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ITT: People who left the world in a worse place with their writing, no matter how direct or not

>> No.6185760

Adolf Nietzche

>> No.6185805

Karl Marx

the guy who performed sinners in the hands of an angry god

>> No.6185990

>>6185752
how?

>> No.6186000

well tell us the standards for what makes the world "worse" first

>> No.6186031

>>6185752
Jesus/Paul etc.

Shit thread.

>>6185990
It's all just going to be shit opinions or gags

>> No.6186090

booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooobs

>> No.6186103

>>6186031

>It's all just going to be shit opinions

Well at least you're self-aware.

>> No.6186106

>>6186103
this, honestly

>> No.6186127

>>6186103
fucking rekt

>> No.6188009

Ayn Rand

Talk about a senseless woman...

>> No.6188872

>>6185752
Ayn Rand

>> No.6188885
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>> No.6188893

>>6188885
Man chose sin you fucking retard.

>> No.6188897

>>6188893
Only because God made him without that axiom.

>> No.6188924

>>6188897
Not that guy, but please explain

>> No.6188948

>>6188897
The possibility of sin is the only way for us to not be robots to love and serve god. Choosing something is a lot more powerful than literally having to do it. Man was created with curiosity and therefor the potential for evil. Because of this, choosing to do good and avoiding sin is made something up to us. The people who don't want God are not forced to be with him (that is how much he loves us!) and the people who want him are free to have him. Do you see the beauty in it, anon?

>> No.6188962

>>6188948
>The people who don't want God are not forced to be with him
So the threat of eternal damnation doesnt strike you as "forcible"?
I just took your bait, didnt I?

>> No.6188975

Focault.
Sarte.
Hitler.
Whoever wrote the Qaran.

>> No.6188976

>>6188962

hell is modernly just defined as "where god isn't"

so a hellish afterlife might be like the inferno, it might not, life can be hellish, it might not, but it is by choice that you wish to distance yourself from god and go "where god isn't", whatever such a place may entail

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>>6188893
>Trying to make sense of ancient sandpeople farmer logic created so that slaves and the general pleb populace would be more complacent and accepting of their circumstances

>> No.6189021

>>6188976
>modernly defined
So you mean revised and rewritten for the umpteenth time to make it hip with the kids?

>> No.6189048

>>6188975
but, God wrote the Qaran

>> No.6189262

>>6189021
Hell is eternal torment because you're separated from the source of all love. It's not exactly that you're sent there, as the illustrative language implies, it's that you chose to not accept freely given love even when faced with the eternity of afterlife.

>> No.6189308

>>6188975
But the Qur'an is easily the best Abrahamic scripture, though, and its influence produced directly and indirectly the best of the Abrahamic, Western, and Middle-Eastern traditions.

>> No.6189413

>>6189262
Yeah, We've seen god's idea of love. Pass.

>> No.6189424

>>6186103
Kek

>> No.6189436

>>6189413
Reddit general?

>> No.6189457

>>6189262

I don't look to the external for "love".

>> No.6189465

>>6189413

kek.

>> No.6189500

Hegel, Marx, Nietzsche

>> No.6189505

>>6189436
Your whole phraseology, which I guess works on those who buy into "Illustrative Language" wither they want to or not, is the result of the fact that god can call anything love, and it remains "love" regardless of wither humans consider it so, they are free however to liken it to whatever their extant idea of love is, also.

>> No.6189536

>>6189505
>wither

Ah! A fellow Redditor! Tis a fine sight to see!

>> No.6189656

>>6189505
That's not incorrect. The love of God also ignites the fires of hell, so divine love is certainly different than, say, familial love. It's a love so strong that to ignore it or deny it is painful.

>> No.6189717

Whitman? Really? He was the only good thing to come of that movement. If anything, that knucklehead Thoreau is the prime candidate.

>> No.6189812

>>6189656
It also means you can never honestly say god is loving to any other human and not be lying to them.