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I'm reading this book for a girl.

What should I expect?

>> No.6062477

just read the fucking book

>> No.6062554

Expect to not get laid

>> No.6062566

She recommended it to you because she thinks you're a fedora.

>> No.6062565

>>6062554
already fucked her
:^)

>> No.6062568

>>6062566
pls no bully ;_;

>> No.6063945

>>6062568
Demons is his best work.

>> No.6063949

Hey faggots. Hijacking this worthless thread to ask: what is the best translation of Brothers Karamazov? The only translation available at Barnes & Nobles was Constance Garnett and I know enough about her to know she is worth avoiding. Are there other translations? Who is the best?

>> No.6063952

>>6063949
I've heard that the red edition OP posted is the best translation, but honestly I read the penguin edition by a different translator and that was fine too. I feel like except for a few select segments in the book, most of it can be objectively translated to maintain Dostoevsky's writing style.

>> No.6064001

>>6062472
expect stupid russians crying all the time

>> No.6064025

>>6062472
Angel? Fuck off.

>> No.6064069

>>6062472
If you're italian and she's my ex expect a feminist fedora bitch

>> No.6064070

>>6063949

Peaver and Volokhonsky is generally considered to be the best.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2005/11/07/the-translation-wars?printable=true

>> No.6064094

>>6063949
I read the P&V translation and found it awkwardly written at times (although not enough to spoil my overall impression of the book). Then I read Ignat Avsey's translation of The Idiot and found it much more pleasingly written. His version of The Brother Karamazov is titled The Karamazov Brothers, which I find slightly off-putting, but if I was to read it again I'd go for that one.

>> No.6064161

>>6062472
>>6062472
i liked it, some of it was beautiful and i really liked all the religious stuff and the relationships of the characters, i found a lot of it very melodramatic though

i got to like the last 30 pages and just put it down for some reason, and ive heard the closing argument for the defense is like the best bit of the book, oh well

also the grand inquisitor section wasnt that interesting

>> No.6064185

>>6064001
russian girls in literature always blush even in a remotely affectionate way just like my animes

>> No.6064190

>>6062477
underrated post

>> No.6064201

>>6063949
go home

>> No.6064247

>>6064185
tolstoy was a weeb

>> No.6064370

>>6064161
you read like a 900 page book all the way until the last 30 pages?

>> No.6064374

>What should I expect?

That's it. I'm putting this shit into my filters.

>> No.6064534
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>>6062472

>> No.6064545

>>6064534

yep

>> No.6064566

>>6064534

Not enough Jesus

>> No.6064597

>>6062472
>reading a prachy christian book to get laid with a girl that already puts out easy
Dosto would hate you.

>> No.6064603

>>6064374
>Come to 4chan
>Use filters
>Miss the point of everything, ever
>Continue sucking

Jesus christ you people

>> No.6064616

>>6063949
Translation? Learn Russian, faggot!

>> No.6064619

>>6064161
You're an idiot, I mean that sincerely.

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6065047

>>6064534

>> No.6065064

>>6064161
Holy shit, you are stupid. Just kill yourself and do /lit/ a favor.

>> No.6065092

>>6064161
what did you do ?

>> No.6065095

>>6064161
10/10

>> No.6065112

What do I read after reading TBK? It was my introduction to literature. Do I start reading more dostoevsky or do I start with the greeks

>> No.6065528

>>6064370
>>6064619
>>6065064
>>6065092
>>6065095
lol im sorry guys, i did this recently with the book of the new sun, got all the way until severian became autarch and returned to master palemoon, and havent picked it up since, it feels kind of rewarding

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6065548

>>6065047

>> No.6065554

>>6062565

then.. why

trying to get anal?

>> No.6065576

Is it worth reading Dostoevsky chronologically? Is House of the Dead/Poor folks any good?

>> No.6065587

>>6065112
Depends what kind of literature you're interested in getting more into. Philosophy and nonfiction, definitely get into Greek literature. I'll never try to persuade someone to not read more Dostoevsky.

>> No.6065737

>>6065554
well that would be a perk

>> No.6065752

>>6065548
>MY MOTHER IS NOT YOUR MOTHER
>Is that relevant, Mitya?
>NO BUT I'M IN LOVE WITH TWO WOMEN
>I love God.
>I HATE MY FATHER
>Don't we all?
>BUT YOU TWO AREN'T MURDERING HIM
>We want to believe you're innocent, Mitya, but there's no way you're innocent
>Smerdyakov! Tell me about Russians.
>Russians are shit, Vanya, and I have seizures, which makes me innocent in the eyes of God.
>Well then maybe it was my fault for being an atheist.
>I think we can all agree that Vanya being a heathen fucked everyone up.
>Here here! My dog was tortured.
>Fin.

>> No.6065765

>>6062472
got any nudes?

>> No.6065795

Trying to into Dostoevsky, do I start with TBK or Crime and Punishment? Or something else?

>> No.6065936

>>6062472
Expect no ending. This was supposed to be a trilogy but Dosto died too soon, so lots of characters don't get anywhere.

>> No.6065980

>>6065548
Dmitri is the only crybaby. Ivan and Alyosha are god tier and Fyodor is top kek tier.

>> No.6066203

Isn't it funny how both this and Dead Souls were intended to be the first part of a trilogy before the author died? Not only that, but Gogol apparently intended to somehow redeem the morally corrupt Chichikov with the two other parts, whereas Dostoevsky intended to make Alyosha go through a life of great sin, thus fulfilling the original title, "The Life of a Great Sinner". Dostoevsky was also a huge fan of Gogol, by the way.

>> No.6068020

>>6065528
I did the same thing with 1Q84

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6068414

>tfw long suffering servant of God, Mikhail

>> No.6068569

>>6062472
It's a fucking boring book mate, I dropped it. Could not deal with it until the end. People say it's amazing, but I don't see it. ;_;

>> No.6069213

>>6066203
IIRC didn't Gogol want to model his Dead Souls trilogy on the structure of Dante's comedy?

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6070047

The ending (epilogue) got me pretty emotional.

>> No.6070955

>>6070047
I read this book.

It;s like the characters don't talk the way normal people talk. They have like page long dialogues. That kinda drove me nuts. idk it was a decent book.

>> No.6071010

>>6062472
Greatest book of all time. be prepared for awesome