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Why does nobody look like the archetypal depiction of ancient greeks anymore? The small mouths, very prominant greek noses, I just don't see any faces like this anymore, these statues look inhuman. Did people back then really look like this?

Is there no such thing as a pureblooded greek anymore? Could that be why?

I figured you guys would know more about history than any other board.

>> No.6172851
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>>6172842
>this
But in statue form. Those were idealisations, not depictions of reality.

>> No.6172856

>>6172842
the greeks were reptiles

>> No.6172859
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>>6172851
Wait, why would these features be "ideals"?

And why would it be prominant across all depictions of people back then?

>> No.6172880

>>6172859
The small mouth/prominent nose combination connotes intelligence and nobility.

Source: I have a small mouth and prominent nose.

>> No.6172907

I've been told I look like david, its not impossible OP

>> No.6172915

>>6172907
pics or stfu

>> No.6172917
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>>6172842
I do though

>> No.6172919

>>6172859
>Wait, why would these features be "ideals"?

just because thats what people liked back then.
Same as nowdays.

Some things like height matter, most everything else is cultural no sjw
if your friends like chubby girls you are much more likely to like chubby girls

If enough of this shit happens you get an aesthetic zeitgeist.

and then again it can change over time.

>> No.6172924

how did greeks get so ripped? what did their gymnastics consist of? not weightlifting.

>> No.6172925
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Simon Nessman

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>>6172925

>> No.6172931

>>6172925
>>6172928
nope

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>>6172915
fine then

>> No.6172936

>>6172925
nosebridge not prominant enough

>> No.6172937
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>>6172931
he is literally marketed as looking like a greek statue

>> No.6172942

>>6172924

Supposedly many of the models for the statues were also young apprentices who worked in marble quarries, so lifting small blocks of marble and pushing big ass blocks on rollers. Hoisting ropes.

and general chores around that time were more physical.

Its a nice look: not too heavy in arms and shoulders, well developed everywhere with an emphasis on back.

I've also heard people rowed with their friends for fun/relaxation. Kinda like hitting the gym with your bros.

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>>6172934
oh shit wrong image>>6172934

>> No.6172947

>>6172944
you would look a lot better if you trimmed up your sides

>> No.6172952

>>6172947
yeah probably, but everyone has that haircut and I'm satisfied with the influx of poon so whatever.

>> No.6172956

>>6172952
its not about getting 'that' haircut, its about getting a haircut to suit your head shape

shorter sides would look a lot better on you

>> No.6172958

>>6172944
i don`t see it but not bad. interesting head shape and features

>> No.6172959

>>6172956
oh I thought you meant like a hitler youth type thing, fair enough dude.

>> No.6172960

>>6172947
Don't tell him that. That stupid Hitler youth style that's been in vogue for the last I don't know how many years is as pleb as you can get.

>> No.6172961

>>6172842
That sculpture is Italian, not Greek.

>> No.6172963

>>6172961
but that's wrong anon

>> No.6172965

>>6172944
wow you do look like David

>> No.6172966

>>6172958
when my hair gets long it gets really curly

>> No.6172970

>>6172960
im not talking hy

>> No.6172973

>>6172970
Yeah, I read your post after I made mine. A trim on the sides would better suit his head shape, so long as it's not the Hitler youth.

>> No.6172977

>>6172963
Oh, I must have been mistaken. Of course it was crafted by Michelangelo, the great Greek sculptor of Renaissance Greece.

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Why does nobody look like the archetypical depiction of modern japanese anymore? The small mouths, nonexistent noses, enormous crystal-like eyes, I just don't see any faces like this anymore, these cartoons look inhuman. Do people right now really look like this?

Is there no such thing as a pureblooded japanese aymore? Could that be why?

I figured you guys would know more about weaboo shit than any other board.

>> No.6172983

>>6172928
>>6172925
Jesus christ, anon, that nose looks nothing like a Greek nose, it's just the opposite

>> No.6172986

>>6172977
Michaelangelo's David sculpture was inspired by the sculptures of ancient greek mythology. Read up. There's a reason he was depicted with legendary greek features.

>> No.6172991

The Greeks committed genetic suicide, the same way the Romans did and the way WASPs are now

Races that flew too close to the sun

>> No.6173001

>>6172986
I am aware. It was probably inspired by Roman sculptures, which were inspired by Greek sculpture.

But that doesn't make it David Greek. It was done in Italy, by an Italian artist taught by an Italian master, both living more thousand years after the fall of ancient Greece.

>> No.6173012

>>6173001
The point isn't that it's david, it's that it is depicting what greeks showcased themselves as. David's real ethnicity doesn't matter because it's not inspired by how david actually looked.

>> No.6173020

The statues were a lie, they represent highly idealised forms
The proportions they exhibit do not exist in reality

>> No.6173023

>>6172842
That statue of David is renaissance and sculpted that way because of the exaggerated perspective making him like 11' causes for the viewer from below and above. It's to make his expression different from the perspective of man and giant.

>> No.6173025

>>6173023
>read this sentence 3 times
>still cant understand

please

>> No.6173031

>>6173025
Looking down on David from above like a giant, David looks scurred.
Looking up at David as a museum goer/mortal, he looks heroic.
It's a trick.

>> No.6173032

>>6173031
What does that have to do with his features being crafted like an ancient greek hero

>> No.6173035

>>6173032
They aren't. They purposefully distorted to create the dual expression. They're all out of proportion, but appear in proportion from certain perspectives.

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>>6172842
>prominent nose
>small mouth

B-but my parents told me I was scotch-Sicilian!

>> No.6173040

The greek statues look slavic to me

>> No.6173076

>>6173039

This is the best scene in motion picture history

>> No.6173082

>>6173040
where are you from

>> No.6173110

>>6172937
He's marketed as such because most people don't know exactly what a Greek statue looks like. He may look statuesque but not Greek-statuesque. His nose bridge isn't prominent enough and he overall looks a bit too boyish.

>> No.6173111

>>6172924
They invented weightlifting

>> No.6173245

>>6172934
how can one not love this image?

>> No.6173418

>>6172842
>Why does nobody look like the archetypal depiction of ancient greeks anymore?

Dysgenics

>> No.6173534

>>6172842
>Muh degeneracy
1. Not /lit/
2. Bullshit, there are people who look like this
3. Why not in Greece? Guess what, things change, people die and new ones are born.
4. There has never been such a thing as a "pure blooded" Greek.

Sage

>> No.6173960

>>6172919
The "beauty is relative" thing is half-true but there are still a remarkable number of qualities that are prized universally:

- Symmetry.
- Clear, blemish-free skin.
- White teeth.
- Broad shoulders and tall height in men.
- Broad hips, relative to waist size, in women.
- Certain facial proportions such as distance between eyes, nose length, forehead size, etc.

>> No.6173968

the Greek gene pool has been corrupted quite a bit since the days of Homer.

>> No.6174140

>>6172925
baby face

>> No.6174148

>>6172937
So, he has a pencil-dick?

>> No.6174155

>>6173960
>- White teeth.

Source?

>> No.6174177

>>6173960

>white teeth

Not necessarily. For centuries it was considered attractive for Japanese women to dye their teeth black.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohaguro

>> No.6174181

>>6174177
Same during the sugar craze in Queen Elizabeth I's court

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>>6172981
I like this post

>> No.6174223

>>6172942

They fucking loved to workout and doing sports. It was exactly like hitting the gym, as gymnasium is from ancient Greek. Don't chime in if your clueless idiot.

>> No.6174226

>>6172842
Le test

>> No.6174255

>>6172842
I'm a Greek and I've got both a small mouth and a prominent straight nose. I know lots of Greeks who do too.

>> No.6174263

>>6173039
>Sicilian
>Thinking you're not Greek

>> No.6174267

Nobody has freakish hands and feet either.

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>>6172842
>>6172937

Plenty of people do.

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>>6174287

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>>6174289

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>>6174294