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Anonymous Tue Feb 17 01:54:14 2015 No.6153924 [Reply] [Original]

what is the best translation?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 01:55:33 2015 No.6153929 >>6153924 >translation

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 07:26:04 2015 No.6154545 >>6153924 Google it

>>	« 零 » !Ry9.FWKNDY Tue Feb 17 07:35:45 2015 No.6154560 File: 22 KB, 330x330, JM FACEZOOM II.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] LEARN RUSSIAN, OR DO NOT READ IT AT ALL.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 07:44:23 2015 No.6154580 File: 81 KB, 612x612, laff_masks.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6153924 >he reads for plot

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 07:50:21 2015 No.6154590 File: 43 KB, 320x296, 1423458853476.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6154580 >he reads

Anonymous Tue Feb 17 08:09:35 2015 No.6154632

>>6153924
I'm glad you asked. I'm kind of a connoisseur of The Master and Margarita. I've read it no less than 26 times and learned russian (both the common language and the dialect spoken in Bulgakov's village) for the sole purpose of basking in its pure, unpolluted glory.

The best translation is without a doubt the finnish one made in 1973 by professor Alfhilta Jyrki. But despite the vague wording of your post, I believe you were asking for the best ENGLISH translation, my friend. Fear not, I've got you covered. ;)

The best ENGLISH ( ;) ) translation is certainly the one bby Mirra Ginsburg made in 1967.

I hope my expertise was useful to a fellow traveler on the road to literary enlightenment. :)

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 09:08:21 2015 No.6154731 File: 7 KB, 172x200, Gt+a+black+ancestor+wow++_94d8d02a8a5ceac3d4c9fca453f522b6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6154590 >he

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 12:31:16 2015 No.6155166 I read P&V and the translation felt far too literal at the expense of readability, except for some nice descriptive passages for some reason.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 20:20:46 2015 No.6156531 File: 71 KB, 600x656, 1420677033208.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6154632

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 20:24:37 2015 No.6156544 File: 52 KB, 350x429, rodina2[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6154632 >Bulgakov's village >village Мocкaлів – нa нoжі! нa нoжі! нa нoжі!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 20:27:20 2015 No.6156558 File: 52 KB, 350x429, rodina2[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6154632 Мocкaлів – нa нoжі! нa нoжі! нa нoжі!

Anonymous Tue Feb 17 20:33:12 2015 No.6156577 [DELETED]

>>6153924
Ask the Russians on 2ch hk /bo/
Most translations are shit anyway because they are written by anglophone college educated narcissists who do not give a flying fuck about the Russian language and culture beyond what they have learnt in their ivory towers and based on that superficial knowledge they add their own profound interpretations and oftentimes miss the point.
The only passable translations I have seen are those by Nabokov. P&V is garbage. They pride themselves with having a native speaker in the pack but she doesn't seem too bright. Must be a mailorder bride of some sort.
>>6154632
The redditors actually downvote you for providing best translations which are into MUH MURICAN. Morons.

Anonymous Tue Feb 17 20:38:54 2015 No.6156606
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>>6156558
clarification: that's what you get for calling the Ukrainian language a village dialect of Russian. We will cut you up real bad, you dirty piece of Jewish-Muscowite mafia.

Anonymous Tue Feb 17 20:40:03 2015 No.6156609

>>6153924
Ask the Russians on 2ch hk /bo/
Most translations are shit anyway because they are written by anglophone college educated narcissists who do not give a flying fuck about the Russian language and culture beyond what they have learnt in their ivory towers and based on that superficial knowledge they add their own profound interpretations and oftentimes miss the point.
The only passable translations I have seen are those by Nabokov. P&V is garbage. They pride themselves with having a native speaker in the pack but she doesn't seem too bright. Must be a mailorder bride of some sort.
>>6154632
The redditors actually downvote you for providing best translations which are not into MUH MURICAN. Morons.

Anonymous Tue Feb 17 20:45:30 2015 No.6156630

>>6154632
>I'm glad you asked. I'm kind of a connoisseur of The Master and Margarita. I've read it no less than 26 times and learned russian (both the common language and the dialect spoken in Bulgakov's village) for the sole purpose of basking in its pure, unpolluted glory.

i would post a reactionary inane tips fedora but i'm actually impressed m8.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 20:47:35 2015 No.6156638 File: 42 KB, 479x720, 1380697092809.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6154632

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 20:47:56 2015 No.6156640 I read the Burgin/O'Connor one and I wasn't crazy about the book, no idea how much of that comes from the translation. But shit like this >>6154632, even if it's semi-ironic or exaggerated, is what makes /lit/ a worthwhile board.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 20:52:54 2015 No.6156657 >>6154632 >being this patrician

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 20:57:08 2015 No.6156671 File: 284 KB, 1161x869, use-for-blog.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6154632 memes aside 26 times is an achievement albeit a borderline autistic obsession

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 20:58:14 2015 No.6156673 >>6156609 >Must be a mailorder bride of some sort. I think you're on to something

Anonymous Tue Feb 17 20:58:35 2015 No.6156674

>>6154632
This is a good post and people who are calling this shit pretentious are awful

oh no someone unironically shared their enthusiasm about something

THEY MUST BE FAKE BECAUSE I'M FAKE AND I'M PROJECTING ABLOO BLOO BLOO

god you people are fucking trash

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 21:01:58 2015 No.6156681 >>6156674 i believe some of it is ironic piss taking le anti-intellectual hat maymay xd

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 21:03:54 2015 No.6156687 >>6154632 >google Alfhilta Jyrki >this thread is literally the only result on the entire surface web

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 21:17:35 2015 No.6156741 >>6153924 Ginsburg according to Amazon.

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