/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.621259]

What do you think is the best written plot/story you've experienced that wasn't 'true' literature?

For example, films (that weren't based on books), TV shows, games, radio etc.

For me, probably either the Metal Gear Solid series or Lost or something.

[Anonymous No.621273]

Man, I cannot wait for Peace Walker. Fuck.

[Anonymous No.621274]

>best written story
>Lost

[Anonymous No.621277]

the big lebowski.

and a few other coen bros movies.

[Anonymous No.621279]

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>>621274
>Implying it's not a good plot

[Anonymous No.621291]

Bioshock was surprisingly good. I loved the (good) ending.

[Anonymous No.621296]

Planescape: Torment

[Anonymous No.621301]

Warhammer 40k.
Shitrocks by itself, but book series make it even better. Horus Heresy series and the Eisenhorn/Ravenor series are awesome, not to mention the entire Gaunt's Ghosts and Ciaphas Cain series.

The Ace Combat series has a neat overarching story to tell between all of its games, even if it's a bit hamfisted and unrealistic. Air power being the sole decisive factor in every war for 80 years? Yeah.

[Anonymous No.621308]

Planescape: Torment
Vampire: The Masquerade: Redemption
Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines
Indigo Prophecy (sort of)

[Anonymous No.621315]

I thought the plot to Avatar: The Last Airbender was incredibly well done. The characters grew and advanced naturally and the story was deep and mature. It was certainly better than a kids show had any right to be, and was frankly better penned than most 'real' TV shows.

[Anonymous No.621319]

I really don't know.
Most videogames I tend to play are freeform RPGs or strategy games.
From the line of movies, I'd say, I don't know, 12 Angry Men?

[Anonymous No.621320]

>>621308
Maybe if you're only talking about the first half of Indigo Prophecy. I did like Heavy Rain however.

[Anonymous No.621323]

>>621315

Sorry bro.

[Anonymous No.621329]

Its either Deus Ex, The longest journey, or Post mortem

[Anonymous No.621337]

Planescape Torment.
The Legacy of Kain series.

[Anonymous No.621340]

>>621323
Yeah you could do that with the movie avatar and the book dune too. A story is more about execution than it's base outline.

Avatar was done well pokemon was not.

[Anonymous No.621341]

TV: The Wire, The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Damages
Video Game: BioShock, maybe Knights of the Old Republic

[Anonymous No.621354]

>>621341
KotOR, nice.

A lot of people seem to forget the plot to the second, saying only the first is worth a penny. Frankly, I preferred the plot to The Sith Lords, what with Traya basically being a reincarnation of Nietzsche following you about.

[Anonymous No.621357]

I really like the show Sons of Anarchy. It's the best written thing on TV right now, although I don't know if it counts as it's based on Hamlet.

[Anonymous No.621372]

>>621354
Yeah, I'm just not a big fan of the whole 'Chosen One / Amnesiac Chosen One' type of story that KOTOR uses. Everything other than that was pretty good though.

[Anonymous No.621411]

Mother fucking Oldboy.

Based on a manga, so don't know if that counts - although the plot is rather different in the manga.

Consequently, the things that make the film great are the things that aren't in the manga.

[Anonymous No.621416]

Eragon is the greatest example of literature ever written.

[Anonymous No.621435]

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[Anonymous No.621478]

>>621291
I could post a name of certain author here. But I won't. Because I chose Rapture.

[Anonymous No.621606]

home alone

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[Anonymous No.621648]

Final Fantasy 7

[Anonymous No.621650]

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[Anonymous No.622742]

Gungrave. The story was excellent, and would have translated into literature perfectly.

[Anonymous No.622751]

Oh hell yes.

[Anonymous No.622761]

Haters gonna hate.

[Anonymous No.622767]

da wire

[Anonymous No.622769]

>>622751
What the hell movie is that? I know it only through pop-culture references.

[Anonymous No.622773]

>>622761
Best N64 Zelda. Anyone who disagrees is delusional.

[Anonymous No.622775]

>>621315
this i loved avatar: the last air bender and felt kind of bad.
i don't know why

[Anonymous No.622778]

>>621301 The Ace Combat series

i loved the poems about the demon that showed during the loading screens in ac5.

[Anonymous No.622785]

>>622769
It's not a movie. It was a TV series in the late 60s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner

Don't bother with the 2009 remake.

[Anonymous No.622786]

>>622761
It has a fucking timer. What the fuck?! Why do the japs always slap timers on things that would be perfectly fine without them. I mean, what the fuck?!

[Anonymous No.622791]

game: Metal Gear Solid
film: The Hidden Fortress
book: The Fifth Elephant

[Anonymous No.622795]

Phoenix Wright 3

[Anonymous No.622822]

>>621259

I thought MGS 3: Snakeater was the best so far. In the end, when you fight The Boss, then find out you've been playing as the original Big Boss the whole time...shit's so epic. Love how it all ties into the first one, especially.

[Anonymous No.622845]

>>621478

Ahhh yes, Rapture. Doomed to fail.

""The surety she has in her beliefs was fascinating," he [Ken Levine, head designer of Bioshock] said. "She almost spoke like a super villain, like Dr Doom."

[Anonymous No.622892]

Definitely Morrowind.
Granted, it might be cheating since much of the story and history is developed through the scores of in-game books.

[Anonymous No.622903]

>>622892
man i killed so many of those guards, they are wearing so much money

[Anonymous No.622913]

Just watched AntiChrist by Lars Von Trier. Feels Disturbing, Man. But it is my current pick for best story outside of literature (even though films are literature) (videogames not so much what is this fuckery? Is there a critical theory of videogames? well ffs there should be.)

[Anonymous No.622932]

I'd like to say Infinite Space, but it's based on Childhood's End.

[Anonymous No.622940]

Monster

[Anonymous No.622948]

>>622903
I got sick of selling it and started use their gear for stupid enchantments, including a pair of greaves that shot huge balls of fire. Each time I cast the spell, my friend would yell "!Mis pantalones hacen fuego!

[Anonymous No.622953]

>>622845

off topic: Man, everytime I see pics of Bioshock, or hear anything about it, I become mystified and instantly re-install. Then ten minutes later I remember why I loathed the game. That's why I finally broke the disc. No other game has so captivated me and then so let me down. Couldn't get anywhere near finishing it

on topic: System Shock the original, best plot in a game so far. Would've been fallout three, but too much blandness between events, too many of the same supermutants over and over

[Anonymous No.622971]

>>622953

Just curious, what made you hate it so much? Gameplay was decent enough, not mindblowing...but it gets progressively better.

Man, you should've finished it...ending is one of the best VG endings out there.

[Anonymous No.622975]

the movie Harvey

[Anonymous No.622978]

Shoujo Kakumei Utena. It's loosely connected to Hesse's Demian, but it's a special little creature all its own.

[Anonymous No.622979]

>>622892
I thought The Real Barenziah and A Dance in Fire were actually great fantasy books.

[Anonymous No.622986]

Assassin's creed. Take out the endless repetitive killings and you've got a solid story.

[Anonymous No.622987]

>>622986
I don't really remember the story of the first game but AC2 seemed a lot like The Da Vinci Code.

[Anonymous No.622993]

Lost. HGH

[Anonymous No.622998]

Couple of people have mentioned the Wire, but I think that Oz has to be the best HBO series of all time, perhaps even the best TV series of all time.

[Anonymous No.623009]

>>621315 totally agree.
Ico and Shadow of the Colossus. I don't know if I'd exactly say they had a great story, although they had perfect, simple stories. Just everything about those games oozed beauty, a brilliant example of what video games can do that other mediums cant.
Also Baldur's Gate 2, Metroid Prime (if you payed attention), Odin Sphere, Okami, and, as everyone keeps saying, MGS3. With MGS3 the plot on the whole is kind of silly, but that fucking ending. Such an emotional gut punch. Fucking making you pull the trigger too. So damn well done.

[Anonymous No.623073]

Avatar hands down.

[Anonymous No.623075]

>>622998

I would agree if it weren't for the aging pills

Seriously, fucking stupid

[Anonymous No.623082]

>>623075
>Aging pills
Oh fuck you, why did you have to remind me of that bullshit?

[Anonymous No.623086]

>>622998
Oz got very melodramatic. I'd have to give the torch to Deadwood, which only gets better with each reviewing.

[Anonymous No.623087]

>>621274

Dude. Lost had us all on the edge of our seats for the entire first season wondering what was down a fucking hole. That's good writing. Maybe not the 'best written' of anything that wasn't true literature, but still.

I'll go ahead and second OP's comment about MGS though. I've never had a video game that's ever had me that emotionally involved. Though I do seem to be in the minority here because most bookfags don't play video games and most video gamers are all 'BORING CUTSCENES R BORING I WANT 2 SHOOT AN ALIEN ALKJWELFJWE'

[Anonymous No.623110]

>>623075

didn't read the thread, but LOL OZ.

For all of Tom Fontana's fine work, the decision to OK that particular storyline will forever cast a shadow on his career.

[Anonymous No.623127]

Would it be bad if I said I didn't mind the aging pill? Sure, it was stupid, but it didn't ACTUALLY have any effect, and it isn't too hard to believe that it would cause temporary aesthetic effects.

[Anonymous No.623200]

Sunset Limited-Cormac McCarthy

[Anonymous No.623201]

Rome was pretty good.

[Anonymous No.623207]

I enjoyed Twin Peaks' plot, It was like a bizarre soap opera.

[Anonymous No.623214]

>>622940
This.

[Anonymous No.623217]

>MGS
>Good Storytelling
>laughingwomen.jpg

Stop sucking Kojima's cock, OP.

[Anonymous No.623228]

For some reason I really liked the plot in "Prince of Persia - The Two Thrones"

[Anonymous No.623241]

>>622751
This.

[Anonymous No.623250]

Grandia 2's plot was great, gotta kill the pope cause he became satan lol

[Anonymous No.623257]

Deus Ex

[Anonymous No.623276]

>>623214
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[Anonymous No.623286]

>>622761

I actually gotta agree with this. I loved all the characters.

[Anonymous No.623545]

>>622971

see Yahtzee's review? Everything in the story was way too boring and predictable. And for the world I think I have an uncanny valley problem - so close to real it needed to be real to pass. Creepy, but not in a good way. Things like bedrooms were missing, there was nowhere people could've actually *lived*, which given the detail in other areas let the game down. Either less, like older games, or go all out, like fallout three did. Sure, the houses were all samey and boring, but at least they were there. Even then there was stuff missing, but the devastation and desolation managed to cover for it better, mb?

[Anonymous No.623548]

>>623276
I would agree if the ending weren't so disappointing. Everything up till then was genius though.

[Anonymous No.623568]

>>623073

Don't you mean Pocahontas? I mean you can't say Avatar had great writing when the story is so obviously and completely ripped off

[Anonymous No.623574]

Grim Fandango, hands down. Definitely influenced me as a storyteller.

[Anonymous No.623615]

Deus Ex/ KotOR/ Mass Effect series.

[Anonymous No.623655]

How I Met Your Mother - hands down

[Sarin !!QJ932Q04vs3 No.623658]

>>623214
This.

As for video games, Vagrant Story.

[Anonymous No.624093]

>>623568
I think he meant avatar the last airbender.

[Anonymous No.624221]

>>623214

Probably the best-written manga out there, al
though it could have done with some trimming.

[Anonymous No.624230]

Neon Genesis Evangelion

[Anonymous No.624315]

Probably... Riket maybe?

[Anonymous No.624330]

The Wire

[Anonymous No.624348]

Waiting For Godot

[Anonymous No.624392]

I am of the opinion that there is a large number of examples of 'low culture' mediums that hold genuine merit. Of course, there's a lot of trash, but there are a lot of bad books, too. I don't know about the 'best', but recently I watched Paranoia Agent; an anime, and found the plot innovative, original and gripping. Moreover, it was a plot that would not have suited a book, or perhaps even a live-action film or television show.

[Anonymous No.624406]

Seconding Evangelion; the perfect balance between giant robot awesomeness and a geniunely serious and gripping storyline loaded with symbolism and -admittedtly somewhat angsty - drama.

[Anonymous No.624455]

>films

Are there really people who still don't believe that film is an art that can be on par with literature? Whatever. If you genuinely aren't a believer, you should try watching some films by Akira Kurosawa, Ingmar Bergman, Luis Buñuel, Keni Mizoguchi, Jean Renoir, Krzysztof Kieslowski, Alfred Hitchcock, Fritz Lang, John Ford, Billy Wilder, Charlie Chaplin, Buster Keaton, the list goes on and on.

[Anonymous No.624461]

Taxi Driver

[Anonymous No.624775]

Silent Hill.

[Anonymous No.624782]

Do graphic novels not count as 'true' literature?

Because if thats the case, gonna have to throw Watchmen in there.

[The Sound and the Fury !!ryNUDThtPTn No.624792]

Kara no Kyoukai ~ The Garden of Sinners

[Anonymous No.624804]

Cave Story i guess could be most akin to a short story. It left me wanting more and I thought the characters were pretty cool. It wasn't amazing, but its something I did recently and it was really fun.

Also, the rapper Common is a pretty great lyricist.

[Anonymous No.624810]

>>624792
>>624792
Seconding this.

[Anonymous No.625062]

Twilight

[Anonymous No.626159]

>>623217
>Clearly cannot appreciate a fantastic story

>>622822
I never realised that the fact you play as him was ever a 'secret'. I knew from the offset - I assumed everyone did?

[Anonymous No.626216]

>>624782
As much as I'm sure everyone here would disagree because they're fucking e/lit/ists, graphic novels do count as literature. That's not me trying to defend 'comics', it's just that 'literature' is a broad term; Hell, even non-fiction books count as literature.

But even if it doesn't, Watchmen is still a work of genius.

[Anonymous No.626223]

>>621274
>Implying that Op wasn't just trying to create a decent example so retards like you wouldn't post something off topic.

[Anonymous No.626241]

>>626216
Oh completely.

That's one reason I like comics, because they're pretty much literature in it's bare essentials (plot, dialogue, thought, monologue, character). And I really liked V for Vendetta, and quite a few Batman comics (Once you get past the caped crusader thing, some are pretty well written). And a lot of 'indie' comics are interesting, like "Ghost World".

[Anonymous No.626258]

>>623214
this is correct.

[Anonymous No.626311]

>>623574
That game was kickass.
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For me, it'd probably be something like Cowboy Bebop, or Grim Fandago.

[Ace Rand !Hd0MadUVkQ No.626346]

STALKER has a rather good plot, however subtle it is.