I want to annotate but it's pretty daunting especially when everything you put to page is permanent. What are some systems or guidelines you guys use?

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Anonymous Wed Jan 14 02:13:39 2015 No.5996393 [Reply] [Original]

I want to annotate but it's pretty daunting especially when everything you put to page is permanent. What are some systems or guidelines you guys use?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 02:17:41 2015 No.5996408 HERESY DONT DO IT

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 02:18:45 2015 No.5996413 What book merits that much annotating? Is that seriously Robert Mitchum's biography?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 02:19:16 2015 No.5996414 Not being a drama queen faggot works quite well. Give it a shot :)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 02:19:29 2015 No.5996415 >vandalising a book >not memorising everything

Anonymous Wed Jan 14 02:19:35 2015 No.5996416

>>5996393
I stay pretty limited. Mostly just marking sections that I think are especially relevant, either through underlining specific words, through marking out specific passages, or through asterisks or exclamation marks at specific points.

TBH tho I'd almost always rather just take strong notes rather than annotate.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 02:22:14 2015 No.5996429 just use a notepad

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 02:29:39 2015 No.5996454 >>5996393 pencils. ink is way sexier, but i have the same reservations about it too so i have to use pencil

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 02:31:08 2015 No.5996462 >>5996393 I have a lot of books I annotated in high school. I can't read them now because there are so many cringe worthy comments in the margin.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 06:12:00 2015 No.5996978 >>5996393 That's not healthy, bro. I'm surprised DFW took that long to kill himself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 06:18:33 2015 No.5996995 Limit it to smart epigrams. Shouldn't be too hard if you're smart and a good writer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 06:20:21 2015 No.5996998 >>5996416 this plus a short sentence/word if I feel like what it made me think is not very obvious, for future reference.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 06:45:22 2015 No.5997055 >>5996393 Why not just keep a note book with references to the info?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 06:48:20 2015 No.5997059 I never understood why someone would willingly ruin their books by drawing in them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 06:54:44 2015 No.5997077 >>5997059 because they don't share your feeling that annotations ruin books?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 06:55:50 2015 No.5997078 use a pencil

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 07:06:54 2015 No.5997104 I just jerk off on my favorite passages. Can't forget a passage you jizz on. Then you're free to return it to the shelf.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 08:13:51 2015 No.5997270 I highlight all the time

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 08:15:19 2015 No.5997275 >>5996393 What fucking purpose does such highlighting even serve? What are you getting by highlithing every single paragraph even on something like Finnegans Wake

Anonymous Wed Jan 14 09:06:33 2015 No.5997404

>>5997059
>I never understood why someone would willingly ruin their books by drawing in them.
Some people care more about the intrinsic value of the words on the page than the aesthetic value of the book itself

Even if you don't understand such behaviour, there's no need to condemn it just because you treat books like physical property rather than something more

Anonymous Wed Jan 14 09:14:41 2015 No.5997419

Just write in them, it's only a book. The data is somewhere floating around as a digital copy and there is a properly archived hardcopy somewhere. Your book is inherently worthless, get your thoughts and feelings into it. Make it yours! Use a different pen when you re-read it for a sense of time.

I like to write journal entries and fold them into my books. It's personal!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 09:21:30 2015 No.5997436 I never feel like i need to highlight stuff, i probably miss some stuff by not doing it but meh, i dont know how to start.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 09:21:40 2015 No.5997438 >annotating a biography of robert mitchum why the fuck would you do that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 09:24:04 2015 No.5997452 >>5997419 This sounds like something a middle aged woman would say.

Anonymous Wed Jan 14 09:24:39 2015 No.5997456

My annotations are tiny things, mostly just to force myself to read carefully. I'll write "Hands again" if hands seem to be a recurring symbol, "Non-mens sana" if the text seems to link physical and mental illness, "and" if a text consistently uses "and" where one expects "but". And at the end of chapters, where there's usually a bit of room, I sum up my feelings re it, whether or not it was a "good chapter", etc.

It's just a matter of realizing that the book itself isn't important (unless rare or otherwise very valuable), and working out a system where you can cram lots of meaning into little space. If you're extremely worried about fucking up, you could use a pencil, though that may become illegible after a while.

Anonymous Wed Jan 14 09:30:48 2015 No.5997472

>>5996393
Just do it. Sometimes you're gonna write way more than its needed, sometimes way less, eventually, you get the hang of it. What I always try to do is paraphrase some key points, being able to do this is a signal of understanding.

I don't annotate in the books themselves, though. I do it on a notebook.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 09:31:23 2015 No.5997475 >>5997452 Well fuck, I'll go grab my leggings. Meet me in the kitchen. I treat my walls the same as my books. Sharpies and pushpins though.

Anonymous Wed Jan 14 09:33:42 2015 No.5997480

OP's pic is the kind of annotation that's only valuable if you're writing a paper and need to keep track of references and points. Otherwise it's worthless. Minimal annotation is okay. When it comes to Robert Mitchum biographies, you don't need to annotate anything.

Anonymous Wed Jan 14 11:14:28 2015 No.5997825

I take a piece of paper from whatever I have at hand, write down page number and concise idea or first 3 words of quote, then leave it there.
By the end the book will have pieces of paper like tabs, I'll store the book with them and whenever I'm at home and want to find something I just check the tabs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 11:18:40 2015 No.5997845 >>5996393 i just use a piece of paper to write notes... then use it as a bookmark

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 11:20:42 2015 No.5997857 >>5996393 Use a pencil.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 11:48:36 2015 No.5997967 >>5996995 What do you mean?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 11:51:18 2015 No.5997982 >>5996393 What possible meaning could those arrows have?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 11:54:34 2015 No.5997996 >>5997982 Reminds me of my schizoid spell and jotting out a map of iggy azalea's 'fancy' in multiple dimensions

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 12:44:42 2015 No.5998226 >yfw watching people in your class highlight entire sections of the textbook line by line I don't understand how that's helpful. For some reason it's always girls.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 12:58:48 2015 No.5998299 >>5996393 I jot down the meanings of words I'm unsure of, and thoughts about certain parts. I really like the latter, but rarely feel inspired to write them.

Anonymous Wed Jan 14 15:07:51 2015 No.5998952

>>5998226
girls think that highlighters are some kind of magic mind device which uploads the highlighted text into your brain what they don't know however is that you have to actively work to commit something into your memory (unless you have photographic memory), not just wave your magic stick.

weird people

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 15:12:28 2015 No.5998982 >>5996415 I wholeheartedly agree with this. >>5996429 This is a decent alternative as well, if you're not an übermensch with photographic memory.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 15:14:13 2015 No.5998994 >>5997996 >schizoid spell >jotting out a map of iggy azalea's 'fancy' in multiple dimensions You sound like a cool dude

Anonymous Wed Jan 14 15:15:30 2015 No.5998998
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>>5998952
>TFW you order a used book and it arrives with highlighter everywhere.
>Paragraphs are circled with highlighter.
>You realize a woman has owned this book before you.

Anonymous Wed Jan 14 15:18:56 2015 No.5999017
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ILL TAKE NOTE METHODS THAT DONT FUCK UP YOUR BOOK FOR 500 ALEX

>This peeling and adhesive note was developed in 1968 by the fine engineers and scientists within the 3M laboratories and is renowned for it's signature yellow color.

WHAT ARE POST-ITS?

Anonymous Wed Jan 14 15:19:41 2015 No.5999021
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Just make your books lightly with pencil.

You're not going to remember a fair amount of the material later on (this is especially true if it's a very convoluted text) and this will help you come back to the book later and find salient passages more easily.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 15:21:02 2015 No.5999031 >>5999017 Yes, but use those (or those book mark thingies a few posts up) on older books and watch the words get peeled off when you remove the post-it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 15:25:45 2015 No.5999050 Just use ebooks you fucking plebs, all the editing you want, and saved copy of the original

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 15:27:12 2015 No.5999059 >>5999031 Why not just stick it on the margins of the page? Write your notes there, like Line 15: so and so. Using multiples post-its on a single page is a lot fucking better than peeling off words.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 15:36:19 2015 No.5999104 >>5999050 ebooks aren't a thing stop trying to make ebooks a thing

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 16:31:21 2015 No.5999381 >>5998952 This seems really true the more I think about it. Am I a soggy knee?

Anonymous Wed Jan 14 17:05:03 2015 No.5999565

>>5999381
You might be soggy as fuck, but I think it's not entirely correct. Girls don't quite think that highlighters "upload the information" into their brains, but they do think that "more work"="better learning". So, bringing it to it's logical conclusion, a stereotypical "girl" would transcribe an entire book, and just assume that she necessarily knows and understands the content because she did so.

Anonymous Wed Jan 14 17:25:35 2015 No.5999685

>>5999565
another anon
I think highlighting comes from old practices in learning and organizing. Although it makes sense if you don't actually need to learn it, only know about the information existing and where, then highlighting it is a good practice because it allows for faster finding.
For a school setting and many other areas where memory and understanding is key we already know that what works best is comprehensive reading and solving practical example problems repeatedly until properly learned... but it's still not a common thing for some reason.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 17:35:13 2015 No.5999723 >>5996393 í don't annotate anymore. whenever i reread something i've annotated i get fucking mad about there being bullshit scribbles all over my book. fuck annotations they're ugly as shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 15 01:38:51 2015 No.6002336 >>5999691 what the fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 15 01:40:01 2015 No.6002342 >>5996393 lol >implying you will read that same book enough for it to be a problem

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 15 01:46:40 2015 No.6002369 File: 11 KB, 300x225, -1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Use a light pencil to make a vertical line next to the interesting passages and circle the page number so you can find them quickly when skimming.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 15 01:47:59 2015 No.6002373 Look up Cornell notes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 15 15:59:33 2015 No.6005055 What's the point of annotating?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 15 17:19:14 2015 No.6005390 >>5999050 Enjoy your cancer and not owning any book you purchase and having to upgrade your e-reader due to planned obsolescence

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 15 17:34:41 2015 No.6005485 >>6005055 It's good for when you wanna find those interesting parts in the book again. Oh, and it helps you learn the material.

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