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Anonymous Mon Jan 19 23:00:52 2015 No.6026166 [Reply] [Original]

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 23:02:10 2015 No.6026171 what's the problem?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 23:02:15 2015 No.6026172 File: 271 KB, 1914x828, 1421357841254.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Mon Jan 19 23:03:28 2015 No.6026179 >>6026166 In the philgen threat, please.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 23:04:22 2015 No.6026183 >>6026179 you made /lgbt/ worse

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » Mon Jan 19 23:35:47 2015 No.6026327 >>6026183 Hardly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 23:41:21 2015 No.6026360 >>6026327 no u

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:07:34 2015 No.6026443 >>6026166 >pull lever at the last moment so the trolley veers off the changing tracks and kills everyone

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:14:02 2015 No.6026466 File: 328 KB, 1353x976, multitrack drifting.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6026443 this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:16:16 2015 No.6026477 File: 12 KB, 200x263, Zizy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6026166 What would Zizek do?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:16:23 2015 No.6026478 wait, which way is the train going?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:19:01 2015 No.6026489 File: 50 KB, 407x286, the trolley of trickery.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:25:53 2015 No.6026524

Judith Jarvis Thompson made this much more interesting:
>As before, a trolley is hurtling down a track towards five people. You are on a bridge under which it will pass, and you can stop it by putting something very heavy in front of it. As it happens, there is a very fat man next to you – your only way to stop the trolley is to push him over the bridge and onto the track, killing him to save five. Should you proceed?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:29:04 2015 No.6026532 >>6026524 I would push the fat guy even if there was no trolley in sight. Just in case

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:30:47 2015 No.6026536 >>6026524 actually that made it stupid. flesh can't stop a car much less a train on tracks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:31:23 2015 No.6026538 >>6026536 I don't think you understand how fat this man is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:36:29 2015 No.6026558 >>6026538 how are you gonna push him on the tracks then? checkmate

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:37:03 2015 No.6026561 >>6026166 i can't help but think of the woman who let the terrorists in the Charlie Hebdo magazine HQ. gun to her and her kid's heads, if she doesn't give up the pass code there's a minimum of at least 10 less people dead.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:38:44 2015 No.6026564 >>6026558 you're hypotetical self is a /fit/ 6'4. u can do it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:39:05 2015 No.6026565 >>6026558 He is right at the very edge of the bridge. A sneeze would be enough to make him fall. Who knows why he's even there? Maybe he wants to die anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:39:43 2015 No.6026566 File: 68 KB, 738x485, tram suicide.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » Tue Jan 20 00:41:16 2015 No.6026576

>>6026478
We don't even know.

The correct answer is to watch in horror. DO NOTHING. It isn't up to you.

If there was some variable, like you can switch it to the one person but you can go over there and pull them away... But there isn't. Kill one or many: The answer is NO.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:42:40 2015 No.6026581 >>6026576 this only makes sense to u because you're a women. the correct course of action is to do whatever is necessary to injure less people. utilitarianism ftw

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:45:49 2015 No.6026596 >>6026576 do u have a qt gf

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:46:58 2015 No.6026601 >>6026576 classic female reaction. and i dont mean anything sexist by that, just that society has conditioned you into a submissiveness to your circumstances.

« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » Tue Jan 20 00:50:39 2015 No.6026622
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>>6026581
But then we get into the; what if it's your mother, or what it's an pretty woman, and the group are all males, old, ugly, dark skinned etc.
Value judgements get in your way.

I'd do what I could in a real world scenario, but for this questionnaire, I choose to not take the responsibility for it. Someone else set this up, not I.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:51:44 2015 No.6026629 >>6026601 what if it was biological imperatives that made society adopt this paradigm?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:53:09 2015 No.6026638 File: 64 KB, 787x317, trolley.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what do

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:53:28 2015 No.6026641 File: 110 KB, 640x1136, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how easy is the decision now?

Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:54:56 2015 No.6026645

>>6026622
these conjectures are not present in the original question, so I assume it's just random people. If I cannot make any judgements regarding them, I would act as I said earlier, trying to save as many as possible. And you cannot "choose to not take the responsibility for it", the responsibility is already there, what you chose was to be negligent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:56:25 2015 No.6026652 >>6026638 switch to the left so the five have longer to live.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:58:05 2015 No.6026661 >>6026652 but the quality of that time will be awful

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 00:59:09 2015 No.6026665 >>6026638 make the train go really fast so it derails around that corner before it can hit the 5

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » Tue Jan 20 01:00:16 2015 No.6026670 File: 66 KB, 506x267, Switch yard dilemma 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6026645 So they all wear a Guy Fawkes mask. I see. My negligence but your murder.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:01:39 2015 No.6026674 >>6026670 thats racist

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:01:52 2015 No.6026675 >>6026661 Not necessarily, they might not even know the track is looped. Also it increases the likelihood of their survival, even if only infinitesimally.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:02:22 2015 No.6026678 quickly eat the ice cream (starting with the chocolate and ending with vanilla if time permits), and leave the cones to a gruesome, flaky death

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:03:13 2015 No.6026682 >>6026675 >they might not even know the track is looped. They will totally know that a bunch of blood and limbs go flying all over them

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:03:51 2015 No.6026685 >>6026670 why do they wear the mask?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:04:52 2015 No.6026687 >>6026682 They may just think it was the other hapless bastard and this means they are saved.

Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:05:51 2015 No.6026692

what if you eere on a bout and you had a button to blow up the other bout that has the prosoners and theg have the same button and if they press it first they get blowd up but if you do they do and if you both dont the joker does and batman aka dubs guy cant save you

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:07:06 2015 No.6026696 File: 219 KB, 2048x1536, 1421338959944.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6026685

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:07:50 2015 No.6026700 I'd make the train run over the one person because I'd rather save five instead of just one.

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » Tue Jan 20 01:08:27 2015 No.6026702 File: 254 KB, 928x1375, Confessions+of+a+Mask_Yukio+Mishima.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6026685 To keep people from using value judgments apparently

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:08:46 2015 No.6026704 >>6026700 look at this retard

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:09:17 2015 No.6026707 File: 162 KB, 1199x869, 140522630784.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:09:41 2015 No.6026710 >>6026687 then is it right to make people optimistic in the face of a dark future?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:11:40 2015 No.6026714 >>6026702 or perhaps he is wondering why someone would judge a man before running him over with a trolley.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:14:42 2015 No.6026719 File: 1.85 MB, 254x172, trolley disaster.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the real trolley problem

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:16:14 2015 No.6026725 >>6026696 If I pull that lever, will they die?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:16:33 2015 No.6026727 >>6026696 kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:19:09 2015 No.6026733 File: 323 KB, 1269x776, trolley2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:21:50 2015 No.6026741 File: 374 KB, 1269x776, Not really a tough choice.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6026733

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:23:12 2015 No.6026745 >>6026741 You're shit, you missed loads of them

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:26:41 2015 No.6026755 File: 34 KB, 421x325, mobius trolle.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:27:53 2015 No.6026762 File: 76 KB, 959x573, hedonist trolley.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6026755

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:29:36 2015 No.6026766 File: 71 KB, 506x267, katie.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:33:08 2015 No.6026772 >>6026766 >let the train kill the 5 people >convert Katie to patrician status as she struggles adorably with her restraints

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:37:06 2015 No.6026785 >>6026772 >let the train kill the 5 people >tell Katie that she should bear 5 children now to compensate the loss of manpower

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:38:24 2015 No.6026789 >>6026785 d-do you mean with her fiancee?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:41:57 2015 No.6026804 >>6026789 obviously not. the best gene pools require diversity

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:50:52 2015 No.6026817 >>6026766 >let the five die >drag her home >chain her in my dungeon >make her eat dark chocolate and read Pynchon to her

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:52:56 2015 No.6026822 >>6026804 Are you suggesting that you should run a train on her?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 02:38:24 2015 No.6026942 >>6026581 hes not a woman m8

>>	kitty !kitty/EnNg Tue Jan 20 02:43:48 2015 No.6026954 >>6026581 how about its further development, a fat man problem, when to save 5 persons you should catch and drop a fat man before the train? would you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 02:45:34 2015 No.6026961 >>6026942 butterfly is actually a transphobic shitlord

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 04:13:51 2015 No.6027129 >>6026641 lel

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 04:14:59 2015 No.6027133 >>6026719 i love reaction of the guy on right. >My god, what are we gonna do about that honey bunny?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 04:26:48 2015 No.6027163 >>6026707 what is the artistic meaning behind this image?

G 0 D B L 3 ß !zR/LhJxu0Q Tue Jan 20 04:58:02 2015 No.6027201

The only correct option is to jump in front of the train yourself.
Assuming you stop the train, you will be regarded as a hero and can escape your constant struggle against inner scpeticism and indecisiveness against Ontology and Metaphysics (and you will be guilt free).
Assuming you fail it will kill the five anyway, so you can retain a deontic perspective. This is also a plus for anti-natalists.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 05:08:19 2015 No.6027221 >>6026564 If I'm that big, I would throw myself in front of the train. My heroic sacrifice saves the five people, and I go out in a blaze of glory. Feeding my ego maximizes my utility.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 05:28:05 2015 No.6027251 >>6026710 yes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 05:30:03 2015 No.6027256 >>6026766 I would switch it to kill katie, saving /lit/ from itself and becoming the hero /lit/ deserves in the process.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 11:43:15 2015 No.6027468 >>6027251 how

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 11:56:46 2015 No.6027524 The continuation of your species > your current emotional bond It's the one guy If both groups die: choose the group based on your emotional whim.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 13:57:29 2015 No.6027972 >>6026641 topkek

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 13:58:30 2015 No.6027980 >>6027163 benis in bagina :DDD is inevitable like train on track xD

>>	OP Tue Jan 20 14:04:15 2015 No.6028010 >>6026725 It will be extremely painful

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