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You base yourself in approximation of size with your surroundings or most common baseline structures, IE elementary particles, now these are only determining you by your own ability to not equate yourself as less than them, do to gravitational flux caffudling the particle density, and as such simply phase the self that you normally percieve into your relation to your entire body, now knowing your entire body with the quadrillions the size of of a fermion/bosons in an atom between the layers (the best way to understand the ratio is like saying that the nucleus is a gumball in the middle of the football field while the first level of electrons are out in the upper stands, being a fleck of size in reference to said gumball) and simply rationally determine that nothing is your god, which should be easy for most of you

All that being said, as we know humans are incredibly irrational creatures

If it can be argued that what is determining the factor in question can be its god, then why are you athiest if it is litrally saying that not a thing is determining anything, which is to imply an idea which is to say that there is a 'god' and that our existance is consequence of something that it is trying to determine- if in fact it is even aware of what occurs at all

>perhaps an inside is what is trying to determine

tl;dr: Is there an 'inside' of reality anywhere? Or are all things just determining all other things and making the perception of all things gods of all other things

Well there's another I found of looking at it, basically, is that reality is a fractal, but not like triangles and swirls, but a concept fractal- where the velocity is maintained by the concurrence of new elements blending with the old; as to say that every new element of structure, events/scenarios are ever coming into existance by the sheer gravity of the environments inquiry to the background structure of gravity, or pure space or the blank enviroment of what a conventional fractal would look like

>Wadaya think!

>> No.5866558

>>5866547
What?

>> No.5866597

>>5866547

>writing like a post-structuralist

>> No.5866611

If the universe were a box, and the contents of said box were unable to observe the box or anything inside the box, and the box itself was unable to observe itself, and anything inside and outside of it - would the box still be there, suspended at the end if a string, waiting for a universe boundary line to cross paths with its own as it tries to traverse the multiverses, only for its journey to end with a start, a Big Bang. And the cycle repeats, oscillating like a sinuous wave, over and under, back and forth, always and forever, no living thing to observe the box for billions of years... Until -

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>You...

>> No.5866636

>hurr I have this wacky theory about universe
just kill yourself already

>> No.5866639

>>5866547
How fucking high are you because I'm out of my mind right now and I can understand this perfectly

>> No.5866642

>>5866547
well in hermetic philosophy things have exoteric meaning and esoteric meaning. the inner truth and the outer truth. and the myriads of meanings that interlock and interplay within those respective modalities. everything is fractal and everything is infinite because god is infinite, etc.

i skimmed through your post because my attention span has been destroyed by the internet but it sounds like what you're getting at is look for implicit meaning in the explicit and vice versa.

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>>5866611
I got a thought for you: A square: All the sides are infinite, the corners are unreachable to the point of the infinite sides being reduced to about a 3 point line, but simultaneously collapsing outwards into circles at the furthest corner, again that the lines maintain a continuum condition and their corner is, conditionally reached, as the point their collapsing from, to my oppinion a singularity, or a point where which (again from my point of view) time space is flattened out in an aspect of non-relativity of sorts (I beleive a singularity pushes things away{flattens space time}), but causes them to fold outwards and inwards at the same time to make the corner, or i, with a similar cuviture causing them to fold out drawn into a circle in in the first place
>pic
and cause these edges to fold out and then over on themselves causing the again 3 point line structure but only the outer segments have depth; basically a comparison of the 2nd dimension to the 4th dimension this is. Now they have folded in with the curviture of i and curved outwards with the same premise and folded over do to the depth of the center, ever heard of what happened to the dot that started the universe? There was a line projected behind it that causality dictated was facing every direction because, hey, whats direction to the void life anway, anyway, where the center of the line is or the middle point of the lines, are causing themselves to inflate relative to the source they're nearing (basically the center of whats left of the anylized square, also a potential singularity in there) and causing the square to even out into and mandala kind of thing

And if you think of the dots as quarks and bosons including the zero point energy and the way that the whole thing could add up to a basic black hole Black Hole
>

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>>5866639
Isnt it fucking great? I seriously advise adopting this as your metaphysical existance
>also
>Which can explain why time seems to go faster when you're having fun or learning dense material

>> No.5866715

>>5866710
>Which can explain why time seems to go faster when you're having fun or learning dense material>Which can explain why time seems to go faster when you're having fun or learning dense material>Which can explain why time seems to go faster when you're having fun or learning dense material>Which can explain why time seems to go faster when you're having fun or learning dense material>Which can explain why time seems to go faster when you're having fun or learning dense material
I knew it was you you motherfucker

>> No.5866737

>>5866693

I was with you up until 3/4 down the way of your second paragraph, way too tired tonight, I'll respond in the morning.

>> No.5866917

>>5866715
>>>5866693
>we're all peices of infinity

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>>5866611
>>>5866693

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>>5867386
>homophobia
>being this young
>the envy rage

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>>5866693
m8

>> No.5869325

>>5867910
Remember how they discovered that programmable matter that was 4 quarks at the LGH? Mass can be considered something of an infinite quality as it can be deduced to be present with/as the reasons for the big bang, and even possibly present during the big forplay, anyway this is a reference to that

>> No.5869704

>>5866639
I recomend the Illuminatus! Trilogy for you good sir

>> No.5869729

>>5869704
>http://www.amazon.ca/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=illuminatus+trilogy&tag=msncahydra-20&index=aps&hvadid=56783733&ref=pd_sl_95irdrlh6a_e

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>>5866710

>> No.5871441

>>5869704
I actually read that, first hundred pages were complete giberish until you read the book, it was fun though, definitly a book for experienced drug users and suprisingly far from actual illuminati bs

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Seriously, no ones even a little thought provoked by the OP?

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>>5866547
>tl;dr: Is there an 'inside' of reality anywhere?
No. You've touched on the ideas of relativism, and used psychedelic analogies, yet, you fail to realize how correct your assumptions are(within your explanation)
What "elementary particles" are you referring to?
Scientifically speaking, we don't measure things, we measure actions, so elementary particles are illusions created by the incredibly irrational creatures you described. (and potentially extend into infinity)
"Reality" goes on forever, inward and outward.

My view:
Perception Reality
0.999... 1

>my tl:dr: Any pattern you recognize can be expressed with any description, so long as you explain every part. Nothing new here, just some ego death, and dissolution of past beliefs about the nature of "reality."

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>>5872360
>Nothing new here, just some ego death, and dissolution of past beliefs about the nature of "reality."
But what if one doesn't believe in reality, only hindsight and that we are forever behind the curve of meeting our maker, or support system, and are constantly falling just short of what would be true consciousness, instead we're given a foray with the ability to consider the options of our ego death but even at the same time thats mearly just another pretence for compassion which can be found in any marry social setting, the point being we live in a 0.9999... density of chaos and 0.000...001 semblance of order, but with the pretense of infinity that 0.00..001 is the undefinable 1 of limit infinity, which argues the point of 1 structure of, I mean I dont really wanna say it but I'm gunna, god

>tl;dr: Is there an 'inside' of reality anywhere?
>No
>mfw no wormholes

>What "elementary particles" are you referring to?
Fermions and Bosons are the generalized term for the known smaller particles

>> No.5873822

>>5873398
>I mean I dont really wanna say it but I'm gunna, god
Gods a healthy thing to respect buddy, you made that arguement yourself

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>>5873822
But its not about god its about escaping god and reveling in and with the simplest things in life and doing that before anything, feeling the sand under your feet and in your hands and then taking it further and building a sand castle, or just digging into a bowl of jello with your hands and eating it, or having foreplay last all thought the sex: simple things enjoying complex things; god is as complex or simple as you want it to be, but its just more enjoyable without god, in the cracks of eternity.

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>>5873822
But its not about god its about escaping god and reveling in and with the simplest things in life and doing that before anything, feeling the sand under your feet and in your hands and then taking it further and building a sand castle, or just digging into a bowl of jello with your hands and eating it, or having foreplay last all thought the sex: simple things enjoying complex things; god is as complex or simple as you want it to be, but life's just more enjoyable without god, in the cracks of eternity.

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The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved.

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>>5874517
>escaping god
this... I think this is probably the strangest thing I've ever read in terms of mysticallity and religion... escape god! Like.. OP wtf did you do?

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>>5874898
Smoked pot every time I did acid, then my brain declared "henceforth all blazing seshes shall induce contorted views of reality with verbal contortionist exhibitions"

And my body was like "make it so"

And now I leave everybody I know with a sense of emptiness and I can't for the life of me make anybody laugh even though I tell some pretty palatable jokes
>pic related; pretty solid example of my life right now

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>>5874898
Smoked pot every time I did acid, then my brain declared "henceforth all blazing seshes shall induce contorted views of reality with verbal contortionist exhibitions"

And my body was like "make it so"

And now I leave everybody I know with a sense of emptiness and I can't for the life of me make anybody laugh even though I tell some pretty palatable jokes
>pic related with the movie its a pretty solid example of my life right now

>> No.5875875

>>5875216
>pretentious burnout embarrasses friends

>> No.5875891

I am hungover as fuck rn
Figured that fit here

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>>5875891
Can someone please tell me what the fuck I'm doing wrong, I need this

>> No.5875900

>>5875896
Right I've checked the main box that I forgot to do, and unchecked Auto, but I can still see this guy: someone help?

>> No.5875902

>>5875891
I drank some fake beer by accident last night and puked my guts out

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>>5866547

>> No.5876822

>>5875900
dont you need two exclamation marks at the beginning?

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>>5875896
>>5875900
>>5875902
>>5876822
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>>5875875
bound to happen just as soon as I start giving a fuck about what people say on the internet

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>>5866547
>I mean string theory really does have merit in the context of evolution, spacial and potentially organically, in regards to what can be understood basically as a concept fractal

>> No.5879809

>OP is Carmen Santiago