Okay, so a little help for a amature writer?

[Anonymous No.600122]

So, I'm like writeing this book where the Confedaracy and the Union ended the war in a tie, and they live side by side, with some rules like there being no slavery. I need help on comeing up with ways the CSA would get better and not raceist.

[Anonymous No.600131]

Racism exists no matter what. I don't think confederates were inherently racist, although I'm sure many were. The Union states weren't much better in that respect. I would imagine the CSA would have had to increase manufacturing in order to compete with the USA. The south had some nice culture. It wasn't a hell hole by any means. The federal government is still too controlling, imho.

[Anonymous No.600126]

>ended the war in a tie
you have no idea how war works, do you.
Also, read Guns of the South

[Anonymous No.600135]

>amature
>comeing
>raceist
>implying that the Confederacy would even exist after conceding that slavery be abolished
0/10

[Anonymous No.600146]

oh you, trolls, you make my life(e).

[Anonymous No.600150]

How about one of the big European powers gets involved and the Union gets overwhelmed.

[Anonymous No.600175]

>>600150
Britain wanted the south to win. A book where Britain aids the south would be interesting. I don't know if the union would ever give up though. They would basically lose all of there tax revenues. The tariffs from the south were too important for them.

[op No.600218]

how can a war end in a tie? i dont get it

[Anonymous No.600274]

>>600218

[Anonymous No.600497]

>>600218
It's fantasy. You don't ask how Jesus-Lion talks, so just use your imaganation.

[Anonymous No.600511]

>>600218

Ain't y'all never heard of them status quo ante bellums?

[Anonymous No.600541]

Normally we /lit/fags are glad to help, but if you don't show any effort to correct your spelling/grammar with something as simple as spell check then fuck off.

[Anonymous No.600563]

>>600126
Turtledove at his best.

[Anonymous No.600597]

>>600563
>a billion years to write even one sub par book

lol no

[Anonymous No.600632]

>>600175
I don't think Britain really 'wanted' anyone to win, per se; I think they were looking out more for gaining a profit than anything. It just got harder and harder justifying supporting the south as the North took more and more of an 'anti-slavery stance'.

Then Jefferson had the brilliant idea of passing an embargo of all cotton exports, so Britain was like "Ok then, fuck off."

And OP, why would the Confederates have to change? "Get better"? Why do you think they'd even give up slavery?

[Anonymous No.600635]

>>600122

>a tie

[Anonymous No.600638]

>>600632

They just wanted to see their competitor (and former colony) splinter and fail.

[Anonymous No.600647]

>>600497

>HAVEN'T YOU EVER HEARD OF SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF

[Anonymous No.600670]

>>600511
But status quo ante bellum would mean a north victory, wouldn't it?

[Anonymous No.600695]

Simple, international pressure from Britain and France causes the South to concede and free all slaves.

The South's status as a pariah nation would have been detrimental to their status in the developed world. They would have done it eventually. Though how they would do it, though, that's another question.

[Anonymous No.600701]

>>600670

You're a clever one.

[Anonymous No.600790]

>>600632
Because I want them to be good guys.

[Anonymous No.600802]

>>600122
>I'm ashamed of my home-state, /lit/, help me write a Mary-Sue novel for it!

[Anonymous No.600824]

>>600802
No, no, I just like them. You see, I want it to be about two Confedarate fighters fighting during WWII. I will admit I based the charecters after me and my cousin.

[Anonymous No.600847]

>>600824
OP, gotta admit, you are one funny troll.

[Anonymous No.600852]

http://www.csathemovie.com/index2.html

[Anonymous No.600857]

>>600847

Holy shit I remember that game! One of those edutainment games they had on the school computer. No idea what it was called.

[Anonymous No.600863]

>>600847

Morty Maxwell and the Master of Mischief are samefags.

[Anonymous No.600891]

The South's economy depended very heavily on slavery and after DC posted embargoes and tariffs they went "Fuck that shit" and seceded. The Civil War's primary cause was state rights vs. federal power. The South hated how northern "Yanks" had all the power to control the nation as a whole and give the northern states an advantage.

If the war ended in a peace treaty and two nations, it'd be very difficult for the South to survive without slave labor. They might get by with "wage slaves" like Northern factories used to.

With the Union and Confederacy in such close proximity and economic competition, the Confederacy would probably continue to fester and sink. This economic pressure would send millions of immigrants from South to North.

I'm just speculating at this point but hopefully it gives you ideas, OP

[Anonymous No.600898]

>>600632
Slavery was becoming less and less economic with the industrial revolution and better farming machinery. You have to feed a slave, house a slave, supervise them, keep em from escaping, hunt down escaped slaves..

[Anonymous No.600900]

>>600863
STFU bitch before I send you back to the beginning of the game just to collect all of my shit again.

You will come to know Treasure Mountain, cock-knocker.

[Anonymous No.600932]

op, good idea! go for it, i cant wait to read it. tell me when its publihsed!

[Anonymous No.600952]

Even without the war, slavery would have collapsed in a decade or less. New equipment and methods were coming about to handle farming more quickly than people could. The biggest problem facing the Confederacy as a nation would be poverty and complete lack of industrialization. There were no factories to speak of, all of that came from the North, so the means to produce or purchase farming equipment would have been needed. The war left the southern economy completely trashed, their currency was worth fuck all, and even had it been considered valid, there was nothing to back it with. Find any family that's been in the south since the 19th century and they'll show you a trunkful of useless Confederate paper.

Also, many people within the short lived Confederate government were abolitionists. Most notably; General Lee. Bobby was a classy dude.

The war ending peacefully with a treaty would need to completely change everything about Lincoln and what he stood for. He believed in holding the Union together above all else, which is why the war was as bloody and awful as it was.

Also, OP, you need to worry about your spelling before anything else.

[Anonymous No.600964]

epic troll.

good job, winrar

[Anonymous No.601044]

>writeing
>Confedaracy
>comeing
>raceist