/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.6082086]

ITT: we pair up literary works (or authors) with their musical equivalents

[Anonymous No.6082090]

>>6082086

Those aren't a like at all.

[Anonymous No.6082102]

[Anonymous No.6082108]

Carver - Darnielle

Btw, did you know that Darnielle wrote a tribute song to DFW after he killed himself? http://youtu.be/vjYdx0EGpJA

[Anonymous No.6082111]

If you get it, then you get it.

[Anonymous No.6082116]

>>6082086
I love David Foster Wallace's writing, but I hate Infinite Jest; it's cloying, assumes more importance than it should most of the time, and feels contrived in expressing itself as a work compared to his more understated works of short fiction and non fiction. The Pale King is my favorite piece by Wallace, he corrected almost every mistake he made in IJ and wrote with more honesty clarity in expression and less pretention. All of that being said, I think IJ most resembles "American Footballs" self titled debut album. They both really capture the sheltered middle class, mid western kid portrait.

[Anonymous No.6082118]

[Anonymous No.6082122]

>>6082111
Bang bang?

[Anonymous No.6082125]

[Anonymous No.6082127]

>>6082116
I got drunk in an art gallery with Mike Kinsella last year

his writing is really influenced quite a lot by One Hundred Years of Solitude. It resounds throughout his Owen work, most namely in 'The Sad Waltzes of Pietro Crespi'

[Anonymous No.6082130]

>>6082125
same fan base too

[Anonymous No.6082131]

>>6082086
Who would Arvo Pärt match up with? Dosto? Dostoevsky lived in Tallinn a bit I think.
Shakespeare-Dowland
Milton-Byrd
Tolstoy-Tchaikovsky

[Anonymous No.6082137]

>>6082122
Exactly.

Plus his lyrics bring to life the nihilism inherent within his world. Finally Rich is about the existential angst, hopelessness and nihilism that pervades today's youth.

[Anonymous No.6082151]

hehehe

[Anonymous No.6082152]

I tried.

[Anonymous No.6082155]

>>6082131
I know nothing about Dowland and Byrd...

[Anonymous No.6082161]

>>6082116
that's just unfair. ij is attempting, at least, to address national issues, not just insular teenage ones. that makes up the tiniest amount of the novel of any of its themes, in fact i have a hard time finding it to be a theme at all, the closest analogue being generational ennui, which was something wallace thought of as an idiosyncratic effect of modern consumer culture, and didn't explore in remotely the same way 90s emo did. you dislike the writing, fine, but be fair

besides, the playful tone of ij lends itself more to cap'n jazz anyway

[Anonymous No.6082167]

[truman !!cO9KVBDtkqQ No.6082170]

>>6082152
>>6082152
yep

[Anonymous No.6082174]

>>6082167
This is the only right answer for Lolita

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4Y_X9lyu8U

[Anonymous No.6082175]

>>6082155
Both are worth listening to. Dowland in particular wrote some beatiful songs like "flow my tears" and "come again". His works for lute are beautiful

[Anonymous No.6082179]

>>6082152
what album is that?

[Anonymous No.6082184]

>>6082179
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY982Uo2TPI

[Anonymous No.6082188]

>>6082116
>>6082161
sunny day real estate's diary would be a perfect match for ij

>>6082175
based CLT, what is your aoty 2014?

[Anonymous No.6082192]

The title track is the perfect soundtrack to the final section in Mexico.

[Anonymous No.6082198]

[Anonymous No.6082203]

>>6082125
Hit and miss anon, AF s/t and whole AF is misery over hurrrr no gf anymore ;__; and CitR is about PTSD

There are some emo albums vaguely related to PTSD, yeah, but AF isn't one

>>6082111
clever, also nice trips

[Anonymous No.6082205]

Talking Heads in general, I guess

[Anonymous No.6082210]

>>6082174
the only right answer to lolita is that joke song with 'OHHH I LOVE LITTLE GIRLS' in the chorus

[Anonymous No.6082213]

>>6082192
nice

[Anonymous No.6082217]

[Anonymous No.6082218]

Is Chief Keef worth listening to?

Also funny, it's much easier for me to find movie equivalents.

[Anonymous No.6082219]

>>6082210
that was a joke song?

[Anonymous No.6082220]

>>6082161
IJ is completely up its own ass compared to the rest of Wallace's work (apart from broom, that is also an ego piece) to the point of almost feeling out of place when compared to his other works. As far as addressing issues that are more important and less superficial go, you can't beat his short fiction and non fiction, IJ almost feels like Wallace trying his darndest to write "the great american novel" that encompasses an entire era. It falls short in almost every way, and the themes explored within IJ are more fleshed out, subtle, and concise in his other works. Read his short fiction collections "Oblivion" and "Brief Interviews With Hideous Men" alongside "The Pale King" to get an idea of what I mean. The great tragedy of Wallace's writing is comparable to that of Salinger: They will both be remembered for a work that does not showcase the brilliance of their writing.

[Anonymous No.6082227]

>>6082219
I have always thought so, can't even recall the author/title, haven't heard it in a bit

[Anonymous No.6082228]

ITT we match up old novels with music we personally enjoy from the past 20 years

[Anonymous No.6082236]

>>6082102
>g4ngst4 nigg4z rap
>on /lit/

[Anonymous No.6082237]

>>6082220
i will read those, read a bit from oblivion but that's all so far

[Anonymous No.6082238]

[Anonymous No.6082240]

>>6082227
I guess it was a joke.

>Elfman has since stated that his intentions were to write in jest from the perspective of various disreputable characters, adding he was "out to offend everybody".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jItz-uNjoZA

[Anonymous No.6082247]

The Great Gatsby - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady

[Anonymous No.6082248]

[Anonymous No.6082253]

>>6082240
Yeah, indeed.

>>6082228
>>6082248

[Anonymous No.6082255]

>>6082220
If Infinite Jest is "up its own ass" then so is Brief Interviews.

[Anonymous No.6082263]

[Anonymous No.6082269]

>>6082220
You think addiction, obsession, entertainment, and depression are superficial and unimportant? No offense but you're being pretty vague, mind explaining yourself a bit better?

[Anonymous No.6082284]

>>6082263
Nah, DFW is Cobain. Even Franzen said it.

[Anonymous No.6082288]

>>6082269
It describes Infinite Jest perfectly so I can only assume you don't understand the word and hoped I didn't too.

[Anonymous No.6082292]

>>6082269
Not that guy, but you're white and live in a suburb, don't you?

>addiction, obsession, entertainment, and depression

Get kidnapped. Let some real problems happen to you, not these fake "omg I'm addicted to pot!" and "the Internet is so addictive!" non-problems.

[Anonymous No.6082300]

>>6082288
This image reminded me why I haven't been to /mu/ for 2 years now

[Anonymous No.6082302]

>>6082300
It intrigued me to go, for once.

[Anonymous No.6082304]

>>6082292
No, I'm black and live in Chiraq (city where you can get shot at any time, just like Iraq).

[Anonymous No.6082306]

>>6082292

I got kidnaped once. In Nigeria. It was alright, but I wouldn't do it again.

[Anonymous No.6082308]

>>6082292
You're a moron. Even if you're trolling, you're still a moron.

[Anonymous No.6082310]

>>6082284
Except Cobain had talent.

[Anonymous No.6082311]

>>6082288
The person who made this obviously never read The Stranger.

[Anonymous No.6082315]

>>6082300

You somehow think this is superior? /lit/ is just /mu/ with kindles instead of ipods.

[Anonymous No.6082317]

>>6082292
Since everything is about perspective, your argument is null.

[Anonymous No.6082318]

>>6082310
go back to 9gag, kid

[Anonymous No.6082322]

>>6082315
Fuck you, retard.

[Anonymous No.6082323]

>>6082288
I used to argue with that cunt. One time I might have got too close to the bone and it turns out she's some lanky autist Manc hambeast who doesn't leave the house and watches anime while scrobbling as much classical music as possible.

[Anonymous No.6082326]

[Anonymous No.6082328]

>>6082315
Except /mu/ has nothing but their irony, everything is engulfed in it, spawns from there, rises and then falls back within the irony, it's the alpha and omega, and beta, and... and so on.

/lit/ has some merit to its content, even the shitposting, as it[being it either actual content or the funposting] usually is created with a point to it, an actual point other than just being as ironic as possible

So I'd say /lit/ is better

[Anonymous No.6082349]

Gravitys Rainbow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C3m5Lno_20

[Anonymous No.6082357]

>>6082288
... You just used buzzwords you fucking melon. You clearly can't articulate your view properly and it's understandable why you didn't 'get' IJ.

[Anonymous No.6082360]

>>6082323
Yeah, same, then I realized it's not worth it and gave up. It's also when I stopped expressing my opinions and arguing with people on 4chan or anywhere else, I feel it's just pointless.

>>6082328
/lit/ is seriously the best board on 4chan, closely followed by /a/, even though they're kinda dumb and take anime way too seriously, they stay on topic.

[Anonymous No.6082361]

>>6082086

[Anonymous No.6082364]

>>6082304
you can get shot at any time in Iraq?

[Anonymous No.6082373]

>>6082357
>melon
SERIOUSLY /mu/ STOP MEMING IT SO HARDCORE

[Anonymous No.6082374]

>>6082131
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T1Hd2USKTmc
This goes well with Crime and Punishment I think

[Anonymous No.6082379]

>>6082361
>fucking melon
love these memes

[Anonymous No.6082383]

>>6082373
Ayyy lmao

[Anonymous No.6082391]

>>6082322

Great rebuttal you pretentious little cunt.

[Anonymous No.6082393]

>>6082391
/r/music

Fuck off

[Anonymous No.6082395]

>>6082328
>So I'd say /lit/ is better

You must be new.

Actually, I guess it is "better" but that's just being the prettier turd in the toilet bowl.

[Anonymous No.6082397]

>>6082379

wut

[Anonymous No.6082401]

>>6082395
>ad hominem

Im not the new one here

[Anonymous No.6082418]

>>6082288
You're what's wrong with /lit/ m8

[Anonymous No.6082425]

>>6082401

>doesn't know what "ad hominem" means

I take it back, you're clearly a regular.

[Anonymous No.6082428]

>>6082425
the edge, the edge.

[Anonymous No.6082432]

>>6082397

[Anonymous No.6082444]

>>6082428

>doesn't know what edgy means either

What else don't you know?

[Anonymous No.6082446]

>>6082432

Still don't get it.

[Anonymous No.6082447]

>>6082444
but you are fucking edgy, it's beyond /mu/ level edge

now go back to your shitty board

[Anonymous No.6082457]

>>6082447

>mfw this IS my shitty board

[Anonymous No.6082462]

>>6082447

No, you really don't know what edgy or ad hominem mean. You've just read them on 4chan and you throw them out whenever you're sperging about something but you don't really know why.

You should probably fuck off back to >>>/pol/, maybe now Moot's gone, they'll make it how it was before.

[Anonymous No.6082472]

>>6082462
>describing exactly what you're doing and accusing someone else of doing it
that's yet another of your favourite logical fallacies my friend

[Anonymous No.6082477]

>>6082446
'You melon' is an insult thrown around by /mu/. He was providing the background of said insult.

[Anonymous No.6082551]

>>6082184
Wow, it's a stupid nigger yelling and being mad!

Such a great record...

[Anonymous No.6082566]

>>6082432
>>6082397

[Anonymous No.6082579]

>>6082086
they don't have anything in common

[Anonymous No.6082605]

>>6082579
except both are you know... masterpieces

[Anonymous No.6082607]

>>6082605
nice try

[Anonymous No.6082615]

>>6082607
>implying it's not true
The amount of effort that went to make that album is amazing

[Anonymous No.6082631]

[Anonymous No.6082633]

>>6082551

>I know nothing about hip-hop or music in general

[Anonymous No.6082642]

someone do this one

[Anonymous No.6082647]

>>6082631
yea, this is surprisingly accurate.

[Anonymous No.6082650]

>>6082633
Nice meme rebuttal, nigger lover.

[Anonymous No.6082658]

>>6082650
>all this mad

[Anonymous No.6082676]

>>6082633
>kanye west is hiphop
>caring about or liking kanye is knowing music in general

its such a shit album i cant believe anyone actually listens to that retard.

have you ever listened to any of the shit he samples?
go listen to a motown record or something retard.

[Anonymous No.6082695]

>>6082676
>2015
>not recognizing Ye as one of the greatest artists of our time
I don't understand why you mentioned sampling. No point was made.

[Anonymous No.6082718]

>>6082695
>typical kanye west song
>muh dick
>muh dick
>muh dick
>i be fucking dem white wimmin
>my gurl kim got a fat azz
>i be a proud non-reada of bookz
>muh dick so big n black
>da white man can't control me
>muh dick
>muh dick
>muh dick
>i know i sometimes arrogant do
>muh dick
>muh dick
>i'm da Michael jordan of makin rhymes
>muh dick

>go on /mu/
>find Kayne West thread
>SUCH AN ARTIST
>HIS WHOLE PERSONA IS A CRITIQUE OF WHITE HETERONORMATIVE NORMS!!!!
>HE'S TAKING BACK RACIST SYMBOLS!!!
>SUCH AN GENIUS!!!!
>EVERY SONG IS A LONG INTO HIS DARK AND TORTURED PSYCHE !!!!

[Anonymous No.6082719]

>>6082360
>I stopped expressing my opinions
>NOW HEER IS MAI OPINON ABOT THE BESTEST BORD ON 4CHANG

[Anonymous No.6082721]

>>6082718
Confirmed non-listener of Kanye. Opinion discarded, back to /pol/ with you.

[Anonymous No.6082725]

>>6082477

I've just realised that the person I originally asked was possibly quoting the wrong post. I thought I was involved for a while, but it was all illusion.

Melon is a pretty common mild insult in bongistan, as with a lot of other fruit (you plum, you nana, you enormous fucking mangosteen etc.). I guess they don't like fruit.

[Anonymous No.6082730]

>>6082719
I knew this was going to happen.

I may still sometimes say what I think or how I feel about something, but I don't feel like explaining why I think that or trying to convince someone otherwise.

I'll stop replying to you now. Like I said, it's pointless. Plus, I'm tired as fuck and can't type.

[Anonymous No.6082737]

>>6082718
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLx11xq6X7Q

faggot

[Anonymous No.6082744]

>>6082737
>>6082721
Go take your white guilt elsewhere.

>>>/mu/

[Anonymous No.6082750]

>>6082744
>s-stop having different opinions than me
>the guys on Stormfront will hear all about this

[Anonymous No.6082761]

>>6082750
How about you listen to some good hip hop like Kendrick or Nas.

[Anonymous No.6082768]

>>6082761
Who the fuck doesn't know who Kendrick or Nas are? Good Kid M.A.A.D. City was influenced by Ye as much as anything. Why don't you learn something about hip hop before trying to out-do someone?

[Anonymous No.6082775]

>>6082695

The voice of a generation and the writer who'll be remembered long after someone like Tao Lin will be forgotten.

>>6082718

You haven't listened to a single kanye track have you? You just want to spout racist shit.

[Anonymous No.6082780]

>>6082730
>I knew this was going to happen.

Did it anyway

>I may still sometimes say what I think or how I feel about something, but I don't feel like explaining why I think that or trying to convince someone otherwise.

I still express my opinions, but now I act like a prissy six year-old while I do it

>I'll stop replying to you now.

Good

> it's pointless

It is when you do it

>I'm tired as fuck and can't type.

It's amazing how many retarded people own up to being tired when their retardation is pointed out.

Don't you fucking dare reply to this you unopinionated cunt.

[Anonymous No.6082781]

>>6082761
>>6082768
Man. Hip hop snobbery.

I think I've seen it all, now.

[Tallis !!y+12CeFwYOo No.6082786]

>>6082152
10/10

>>6082131
>tolstoy-tchaikovsky
are u good

>>6082676
Not like you'd know anything about other music.

[Anonymous No.6082787]

>>6082761

>I know, I'll throw in a reference to Nas, that's what all the kids are listening to these days isn't it, I read about it in the guardian, he's a lyrical genius

Nas is so fucking over-rated. Plan B is better than Nas, and Plan B is fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.6082791]

>>6082787
lol white people

[Anonymous No.6082793]

>>6082306
holy shit are you serious me too, where you on vacation or what? My mom and I got carjacked in port-harcourt once.

[Anonymous No.6082795]

>>6082781
If anything, I'm trying to be the anti-snob here. Some kid rolls up trying to act all 'edgy' by hating on Kanye and namedropping some fairly well-known rappers like they're some kind of backbacker shit. I take a firm stand against rappers and fans who take themselves too seriously. I'm surprised he didn't mention Hopsin or some godawful idiot whose popularity only stems from how contrarian they are.

[Tallis !!y+12CeFwYOo No.6082796]

>>6082781
fuck that, traps where its at yall bustas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqCZL0GJEN0

[Anonymous No.6082802]

>>6082793
>where you on vacation or what?

Nah I was working there and everyone knew that the oil companies have insurance against kidnaping, so they do it all the time. One guy I worked with got taken something like six times in two years or something mad.

Like I say, it was alright, something to tell people at parties and what not, but I didn't enjoy it very much.

It was near Port Harcourt for me too - they probably thought you were oil people, assuming you're a honky.

[Anonymous No.6082808]

>>6082795

British rap and hip hop is the best anyway.

[Anonymous No.6082812]

>>6082787
looks like someone's never heard illmatic

[Anonymous No.6082813]

>>6082808
>this entire statement

[Tallis !!y+12CeFwYOo No.6082815]

>>6082808

[Anonymous No.6082818]

>>6082812

Why would you think that? Are you labouring under the misapprehension that Nas is underground or something? I actually listened to ilmatic when it was released, as in, before you were born kid.

[Anonymous No.6082820]

>>6082812
Not that guy, but Illmatic is overrated as shit. The production is *alright* and his rap skills pale in comparison to someone like Mobb Deep or GZA/Genius.

[Anonymous No.6082824]

>>6082086

[Anonymous No.6082826]

>>6082820
Yes, I know Mobb Deep is two people. I misspoke.

[Anonymous No.6082827]

>>6082813

hahahahah so funny now go back to listening to your nicky minaj albums m8.

[Anonymous No.6082831]

what is the literary equivalent to this

[Anonymous No.6082839]

Am I doin it rite?

[Anonymous No.6082841]

>>6082827
Are you fucking serious? Name me one British hip hop album that's as good as Liquid Swords. At best, you have Dizzee Rascal (only one good album, lol) and The Streets.

[Anonymous No.6082847]

>>6082831

First thing that came to my head, if we're playing word association football with music.

[Anonymous No.6082853]

>>6082775
>You haven't listened to a single kanye track have you? You just want to spout racist shit.
>I PUT MY DIIIIIICK IN YOU MOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUF
>I WANNA FUCK YOU HARD ON THE SINK
>MY LEATHER BLACK JEANS ON!
>WHERE MUH DAMN CROISSANTS!
>UHUH HONEY ;)
>KEEP IT 300 LIKE LE ROMANS

Yeah, no.

I listened to it, so I know it's shit.

[Anonymous No.6082858]

>>6082841
>At best, you have Dizzee Rascal (only one good album, lol) and The Streets.

Oh m8, you are woefully uninformed. The Streets are fucking shit and it's like 20 years old man. You think everyone just stopped?

Fucking yanks. I bet you think rap was invented in New York just because you've seen a documentary.

You want to listen to that old-timey rap stuff, then try some Roots Manuva. He was good back then too.

[Anonymous No.6082864]

>>6082786
Is this Tallis, the trip from /mu/?

I thought you liked serious music such as classical, serialism and onkyo...

[Anonymous No.6082867]

>>6082853
>cherrypicking this hard
Even so, who gives a fuck? Oscar Wilde could write a book about wanting his dick in some hot boypussy and it would still be great.
>>6082858
>Britbongs trying to take what doesn't belong to them again
Fuck off, King George. I bet you don't even know who Afrika Bambaataa is.

[Anonymous No.6082874]

Kanye seems very, very stupid because of some things and at the same time he's kind of a genius because of some other things.

It's weird.

[Anonymous No.6082892]

>>6082874
his first couple of albums have a bunch of smart puns, wordplay, and commentary

i think he said in some interview that he basically dumbed everything down to make it transmit better at live shows (i.e. appeal to dummies). he is obviously not stupid, but i don't know why he says stupid shit all the time when he doesn't have to. it doesn't really help his image, and the music stands on its own

[Anonymous No.6082896]

>>6082892
He has a problem with articulating his thoughts into words properly.

[Anonymous No.6082903]

>>6082896
i don't think so. he seems to articulate what he wants to through his songs pretty well

[Anonymous No.6082909]

[Anonymous No.6082911]

>>6082820
how is it possible to be this white?

[Anonymous No.6082914]

>>6082867
>Afrika Bambaataa

Yeah I do, he did that track with Leftfield when he acknowledged british music was the best.

[Anonymous No.6082917]

>>6082911
>implying you're not white
>implying having black ears makes you appreciate aesthetics differently

[Anonymous No.6082919]

>>6082198
how

[Anonymous No.6082926]

>>6082914
You know what, I'm gonna stop arguing. Because honestly, if you think British hip hop is even close to America's, then you're (as you would say it) daft.
OI M8 IT'S 8 BONG, SAY 'ELLO TO THE QUEEN

[Anonymous No.6082930]

>>6082917
white people can't into rhythm, black people can't into melody

[Anonymous No.6082935]

>>6082930
Sounds like you just can't face up to Illmatic having overrated beats.

[Anonymous No.6082985]

>>6082310
>>>/rollingstone/

[Anonymous No.6083004]

>>6082926

If you think that US hiphop is that far ahead of UK hip hop, then you've obviously never got out of your US mainsteram hugbox and you're (as you would say it) a cunt.

YEEHAW BOYS LETS GET US DOWN TO THE COTILLION AND LYNCH US SUM NIGRAS

[Anonymous No.6083069]

>>6082174
Dammit I was going to use this!

[Anonymous No.6083076]

>>6082210
Um no

[Anonymous No.6083145]

My god this thread is pure ideology. Are you guys actually arguing about Kanye? You know this isn't /mu/ right?

[Anonymous No.6083145,1]

Kanye is ok