47:12 2015 No.6246596 >>6246367 get a load of these hot projections

Anonymous Mon Mar 9 14:48:15 2015 No.6246598

The whole idea of the artistic genious didn't come about before the romantic period.
It's just a marketing scheme to make people more interested in art. Traditionally, this kind of idoltary was mocked and looked down upon.

'Artists' are like mirrors, the real artist is the world that is mirrored in the artwork.

Da Vinci didn't create Mona Lisa millions of years of evolution did.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 14:49:37 2015 No.6246604 why do you care about being remembered if you are dead. How could it even matter, you have as much claim to Tolstoys works than your own once you are dead.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 15:06:43 2015 No.6246650 >>6245878 Contentment Happiness Pleasure Knowledge Perspective Aesthetics Friendship Conversation “Lust and learning. That's really all there is, isn't it?” - From John Williams' "Stoner"

>>	steki !!YZ75WBx2rxh Mon Mar 9 15:14:38 2015 No.6246679 >>6245763 hey i remember when i was 12 too

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 15:22:30 2015 No.6246714 >>6246598 >genious >idoltary

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 15:30:08 2015 No.6246743 File: 33 KB, 302x508, 1421700771552.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6245763 >why not kill yourself right now that's what I'm trying to figure out, anon

Anonymous Mon Mar 9 16:29:53 2015 No.6247016

What these times need the most can be said in two words "the eternal"; because this is this problem with this time: that it is precisely only time and it does not wish to look outside of temporal things.
Yearning for the eternal is in all of us, the ways have been forgotten, and most of the times they are sold to us as yet another commodity. But in one way or the other, everyone who walks the true path to themselves will experience the eco of eternity in time, the silent whisper of god

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 16:32:33 2015 No.6247028 Why not live your life to it's shitty demise? There's bound to be some pleasure in there. It's certainly better than the cold, empty nothingness of death.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 16:33:10 2015 No.6247034 >>6247016 >"I want to be eternally fucking hookers and taking LSD amirite?"

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 16:35:10 2015 No.6247041 >>6247034 Drugs have nothing to do with the eternal, that is modern hedonistic newage bullshit. And lets not even mention bodily pleasure

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 16:41:05 2015 No.6247065 >>6246587 4chan is a groupthink. Special snowflake is a meme used against people who don't conform to the anon lifestyle. It's by far the worst part of the site.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 16:42:39 2015 No.6247073 >>6245774 but in my present subjective experience, very little is forgotten. what will happen in a billion years, good or bad, is wholly irrelevant to me

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 16:43:40 2015 No.6247078 File: 25 KB, 300x300, 5968872.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6245825

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 16:45:39 2015 No.6247088 >>6247041 If you want to experience something eternal, you have to be alive, and eternally alive is an oxymoron

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