[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]

2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/lit/ - Literature

File: 9 KB, 90x90, WroxwHAs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Mon Jan 26 01:28:02 2015 No.6053281 [Reply] [Original]

How's the novel coming along, /lit/? Here's some food for thought-
Have you considered that maybe there are enough books in the world right now, and what you're writing is totally unnecessary? Isn't it kind of ridiculous to think that you of all people can add any kind of literary value to the world at this point? That you are wasting your time and should just give up?

Anonymous Mon Jan 26 01:31:31 2015 No.6053296

>>6053281
>How's the novel coming along, Proust? Here's some food for thought. Have you considered that maybe there are enough books in the world right now, and what you're writing is totally unnecessary? Isn't it kind of ridiculous to think that you of all people can add any kind of literary value to the world at this point? That you are wasting your time and should just give up?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 02:11:27 2015 No.6053409 >Implying there can ever be enough good books in the world Someone doesn't read

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 02:14:05 2015 No.6053415 i had a similar tought when i was 12 everything we need is already invented, why try to invent new things?

>>	seabiscuit Mon Jan 26 03:47:40 2015 No.6053655 Music is at least 35,000 years old. If music hasn't yet run stale, I think literature can keep it going for a while.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 03:51:47 2015 No.6053665 For now I've given up on writing for the exact reasons you mention. Though I wasn't writing a novel. Someone else either has done it better or will do it better than I ever will. So I'll stick to shitposting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 03:57:31 2015 No.6053676 >>6053665 How is someone going to do it better if you dont inspire them? I swear most of you people don't have a clue how storytelling actually works.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 03:59:08 2015 No.6053679 >>6053281 Because if you have something to say at least one person will find it valuable. Success isn't measured by the quantity of love from many, but by the quantity of love from one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 04:00:53 2015 No.6053684 >>6053679 woah

Anonymous Mon Jan 26 04:03:53 2015 No.6053689

>>6053676
None of my ideas are original. I'm sure someone will come along reading similar texts to what I've read and be inspired in a similar vein but be much more informed and capable than I ever will be. Even if I wrote the book I've kicked around for years no one would read it, so no one would be inspired by me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 04:11:25 2015 No.6053703 >>6053679 I like this

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 04:20:31 2015 No.6053734 >not writing a novel just for the fun of writing it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 04:21:22 2015 No.6053738 >>6053734 I'm too self critical to do that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 04:23:17 2015 No.6053745 >>6053738 I used to be like that too, my writing became a lot better when I stopped caring about that. But I am still a perfectionist, I hate most of what I've written but the process was fun.

Anonymous Mon Jan 26 04:26:02 2015 No.6053751

Completed a 50k word novel. Rejected by around a dozen agents and publishers so far. Waiting to hear back from two more, and submitting it to one or two more places before moving on to write a book that's quite different. It sucks because I keep up with contemporary literature in my country and there are so many shitty books being published, yet mine has been judged to be shitty. Oh well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 04:26:50 2015 No.6053753 >Wow, noone has ever seen something like this before. >You need to finish this now! Comment from a succesfull writer as he gave me critique for my first draft.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 04:28:01 2015 No.6053757 >>6053753 Epic

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 04:31:01 2015 No.6053766 >tfw I would love to write a novel >literally have no original ideas or any starting point What's the use

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 04:34:07 2015 No.6053774 >>6053766 step up fgt

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 05:32:48 2015 No.6053915 File: 1.68 MB, 300x259, 1414201528623.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw you finally fixed the plot hole in your novel

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 09:07:58 2015 No.6054424 What's the point of this thread, seriously? Is OP just a douchebag who wants people to be uncreative and unmotivated?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 09:13:07 2015 No.6054435 File: 36 KB, 409x409, 1364603357241.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6053915 >his novel has a plot

傘 !zYHpFDC98U Mon Jan 26 11:51:28 2015 No.6054954 [DELETED]

File: 28 KB, 497x280, 10428564_561638733939001_5172833352709247782_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>6053766
>>6053665
Originality is impossible at this point, and if you somehow manage it over-rated or indecipherable. I really don't understand why new writers try so hard to be "100% original' when writing is all about stealing concepts from a thousand different things and making something else out of it. You do this whether you want to or not, as you have to read. So this isn't a problem. You're just afraid of failure.

You're going to be shit at the start anyway. No one expects anything else.

>>6053665
People have been writing for thousands of years. This has probably a thought that has ran through the minds of the successful bunches of times but it never stopped them from writing.

If you want to do it do not stop yourself, someone is always going to be "better" than you in almost anything. That's how life works.

Anonymous Mon Jan 26 11:58:15 2015 No.6054977

Are you guys seriously caring about originality?

Wasn't that the trend, like, more than fifty years ago?

Just write novels for what you desire. If you desire originality, know that it is a baseless desire, and behave and feel accordingly. I'm writing for money, for example. Still having fun.

傘 !zYHpFDC98U Mon Jan 26 11:58:38 2015 No.6054978
File: 28 KB, 497x280, 10428564_561638733939001_5172833352709247782_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>6053766
>>6053689
Total originality is over-rated and nearly impossible at this point and hardly anyone expects it. I really don't understand why new writers try so hard to be "100% original' when writing is all about stealing concepts from a thousand different things and making something else out of it. You do this whether you want to or not, as you have to read. So this isn't a problem. Don't be afraid of taking ideas from other things. EVERYONE does it. Those weirdos that refuse to read so it doesn't "influence" them don't end up being worth shit.

>>6053665
People have been writing for thousands of years. This has been a thought that has ran through the minds of the successful bunches of times but it never stopped them from writing.

If you want to do it do not stop yourself, someone is always going to be "better" than you in almost anything. That's how life works. You have to actually TRY.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 12:02:03 2015 No.6054987 >>6054978 Mostly accurate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 13:04:58 2015 No.6055205 >>6054424 To separate the unmotivated and the ones who do it for the wrong reasons from the ones whose writing will be worth reason. If you're gonna give up because of such a thing you were never any good to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 13:20:27 2015 No.6055281 >>6053655 >If music hasn't yet run stale But it has. Bad.

>>	MR Mon Jan 26 13:32:30 2015 No.6055324 >>6055281 > but it has How so?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 13:33:23 2015 No.6055327 >>6055324 Open the radio?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 13:41:27 2015 No.6055352 >>6055327 That's like judging literature by the NY Times bestsellers list. Stupid shitty argument.

MR Mon Jan 26 13:42:33 2015 No.6055356

>>6055327
The radio is like the musical equivalent of Stephanie Meyer books.
You can't expect masterpieces to be made by the minute, but there is still great music nowadays (just take the new Interpol album for example, doesn't matter if you like them or not - I don't - but it's all in all a really good album).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 14:42:44 2015 No.6055620 File: 392 KB, 1920x1080, Risk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6053281 I can't know unless I try, now can I?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 16:39:16 2015 No.6056263 >>6055281 What is Arvo pärt? What is Steve Reich? Do you plebs assume music of artistic importance is dead?

Anonymous Mon Jan 26 16:42:41 2015 No.6056278

>>6053281
Have you considered that you might dissuade someone genuinely talented (remember Kafka) from going ahead and writing a new important work? and that all this aggression that you aim at strangers (and that might get leveled at me ("do YOU really think you will write a masterpiece?")) is a result of your own frustrations?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 16:43:07 2015 No.6056281 >>6056263 Pärt is only pärtly good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 16:48:00 2015 No.6056303 >>6056278 He's a writer who wants us to do all the work and convince him not to give up. Best ignored.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 17:44:00 2015 No.6056538 >>6056281 Hähä. I admire most of his work. Adam's lament is pretty goat tier. IS there a specific piece you don't find convincing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 17:51:50 2015 No.6056571 >>6053751 what's it about?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 18:15:34 2015 No.6056688 >>6056538 The only one I know and like happens to be The Deer's Cry. Sorry, musical pleb here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 20:12:20 2015 No.6057284 >>6053679 deep

Advanced search
Text to find
Subject [?]Search by post subject. Leave empty for any.
Username [?]Search for user name. Leave empty for any user name.
Tripcode [?]Search for tripcode. Leave empty for any.
Email [?]Search by email. Leave empty for any.
Filename [?]Search by image filename. Leave empty for any.
From Date [?]Enter what date to start searching from. Format is YYYY-MM-DD
To Date [?]Enter what date to start searching until. Format is YYYY-MM-DD
Image hash
Search in	All Posts OPs Only
Deleted posts	Show all posts Show only deleted posts Only show non-deleted posts
Internal posts	Show all posts Show only internal posts Show only archived posts
Order	New posts first Old posts first
Capcode	All Posts Only by Users Only by Mods Only by Admins Only by Developers
Results	Posts Threads
Action	[ Simple ]