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Are there any good books about drugs/written while under influence of drugs. I'm looking especially for books on psychedelics
pic related.

>reading huxley

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>>6151214

Storming Heaven will tell you everything you need to know.

>> No.6151260

>written while under influence of drugs

INTERVIEWER

Do you use LSD or other drugs when you sit down to write?

KESEY

It’s impossible for me to write on LSD—there are more important things to think about. Hunter Thompson can do it, but I can’t. It’s like diving down to look at coral reefs. You can’t write about what you’ve seen until you’re back up in the boat. Almost every writer I know drinks to ease the burden of being out on the cliffs, so to speak. But writing under the influence of drugs is a little like a plumber trying to fix the pipes without being able to work the wrench.

I did write the first several pages of Cuckoo’s Nest on peyote and I changed very little of it. It had little effect on the plot but the mood and particularly the voice in those first few pages remained throughout the book. There were also some sections of Sometimes a Great Notion written when I was taking mushrooms. Again, the effect is more on mood and voice than on vision. But for the most part, I don’t write under the influence of LSD or other drugs.

INTERVIEWER

Do you take notes when you use LSD or other hallucinogens?

KESEY

Yes, sometimes I use a little tape recorder for notes. There’s often a big difference between what you think you wrote under the influence and what you actually recorded. One time a friend of mine and I were taking LSD and thought we had written “The History and Future of the Universe.” What we actually wrote down was something on the order of “if you pick your nose long enough the world will unravel.” But often when I am taking LSD, there is an accessing of a universal pool of images, forms that I often find, for example, in Indian art. By the time I started taking peyote and LSD, I had already done a great deal of reading about mysticism—the Bhagavad Gita and Zen and Christian mystical texts. They helped me to interpret what I was seeing, to give it meaning. You don’t just take the stuff and expect understanding. It’s also important not to be in a hellish place with LSD or it can be a hellish experience. You need to be in a secure setting.

INTERVIEWER

Do any of the visions you have using LSD get translated into your writing?

KESEY

I’m fond of computer analogies. There are visions written on those programs that are hard to access or convert to the writing programs. I like to take it mostly for the spiritual experience.

INTERVIEWER

Do you recommend LSD as a tool for writing?

KESEY

No.

>> No.6151425

>>6151260
>Almost every writer I know drinks to ease the burden of being out on the cliffs
Oh yeah, being paid to literally do nothing is _such_ a burden, I totally feel your pain, hipster dude.

>> No.6151534

>>6151425
what is wrong with you

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>>6151214
I took 70 ug LSD this morning, I struggled to convince myself that i'm not going out of my body.i freaked out a bit
but no one noticed. =D

>> No.6151666

>>6151664
>70ug

lmfao, less than half a hit?

>> No.6151685

>>6151666
100ug is a hit of acid for most people

>> No.6151703

>>6151214
Yeahm anything by Philip K Dick, there is no other like him.

>> No.6151710

>>6151214
Can you explain why you want this?

>> No.6151715

>>6151664
only 70ug? jesus christ you are a pussy. stop posting

>> No.6151769

Ernst Junger has a book about his experiences with drugs called Approaches, but I'm not sure if you can find an English translation yet. He tripped with Albert Hoffman, the original synthesizer of LSD, a few times.

http://www.psychedelic-library.org/child7.htm

>> No.6151812

>>6151715
>>6151666
Shut up fags I was in the university walking/talking with human beans^^ you know

>> No.6151817

>The Spirit Molecule
>Food of the Gods
>Inherent Vice
>Screw-Jack
>The Toy Collector
>Perfect Sunshine
Peripheral:
>The Holographic Universe
>David Icke schizophrenia

>> No.6151837

Ghost Boy

its a modern classic

>> No.6151869

>>6151715
>>6151685
>>6151666
>>6151664
no one knows what dosage they're taking. yeah let me just get out my microgram scale ...

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>>6151214
önemli değil

>> No.6151973

>>6151869
b-but you can guess it by the side effects.

>> No.6152416

>>6151685
more like 150ug, 125 mics on the lower end
back in the 60s i think the "standard" dose was like 200ish per blotter and more pure

>>6151869
i mean, you could know in theory. likely if it's street "acid", it isn't even lsd anyway, but you could get an approximation

>>6151973
obviously if it's under a certain threshold it would produce no effects, so it would have to be under that, and i guess you could guess by the effects/experience if you have past experiences to reference (ie. shulgin's plus one, two, three, etc)

>> No.6152436

OP read Island by Huxley its better then TDOP

>> No.6152578

>>6151214
If you just so happen to read French, read Nouvelles sous Ecstasy ("Short stories on ecstasy") by Frederic Beigbeder, published in 2000.

>> No.6152597

Ever heard of a little book called Gravity's Rainbow?

>> No.6152651

>>6152416
back in the sandoz days you could know how many mikes you were taking. after that, it's basement chemists making guesses from hearsay or remembered lab-measured trips. there's no good way to measure out micrograms. with liquid, how big is that drop? with paper, how long did they touch it to the liquid. etc etc. and no one's going to take the time to run analysis on street acid to find out.

the shulgin plus scale is better but it's subjective. my tolerance has gone up over the years. my current "go for it" dosage of cubensis is 3 eighths because 1 eighth is weak and two is good.

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>>6151214
Food of the Gods is a decent book. The first half is mostly psychedelics.

>> No.6152743

>>6152651
yeah sandoz with hofmann and then chemists in the 60s and 70s like owsley producing street lsd. they were still complexing lsd the same way people lay it to blotter now a days for the most part. there are a few different ways to synthesize it and different purities, i think orange sunshine was some of the most pure street lsd back in the day

mushrooms are even worse. you don't know how much psilocybin/psilocin/baeocysin/norbaeocystin is in different cultures. one eighth of p. cubensis will vary from another eighth of p. cubensis. tolerance goes away. if you aren't tripping frequently, you really shouldn't have a tolerance when you're going to have a psychedelic experience, and tripping all the time takes away from it.

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>>6151231
Very nice collection, i'm jealous

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>>6153000
I have more plant and mushroom books around
and a bunch in my amazon wishlist i'm gonna buy when i get my tax return

>> No.6153114

>>6153099
oh and that organic chemistry book is the same edition sasha shulgin used to study chemistry in the navy

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>> No.6153672

The electric kool-aid acid test

>> No.6154872

>>6151425
>completely missing the analogy

Do you even read?