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>thus

>> No.6231920
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>space
>problematic
>intersectionality
>privilege

>> No.6231938

>wherefore

Actually that word is pretty legit nvm

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>>6231938
>mfw people think "wherefore" means "where"

>> No.6231965
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>be a grad student in mathematics
>regularly get to say the following:
>the following
>implying
>hence
>therefore
>thus
>clearly
>whence
>desired
>it can be seen that

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>the fact that

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>>6231965
>be a grad student in mathematics

>> No.6231979

>>6231920
>>>/pol/

>> No.6231984

>>6231978
He'll never find the Real, I bet. What an Oedipusal post-Freudian white privilege!

>> No.6231985

>>6231979
>being opposed to feminism now puts you in /pol/
Time to take your ritalin

>> No.6231992

>>6231985

Being opposed to feminism makes you an insecure manchild, so /pol/ would be a good fit yeah.

>> No.6231997

>>6231985
Yeah it does. It's funny that only cis white men are afraid of checking their privilege.

>> No.6231998

>>6231992
Sounds like you have terminal autism.

>> No.6232001

>>6231998

>projecting like a multiplex

>> No.6232016

>>6231998
MRA calling others autists. lel

>> No.6232023

>>6231998
Just get the fuck back to /pol/ already, your toxicity is starting to seep through.

>> No.6232031

>>6232016
>>6232023

>opposing feminism at all makes you an MRA
True autism. Reminder that the only female feminists are ugly girls, and the only male feminists are emasculated faggots desperate for female companionship ("If I go in support of their cause maybe one of them will mercy-fuck me!"). Laughing at you losers tbh.

>> No.6232038

>>6232031
>>>/pol/

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>>6232038
Why are you flailing your support for a female ideology on a nearly all-male website? Pretty pathetic that your feminism has penetrated that far into your psyche. No girls here, buddy, no need to act like you care about their troubles.

>> No.6232049

>>6232031
>autism
Are you using that to somehow discredit them? This haphazard trolling shows no signs of autism has "autism" lost all meaning?

In what way does using an MRA straw men argument make them autistic?

Stop using that word like that you faggot!

>> No.6232061

>>6232049
>has "autism" lost all meaning?

Way too late to be asking this, asshole.

>> No.6232076

>>6232061
what are you saying?

>> No.6232079

>>6232043
>men only prerend to care about other people
Sexism from anti-feminists isn't surprising, but why direct it against men?

>> No.6232218

>it was as if

>> No.6232223

>>6231992
Most people aren't opposed to feminism, most people are opposed to people who try to shoehorn their bullshit into places it dosen't belong.

>> No.6232229

YO MY NAMES DJ FAGGOT AND I GOT TWO THINGS TO SAY

ONE, IM 100% AFRICAN ASS COTTIN PICKIN GETTIN-LYNCHED-ASS NIGGA AND I DISAPPROVE OF LIBERAL WHITE FOLK ON TUMBLR TRYNA DEFEND MY RACE LIKE IT THEIR JOB LIKE NIGGA I NO U FEEL GUILTY FOR ENSLAVING MY ANCEATORS BUT U AINT GOTTA LET ME FUCK YO BITCH NAHM SAYIN LIKE US NIGGAS CAN PUT ON FOR OUR OWN PLEASE LEAVE US ALONE WHITE PEOPLE ALSO FEMININISM IS FUCKIN GAY AS HELL LMAO

TWO, I FORGOT WHAT I WANTED TO SAY LMAO SO ILL JUST SAY THERE AINT NOTHIN WRONG WITH HAVING AUTISM OR FUCKIN NIGGAS IN THEY ASS PEACE ON EARTH

>> No.6232232

>>6232223
>Most people aren't opposed to feminism

Is this literally your first day on 4chan, and have you even read this thread that you're posting in now?

>> No.6232297

>>6232232
He's right, you know.
Nobody argues legitimate feminism or it's core values, people are up in arms against radical figureheads like that red headed protester and Anita Sarkeesian. Of course there's a place for moderate feminism but predominantly male internet forum boards aren't it.

>> No.6232310

>>6232297
>predominantly male internet forum boards aren't it
I've read a bunch of sensible feminist discussions on /lit/.

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>and

>> No.6232328

>>6232310
Fair enough. I still don't think it's necessarily the best environment to be arguing it as there are always going to be people like >>6231985

>> No.6232364

>>6231985
>On left wing board
>Opposing feminism

>> No.6232371

>>6232364
Take your brocialist shaming elsewhere.

>> No.6232414

>>6232371
>Red herring
>Ad hominem
Someone has clearly never read a book on logical fallacies.

>> No.6232434

>>6232371
don't brosocialists hate feminism because muh class is more important

>> No.6232438

>>6231992
Define feminism.

>> No.6232460

>>6232434
yep
despite the fact that traditional class structures were reduced to formalities when Neoliberalism took off and class struggle has largely become a pathetic form of leftist LARPing.
The very concept of a revolutionary subject has lost even its fictional value when Capital knocked down the Tower of the Working Class and scattered its ranks across the four corners of the earth. There is no more Proletariat; Proletarianization reigns across the globe and prevails infinitely.

>> No.6232505

>>6232364
>Feminism
>Left Wing
>2015

Muh nonexistant female oppression.

>> No.6232510

>>6232505
Believe it or not, women are oppressed as are men in some circumstances.

>> No.6232517

>>6232510
Which circumstances?

>> No.6232520

>>6232510
No more so than anyone else. Constructive discourse on things like emancipating women from housework is virtually nonexistent. I think some of the last people to take such a project seriously were early Bolsheviks working with Lunacharsky. Beyond things like that gender specific issues are irrelevant.

>> No.6232533

>>6232505
Don't get it twisted, friend. The oppression is real, but not so much in any of the countries where feminists exist in large numbers.

>> No.6234327

>>6232232
4chan =/= most people, and even then the non-trolls don't actually want women to be treated as a lesser being or whatever. The fact that we're at a point where we're talking about how oppressed women because of their representation in fiction shows how far we've come (and how the goal posts have shifted).

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>There are other feminists in this thread
>On 4chan

Feels good wymang.

>> No.6235685

>>6232297

>Nobody argues legitimate feminism or it's core values

That's impossible, given that "legitimate feminism" is an empty expression.

>> No.6235698

>>6232232
Nigga please... It's just a vocal minority. I personally ignore the shit out of 99% of the misogyny threads because arguing with those people is like trying to convince fundamentalist religious people to become atheists.

I feel entirely confident that there are many, many people who do the same. Anyone care to agree/disagree?

>> No.6235707

>>6231992
It depends entirely on what you mean by feminism. It's such a fucked up term at this point that it can mean anything from egalitarianism to female supremacism.

It's been corrupted way beyond the point of no return.

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>>6235670

>> No.6235730

>>6235710
I don't watch Pretty Cure, it's just a reaction face. Even if I did, the fact that some random anti-sex feminist complained about it doesn't mean I give a shit.

>> No.6235733

>>6232297
How the hell is Anita Sarkeesian radical?

>> No.6235742

>>6235710
where is she seeing sexualization in that screencap?

I'd be worried about the animation quality, though. good Christ, look at that shit.

>> No.6235756

>>6235733
Of course she isn',t and I don't even have a clue as to why she's frequently brought up in regard to examples of feminism at all off of /v/ She's a niche feminist pop commentator and made manchildren massively buttpained about their toys being mainly manchild fantasies, but she's hardly relevant beyond that.

>> No.6235802

>>6235756
>She's a niche feminist pop commentator and made manchildren massively buttpained about their toys being mainly manchild fantasies
You know this isn't the case, she outright lies repeatedly, gets told everywhere but her videos' comments section, threatens herself with fresh accounts named dieanitasarkeesian etc and collects the victim dough.

>> No.6235839

>>6235802
A bloo bloo knew some manchild would get rustled. Who gives a fuck? We're talking about video games, here, it's worse than astrology fans.

>> No.6235850

I can't believe that this place is so left wing. I wish all of you could rot away in an isolated island.

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>>6235802
>You know this isn't the case

"Everyone already knows I'm correct, they just pretend not to agree because... reasons!"

Even if everything after this that you said is correct, it wouldn't ideologically make her a radical feminist in the slightest. AS is entry level pop feminism that seems to make up 99% of anti-feminist complaints on the web. It's literally the equivalent of a rabid creationist ranting on about Dawkins and never mentioning any other atheist.

>she outright lies repeatedly

What lies?

>gets told everywhere but her videos' comments section

She's not obligated to make her comments section a platform for misogynist manchildren, there's already /r/TheRedPill/ if you'd prefer that. Considering how hostile some of her opponents are, I don't blame her.

>threatens herself with fresh accounts named dieanitasarkeesian etc and collects the victim dough

"Come on guys, she doesn't really get death threats, that would make anti-feminists look bad. She just pretends to for money. We're not victim blamers, not at all!"

Considering how furious she seems to make anti-feminist gamers and how many other famous people I know get death threats, I wouldn't say this is a stretch at all. The grand conspiracies you people orchestrate to avoid admitting the simplest shit is just sad. I've personally gotten lurid descriptions from people who wanted me dead for being a feminist and I'm not even a woman. When I was an MRA the worst I ever got was "shitlord" or "asshole".

>> No.6235892

>>6235850
You right-wingers are always complaining about hugboxes, yet every time an opposing view pops up it's all you faggots cry for. 4chan has a large number of politically incorrect people because it's anonymous with few restrictions, not the other way around. You can always go to Vanguarg News Network if you'd prefer an echo chamber, until you get banned 3 months later for accusations of zionist shilling :^)

>> No.6235895

>>6231669
>>6231920
>>6231938
>>6231942
>>6231965
>>6231973

>using English

>> No.6235907

>>6235850
What would you expect from a literature board? It's a given that most of us are atleast semi-educated, and leftist views tend to follow not being an ignorant retard.

>> No.6235920

>>6235907
Leftist view in my country consist of "Lets waste away taxes on shit that will cripple our overall economy". My government keeps the lower class in check by giving them scraps and doesn't care about improving our situation, and does all of it on behalf of the so-called left wing, don't you fucking tell me that these persons are not supposed to be completely ignorants retards.

>> No.6235942

>>6235880

I'm completely anti-feminist, but I agree with this post for the most part. MRA's are embaressing, 50% of their platform could but cut out with nothing of value lost. Pointing out that female gender roles do bring benefits with them, that there are inequalities going in both directions, and that modern feminism is just factually wrong, is all they are really good for.

They are a reaction to tumblr feminism and thus they never move past it on intellectual terms.

Though it is true that feminists have been documented faking threats against them to make a case for their narrative. They have a really long track record of dishonesty when it comes to statistics, pretending like they are'nt the status quo and perpetuating the victim narrative.

>> No.6236019

>>6235920
What country are you from?

>Lets waste away taxes on shit that will cripple our overall economy

Since you're so vague you honestly don't seem like you have an actual education in economics. Conservatives love to ramble on about spending when moderate deficits are actually good for economic growth.

>My government keeps the lower class in check by giving them scraps and doesn't care about improving our situation, and does all of it on behalf of the so-called left wing

If you think the right wing will treat you any better, you have to be kidding. Besides that, how can you complain about spending one second and then being given mere "scraps" the next? Right wingers don't want to help you, they'll tell you you're just not pulling your bootstraps up hard enough and use it as an excuse to cut social services the public take for granted.

>don't you fucking tell me that these persons are not supposed to be completely ignorants retards

Maybe you don't have all the answers. Goddamn, you're mad.

>> No.6236350

>>6235850
This place is full of English majors who will need that gov money for the rest of eternity

>> No.6237324

>>6236019
Nicaragua.

I don't need to have an actual education in economics to know that spending million of dollars into buying chickens, building worthless public furniture in roundabouts, fueling their political propaganda by mass producing t-shirts and giving them away as some sort of charity, spending millions of dollars so that the public transport fee could stay at the same price for 10 years, (the list goes on believe me), is a terrible decision that doesn't benefit the national economy at all.

My government spends so much into promoting their self image, they love making shows out of every speech the presidents does. Politics is just a popularity contest over here.

>> No.6237708

>>6231992
/fit would be a good fit.

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>>6232364
>on anime imageboard
>reading books