/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.6055952]

Communism is back in Europe everyone and Golden dawn got BTFO

Let's get an anti-fascist literature thread going

[Anonymous No.6055974]

>>6055952
>Communism is back in Europe
>posts pics of a Liberal

[Anonymous No.6055983]

>>6055952
>SYRIZA
>communist

[Anonymous No.6055984]

>>6055974
Why is it that 'liberals' seem so intent on carrying the flag of socialism, yet do so so disingenuinously

[Anonymous No.6055995]

>>6055952
Syriza is not communist now get the fuck out (and also just made a coalition with an anti-immigrant / conservative party)

[Anonymous No.6055997]

posting in a shit thread.

[Anonymous No.6056000]

>>6055952
>>6055952
>SYRIZA
>Commie

i dont think so bub. theyre a puppet of the EU who will never revolutionize and rally the petty bourgeoisie much less the proletariat.

[Anonymous No.6056011]

>all these fascists getting mad in this thread

[Anonymous No.6056020]

>Behind every fascism, there is a failed revolution.

[Anonymous No.6056021]

>>6055952
>third place
>BTFO

[Anonymous No.6056027]

>>6056020
That's not even remotely true.

[Anonymous No.6056033]

>soc-dems
>communism

More like centre-left casuals.

[Anonymous No.6056034]

In other news, the fascist part came in third place in a democratic election in Greece.

[Anonymous No.6056042]

syriza will fail to do anything and then it will be golden dawn's turn

[Anonymous No.6056043]

>forming a coalition with the Independent Greeks
>not leaving the eurozone
>a win for the left

[Anonymous No.6056046]

>>6056011
>we want Europe but we don't want neoliberalism. We want the Eurozone but we don't want austerity.

CHOCOLATE LAXATIVES
COFFEE WITHOUT THE CREAM

This is ideology at it's purest my god. you posted this to make Tsipras look radical?

[Anonymous No.6056053]

>>6056042
>syriza will fail to do anything and then it will be the KKEs turn

[Anonymous No.6056061]

>>6056046

Zizek has a strong affinity for fascism, racism and anti-multiculturalism, anti-feminism, that's why liberals hate him.

He could easily be a national socialist, if he wasn't so degenerate, fat and disgusting in his personal life

[Anonymous No.6056091]

>>6056061
>Zizek has a strong affinity for fascism, racism and anti-multiculturalism

He's anti multicultural because he wants to dismantle society entirely in order to create true equality. He see's multiculturalism as a way of preserving white power, which it is. And he has an affinity for Communist order not for fascism its ridicules bourgeois imitation.

[Anonymous No.6056096]

>>6056021
>Communists get 149 seats
>Nazis get 17

I'd say they pretty much were B T F O

[Anonymous No.6056148]

>>6056096

Patience.
Europa is slowly waking up from its drug induced coma.

[Anonymous No.6056170]

>>6056096
>>6055952

Fox News, Sky News and all the other supposedly 'Right Wing' news media were promoting Syriza as the party of the people. That's strange is it not? Isn't the Murdoch brand opposed to 'Socialism' yet here they are supporting them. Why?

Because they are terrified of the Golden Dawn; The openly Greek Fascist Party. Unlike the Socialists of the past many decades, Fascists never compromise their promises or policies for the wants and whims of International Capital. They have always sought the interests of their citizens and in doing so will find any alternative to fulfill those promises.

Unlike the strict ideals of Marxism & Capitalism which follow the arbitrary ideals of Liberty and Equality. Fascism seeks Capability. It seeks interest. It does not seek some far off Utopian endgame of a stateless society run by an egalitarian proletariat that magically functions without hierarchy, nor does it base its functions on the whims of business. Its focus is on the states interests.

If that means abandoning NATO, creating an entirely new economic system or shutting down parasitical Trade Unions. So be it. If it means opposing International Capital and Oil oligarchies, then it will be done. Without the limitations of arbitrary goals and lobbyists, Fascism has almost no obstacles when rebuilding nations and culture. This unique structure will tempt businessmen, entrepreneurs and other states across the world to do trade and investment.

The Golden Dawn seeks the interests of the citizen and International Capital is directly opposed to those interests, unlike Syriza which will compromise like all the other Socialists.

To prevent the Golden Dawns surging in power, multiple steps have been taken. The main leadership have been jailed under ridiculous charges of being part of a 'criminal gang' based upon the murder of anti fascist rapper, Pavlos Fyssas. The media tells us it was a political event but in reality, it was likely an argument over football that got out of hand. The Police still used this as justification to arrest the leadership and claimed a conspiracy among the Golden Dawn leadership. As if the Golden Dawn is going to put out a hit using an uninitiated to bump off some unknown leftist rapper. Ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.6056178]

>>6056170
Secret service always does a good job.

[Anonymous No.6056188]

>>6056096
>I'd say they pretty much were B T F O

>maintains a lead despite half of its MPs in prison and prevention of campaigning

lel

[Anonymous No.6056190]

>>6056170
>The Golden Dawn seeks the interests of the citizen
Unless you're not Hellenic right?

[Anonymous No.6056208]

>>6056148
>posts anime
>is a nazi

lmao, just lmao

[Anonymous No.6056267]

>>6056190
I don't give a fuck about Africans, they stink and make loud noises like baboons

[Anonymous No.6056290]

>>6056190
>Unless you're not Hellenic right?

Unless you aren't Greek. They're forward looking.
The future of who becomes Greek is more important. We've seen the failures of mass immigration and the multicult experiment in places like UK, Sweden, France.

[Anonymous No.6056299]

>>6056290
If becoming national socialist means those are the women that will surround me sign me up

[Anonymous No.6056301]

>>6056061
>Zizek has a strong affinity for fascism, racism and anti-multiculturalism, anti-feminism,
No, not at all. Zizek despises political correctness, that doesn't mean he supports racialist or sexist policies.

[Anonymous No.6056305]

>>6056170
>Unlike the Socialists of the past many decades, Fascists never compromise their promises or policies for the wants and whims of International Capital
lel. Mussolini comprised virtually everything he and the fascist party originally stood for in order to appease Catholics, the bourgeoisie and Nazis.

[Anonymous No.6056309]

>>6056305
>compromise

[Anonymous No.6056322]

>>6056290
What would I do to be a Soviet soldier fighting in Berlin circa 1945...
>>6056301
>No, not at all. Zizek despises political correctness
That's pretty much almost all of Slovenian left. Here it's the right that's mostly politically correct.

[G 0 D B L 3 ß !zR/LhJxu0Q No.6056337]

>>6056305
Yes but Mussolini was an outlier. Hitler and other National Socialists (National Bolsheviks come to mind here) are/were extremely anti-compromise to the point of being politically (and literally suicidal).
Also
>TFW Giovanni Gentile had no political power in Fascist Italy

[Anonymous No.6056351]

>>6056337
National Socialists aren't fascists, at least if you're bringing in people like Giovanni Gentile when you talk about fascism.

[Anonymous No.6056361]

no one cares about old europe, fag. why isn't there a thread for the blizzard of a century? the center of global capitalism is getting hella snow right now and u dudes are on about some communist whiners in greece? who gives a shit

[Anonymous No.6056368]

>>6056020
shut up, zizek

[Anonymous No.6056374]

>>6056305
Franco sold out the most and he got to keep his position the longer.

[Anonymous No.6056376]

>>6056290
Are they wearing bras or are they naturally perky?

[Anonymous No.6056377]

Most of Europe will go the other way because: MUH MUSLIMS. They'l vote for neoliberal parties who, in the end, don't give a shit about Muslims anyway.

Like in Belgium, the party in power now was all about right-wing conservativism. Every nut here his conservative heart skipped a beat at the thought of some good ol' nationalist revival. Now they're in power it's all about budget cuts and nothing else.

[G 0 D B L 3 ß !zR/LhJxu0Q No.6056390]

>>6056351
They're materialist-Fascists. While the "classic" Fascists are idealists.

[G 0 D B L 3 ß !zR/LhJxu0Q No.6056393]

>>6056374
He never sold out he was just a clerical-Fascist because of the catholic influence in Spain's history and tradition. He should've sold out though, many anarchists and communists died for no good reason.

[Anonymous No.6056397]

>>6056377
Well supposedly PODEMOS has a big chance to win in Spain, and Sin Fein in Ireland.
But who are we kidding? Nither SYRIZA, PODEMOS nor Sin Fein won't really change that much. It will just be the return of Keynesian economics. Which will just repeat the bum-bust cycle.

[Anonymous No.6056399]

>2015
>Still being anti-fascist

When are you all gonna stop being edgy teens and admit it's the only way

http://youtu.be/sPB1jy4vmFA

[Anonymous No.6056405]

>>6056399
lol he looks like a super queen with that big mom belly belt and his hands on his hips lol god why is fascism so fucking homoerotic

[Anonymous No.6056406]

>>6056399
>When are you all gonna stop being edgy teens
When will you :^)
Seriously being fascist is one of the most edgy ideologies ever.

[Anonymous No.6056407]

>>6056399
Get that hitter want-to-be out of my anti-fascist thread.

[Anonymous No.6056409]

>>6056397

Southern European countries yes.

But the Northern ones are so pissed off about the presence of Muslims they hate any leftist policy by default.

It's really unimagineable how many times during the day you hear some dude spewing his guts about Muslims.
It's in the top 5 things on their mind.

[Anonymous No.6056411]

KKE are gonna win next time comrouges. The reformists can only go so long before they're exposed.

[Anonymous No.6056415]

>>6056061
> He could easily be a national socialist, if he wasn't so degenerate, fat and disgusting in his personal life
But being degenerate, fat and disgusting in personal life is a trait very prominent among national socialists.

[Anonymous No.6056418]

>>6056399

[Anonymous No.6056423]

why don't all you european pussies just embrace neoliberal capitalism and get with the future? opposition to progress and the new world order whether it's some angsty muslims or edgy fascists or wacky anarchists is just infantile and embarrassing...history only goes one way, grow up.

[Anonymous No.6056425]

>>6056405
putting your hands on your hips is gay

[Anonymous No.6056426]

>>6056409
>It's really unimagineable how many times during the day you hear some dude spewing his guts about Muslims.
I know, I saw it on my facebook (yeah I have it) every time I check it. And I'm from more of "European south" than north.

>>6056411
>Being a Stalinist
That's as bad as supporting fascism.

[Anonymous No.6056430]

>>6056406
Yeah, right next to communism. Real men are conservatives.

[Anonymous No.6056432]

I like Zizek as a critic, but I wouldn't trust him if he ever got in power with his Jacobin crew.

[Anonymous No.6056436]

>>6056020
roger griffin made a good case against that in 1990

[Anonymous No.6056442]

>>6056423
>neoliberal capitalism
>the future

If you like stagnant economies, shit culture and no sense of cohesion or solidarity in society it is.

[Anonymous No.6056445]

>>6056432
He was in power in Slovenia back in the 90's. He literally did nothing. But then again, he was a president of some thing that was disbanded in 91, so it had no actual power.

>>6056430
>Real men are conservatives.
>conservatives
>good
Real men take care of themselves, meaning they're anarchists.

[Anonymous No.6056446]

>>6056432
I actually laughed at that variant. I want to know his trick and I'll even post it in facebook for my mom to see.

[Anonymous No.6056447]

>>6056377

Also, another thing, about those cuts.

Right-wingers love to hear spending on all social services will decrease as if it will somehow make Muslims flee from the ghetto's they inhabit.

Do they seriously believe that this gonna cause non-whites to flee the continent because they're now even more impoverished?
By that logic all the blacks in the US would have fled to Liberia.

[G 0 D B L 3 ß !zR/LhJxu0Q No.6056448]

>>6056432
I'd fall to the national razor to keep him in power

[Anonymous No.6056451]

tfw you realise the only reason /lit/ is full of commies is because it's full of lazy mummy boy neets

[Anonymous No.6056452]

>>6056442
America's economy is ballin' out right now, ya'll european nigs need to austerity your lazy ass working class into shape and you'll start stackin paper too

[Anonymous No.6056453]

>>6056446

His trick?

>MY GOD! NO! IT'S THE TOTAL OPPOSITE

[Anonymous No.6056456]

>>6056447
You have a very shallow view on right wing ideas.

[Anonymous No.6056457]

>>6056452

Except the American economy didn't start "ballin" again because of austerity, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.6056458]

>>6056426
>Supporting an Ideology that improved living standards, life expectancy, created free healthcare and education, massively improved women's rights and destroyed European Fascism...is as bad as Fascism

[Anonymous No.6056461]

>>6056452
>America's economy is ballin'

What is quantitative easing?

[Anonymous No.6056463]

>>6056456

I used to be a nationalist myself.
So don't bullshit me about "nuance" among them.
Behind the facade, their whole shit is about hating poor people, niggers and gays.

[Anonymous No.6056466]

>>6056451
>tfw you realise the only reason /lit/ is full of commies is because it's full of lazy mummy boy neets
Even though I grown out of my commie stage, it still effects me in a way, that I'm a jobless neet.
But on other hand, I'm an intellectual, I shouldn't work some menial job goddamnit.

>>6056458
man even Khrushchev didn't believe this myth, why are you still believing it?

[Anonymous No.6056476]

>>6056466
>even Khrushchev didn't believe this myth
>even Khrushchev
>even Khrushchev

[Anonymous No.6056480]

>>6056451

are you saying incentives don't matter? lel

Also it's not so simple as reduce welfare = immigrants leave, but it's a step in the right direction.

[Anonymous No.6056486]

>>6056476
>implying Khrushchev wasn't better at everything than Stalin.
He single-handedly defended Stalingrad mang!

[Anonymous No.6056487]

>>6056390
I don't NatSoc can be reasonably consider to be any sort of fascism, it doesn't come from fascism and it doesn't incorporate any fascist theory. NatSoc has its roots in anti-Semetic German nationalism that goes way back, and is combined with extreme populism produced by the German depression.

NatSoc is a reactionary ideology, fascism is a proactive ideology, it's not built upon getting back at enemies, be they rich, Jewish, or old war adversaries.

[G 0 D B L 3 ß !zR/LhJxu0Q No.6056512]

>>6056487
>not built on getting back at enemies
Yeah, all those communists, anarchists, and liberal democrats (not to mention homosexuals, feminists, and more) that were executed in Italy/Spain/Portugal/Latin America/etc. certainly wasn't Fascists exacting their anger on those that they were scapegoating for why their respective countries aren't empires anymore.
Also, saying that NatSoc wasn't a direct derivitve of Fascism is absolutely ridiculous. "Mein Kampf" clearly shows Hitler's admiration of Italian fascism as an inspiration.

[Anonymous No.6056519]

>>6056463
That's completely untrue. Nobody sane hates gays, social policy is an important element of any serious political movement and there aren't even any niggers here.

[Anonymous No.6056539]

>>6056512
Again, this really depends on what you're using as your criteria for "fascism", but it seemed like you were using Gentile's ideas.

I'm not sure whether you're talking about serious fascist theory, or simply ultra-right governments that have simply been lumped in with fascism, despite none actually calling themselves fascist except for Italy.

[Anonymous No.6056545]

>Syriza
>Marxist-Leninst
Toppest of keks.
Moderate-left demsoc liberals at it's best.

[Anonymous No.6056556]

>tfw not even a commie but sort of hoping for a revolution so I can line /pol/acks and SJWs up against a wall for betraying the proletariat

[G 0 D B L 3 ß !zR/LhJxu0Q No.6056562]

>>6056539
I can concede that fascism and natsoc have differences, but I consider them extremely similar (if not one being the progeny of the other). But I mean really:
>class collaboration
>statism
>collectivism
>corporatism (NatSoc is slightly more socialistic in actual implimentation)
Only difference I see is spiritual vs material racism.

[G 0 D B L 3 ß !zR/LhJxu0Q No.6056569]

>>6056556
>implying a frog posting shit poster like you wouldn't be put down. As a trip, I can confirm that we're both dying in the global revolution.

[Anonymous No.6056579]

>>6056556
The man with the plan.

Unfortunately if you go to tumblr, you'll see loads of SJWs and tumblrites claiming to be Marxist.

Picture somewhat related.

[Anonymous No.6056587]

>unironically supporting one of the most anti-intellectual ideologies out there

[Anonymous No.6056590]

>>6056562
Corporatism is not collectism, not nearly.

Fascism is not inherently racist, eve for the idea. Mussolini initially scoffed at racism, and the Charter of Carnaro expressly products people from racial discrimination.
>staitism
>class corroborating
These exist in liberalism as well

[Anonymous No.6056594]

>>6056587
>unironically supporting one of the most anti-intellectual ideologies out there
Do you mean Stalinism or Marxism in general?
I'd agree with Stalinism, not so much with marxism in general.

[Anonymous No.6056597]

But the 'fascist' will always win in the end.

[Anonymous No.6056610]

>>6056597
>this is what /pol/ actually believes.

[Anonymous No.6056613]

>>6056579
The last panel of that is cringeworthy as fuck, kid soldiers pointing their guns at the despicable bourgeois subjects. I agree with the comic 100%, but the last panel doesn't depict revolution, but negative sublation of capitalism: the replacement of individual self-interest based economy with one in which capital reproduces itself through immediate violence. The use of children as fetishized beacons of innocence makes this more than clear.

[Anonymous No.6056617]

>there will be no great revolutions in your lifetime

[Anonymous No.6056618]

>>6056610
But they do, just look at the Soviet Union.

[Anonymous No.6056619]

>>6056397
Podemos already dropped support of basic income, right?

[Anonymous No.6056622]

>>6056590
I explain more here
>>/lit/thread/S5974669#p5977670

But the underlying idealism makes a huge difference: to fascism, the nation is the creation of the people, the daughter of the people, not the father. The people must constantly be creating and maintaining it, they don't "owe" the nation anything.

[Anonymous No.6056629]

>>6056445
He was never elected. He took second place I thought.

[Anonymous No.6056641]

>>6056613
It's a bit out of context. It's from Action Philosopher which is pretty great intro for philosophy.
The whole Marx comic is a parody about kid going on an adventure, learning why capitalism works as it does.
But yeah, it could live without kid soldiers.

>>6056618
>But they do, just look at the Soviet Union.
I'm not sure what you're implying with that. That Soviet Union communism was more fascist, than Marxist? Yeah maybe.

>>6056619
Don't really know what they supported and what they stopped supporting. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.6056649]

>>6056618
What does this mean? you know Fascism doesn't mean some books get banned and there aren't elections

[Anonymous No.6056652]

>>6056594
Marxism in general is very anti-intellectual and basically just a big circle-jerk.

[Anonymous No.6056655]

>>6056579
Trotsky was an actual Marxist and they still ice-picked him. There's hope.

[Anonymous No.6056667]

>>6056641
Oh, that's what my girlfriend from Spain told me. She said that right now they're basically the same as the two other center left parties, but more popular right now.

[Anonymous No.6056672]

>Slovenian philospher Zizek proposes 'gulag' for those who do not support SYRIZA

kek, they'd almost be worth supporting if they did that.

[Anonymous No.6056682]

>>6056667
>She said that right now they're basically the same as the two other center left parties, but more popular right now.
That seems to be a general consensus at least on 4chan.
Loads of this new left parties just seem to be new centre-left parties, who weren't a part of blarian third way debacle, like most of social democrat parties.

[Anonymous No.6056683]

>>6056190
Why would you not be Hellenic, if you are a citizen in Greece? Other people should seek their interests in their countries.

[Anonymous No.6056717]

>>6056170
yeah fascism is eminently practical, thats why you took the capable workforce of 6 million jews and liquidized them

[Anonymous No.6056730]

>>6056717
Nazis were fagist, not fascist, pls.

[Anonymous No.6056732]

>>6055952
Syriza is a social-democrat party. the KKE are the real communists and they don't want to be in a coalition with Syriza because they want to fix capitalism, not destroy it.

[Anonymous No.6056742]

communism is literally "wahhhhhh I'm a victim wahhhhhhhhhh". Seriously you guys need to grow up, in 30-40 years time no one will have to work (in the west at least) thanks to technology but you guys will still be whinging about being victims to machines.

[Anonymous No.6056746]

>>6056682
Social democracy confirmed for failure 100% of the time.

[Anonymous No.6056758]

>>6056746
They were pretty successful before the third way.
But even at their greatest, the May 68 protests happened. So yeah.
It's ironic, that back then the commies and the marxsist were the ones protesting, and now the next generation of commies and marxists pine for the good old times.

[Anonymous No.6056771]

>>6056742

>in 30-40 years time no one will have to work (in the west at least) thanks to technology

where have i heard this one before? oh yeah, every year since the industrial revolution. and yet every year i have to work harder...

[Anonymous No.6056798]

Commies are fucking funny.

[Anonymous No.6056804]

>>6056742
>>6056798
Butthurt revisionist detected

[Anonymous No.6056811]

>>6056742
This is what they said would happen when they invented computers. Guess what happened? people did MORE work.

[Anonymous No.6056812]

is /lit/ a leftist board? I feel like it is the only thing close to a leftist board on 4chan. The rest of the site seems overrun by neo-nazis, NatSocs, an-caps and libertarians

[Anonymous No.6056818]

>>6056771
>where have i heard this one before? oh yeah, every year since the industrial revolution. and yet every year i have to work harder...

Well, in that anon's defense, when such statements were made around the time of the Industrial Revolution, they were more about how you'll be able to produce the same output with less input/work. Which was entirely true, but they didn't realize the world was going to want to increase output while maintaining input and not vice versa.

Now, in this context/time period, however, that anon is talking more about automation and AI, which is entirely different paradigm; it's not 'less input,' it's 'no input.'

[Anonymous No.6056828]

>>6056771
>I've been alive since the industrial revolution
You haven't had to work more and more every year, you just have a victimisation complex. Man up.

[Anonymous No.6056841]

>>6056811
>people did MORE work.
I dunno, better than the field or factory.

[Anonymous No.6056845]

>>6056742
>in 30-40 years time no one will have to work (in the west at least) thanks to technology

Yeah that's what JM Keynes thought in 1930. That by the end of the century we would all have a 15-hour work week due to technological advances.

http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/economics/keynes/1930/our-grandchildren.htm

[Anonymous No.6056847]

>>6056812
its probably the most leftist board, even though calling it leftist as a whole probably goes to far.

[Anonymous No.6056850]

>>6056812
Taking sides is stupid. From what I've seen people on /lit/ can fall on either side of any issue and that's great. We get actual debate instead of one-sided shit flinging.

But yes as a whole we lean somewhat left.

[Anonymous No.6056854]

>>6056845
most workers in america work part time, but it turns out working part time sucks and everyone is looking for more work...stop being a lazy euroshit and get a fucking job

[Anonymous No.6056870]

>>6056854
People are looking for more work because they can't survive off part time jobs not because they have a boner for working you retard.

Why do you even bother posting when you can't read the link that guy posted.

[Anonymous No.6056872]

Fuck all y'all tankies.
I remain optimistic.
If they reject austerity measures, they'll finally show the damn Germans.

[Anonymous No.6056881]

>>6056854
What does that have to do with the expectation that Keynes had that "full time" would be 15 hours a week due to tech?

[Anonymous No.6056882]

>>6056870
but people can survive working part time, you just have to accept a lower standard of living...which is why working less is never going to be "a thing" because some dude down the street is going to work more hours than you, buy a mustang, and fuck you wife, while you sit on the couch watching tv.

[Anonymous No.6056886]

>>6056882
my god, this is pure ideology

[Anonymous No.6056889]

>>6056886
>pure ideology
Not him but somebody explain this meme to me.

[Anonymous No.6056891]

>>6056881
an worker today probably does match the output of a worker from 1935 in about 15 hours, it's just everybody would rather keep working and have nicer shit than site around posting angsty shit on cartoon forums and be poor...

[Anonymous No.6056892]

>>6056882
>but people can survive working part time, you just have to accept a lower standard of living...

LOL

Actually if you live in the continental EU I forgive you, but if Anglosphere then it's hilarious how out-of-touch you are.

[Anonymous No.6056898]

>>6056889
it's from a slovakian comedian, kind of like on slashdot the old "in soviet union, X Ys YOU!" meme from yakob smirnov

[Anonymous No.6056907]

>>6056617
Any modern revolution will just end up like the Arab Spring. Either nothing changes or you are plunged in endless war.

[Anonymous No.6056927]

>>6056872
>Supporting Liberalism because of "muh tankies"

Trots will never learn

[Anonymous No.6056968]

>>6056891
>an worker today probably does match the output of a worker from 1935 in about 15 hours
Yeah and wages haven't kept pace with productivity so the gains have gone mostly to the owners of capital.

[Anonymous No.6056978]

>>6056968
>boohoo the money goes to capital

it's called capitalism not laborism, bro, but luckily in a free country like america you can just walk into a bank and be like "bro loan me some capital so i can start some shit" and they'll be like "aiight", you european shitlords should try it some time

[Anonymous No.6057001]

>>6056978
>it's called capitalism not laborism, bro
Yeah that why they made socialism.

[Anonymous No.6057011]

>>6056927
Tankies will never be satisfied, they are incapable of being around people, they will wait out the revolution in their mom's basement surrounded by their beloved SKS and bottles of cum. They are no different than stormfags.
The affirmations of Communism are basically liberal, it is liberalism that has ceased to be so after it's failure of affirming property for all. Communism only follows it to it's logical conclusion where it was willing to do so only as far as it preserved the interests of the bourgeois class.

[Anonymous No.6057018]

>>6057001
they made socialism to put the control of everything into some freedom killing faux-nobility bureaucracy, without freedom you don't have to feel like a loser for accomplishing nothing with your life because under feudalism and socialism that is mandatory, only capitalism exposes the sloth of the masses

[Anonymous No.6057020]

>>6056978
Wow are you literally Homer Simpson?

Not that I strongly disagree, debt slavery can probably work just as fine as dependence on state subsidies, or even better, all of which depends on processes beyond anyone's control.

[Anonymous No.6057030]

>>6057018
sort of like how black people used to be able to blame racism for being illiterate criminals, but now that racism has receded we can see that's just who they are as a people

[Anonymous No.6057036]

>>6057020
the economy expands through debt you fuck wit, if you're stupid and lazy and get stuck with a loan you can't payback that's capitalism punishing you for being a dumbass, better to be punished by bankruptcy than some stalinist firing squad, so sick of edgy leftist kids

[Anonymous No.6057054]

>>6057036
>they made socialism to put the control of everything into some freedom killing faux-nobility bureaucracy
There many varieties of socialism the Stalinist variety just killed the others.

>only capitalism exposes the sloth of the masses
If it was a matter of sloth then they would be slothful under any system and USSR would have never of presented a changed to the US.

[Anonymous No.6057057]

>>6057054
>If it was a matter of sloth then they would be slothful under any system and USSR would have never of presented a changed to the US.

the difference is under stalinism you can tell yourself you would be a rich famous engineer or movie star or something but evil stalin made you work in a factory, but in america you don't have that excuse, you work in a factory because you are talentless and lazy

[Anonymous No.6057061]

>>6057036
I don't think a firing squad is good, but capitalism is essentially a pyramid scheme at this point.

[Anonymous No.6057068]

>>6056091
Seriously, Zizek's meme status is wasted. People don't fucking listen to the guy and instead make dumb jokes about his very obvious coke habit

[Anonymous No.6057071]

>>6057036
The economy expands by debt, yes, but that tells us precisely dick about your prospects, as, guess what, the success of the economy is pretty damn detached from your own success within it. Unless a crisis hits, that is, because too many people had the same idea as you.

[Anonymous No.6057074]

>>6057057
>the difference is under stalinism
There was actually many chances for one to advance in power at the lower and upper levels in Russia and China. People have just joined the Party in China purely for power reasons. Do you understand how the USSR/China worked?

[Anonymous No.6057079]

>>6057057
>2015
>still believing that merit earns wealth
Rich kid detected. Take it from me, I'm a fucking hack and I'll still make ten times as much money as the most talented poor person.

[Anonymous No.6057086]

>>6056445
real men abandon all pretenses of flowery ideas like natural rights and freedom, instead devoting their resources to making Strong AI happen.

The Machines will save us. We will find our salvation in the machine

[Anonymous No.6057095]

>>6056452
you're a fucking idiot. We were like the only country that didn't do Austerity.

[Anonymous No.6057096]

>>6057079
>Rich kid detected. Take it from me, I'm a fucking hack and I'll still make ten times as much money as the most talented poor person.

you have a talent for being a hack, you give the people what they want, you might even say you...serve the masses! you create people's art and are rewarded for it, you shouldn't feel ashamed for being successful, do you live in some shitty european shithole?

[Anonymous No.6057101]

>>6056978
implying America is not the fucking definition of Social Democracy. We're the only country who's doing it half way sensibly

[Anonymous No.6057103]

>>6057096
"What the English call “comfortable” is something endless and inexhaustible. Every condition of comfort reveals in turn its discomfort, and these discoveries go on for ever. Hence the new want is not so much a want of those who have it directly, but is created by those who hope to make profit from it."

[Anonymous No.6057111]

>>6057074
yeah, by kissing people's asses; meanwhile in capitalism you provide the masses with the shit they want and you get paid, it's very "socialistic" if you think about it...i think communism appeals to college kids and professors because the communist party is like a giant elite university department, so people who thrive in elite academics would feel right at home climbing the corporate, i mean communist laddert

[Anonymous No.6057116]

>>6057111
>meanwhile in capitalism you provide the masses with the shit they want and you get paid,
This is silly, a lot of the wealth in capitalism comes from speculation in futures and real estate.

[Anonymous No.6057120]

>>6057103
i think it was andrew carnegie who said "capitalism is all about turning luxuries into needs" which sounds super spooky and evil to teen edgylords but what means is shit that only supreme elites had like cars, electricity, computers, cell phones, eventually trickles down to and becomes so ingrained in their standard of living that they can't live without out it.

[Anonymous No.6057123]

>>6057116
but just as much wealth can be lost in speculation and real estate, capitalism is a system that punishes people for being stupid and greedy and rewards them for being intelligent and practical...it's really fucking amazing if you think about it, god damn! capitalism is great!

[Evola « Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » Kid:The Usu(...) !vKJYJAzBlI No.6057124]

>poor country elects radical leftists
>somehow communism is back

It doesn't matter what contingency plan they choose, Europe will import enough muslims and radical traditionalism will return but this time with a middle eastern flavor. While Russia and slav countries lead the way in Christian nationalism

[Anonymous No.6057126]

>>6057116
what's speculation though? you're loaning your capital to someone who you think has a good idea and strong work ethic but no capital of their own...if they strike it big time you get paid back, if you backed a lazy loser with a bad idea you lose your cash...pretty fair really

[Anonymous No.6057131]

Why is this board so fucking bad?

>communists
>s4s-tier shitposting
>autism

[Anonymous No.6057135]

>>6057131
Why are you a shitposting retard?

[Anonymous No.6057140]

>>6057131
>communists
>bad

murika

[Anonymous No.6057146]

>>6057120
Hell even Marx wanted the revolution to happen naturally, once we get to a point where scarcity is no longer a problem, we'll see a natural communism.

[Anonymous No.6057149]

>>6057126
>lazy loser
I don't know why you keep bringing up the hard work/lazy dichotomy because no matter how hard you work or how much research you can still easily lose money. Taking success/failure as too much of a personal thing is one of the worst things you can do when it comes to stocks.

[Anonymous No.6057150]

>>6057124
I don't see why /pol/ hate Islam so much when it's everything they claim to want (minus the brown people)

[Anonymous No.6057151]

>>6057135
>disagreeing with me is shitposting

Figuratively kill yourself. Go on /pol/ if you want to circlejerk about your bankrupt ideology.

>>6057140
>he actually thinks Americans are the only ones who oppose communism

[Anonymous No.6057153]

In North Korea and Cuba 4chan is a luxury only available to the communist party elites, but in free countries like america even a hobo can find an internet cafe to browse the memes for pennies

[Anonymous No.6057159]

>>6057153
in free countries there are no hobos

[Anonymous No.6057161]

>>6057150
/pol/ isn't entirely fascist, and it's mostly comprised of Americans who want to get rid of blacks, leftism, and Mexicans, but keep Christianity and democracy.

[Anonymous No.6057162]

>>6057153
makesuthink

[Anonymous No.6057169]

>>6057159
being a hobo is a lifestyle choice, in stalinism you get forced labor, in america if you want to beg for change and get wasted every day you are free to do so, put that in your rotten communist pipe, asshole

[Anonymous No.6057177]

>>6057169
Inb4 people who don't live in America and/or have never personally known homeless people getting unreasonably mad

[Evola « Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » Kid:The Usu(...) !vKJYJAzBlI No.6057182]

>>6057150
>I don't see why /pol/ hate Islam so much when it's everything they claim to want (minus the brown people)


You haven't been on during muslim hour have you?

>2015
>not driving through Portland with other /pol/iticians wearing Kufi hats and blasting Nasheeds in search for alcohol
ISHYGDDT

[Anonymous No.6057185]

>>6057169
>Slavery to the self.
>Freedom.

[Anonymous No.6057190]

>>6057169
>people are poor by choice

thisiswhatamericansactuallybelieve

[Anonymous No.6057199]

>>6057190
>becoming a drunk isn't a personal choice!

[Anonymous No.6057201]

>>6057177
A homeless guy almost attacked me because I smiled at him. He thought I was laughing at him I think. But I just have a goofy smile. He was wearing a blanket and staring into a Subway so it should have made me sad, but the sun was also shining and the class I was going to had a qt in it so I was happy.

[Anonymous No.6057209]

>>6057190
Called it

[Anonymous No.6057212]

>>6057199
>Being mentally ill is a personal choice!

[Anonymous No.6057215]

>>6057159
Funny definition of 'Free' you have there

[Anonymous No.6057218]

>>6057212
Are you stupid? The mentally ill are put in asylums at the public expense, homelessness is overwhelmingly the result of poor decisions in one's past.

[Anonymous No.6057219]

>>6057212
>Anyone gives a fuck

[Anonymous No.6057223]

>>6057199
>be homeless

>born retarded

>parents and family dead

>tfw neckbeard on chan tells me to bootstrap harder

[Anonymous No.6057227]

>>6057169
Yes but it also doesn't promote ideals of individualism and delinquency so working brings you pride.

[Anonymous No.6057240]

>>6057223
>Lyf iz h4rd
That's nice faggot but you obviously have no idea what you're talking about and homeless people by-and-large choose to be that way. A good portion of of them retain EBT cards, which the occaisionally use to trade for more substances to abuse. Some live out of cars and work but refuse to stop drinking skoal. Bandage your hemorraging heart.

[Anonymous No.6057249]

How do we defeat the liberals/revisionists comrades?

[Anonymous No.6057252]

>>6057169
>being a hobo is a lifestyle choice
>in america if you want to beg for change and get wasted every day you are free to do so

>Loitering
US law, which defines loitering as "remain (ing) in any one place with no apparent purpose," gives police officers the right to disperse such persons and in case of disobedience, provided for a punishment by fine, imprisonment and/or community service.

>Vagrancy.
"prohibit activities such as sleeping/camping, eating, sitting, and begging in public spaces, usually including criminal penalties for violation of these laws." Violators of such laws typically incur criminal penalties, which result in fines and/or incarceration.

>Begging for food
At least 31 cities have criminalized feeding the homeless.

[Anonymous No.6057253]

>>6057249
FUCK OFF

[Anonymous No.6057254]

>>6057223
so we should force everyone to live in soul crushing stalinist nightmare because some retarded orphan might be inconvenienced? sounds pragmatic, bro

[Anonymous No.6057256]

>>6057249
>revisionism is bad
What happened to Marxism being a "science"?

[Anonymous No.6057257]

>>6057252
The land of the free.

[Anonymous No.6057262]

>>6057249
>Communists actually talking about other people being revisionists as if they aren't the most manipulative and dishonest political agents

You people are legitimately evil

[Anonymous No.6057269]

>>6057256
Revisionism is the Stalinist answer to everything they don't like. Even though Khrushchev and Brezhnev improved living standards, they're deemed revisionists for not causing the deaths of tens of millions like the great Mao and Stalin.

[Anonymous No.6057270]

>>6057240

Nice numbers and sources you have there. Oh wait do we not need them anymore?

like 80% of libertarians have undersized penises. See I can do it too!

[Anonymous No.6057271]

>>6057227
why do you fear "individualism"? are you some kind of social reject who needs the state to force people to be friends with you? sounds like the "delinquent" here might be YOU

[Anonymous No.6057278]

>>6057252
>At least 31 cities have criminalized feeding the homeless.

murika

[Anonymous No.6057279]

>>6057254

Nice false dichotomy bruh. I was arguing against people who make jokes about social democracy despite it being the most acceptable system we currently have.

I don't care, scarcity will be solved in 150 years, it's a temporary problem.

[Anonymous No.6057282]

>>6057270
You don't live in america, you have never known a single homeless individual, you are talking out of your gaping ass and damned proud of yourself for being blatantly ignorant and wrong. Speaking with you idiots is physically disgusting. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about but you're sure gonna do it becauase you were told you better feel badly for everyone or it's your fault. Stay brainwashed, I know you will.

[Anonymous No.6057290]

>>6057282
>implying there aren't homeless in other countries

[Anonymous No.6057294]

>>6057270
>Has no actual understanding of the situation, just (wrong) intuation
>LOL BUT GUYS DICKS

Absolutely unbelievable, but you somehow all really are the same little reality denying drones. How did they do this to you?

[Anonymous No.6057298]

>>6057290
Congratulations, by moving goalposts and reducing your arguments to "but dicks" and "cant no nuffinz", you have conceded. Thank you, consider not being retarded.

[Anonymous No.6057300]

>>6057282
live in Texas. In Austin fucking Texas. Can't walk half a mile without some dude begging for change.

Get out of the basement and try harder you fucking imbecile.

[Anonymous No.6057303]

>>6057300
and you know why there are so many homeless in "hip" cities like austin and san francisco? because you can tune in, turn on and drop out and no one is going to stop you if that's what you want to do with your life

[Anonymous No.6057304]

>>6057294
>expects me to believe every unsourced claim on the internet and treat it like gospel.

Suddenly all these internet libertarians make sense. I bet you invest heavily in bitcoin as well.

[Anonymous No.6057310]

>>6057304
first federally insured bitcoin exchange just opened in nyc, uh oh, looks like you eurofags missed the boat again, stay mad

[Anonymous No.6057315]

>>6057298
not the same person

[Anonymous No.6057321]

>>6057300
>Hurr durr basements lol I'm always right because I FEEL
Kek I have personally known four homeless people of various ages nevermind the various assosications of my fiance's schizophrenic mother (who has never been homeless despite muh mentally ill) and many couch surfers and country-touring vagabonds. I'm also intimately familiar with programs available to destitute, mentally ill or criminally convicted people. You >imply on 4chan and assume that all drunks in the gutter are "down on their luck" in a country that gives free housing to felons released from prison. You are ignorant, fallacious, and an absolutely repulsive human being. I know the only cure to being as retarded as you are is living until you "wake up", so good luck with your self-imposed naivety until then.

[Anonymous No.6057323]

>>6057310
Itt lolbertarians

[Anonymous No.6057327]

>>6057303
or because it's warm and hipsters love to patronize poor people?

[Anonymous No.6057330]

>>6057310
Not even in this conversation but if you honestly think Bitcoin will ever surpass fiat currency in terms of actual usefulness then you're a retard.

[Anonymous No.6057332]

>>6057321
You're a big pill huh?
K pill me pls

[Anonymous No.6057336]

>>6057310
>investing heavily in a deflationary currency because it's the future, despite it having no utility beyond buying drugs on the internet.

[Anonymous No.6057338]

>>6057303
There are so many homeless people in those cities because of gentrification and cuts to local services. Austin and San Francisco both have thriving tech industries, which is going to draw tech workers not only across the country, but from around the world. These people are able to pay for housing, which pushes so many poor and mentally handicapped people onto the streets. It isn't just because of some bullshit idea of lax standards that allow people to "drop out" of society.

[Anonymous No.6057339]

>>6057321

#rekt #pilledhard

[Anonymous No.6057340]

>>6057321
Sick anecdotal evidence brah

[Anonymous No.6057341]

>>6057182
Man we had fun man. After we dropped you off we saw two qt hijabi girls. Fuuuug

[Anonymous No.6057344]

>>6057330
Someone doesn't read the Wall Street Journal

[Anonymous No.6057347]

>>6057321

So the fact that 1/4 homeless people have a serious mental illness is nbd right?

What about the large percentages that a are teenage runaways who come from abusive families?

But nah, from a sample size of four you've accurately diagnosed 3 million people. Brilliant.

[Anonymous No.6057355]

>>6057344
Are you going to cite a totally rad Vice article on why Bitcoin is hella sick, too?

[NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM No.6057356]

when will you fucking european shitheads realize that the United States is the most patrician thing to happen in world history and is the culmination and end of human history

[Anonymous No.6057363]

>>6057347
where they mentally before or after they wasted their brain on the drugs? what percentage of homeless are drug users and criminals? it's funny to hear some forced labor stalinists and eugenic fetishizing fascists get all misty for the homless

[Anonymous No.6057364]

>>6057356
kek

[G 0 D B L E ß !zR/LhJxu0Q No.6057365]

>>6057182
Please tell me you mean Portland, Maine and not Portland, OR
I don't want more of your kind in my city

[Anonymous No.6057401]

who's the lil B of literature, and is he as based as the based god?

[Anonymous No.6057422]

what has this board become

[Evola « Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » Kid:The Usu(...) !vKJYJAzBlI No.6057466]

>>6057365
Nope Portland, Oregon

[G 0 D B L E ß !zR/LhJxu0Q No.6057578]

>>6057466
good thing im leaving after uni

[Evola « Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » Kid:The Usu(...) !vKJYJAzBlI No.6057592]

>>6057578
You go to PSU too?

[G 0 D B L E ß !zR/LhJxu0Q No.6057601]

>>6057592
yeah. sophomore phl major

[Anonymous No.6057612]

>>6056432
Zizek himself says that putting him in power would be awful. Unless you enjoy going to the gulag.

[Anonymous No.6057648]

>>6056011
I think I'm starting to understand ideology

[Anonymous No.6057652]

>>6057601
>>6057592

>tripfags

typical psu babbies

[Anonymous No.6057672]

Fascism is a reactionary movement.

i.e. When Syriza fails, Golden Dawn will be there to pick up the pieces.

[Anonymous No.6057675]

Do you guys honestly think Syriza is going to be any different from any other left wing party ever voted in? They'll lose nearly every seat in the next election (if there is one)

[Anonymous No.6057704]

>>6057672
Fascism is not reactionary.
The intense nationalism that is required for fascism stems from the French Revolution.

In both Italy and Germany, it was intensely anti-clerical.

I could go on, but it occurs to me that you have absolutely no idea what reactionary ideas are

[Anonymous No.6057719]

>>6057704
>In Italy, it was intensely anti-clerical.

Absolute pishposh.

[Anonymous No.6057723]

>>6057672
How is fascism not revolutionary?

[Anonymous No.6057762]

>>6057704
>it was intensely anti-clerical.

[Anonymous No.6057776]

>>6057704
Wasn't the Vatican given autonomy by Mussolini?

[Anonymous No.6057783]

>>6056290
You have great nazi boobs

[Anonymous No.6058053]

>>6057675
>neoliberals
>left wing
You must be american

[Anonymous No.6058125]

>>6057723

Fascism was a reaction to the failure of democracy and communism and sought to bring back the Roman empire in Europe.

Communism is a revolutionary death cult whose symapthisers overthrew Mussolini and killed 35,000 Italians without trial.

[Anonymous No.6058130]

>>6058125
It's called war, pleb.

[Anonymous No.6058134]

>>6058130

This is one way the revolutionary justifies his idolatry for murder-suicide.

[Anonymous No.6058148]

>>6058134
No it's the way everyone does.

[Anonymous No.6058211]

>>6057723
as Benjamin says, every fascism is a failed revolution. It starts with a genuine moment when man wants to take control of history, but ends with his submission to his reified consciousness

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.6058228]

>>6056290
>The future of who becomes Greek is more important. We've seen the failures of mass immigration and the multicult experiment in places like UK, Sweden, France and GREECE.

>>6057723
It's counterrevolutionary. But like >>6058211 says. The Bolshies went authoritarian, the US went Plutocratic. The majority, prole, always seem to get rolled.

[Anonymous No.6058282]

>>6056458
you call killing 20 million of your own people improving living conditions

[Anonymous No.6058290]

>>6058228
>It's counterrevolutionary.
I know a lot of people say this is banal bullshit, but it is 100% that if fascists didn't get to power in Spain, Italy and Germany, then every one of those countries would have fallen under control of socialists. In fact, fascists in Italy were specifically supported by the King to stop socialism.

[Anonymous No.6058677]

>>6058282
If the Irish cannot afford potatos them let them eat their young.

[Anonymous No.6059340]

>>6057218
>homelessness is overwhelmingly the result of poor decisions in one's past.
poor decisions such as drug abuse, alcohol addiction and violence are usually brought about not by a choice but a compulsion, stemming from their upbringing and the influence of contextual factors. Also are you claiming that addiction does not come under the umbrella term of mental illness?

[Anonymous No.6059397]

>>6055952
I'm so happy these loonies won. Now they can fuck Greece over even more with retarded economic policies and ensure Greece will stay a backwater third world shithole for at least the next hundred years.

I just wish West still had the backbone it had a hundred years ago and responded to it by sending in the troops and annexing Greek islands to get the debt repayment. And then sell off those islands to Turkey for maximum butthurt.

[Anonymous No.6059471]

>>6056020
The German National Socialist seemed to stage a pretty successful revolution, same with the Italian Fascists.

[Anonymous No.6059478]

>>6059471
NatSoc was elected, and shortly after a failed socialist revolution in Germany.

The King of Italy supported Italian fascists (and ultimately put them in power) specifically to stop socialism.

[Anonymous No.6059487]

>>6059471
it isn't successful if you can't stay in power

[Anonymous No.6059543]

>>6055952
You greeks can cosplay as communists as much as you want, but just remember: if you don't pay your debt, you're gonna get fucking #REKT

[Anonymous No.6059770]

>>6055952
i dont know much about these folks but all that the radio is mentioning is that they are not going to pay back the debt. this makes me giggle with glee. greece is standing up for itself against the west. impressive.

[Anonymous No.6059790]

>>6057783
lol

[Anonymous No.6060217]

>>6059543
>You germans can cosplay as Nazis all you want, but just remember, if you default on your war debt, that's totally okay you can act like a whiny lil bitch when they do the same thing 90 years later.

[Anonymous No.6060287]

http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/works/red-book/index.ht

Required reading

[Anonymous No.6060298]

>resorting to petty bourgeois parliamentarianism
>Greece is going down the path of Venezuela
>a revolution without a revolution

Lots of banners, flags, and speeches. Absolutely no real action.

[Anonymous No.6060310]

>>6058134
revolutionary war as opposed to racial genocide

[Anonymous No.6060316]

>Austerity is fascism!

[Anonymous No.6060335]

I've never really understood the appeal in anti-fascist literature/music/film etc...
Do you really need to be convinced fascism is bad?
Why don't they have anti-puppy killing literature? Both seem like beating a dead horse to me.

[truman !!cO9KVBDtkqQ No.6060365]

>>6060298
it's pretty clear the leaders of syriza know that 20th century communism is over. idiots will wave soviet flags at any opportunity, it doesn't mean they're going down the route of Venezuela. There's real opportunity to change things here.

That said, Greekfags why do your students completely lack basic academic etiquette?

[Anonymous No.6060369]

>>6060335
Some people are not convinced that fascism is bad.

[Anonymous No.6060387]

>>6060369
People who don't think fascism is bad probably haven't and won't read anti-fascist literature.

It's all just preaching to the choir.

[Anonymous No.6060395]

>>6060387
Recommendations of anti-fascism literature?
Preferably non-fiction.

[Anonymous No.6060409]

>>6060395
I don't read anti-fascist literature. As I said, I don't see the appeal.

I guess most anarchist and marxist literature is technically "anti-fascist" literature. So start there. Check out Lenin's State and Revolution.

[Anonymous No.6060448]

>>6056845
>I literally believe Keynes was a wizard that could predict the future

[Maring No.6062308]

>>6055952
Christ man... Are those LGBT flags? Unless gays are actually discriminated against under law, these trivial issues should really take the backseat and let people actually reform the economy. Looks like left-wing populism to me. God, I'd love to see some true communists coming to power so we could actually witness a country completely FUCK the EU. Would be beautiful.

[Anonymous No.6062436]

>>6056451
Hitler's military plans did tend to be pretty awful. He chose not to focus air force resources on creating a fighter to match or surpass the British Spitfire and that really cost them. Also, he figured Britain being isolated rather than conquered was good enough. Then there's the whole Russia thing which almost worked but ended up being a disaster.

Hitler's talent was definitely speeches. A former message runner shouldn't have been at the top of the chain of command of an entire world war.

[Anonymous No.6062487]

>>6056361
Why the fuck are you here?

[Anonymous No.6062496]

>>6056397
Sinn Fein have a chance to usurp the main leftist party and become the 3rd largest party in the Dail, the best they can hope is to be a minor partner in government (which is unlikely because they know how disasterous it is for the minor partners). They're not radical when to comes to EU politics anyway, they'll be keen to make it work if they ever where in government

[Anonymous No.6062504]

>>6062308

in the village next to mine there are 5 flags flown, of which one of them is the LGBT flag. It's also 4 times as big as all other flags.

Kind of pisses me off tbh

[Maring No.6062551]

>>6062504
And you're from Greece? If they so freely to up an LGBT flag that is dominant over all other flags, surely Greece is pretty tolerant of gays already...

[Anonymous No.6062579]

>>6062504
ARRRRGGGGH PENISES IN ASSHOLES
I AM MAD

[Maring No.6062602]

>>6062496
Are you from Dublin, by any chance? Were you at that Marxist festival in December? What's your opinion on the Socialist Party, Joe Higgins, United Left, Clare Daly and all that crowd?

I'm sticking with Sinn Féin right now. I don't like the Socialist Party because they present themselves as populist by jumping on all the LGBT and feminist horseshite. The others are just lowered in my eyes because they all associate themselves with these non-issues to an extent.

[Maring No.6062616]

>>6062579
Excuse me, sir, I believe this man is pissed off that they're trying to make gay rights the foremost concern of modern politics by putting up a gigantic flag which towers above all the other flags in the village. I don't recall him saying anything about gay sex.

[Anonymous No.6062673]

Why does this book receive so much praise?

It likely has the highest weighted rating on goodreads.

[Anonymous No.6062715]

>>6055974
>>6055983
>>6055995
Syriza is the party isn't communist but it is a Leftist coalition with communists and Tsipras is a communist, come on guys.

[Anonymous No.6062726]

>>6062496
As an English person I'm really hopping Sinn Fein win, I can't imagine how awkward David Cameron would be having meetings and photo ops with Gerry Adams.

[Anonymous No.6062755]

>>6058282
No, he was talking about the USSR under Stalin not capitalism in every country it takes root in. :^)