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How do I into Derrida?

>> No.6146513

>>6146512
trust me, you don't need to

>> No.6146519
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6146519

Step 1: buy a crack pipe and crack
Step 2: smoke it
Step 3: experience the différence

>> No.6146520

>>6146513
Why's that?

>> No.6146576

>>6146512
read levi-strauss, sassure, Nietzsche, rousseau, heidegger, freud, husserl, marx, levinas...

>> No.6146584

>>6146520
he just spouted bullshit. Check out Analytic philosophy instead. c'mon, don't be retarded son.

>> No.6146596

>>6146584
le analytic master race

>> No.6146659

>>6146596
damn straight, fuck off with your pseudophilosophy

>> No.6146778
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6146778

>>6146512
Here's an actual answer OP: have decent knowledge of the history of philosophy (if you know Nietzsche, Heidegger and Husserl that will help a good deal), understand the jist of Levi-Strauss and Structuralism (wikipedia will do), then read Derrida's essay "Structure, Sign & Play", then read the essay "Différance", then "Signature Event Context", then whatever you like really. And whatever secondary lit you can get your hands on.

>> No.6146822

>>6146519
Hahaha

>> No.6146830

>>6146584
Yep, and if you kept off a cliff, no one would notice

>> No.6146865

>>6146659
I'm not taking places you moron. It's not fucking football

>> No.6147577

>>6146584
>not realising that both have their merits and can be reconciled with one another
Anyone who firmly plants their foot on either side is retarded.

>> No.6147620

>'That the signified is originarily and essentially (and not only for a finite and created spirit) trace, that it is always already in the position of the signifier, is the apparently innocent proposition within which the metaphysics of the logos, of presence and consciousness, must reflect upon writing as its death and its resource.'

Does anyone actually accept Derrida's account of language? I can see his points about the assumptions and blindspots of Western metaphysics, but I still end up thinking 'And so?' when I read him.

>> No.6147639

>>6147620

That proper triggered me that did. I haven't read Derrida since I was at university, and now I'm going to have nightmares about logos and différance

>> No.6147674

>>6147620
Yes and no. What he says is largely true, but he still succumbs to a primitive skepticism and cerebralism, ignoring or disregarding ordinary experience. He basically just goes on endlessly against essentialism, foundationalism, representation etc. He raised a lot of problems but gave very little solutions. This is why I think Wittgenstein was a step ahead of him; he raises this kind of skepticism and solves it in literally the space of a fre paragraphs (see the rule-following paradox).

I think once you understand Derrida's views of meaning and language he's then only useful as a fun writer when talking about ethics and religion etc.

>> No.6149050

Hey so I know this isn't /tv/ but that board is fucking retarded. There are only two threads running about Postmodernism right now and I'd like to discuss Birdman.

Who here saw Birdman? What did you guys think of it? How pertinent do you think the Barthes and Borges references are to the film?

>> No.6149054

>>6146576
Heidegger is the only thing worth reading on that list.

>> No.6149063

>>6149054
Why are analytics so obsessed with shitting up continental threads?

>> No.6149072

>>6149063
You know nothing of Truth anon.

>> No.6149076

>>6149063
insecurity or just acting out at the dominance of continental philosophy on /lit/. They won't start their own threads for some reason though

>> No.6149098

>>6149072
Frege invented philosophy :3
>>6149072
Av~B<=>B->A
:3 :3 :3

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6149116

>>6146865

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>> No.6149223

>>6146778
Good answer, anon