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ITT: Authors you cannot stand.

Someone loses all credibility with me if I hear them say that they enjoy reading Jane Austen or either of the Bronte sisters.

>> No.5918332

>>5918328
these two don't count

nobody can stand female authors

>> No.5918344

>>5918332
Steinbeck is another I cannot stand.

I find his books extremely boring and have yet to finish a single one of his novels.

>> No.5918347

>>5918344
if you don't like austen, brontes, steinbeck you probably don't really like books very much
try sticking with tom clancy or something

>> No.5918354

>>5918347
> likes Female authors
> likes Steinbeck

And you're accusing someone else of not liking real books? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

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>>5918347
> enjoys Austen and the Brontes

>> No.5918361

>>5918328
Whenever I hear the name August Derleth I am filled with rage at what he did to Lovecraft's mythos, then I feel guilty because without him Lovecraft might have been forgotten today.

Jane Austen is among my top ten favorite authors

>> No.5918365

Easton Ellis.

I read American Psycho and it was alright. Got about halfway through Glamorama and had to stop. Tried some of his other works and realized that it wasn't just Glamorama that was shit.

>> No.5918368

>>5918361
Aw he was a cool guy. He sucked at writing but he appreciated it at least.

>> No.5918371

>>5918354
Great Tu Quoque, bruh

>> No.5918379

Stephen King, Charles Dickens, and Victor Hugo

>> No.5918380

I liked the fault of our stars film but John Green's vlog, wtf He acts all sxe phil peppy but he's 40, just weird

>> No.5918401

>>5918380
> liking tween age crap

Did you like Twilight too?

>> No.5918405

>>5918379
I shouldn't have scrolled over the spoiler

>> No.5918406

Charlotte > Jane or Emily, fucking plebs itt

>> No.5918419

>>5918406
> reading female authors at all

>> No.5918422

>>5918401
How's about you go fuck yourself

>> No.5918425

>>5918422
Man, we got an angsty teen here who thinks The Fault in our Stars and The Catcher in the Rye are the best books ever.

>> No.5918430

Vonnegut is complete trash

>> No.5918442

Pynchon, Joyce, DFW

>> No.5918527

Palahniuk. Fans are few and far between, but when they do come up, I avoid them like the plague.

>> No.5918532

This thread is now about female writers being shit and having never written anything worthwhile

>almost 2015
>not hating everything written by subhuman trash

same applies for blacks and poor people generally btw


DEBATE ME

>> No.5918533

>>5918430
Absolutely but he gets people into reading

>> No.5918535

>>5918532
/pol/ please fuck off

>> No.5918536

>>5918532
nah you're totally right man

>> No.5918543

>>5918536
>>5918535
Trust me on this, proud male brehs, I spend my time on 4chan, I know what is worthwhile in life.

>> No.5918552

All of them.

>> No.5918560

>>5918552
this, I only come to /lit/ to tell people who read YA that they're edgy

>> No.5918564

Going with the obvious Tao Lin.

>> No.5918593

>>5918425
You don't have many friends, I'm guessing.
It is possible to enjoy things for what they are, you know.
The Expendables is a dumb action movie, but I still enjoyed it.
If you don't go into everything expecting it to be 'Citizen Kane' you'll probably enjoy it.
Christ.

>> No.5918610

>>5918593
The Expendables was terrible even for dumb action fodder.

>> No.5918611

>>5918380
I can't understand your teenybopper slang.

>> No.5918615

Bukowski
>muh women

>> No.5918629

>>5918610
I second this opinion.

>> No.5918633

>>5918615
Semenal.

>> No.5918658

>Not liking "Wuthering Heights"

Kill yourselves, faggots.

>> No.5918669

>>5918354
>Tu Quoque
>>5918371
got em

>> No.5918673

>>5918658
I was written by a woman, though?!?

Are you being sarcastic?

>> No.5918675

>>5918673
>I was written by a woman
Deep.

>> No.5918680

>>5918615
yeah, Bukowski is a shitty edgelord of edgyteens

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>>5918442
I too enjoy the great meymers

but personally I'd say William Burroughs and Joseph Conrad

>> No.5918682

>>5918328
Why? Those are legitimately good authors. What's wrong with them?

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>>5918332
>>5918354
>>5918419
>>5918532
>>5918543
>>5918673
>Am I offending anyone yet?
/pol/ please

>> No.5918687

>>5918328
camus. i can take someone that loves salinger, but when someone loves camus i instantly start thinking they are probably the type that thinks they have it all right in the world, like they understand everything on another level so that everyone else is a dumbass compared to them. camus was a fraud, stop following this shitty trend.

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>>5918687
>camus
>fraud
pick one

>> No.5918694

Flannery O'Conner is one of the best American authors of all times. Here's a list of male authors that have a higher stock than her but aren't as good:

Updike
DFW
Steinbeck
Fitzgerald
Vonnegut
Hemingway
You guys get the drift.


And while we're at it, she's marginally better than Munro.
In any case, it really bothers me when men think women can't write.

I'm a catholic girl from Atlanta so I might be a little biased.

>> No.5918698

>>5918675
>dat Freudian slip in trying to denigrate the contribution of women to mankind
>mfw I disavow and repress being brought into the world by an unconditional love from my mother
>mfw realizing that women can be wonderful is so traumatizing to the way I currently perceive (and derive a surplus of jouissance from) the world and interpersonal relationships that it remains unconscious until I reveal my latent and fundamental desire to love and be loved by a woman when posting on a motif-weaving Somalian bread
>mfw I traversed the fundamental phantasy
>mfw space has opened up for symbolic and and hence subjective reconstitution

THANK YOU 4CHAN I OWE YOU EVERYTHING

>> No.5918701

>>5918687
I respect Camus as an author (a tad 2deep4u, though) but his philosophy is so, "Well, duh." The Myth of Sisyphus is the most drawn-out snoozefest ever, the last paragraph could have been the entire essay but instead he spends a hundred pages nooding around Kafka and shit like it means anything.

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>>5918694
>Flannery O'Conner
>Souther Gothic novels
pig disgusting

>> No.5918706

>>5918698
>jouissance
You sound 'educated'.

>> No.5918709

>>5918706
I try to.

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5918716

Okay, there's been a fair bit of misogyny in this thread. Don't get me wrong I'm all for that. However, this does make me realize I've actually read little to nothing from female authors.

Who are actual good female authors to start with? Are there any?

>> No.5918720

>>5918716
The Odyssey, according to some.

>> No.5918723

>>5918716
I've enjoyed reading Woolf and O'Connor immensely. I'm not sure I'm allowed to say that on here, though.

I'm sorry /r9k/

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>>5918716
Check the lists, anon.

>> No.5918745

>>5918727
list isn't in alphabetical order wtf

>> No.5918747

>>5918745
It's in chronological order. Couldn't you tell?

>> No.5918750

>>5918694
O'Connor
You silly goon

>> No.5918754

>>5918750
flannery oconner is a chick? lol i thought she was one of those dudes with a chick name like tracy marrow

>> No.5918756

>>5918723
everyone likes woolf

>> No.5918757

>>5918756
No, she's a hack according to this board.

>> No.5918773

>>5918754
Yeah, haha. I was saying that her name has an O, not an E.

>> No.5918781

I don't care how shit the book is, if it's not Moby Dick it's better than Moby Dick

>> No.5918797

Dostoevsky, Oscar Wilde

>> No.5918801

Tom Wolfe

>> No.5918806

Anything read in highschool, or by women, or by blacks, or by the generally uneducated people

>> No.5918816

Nathaniel Hawthorne. I absolutely hated The Scarlett Letter.

>> No.5918833

>>5918422
>being that mad

>> No.5918852

>>5918716
Jane Austen
Tove Jansson
Selma Lagerlöf
The Bronte sisters
Mary Shelley
Margaret Atwood

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>>5918852
> Tove Jansson

good lord. what is wrong with you? are you some kind of barbarian?

>> No.5918872

>>5918865
No no, you misunderstand, that was my answer to anon's request for good female authors.

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>>5918872
>Margaret Atwood
>good

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>>5918872
well. alright then

>> No.5918912

People who dislike Austen are the biggest plebs on the face of the planet who deserve to be exterminated.

>> No.5918940

>>5918593
you seem to be new here, friend

>> No.5918946

>>5918716
Shirley Jackson is decent.

Just finished her book The Haunting of Hill House last night. Not bad.

>> No.5918952

>>5918912
0/10 troll

>> No.5918955

>>5918946
genre pleb pls go

>> No.5919393

>>5918328
anybody with any feminist sympathy loses any credit for me

>> No.5919482

>>5918727
literally who?

>> No.5919525

Nietzsche
Nicholas Gomez Davila

>> No.5919538

>>5918332
>>5918354
>>5918358
>>5918419
>>5918532
>>5918532
>>5918952

Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf, Virginia Woolf, Virginia Woolf?

Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf?

>> No.5919710

>>5918328

I never take issue with authors, I take issue with how and why people like or dislike them.

For instance, right now you're looking like a massive faggot.

>> No.5919830

what an awful thread

i should take a break

>> No.5919831

>>5918328
there are 3 Bronte sisters (I know most people only read C and E, just saying)
those three are really such different authors
not liking Wuthering Heights I guess I can get, but what Austen or Charlotte Brontes have you read?

>> No.5919838

how can you even write a novel when you're vagina's bleeding constantly and shit, something smells fishy in here

>> No.5919847

I don't really ever hear him brought up as being read outside of high school
but I h8ted Nathaniel Hawthorne (specifically, The Scarlet Letter, I think I liked some of his short stories a little more) and couldn't believe we had to read someone so shitty.

>> No.5919876

>>5918912
agreed
esp people who love to say how much they hate Austen bc they think it's slightly more subtle than saying "You know what, I think women can't write."

>> No.5919877

>>5919831
>not liking Wuthering Heights I guess I can get
I guess you're a pleb

>> No.5919900

>>5918328
Dostojevsky.

I've read less manipulative journalism. In UK sunday papers.

>> No.5919902

>>5919877
noo I love it, just saying it's not as polished as Vilette or Austen

most of these authors have good works that I've read/liked and I'm a DFW fanboi, but when you see a dude listing their favs as the Beats, Bukowski, DFW, Camus and they're older than 20 it's a sign you have a know nothing shitboy on yr hands

>> No.5919967

>>5918716
I really enjoyed the one book Arhundati Roy has written this far, but never seen it mentioned around here

>> No.5919990

>>5919967
I was going to start a thread after reading GoST
bc there have been three pretty popular books where South Asian twins are separated and I wasn't sure if that was a coincidence or not (God of Small Things, White Teeth, The Lowlands)
kind of think Smith was cribbing off of GoST, or is there an older tradition of this as a plot device?

>> No.5920306

>>5918532
Woolf is good

>> No.5920319

George R R Martin

>> No.5921978

>>5919990
I hadn't thought about it in relation to White Teeth, but it's an interesting point. However, My gut reaction is that it is just a coincidence in cultures with strong family ties and social structures, meeting a more diversified and modern world.

Haven't read the Lowland, but will check out

>> No.5921986

>>5919900
Nabokov pls

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>>5918716
susanna clarke

>> No.5921998

DFW

When someone tells me that Infinite Jest was "so deep" and gargles his balls I just want to slap them in the fucking face. He's a hack.

>> No.5922001

Any female author.

Only acceptable one is Shelly. Frankenstein was written by a man anyway.

>> No.5922009

>>5920319
pleb
I have the exact same reaction towards people who can't stand Martin.

>> No.5922012

>>5920306

she is a very untypical female writer, she is good because she wrote like a man

>> No.5922014

>>5918328
people who don't like austen are turboplebs

>> No.5922024

>>5922012
pardon? she was criticized for being too 'feminine', what kind of rewrite of history is this, or is this b8?

>> No.5922031

I really don't think Charles Dickens is that good.

>> No.5922033

>>5922024
it doesn't matter what her contemporaries criticized her for

>> No.5922039

>>5922033
She's the worst example of 'masculine' writing I've ever heard. Isn't that 'compliment' usually saved for Joan Didion or Flannery O, not that it applies to either of them. Is your masculinity so fragile that you can't say a bitch writes well without saying it's because she wrote like a man?

>> No.5922042

Writers that try to insert Christian apologetics into their works

>> No.5922057

>>5918698
>reading Lacan

>> No.5922067

you dont like girls anon?

>> No.5922072

>>5922033
WHAT MATTERS IS OUR PLAN

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>>5918698

>> No.5922081

>>5922039
it's rather your placing a lesbian as a pinnacle of femininity is funny

>> No.5922086

>>5918781
This might actually be the worst opinion I've ever seen on /lit/

>> No.5922125

>>5918615
>>5918680
This.
Fucking talentless rat

>> No.5922133

>>5918425
He rapes his sister.

>> No.5922136

>>5918716
Duras

>> No.5922144

>>5918328
Baudelaire.

>> No.5922179

>>5922125
Why don't you like Bukowski?

>>5919525
Why don't you like Nietzsche?

>>5918681
Why don't you like Burroughs?

>> No.5922184

>>5922144
Bad tastes general?

>> No.5922185

Kate Chopin

>> No.5922190

>>5922184
frenchman detected :3

>> No.5922210

>>5922184
I don't really like edgy authors who are worship for no specific reasons.
Furthermore, he was largely inferior to some of his contemporaries

>>5922190
I am too, but apparently you can't touch Baudelaire
I never understood why he was idolized this much

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5922269

Guys, here is the actual first sentence of Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice, I swear to god I'm not making it up:

>It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife.

LOL

>> No.5922287

>>5922269

if you set loose an actual crocodile she would probably slowly crawl to a warm spot and lie there for the rest of the party, it's not a panther or something to jump to and fro, crocodiles are full of self-respect

>> No.5922305

>>5922287
if some inbred drunken Ivan rapes you anally ill praise that man

>> No.5922312

Any American

>> No.5922313

Wuthering heights is great you pleb

>> No.5922315

>>5922269
>It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single anon in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a gf.

>> No.5922319

>>5922269
that's like a perfect sentence, basically

you'd have to be tone deaf to not like it

austen is a god tier stylist, one of the best in english

>> No.5922323

>>5922312
epic

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>>5922319
>One of the best in English

>> No.5922328

>>5922325
there's a reason other incredible stylists, like henry james and nabokov, knew she was hot shit

>> No.5922330

>:^) Epik

>> No.5922334

>>5922330
FUCKING EPICCCCCC MAN XXXXDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.5922338

Submit

>> No.5922342

>>5922325
there's a reason other incredible stylists, like henry james and nabokov, knew she was hot shit

>> No.5922350

>>5922342
Honestly she might have been but if I was going to read something boring I barely care about for the prose I would crack the other McElroy book I have. The post your responding to is the only thing I've posted ITT but I still am not a fan of Austen at all. I just can't care.

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>>5922269
>It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife.

>> No.5922763

>>5922210
>I don't really like edgy authors who are worship for no specific reasons.
>who are worship for no specific reasons.
>a guy who wrote a book of poems and his acclaimed for the poems that are in this book
>worship for no specific reason
>worship

Something tells me you shouldn't be answering to those threads.

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>>5922312

>> No.5922794

>>5922269
prose is good, content is whimsical with a detached irony that sets the stage

what's not to like?

>> No.5922803

Buk (just ham on the rye and get over it)
Camus
Bradbury
Hesse (to be fair it takes a while to get tired of him) but when it comes it comes.

>> No.5922822

>>5918694
>catholic girl
hey c-can we maybe get coffee after church sometime?

>> No.5922831

jane austen was probably smarter than anyone on this board right now.

everyday i live in pain knowing that i will never have a chance to go on a date with her and hear her speak funny things.

>> No.5923039

>>5922012
Dude. Agatha Christie? C'mon, don't be sexist. S'not cool.

Also Tim Winton is a turboweeb - his books are better served as kindling.

>> No.5923497

>>5922831
I think a lot of anons itt/the board have non sense of humor so they don't get Austen.
>>5922012
the most insane dumb post

>> No.5923568

>>5922269
>he doesn't understand irony

>> No.5923645

>>5918532
>Women
Flannery O'Connor, Virginia Woolf
>Blacks
Ralph Ellison, Toni Morrison
>Poor people
Did you mean "most authors?"

>> No.5923654

>>5918532
if you don't like jane austen or emily dickinson you are just a pleb

>> No.5923662

>>5918716
Carson McCullers

>> No.5923677

>>5922185
Gonna have to disagree with you there.

>> No.5923682

>>5922822
I'm on 4chan. Think about it, would you really go on a date with a girl from 4chan?

>> No.5923685

>>5918716
virginia woolf

>> No.5923691

>>5923682

y-yes

>> No.5923694

>>5923682

>catholic weeb landwhale

not even once

>> No.5923726

>>5918757
According to some vocal retards who haven't actually read her, you mean

>> No.5923727

>>5918615
>muh alcoholism
>>5918658
Healthcliff as a character telegraphed every future goddamn arc within the first 50 pages. That's no fault of the writer, these themes have been repeated, but along with that superficially tedious prose, fuck that book.

>> No.5923961

>>5918328
Someone loses all credibility with me for the duration of the thread when they type out posts like these.

>> No.5924196

isn't Ursula K. le Guin a good female author? I haven't read her, but I have the word for world is forest and I've been meaning to read it.

>> No.5924240

I've never read a book that I've enjoyed

>> No.5924297

>>5923654
Shit, what if I like Jane Austen but hate Emily Dickinson? Can't I legitimately hate shit like

A bird came down the walk
He did not know I saw
He bit an angle-worm in halves
And ate the fellow, raw?

And then he drank a dew
From a convenient grass
And then hopped sidewise, to the wall
To let a [something] pass.

Yes, I memorized that one 20 years ago and still remember most of it--that's how much I hate Dickinson.

>> No.5924303

>>5924297
Oh, I remember:

To let a beetle pass.

>> No.5924366

>>5924196
Yes, she's really good. I haven't read that book though.

>> No.5924391

>>5924297
it was written by a shy female housewife therefore it has a deep hidden meaning which you cannot see and should be studied and appreciated as a sign of women fighting against male oppression

>> No.5924405

>>5924391
Oh, STFU. Calling Dickinson a housewife...I hate you even more than I hate her.

>> No.5924406

>>5918797
why dostojewsky?

>> No.5924412

>>5924405
she was one

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>>5924405
>a wife
>that never left her house
What else would you call her you silly faggot

>> No.5924427

>>5922179
He's taken seriously as a philosopher when everything he wrote was an alcoholic-tier barstool aphorism and his opinion, and then he tried to use that style as some sort of self-referential justification for it.

>> No.5924428

>>5924412
>>5924422
She was a spinster, you morons.

>> No.5924437

>>5924428
>>5924412
>>5924422
If there had been a /lit/ in those days, she would have been Butterfly.

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>>5918532

>> No.5924460

>>5924427
word
also, nothing more pathetic than a grown man who's a fan boy, esp. one who tries to play his own drinking problems and failure with women (and writing/whatever art form they're failing at) as something romantic

>> No.5924463

>>5924428
how do you call her then, housespinster?

>> No.5924465

>>5918328
Ayn Rand, but I think that goes without saying

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>>5924428
that's what history wants you to think

read a book and stop being ignorant

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>>5924463
Spinkikomori.

>> No.5924763

>>5918347
>>5922014
>>5922269
>>5922319
>>5922831
>>5923654
I’ve suffered through half of both Pride and Prejudice and Persuasion. Reading Jane Austen is like reading the diary of an uncreative, unwed woman attempting to vicariously live a life of marriage and (this has to be, thanks to Austen, one of the most disgusting words in the English dictionary) “prudence”, as it pertains to social and moral sensibility, through lifeless characters that read like personifications of powdered doilies. Mark Twain said this of Jane Austen, and I couldn’t agree more:

>"I haven't any right to criticize books, and I don't do it except when I hate them. I often want to criticize Jane Austen, but her books madden me so that I can't conceal my frenzy from the reader; and therefore I have to stop every time I begin. Everytime I read 'Pride and Prejudice' I want to dig her up and beat her over the skull with her own shin-bone.”

>>5918694
I suppose that being a southern, Catholic female gives you some sense of solidarity with O’Conner, but I am legitimately baffled by anyone who would venture to say that O’Conner is one of the greatest American authors. I’ve read Wise Blood and several of her short stories. There was nothing enjoyable about them. Her satire revolves around heavy-handedly criticizing caricatures of anyone who lies outside of the Christian fold by creating gross, stupid, hyperbolic characters whose emotions are easy to manipulate and basically all of the high-modernists (especially Joyce) who are interested in the novel for its own sake. All of the authors you listed are better stylists than O’Conner.

>> No.5925795

>>5924297
read the heart asks pleasure first

>> No.5925836

people who hate jane austen just aren't interested in reading about 19th century english domestic affairs. that's fine, but recognize your reasoning is basically the same as people who hate lolita because it's about a pedophile, who hate madame bovary because "there are no relatable characters". you hate jane austen because you can't relate to the topics she wrote about. it has nothing to do with her aesthetic value. it has nothing to do with her incredibly unique and private style that prefigures the most important innovations in the novel 50 years before they became standard, nothing to do with her character creation skills which are wonderful, nothing to do with her wonderful sense of humor, nothing to do with her marvelous balancing of plot elements into a well woven fabric.

there's a reason why austen was used by people like henry james, edmund wilson, and others as a litmus test for determining people who actually read for the aesthetic experience from people who don't know much at all. there's a reason she was thought as possibly the most "high art" of the english novelists. she wrote masterpieces, machined them over, yet made them seem effortless. she was a genius. one of the greatest english novelists

>> No.5925845

>>5925836
tldr:
she is a woman so she is praised by academia

>> No.5925861

>>5925845
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reception_history_of_Jane_Austen

jane austen survives because the most upper class, patrician white men possible saved her work from the whips and scorns of time by praising it as high art

>> No.5925870

>>5925861
patrician white kinghts

>> No.5925875

>>5925870
epik

>> No.5925938

>>5925795
God. Fuck you.

>> No.5925941

>>5925938
what a strange reaction

>> No.5925992

>>5925875
I would have like to have gotten a piece of Austen too.

>> No.5926035

>>5918716
If you're interested in mental health, Susanna Kaysen's "Girl, Interrupted", is the female equivalent of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest".

Other than that, there's The Heart is a Lonely Hunter, The Talented Mr. Ripley, Atlas Shrugged, The Haunting of Hill House, To Kill a Mockingbird, Interview with the Vampire, and The Secret Life of Bees. I'm sure you can find something.

>> No.5926077

>>5926035
>good female authors
>ayn rand
no

>> No.5926094

Mark Twain

>> No.5926099

>>5918328
Jane Austen and the Bronte sisters sounds like a band name

>> No.5926102

>>5926094
>female

>> No.5926111

>>5926102

>thinks this is a female authors thread

>> No.5926322

>>5918532
Mary
Shelley
SAPPHO
you lose
/thread

>> No.5926515

the defending of Jane Austen itt is warming my heart
people who go out of their way to loudly declare they hate Austen just comes off as a tool

>> No.5926526

>>5918328
Hitler

>> No.5926541

/lit/ has turned into the worst board

why cant you people just accept people have different taste?

if you dont like it, who cares?

you arent superior for preferring one piece of entertainment over another

smh

>> No.5926545

>>5924763
You sound like you have no sense of humor or irony and just don't pick up on a lot of what Austen and O'Conner are writing about. Austen is some of the least 'dusty' of all 19th century lit. Also, O'Connor was writing as an outsider bc she was Roman Catholic in the South, not just 'Christian'.
Some of those writers are on the same level as Flannery, but they're doing different things. No one is better than ya girl at what she does.

>> No.5926546

>>5922269
ITS FUCKING SATIRE YOU STUPID CUNT

AUSTEN IS ONE OF THE MASTER SATIRISTS

ITT

PEOPLE WHO HAVENT READ OR UNDERSTOOD THE BOOKS CRITICIZING

IM LAFFIN SO HARD

/pol/ NEEDS TO FUCK OFF

>> No.5926571

I've noticed that people who really dislike Austen tend to have really bad senses of humor. Which makes it especially weird that Twain hated Austen since he's hilarious. Anyway if you don't laugh out loud at Mr. Bennett you can fuck right off in my book

I lose respect for people if they like Dan Brown, Chuck Palahniuk, or if they make a big deal out of liking Bukowski.

>> No.5926754

>>5922269

Kek. I read the first page and deleted it off my phone long ago. Glad to see someone else thinking that shit is trash.

>> No.5926761

>>5926546

>I was only pretending to write dogshit. :^D

Pretending to be retarded is still retarded. Pretending to be a bad writer is still being a bad writer.

>> No.5926762

I am forever angry at Patrick Tilley for the 7 book long cocktease that is The Amtrak Wars

>> No.5926812

>>5922287
Go back to your swamp crocodile, we don't like your kind around here.

>> No.5926823

i dont people who read seriously because 99/100 of them try too hard

>> No.5926899

>>5926761
yup there are people this stupid on /lit/ right now.

OK. Time for me to leave. You have not read jack shit. You lack even a basic understanding of writing or reading. That much is clear. Ok. All the intelligent people have lone gone, that much clear. Bye faggot. You're welcome to your /pol/ 2.0

>> No.5926923

i don't like emily dickinson. rather loathe really. this is not part of some sexist constellation of ideas, i just find that shit awful.

>> No.5926940

Wuthering Heights is okay, but it's a huge red flag for me when a girl lists it as one of her favorite books. She might as well have said Twilight.

>> No.5926954

>>5926761
>being this stupid
>having this little reading comprehension
>>5926899
said it better

>> No.5926955

>>5926923
she's too difficult for you i guess

>> No.5926956

>>5926940
>it's good, but not when girls read it
Are you retarded?

>> No.5926959

>>5926955
nice dubs but she is literally like reading poetry for children.

>> No.5926960

>>5926923
I used to really not care for or get her, but in the last year or so I've come around and started to love her poetry. I think her rhythms are so strange that it either gets you or it doesn't.
(people saying she's a housewife????(doesn't even make sense to use that word for her time period, even if she was married) should harm themselves in some elaborate way though

>> No.5926964

>>5926899
>muh /pol/ buzzword
>muh irony

Stop trying to defend your shit-tier feminist puke-on-paper with your meaningless claims of irony, and just accept that you're a pleb who would lick the crusty cum off a man's sweaty balls to save the reputation of muh strong independent womun author.

Satire is the lowest form of art

>> No.5926970

>>5926964
Nigga have you even read anything by Jane Austen?
Your plebdom is showing with each word.

>> No.5926972

>>5926964
>being this stupid
>having this little reading comprehension
>having this little taste
>having this little sense of history
>being this pathetic
>having this little critical thinking skills


lol at it being about saving Austen's rep, her reputation has lasted and will last over whatever bullshit authors are your favs (please share! I know you won't)

>> No.5926975

>>5926970
>>5926972
tumblr, pls.

>not attacking post at all

>> No.5926977

>>5926975
Is tumblr still a meme?
And you must seriously live under some rock if you believe Austen is only read and apprechiated by by feminist chicks, which don't exactly strike me as the kind of people to invest themselves in 19th century literature.

>> No.5926981

>>5926977
>tumblr still a meme
Is /pol/ still a meme?

>which don't exactly strike me as the kind of people to invest themselves in 19th century literature.
I dunno there's been a lot of them here lately.

>> No.5926983

>>5926975
I started a little list of things you are lacking and should work on, thank me. Also, tell me who you think are worthy authors, but like I said, you won't because you can't think except in tired memes.

>> No.5926984

>>5926981
get it together, I thought the talking point was feminists=tumblr=are stupid and only read YA and fanfiction
/pol/ is still an infection

>> No.5926988

>>5926981
>is /pol/ still a meme
It's been only weeks since moot wrecked havoc on that board, causing an exodus which led to an influx of unwelcome immigrants. Also, do you deny being a regular visitor to that board? Because that's pretty hard to believe. The kind of person to write off Austen as feminist garbage just seems to naturally gravitate towards that cesspool.

>> No.5926990

>>5926959
her poetry's difficulty comes from the fact that it seems surface level at first. she seems to be writing normal rhymed and metered poetry but she subtly plays with rhythms and slant rhymes to create a style of writing that is almost completely unique as well as notoriously difficult

The Heart asks Pleasure - first -
And then - excuse from Pain -
And then - those little Anodynes
That deaden suffering -

And then - to go to sleep -
And then - if it should be
The will of its Inquisitor
The privilege to die -

consider how the first stanza moves at a jaunty regular rhythm, then consider how from the enjambment at the second line of stanza two onward the poem completely subverts that rhythm. the effect is one of the carpet being pulled out from under our feet. the line "The liberty to die" comes as such a shock because of how completely different rhythmically it is from the "That deaden suffering" of the previous stanza. it also feels to me a downward motion, fitting the motion of the sense of this poem, from the first line, which sounds like something written on a dinner plate in your great aunt's kitchen, to the last statement, in which essentially god is an inquisitor who the heart is serving as a pitiful slave

there's a lot more about this poem that's great too

>> No.5926993

>>5926964
I'm the guy you replied to. I am not even a fan of Austen. But it is obvious you have not read a god damned word of her works.

Please get the fuck off /lit/. Or, if you wish to stay on ./lit/, please read the works you intend to bash so next time you might at least sound mildly intelligent.

That is all. I'm sorry m00t killed your /pol/. I really am. But there is no reason for you to flood /lit/ with your asinine, illiterate plebery

>> No.5926995

>>5926993
what even happened to /pol/

>> No.5926996

>>5926995
Word filters which change jew to happy merchant, country flags and permanent IDs, [trigger warning] over each post.

>> No.5926997

>>5926996
lol did that actually change anything or is it just still the same

>> No.5926998

>>5923682

Yes, you're Catholic and a weeb and a girl, that's all I need.

>> No.5927001

>>5926997
Pretty much the same, but it prevents samefagging and unveiled australians as what everyone always knew they were, the kings of shitposting.
Pamper the happy merchants, love and tolerance now!

>> No.5927020

>>5926984
You would think so, but they seem to be evolving. Maybe it will lead to something productive or rational, who knows.

>>5926983
>>5926988
>>5926993
Keep licking.

>>5926995
m00t started recruiting SJW mods, cleared out the old ones. He wanted to change 4chan's rep of being the big bad evil place of the internet into a happy love place of equality. /pol/ was/is obviously one of the causes of that rep, and when /pol/ found out that he was a legit cluck, he decided to disable Captchas, add in a whole bunch of filters, add in [trigger warning] to the top of each post. He stickied a bunch of retarded posts and added background music too, and for the icing on the cake, he advertised it to the rest of 4chan causing immense spam and now the board's literally unusable.

In all seriousness, and to address some of the other posts, anyone who is remotely angered by /pol/, or wants to disrupt it in any way, are almost always buttmad tumblrinas. The people who voice the "gb2pol" meme or any variation of such, have evidently never been on there. The reputation of "gas the kikes, race war now" is the equivalent of /tv/'s "for you", /fit/'s "manlet", or /mu/'s "in the aeroplane over the sea". Harmless shitposting. It literally isn't disrupting any board or thread more than any other meme, the only thing it disrupts is the self-assurance of the whiny liberal population that sadly occupies this website. Barely anyone on /pol/ (read: anyone aside from the stormfags) is racist as the board's reputation makes them out to be.

>> No.5927032
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5927032

>>5927020
the face of butthurt, everybody, I didnt even read it all

>> No.5927034

>>5927032
Yeah. I'm steaming mad. Everyone point and laugh.

>> No.5927035

>>5927020
I've been on /pol/ for two years, so I know you're full of shit. Reasonable discussion is possible, but it's the exception, kikekikeniggerniggerjidfcuck is the rule. Also, it's hilarious to see that you have already subscribed to one of the countless theories why moot did that, unveiling your utter stupidity and illiteracy. I have serious doubts that you even read, ever, so why are you here?

>> No.5927040

>>5927035
You haven't been on /pol/ at all.

Next.

>> No.5927046

>>5927040
Yes I was. Every now and then, when this board is too slow or boring, I go back to /pol/ and scroll down the front page, just to remind myself why I left.
Still, talking to people who want to refute marxism with quantum physics, or attack the possibility of same-sex marriage with modal logic are fond memories of mine.

>> No.5927049

>>5927020
>still not saying what writers he thinks are good
>has read more words on /pol/ than ever in a book

>> No.5927051

>>5927020
how can you say /pol/ isn't actually a terrible place responsible for shitting up other boards when you literally just came into this thread and shit it up with your inane, uneducated opinions about one of the best english writers in history

>> No.5927053

>>5924406
Wooden prose that aims to educate me very straightforwardly. No subtlety. Reactionary. Practically journalism.

>> No.5927060

>>5918694
>I'm a catholic girl from Atlanta so I might be a little biased.
I'm a protestant male from Australia and I agree. O'Connor is incredible.

>> No.5927317

>>5926541
It was never any different.

>> No.5928060

>>5918328
Peter Singer
Immanuel Kant

I don't really dislike either author's opinions, but the way they write makes me want to vomit.

>> No.5928075
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5928075

Flannery O'Connor is actually the single best American author of all time.
Carson McCullers is up there.
Clarice Lispector is one of the greatest latin american writers of all time.

Anyone who dislikes female authors is just ignorant, really.

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5928088

>>5928075
I named my cat after O'Connor.

I usually call her Flann or even Flann-Flann.

>> No.5928109

Bukowski for perpetuating the "you're not a true writer unless you've tried to kill yourself four times" tortured artist shit.

>> No.5928225

>>5928109
i blame hemingway more

>> No.5928233

>>5928075
Lispector is actually average as fuck. So disappointing. O'Connor is good, but she's not better than Faulkner or Melville.

>> No.5928240

>>5928088
I named my cat Ruggles

>> No.5928249

>>5928225
at least he succeeded at killing himself

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5928254

>>5919538
I am, George, I am.

>> No.5928255

>>5928233
that's such an insane sentence, neither of those three are trying to do remotely the same thing at all

>> No.5928269

>>5926990
>her poetry's difficulty comes from the fact that it seems surface level at first

oh, stop this bullshit
you can go and analyze public lavatory wall poetry that way, you will find all those slant rhymes and enjambments there too
well, may be they were inspired by dickinson

>> No.5928277

>>5928255

He's challenging the claim that she's the best American author

>> No.5928288

>>5928269
are you actually implying that dickinson was unintentionally using slant rhymes and enjambments or what

i'm not sure what you're saying

>> No.5928289
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5928289

How anyone can appreciate this hack of an author is beyond me

>> No.5928302

>>5928277
oh okay, all three would be in my top 10 or 20 (at least probably, I haven't read Moby Dick)

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5928308

>>5928289
Bait or not, Joyce is a garbage salad author. He is to literature what anti-cinema is to film. dogshit

>> No.5928313

>>5928288

>her poetry's difficulty comes from the fact that it seems surface level at first
looks as something used to defend a terrible poet

compare to
>Critics such as Isobel Armstrong argue that the seeming simplicity of poetry such as Landon's is deceptive, and that women poets of the 19th century often employed a method of writing which allows for multiple, concurrent levels of meaning.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letitia_Elizabeth_Landon

>> No.5928314

>>5928308
are you only familiar with finnegans wake

try dubliners, there is nothing "salad" like about that book.

>> No.5928323

>>5928313
well in this case it's something used to defend a great poet. it's not like dickinson was on the surface writing sentimental garbage. the surface level impression of ease simply comes from the swift meters and her brevity. her poems zip by poor readers before they are processed, but they are incredibly dense.

>> No.5928331

Palahniuk, Bukowski, Bret Easton Ellis, people who dislike Jane Austen, Hemingway, people who dislike Nietzsche, Aleister Crowley, Kerouac, Thomas Mann, Thomas Bernhard, the list goes on...

>> No.5928335

>>5928314
salad till the sun sets, my friend

>> No.5928338

>>5928323
a great poet it's a poet who uses a poor meter, poor rhymes and run-ons here and there. b-but it's only on the surface!

yet again, there is a good reason why dickinson is mostly unknown outside of usa

>> No.5928342

>>5928338
>mostly unknown outside of usa

ever considered killing yourself, if not its for shame

>> No.5928350

>>5928338
>>5928342
for real, go be mad at your 10th grade english class somewhere else
>>5928331
good list

>> No.5928351

>>5928338
>dickinson is mostly unknown outside of usa

You don't know much, do you? I suggest, if you don't know what you're talking about, that you keep your thoughts to yourself.

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5928357

Nabokov, what an over rated twat

>> No.5928358

>>5928338
lol so basically you just deny the validity of:

1. substitutions
2. enjambment
3. slant rhyme

so basically what we have left is what? nursery rhymes?

>> No.5928365

Dan Bandana Wallus

>> No.5928366
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5928366

btw, pic related, it's what her poem about the beetle reminds me
that that incredible ambiguous rhyme at the end
if only that james k. elmor was a spinster whose poetry was discovered posthumously, he could be famous!

>> No.5928367

>>5928338
kitty, i can hold my lunch at any tripfag but you.

>> No.5928369

>>5928366
I unironically like that poem.

>> No.5928373

>>5928358
that was your defence of her. the poem looks simple at the surface but deeper it has a poor meter, poor rhymes and even run-ons, therefore she was great

it's funny

>> No.5928415

>>5928373
1. substitutions are not "poor meter"
2. slant rhymes are not "poor rhymes"
3. an enjambment is not a "run-on"

>> No.5928425

>>5928366
definitely comparable to a poem about being so miserable that you beg to even not experience an afterlife

>> No.5928436

>>5928369
me too

dickinson used to put her poems in tins of biscuits for her friends. i think that's lovely. i'd love one of her biscuit tins. her poems are very nice.

>> No.5928669

>>5928308
Wow, you're ignorant as fuck.

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5929915

>>5918727
>Their Eyes Were Watching God

>> No.5929951

>>5928357
sad no one took my nabokov b8

>> No.5929988

>mfw came onto this thread to shitpost about Jane Austen a day ago and this thread is still on the front page with nearly 300 replies