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[Anonymous No.5998923]

If you had to adhere to a Greek school of philosophy, which one would you choose and why?

[Anonymous No.5998946]

Stoicism

[Anonymous No.5998957]

>>5998923

>Stoicism

This, as a practical philosophy it was actually somewhat succesful. I don't know if I can say that about any other kind of philosophy.

[Anonymous No.5998960]

if the homo greco were such a superior species why were they driven to extinction by the homo romanicus?

[Anonymous No.5998965]

>>5998957
Epicureanism was pretty useful and didn't rely on a theological justification.

[Anonymous No.5998968]

Aristotlean virtue ethics by a long shot.

[Anonymous No.5998971]

>>5998960
They had the pelopennese war, and later on Macedon conquered them. Later on the Byzantine empire basically became united Greece.

Greece in all ways possible has survived roman society.

[Anonymous No.5998987]

>>5998971
Wasn't Rome a greek city state? So weren't the romans technically greeks that split off and stopped calling themselves greeks?

[Anonymous No.6001978]

>>5998923
I would be a later epicurean who revived Heraclitus.

[Anonymous No.6001991]

>>5998923
pythagoreanism

[Anonymous No.6002004]

>>5998923
logic

>neckbeard.jpg

[Anonymous No.6002013]

>>5998968
>>5998968

[Anonymous No.6002018]

>>6002004
not a school.

[Anonymous No.6002026]

>>5998923
Pyrrhonian skepticism

[Anonymous No.6002076]

lol, there is just no wrong answer (except maybe platonism, sophism, and cynicism).

[Anonymous No.6002087]

>>5998957
They had pretty good logic, apparently.

If I had to choose a school of philosophy ?
I'd like to answer stoicism or epicureanism (or even cynism for badassery) but in all honesty what I need right now is Aristotelian virtue, and what I am is closer to a weird blend of sophism and skepticism.

[Anonymous No.6002089]

>>6002076

There's nothing wrong with Cynicism.

[Anonymous No.6002093]

>>6002076
>Platonism
>wrong

[Anonymous No.6002098]

>>6002093

Right, because the meaning of human is 'a featherless biped with broad flat nails'

Dumbass.

[Anonymous No.6002153]

>>6002076
>>6002089
>>6002093
>sophism
>wrong
They were the first to separate physis and nomos and reflect on the separation philosophically, which is a huge fucking deal for a whole history of political philosophy, and they already had various different and opposing "might is right" theories.

[Anonymous No.6002177]

>>6002153

That's nice, but sophism is still shitty and barely even philosophy. Go away.

[Anonymous No.6002237]

>>5998923
fuck the system man, just give me a good barrel to live in

[Anonymous No.6002250]

>>5998923
Whichever one had the best boipussi

[Anonymous No.6002251]

>>6002237

[Anonymous No.6002258]

Hard Knocks

[Anonymous No.6002265]

>>6002251
go to bed, Plato

[Anonymous No.6002320]

>>5998965
>Epicureanism
the least degenerate

[Anonymous No.6002338]

Stoicism for sure, I already dabble in it a lot

[Anonymous No.6002361]

>>5998923
Again, we have a philosophy thread for this kind of thing >>6001504

[Anonymous No.6003438]

>>6002177
kiddy corrupter pls go

[Anonymous No.6003928]

>>6002265

Pretty sure that's Diogenes.

[Anonymous No.6005972]

>>6003928
Sure it. Of all the ancient Greek philosophies I'd go with the cynics (but only Diogenes' version).

>public masturbation

I could also get on board with what Heraclitus was up to if we are including pre-Socratics.

[Anonymous No.6005989]

Aristippus

I think you know why.

[Anonymous No.6006023]

>>6005989

I don't. Care to elaborate?

[Anonymous No.6006029]

>>6006023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4EsvEgPZ84

[Anonymous No.6006077]

>>6006029
kek. I figured that's what it was but thought maybe there was an amusing anecdote I wasn't aware of.

[Anonymous No.6006096]

>>6003928
It is. But only Socrates would call Diogenes an asshole
Cynicism all day

[Anonymous No.6006101]

Empiric school.

[Anonymous No.6006102]

>>6006077
I get to sleep at night through orgasm of increasingly esoteric origin. I eat whatever tastes best and I spend my money on several types of recreational drugs. amphetamines and otherwise. I've never worked a day of manual labor in my life and I speak with a detached wry tone. I enjoy looking down on people that "work" for a living.

[Anonymous No.6006125]

>>6006096
>It is. But only Socrates would call Diogenes an asshole
Pretty sure Nietzsche who despised Socrates also didn't hold Diogenes in high regard. Diogenes was a reaction to people losing political power, the key term being "reaction".

[Anonymous No.6006380]

>>6006102
It doesn't sound like you're being a rational, social animal, brother. Remember: pleasure is fleeting, and just as quickly you'll be dead. The only true happiness in life is to become part of the Whole, and life in agreement with nature.

[Anonymous No.6006412]

>>6006380
I'll stick to my Asian mollusk porn and you can stick to being a productive member of society. We'll see who dies happier.

[Anonymous No.6006544]

>>6003438
10/10

[Anonymous No.6006764]

>>5998923

Plato's, before it was corrupted by Alexander the Great's racist tutor.

[Anonymous No.6006798]

>>6006125
Apprently he mentioned Diogenes as one of the closest humans to the Übermensch, and said Diogenes must have lived the greatest life ever.

[Anonymous No.6006822]

>>6006798
Source?

[Anonymous No.6006839]

>>5998923
The one that lets you fuck little boys. Or do they all allow that?

[Anonymous No.6006864]

>>6006839
>Or do they all allow that?

Most are cool with fucking young men/boys.

Except Stoics cause Stoics are buzz kills.

[Anonymous No.6006915]

>>6006839
This idea that they were totally obsessed with fucking boys is projections of our own times. Their relations were that of a mentor and a student, the mentor teaching the student how to live a good life ethically and aesthetically. This also included training in pleasures, which is where our projected idea comes from. Mentors preferred beautiful boys not as much out of self-interest but because the beautiful ones had higher potential for a good aesthetic life, they were better students so to speak.
You just to have to keep in mind that the Greeks were all about being powerful, leading a beautiful life, and being in control of yourself. Greek hedonism was also far removed from ours, their pleasure was disciplined and economical. (Whereas today our hedonism leaves many quite unsatisfied.)

[Anonymous No.6006959]

>>6006915
Yeah, but I mean, olive oil was on of the few things produced in those ancient times, meanwhile they had all that prime young aesthetically pleasing boypussy, and you're telling me they refused because they were disciplined? lol, who the fuck uses olive oil for cooking?

[Anonymous No.6007015]

>>6006959
Lol, they didn't refuse, I'm just saying their perception, goals, and practice were quite different.
And discipline doesn't mean asceticism. Asceticism often comes from the lack of discipline ("can't control myself, better not indulge").

[Anonymous No.6007088]

>>5998923
Platonism, seeing as how I adhere to it anyways.
And there isn't a damn thing any of you can do to stop me.

[Anonymous No.6007089]

>>6006959
Olive oil was used as soap, you used it every day to bathe with, everyone did.

[Anonymous No.6007161]

>>6007089
Prisoners use soap as lubrication for forced penetration in the showers. Why do you think this concept of lubrication would have been alien to an advanced civilization as the Ancient Greeks? With their advances in architecture, art, maths, etc., they were limited as to the use of olive oil.

[Anonymous No.6007177]

>>6006959
they weren't all degenerates like you.

[Anonymous No.6007188]

>>6007161
wait, how can they when they drop the soap to make the other person bend to take it, you cannot drop the soap and use it as a lubrication at the same time, it's physically situated in a different place

[Anonymous No.6007194]

>>6006915
i suggest you to read their literature

[Anonymous No.6007201]

Based Cynicism

Cause it's a dog's life.

[Anonymous No.6009590]

>>6007201
Fright

[Anonymous No.6009616]

>>5998923
>adhering to a greek philosophy
>not being superior post Hegelian and adhering to them all under your own interpretation
if you're gonna be like that you might as well be analytic, the point of continental phil is the constant construction on top of previous works.

[Anonymous No.6009623]

Stoicism. Possibly with some Pythagorean/Platonic metaphysical elements thrown in if I'm allowed to borrow.

[Anonymous No.6009819]

>>6009616
>>not being superior post Hegelian and adhering to them all under your own interpretation
That's an elaborate way to confess you're a filthy postmodernist.

[Anonymous No.6009833]

Sophism. Pretty much the Lacan and the Zizek of the Greeks.

[Anonymous No.6009841]

>>6009833
Also the Stirners of the Greeks, really.

[Anonymous No.6009844]

>>6009819
there are some good decades between the first student of Hegel doing something worthwhile and french post-modernism. everything by heidegger, for example, but I like post-modernism since I tried reading the authors and found more interesting ideas than what you'd see in wiki or in threads where no one hasread them.