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What do you think of the differentiation between high culture and low culture? What makes something high and something low?

Do you try to avoid popular culture?

>> No.6105348

I think of it as a spectrum. On one end there's shallow, Hollywood, pop trash, and on the other there's shallow, pretentious, pseudo intellectual bullshit. You wanna get somewhere in the middle. I do tend to avoid pop culture though.

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>>6103208
low culture has its charm to

as long as its a genuine. authentic expression and not optimized by think tanks to appeal to a target audience its fine with me

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>>6103208
Artistic criteria define what is culturally high or low. People create their often own criteria.

To determine the criteria, one must figure out which aspects are the most important, and then compare the artwork being judged to the artwork that had reached the highest level of said aspect and the one that reached the lowest.

Thus, one can only claim to know high culture from extensive experience. Many people don't read, which is why there is so much YA fic and sci-fi crap.

On avoiding pop-culture, again, most people don't know what's good because they lack the experience. Thus most pop-culture is bad, but not necessarily all.

>> No.6105384

>>6105348
>there's shallow, pretentious, pseudo intellectual bullshit

But everything that is unattainble to the masses is labled "shallow, pretentious and pseudo intellectual" regardless of its quality.

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>>6105348
>being this much of a midcult consumer

>> No.6105402

>>6105348
> a spectrum with two shitty ends

Wow, says a lot about your perception of art. If Mika Tryner can display literal human feces on display, anything is art.

>> No.6105454

>>6105402
>anything is art.
have you been living under a rock for the past century?

>> No.6105729

>>6105357
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqJxuzpPxFk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkfwWSqm3K8

I agree, also internet memes are inherently low culture yet 4chan doesn't even allow worldstar videos

>> No.6105742

>>6105382
>To determine the criteria, one must figure out which aspects are the most important, and then compare the artwork being judged to the artwork that had reached the highest level of said aspect and the one that reached the lowest.

That WAS the job of an art critic and it's important to know what happened to those guys

>> No.6105747

>>6103208
Avoiding popular culture just because it's popular is the telling sign of the middlebrow twat

Also, nothing wrong with low culture as long as it's not disingenous and designed to sell, and even then sometimes it just happily "works"

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I think its mostly just a cultural thing that changes over time depending on what the current society judges as Important to their culture. Yesterdays low culture might be considered todays high culture.

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Was gemein sein kann, hat immer nur wenig Werth.

How many fucking times do I have to say it?

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>>6103208
I think it's petit bourgeois try hard tier.

>> No.6105860

Eh. I hate television and I'm not really a fan of top 40 styles music but it's not some sort of active rebellion. I listen to old pop songs from the 90's and early 2000's still, most TV shows I still watch are dumb comedies like Trailer Park Boys or It's Always Sunny and like, Looney Tunes. I can't sit through most hollywood movies anymore. I walked out of Transformers 3 in theaters.

>> No.6105868

I thought the difference was how late the party starts so there isn't conflict?

>> No.6105889

Works of low culture say mostly reflect on the culture in which they were produced. Works of high culture engage with the universal.

>> No.6105915

I consume popular and low culture in a conscious manner for the purpose of the sublime in irony

>> No.6106020

>>6105889
no. they both reflect the culture in which they were produced. bourgeois culture isn't universal.