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Is there any reason for anybody that doesn't live in or aspire to live in a communist country to read Marx?

>> No.6186718

>reason

go read Marx pleb

>> No.6186723

>>6186712
Marxists don't aspire to live in a communist country, they aspire to abolish all countries. See, there's one reason for reading Marx: you'd have known that.

>> No.6186733

>>6186723
All countries abolished leaves one country.

>> No.6186739

nope

>> No.6186742

>>6186739
>>6186733

>> No.6186756

country
noun
a nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory.

abolish
verb
formally put an end to (a system, practice, or institution).

countr(ies) put an end to either results in countr(y) with government or no countr(y) with government (in which case it wouldnt be communism)

Marxists aren't anarchists you fucking faggot. Next time you try to post a pedantic retort use your brain first

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>>6186733
Haha.

Statists.

>> No.6186935

>>6186756
>no countr(y) with government (in which case it wouldnt be communism)
The differentce between communists and anarchists isn't that communists don't want a stateless society, it's that communists want to get there via a transitory stage called the dictatorship of the proletariat. If you had read marx, you'd known that, too.

>> No.6186945

>>6186935
get where?

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>>6186945

>> No.6186949

>>6186945
To the class- and stateless stage called communism.

>> No.6186963

>>6186949
you just said they didnt want a stateless society

>> No.6186967

>>6186963
No, I said they are no different to anarchists in that regard.

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>>6186963

>> No.6186982

>>6186967
>there is a difference between anarchism and communism
>the difference isnt that [communists don't want a stateless] society
>the difference between anarchism and communism is that [communists want to get to the classless and stateless] stage via a transitory stage called the dictatorship of the proleterait

>> No.6187003

>>6186982
Yeah, that's what I said, with some brackety shit thrown in?

>> No.6187011

>>6187003
to emphasize where you contradicted yourself

>> No.6187023

>>6187011
Wow, you fail at being autistic, that's quite impressive. It would only be a contradiction if anarchists didn't want a stateless society, because only then could communists not want a stateless society without that being the difference to anarchism.

>> No.6187030

>>6187023
let me help you

>the difference isnt that [communists don't want a stateless] society
>>communists DO NOT want a stateless society

he difference between anarchism and communism is that [communists want to get to the classless and stateless] stage via a transitory stage called the dictatorship of the proleterait
>>communists WANT to be stateless

>> No.6187047

>>6187030
That first implication is only there because of the brackets, which you added, and leaving out the thing to which communism is different, anarchism.
I'm not saying that you are retarded, but
>I'm not saying that [you are retarded]
Oh shit

>> No.6187053

>>6187047
what is contained within the brackets are propositions you are stating to be true regardless of the negative which precedes it

>> No.6187060

>>6187053
Exactly, which is why we can infer from me stating that I'm not saying you're retarded, that you are retarded. Brackets, fucking magic!

>> No.6187067

>>6187060
your statement is a terrible analogical inference due to 'im not saying' necessarily entailing a contradiction. try again goober

>> No.6187072

>>6186712
Yes, Marx and Engels were great writers. Anyway, it's important to be familiar with important works and ideas regardless of whether you agree with their conclusions.

>> No.6187073

>>6187072
important to who

>> No.6187075

>>6187067
>necessarily entailing a contradiction
guess what, so did my statement about what the difference between communism and anarchism isn't.

>> No.6187077

>>6187075
no it doesnt

>> No.6187091

>>6187077
Yes it does.

>> No.6187092

>>6187091
ok :)

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>> No.6187101

>>6187098
nice url ;)