So whats the point of sitting in your room by your self and reading "deep shit" like existential philosophy and such when you can be out meeting people, having fun, getting new experiences and having sex?

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Anonymous Mon Dec 15 08:52:56 2014 No.5864156 [Reply] [Original]

So whats the point of sitting in your room by your self and reading "deep shit" like existential philosophy and such when you can be out meeting people, having fun, getting new experiences and having sex?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 08:53:53 2014 No.5864158 >>5864156 dank memes

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 08:55:31 2014 No.5864163 I am one guilty motherfucker in need of giving something back to the world, basically.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 08:56:59 2014 No.5864166 >>5864156 fucking primates and their obsession with copulating. Christ...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 08:58:32 2014 No.5864171 You wouldn't even have an existential crisis to begin with if you was busy living your fucking life >hurrr i am so depressed, life is so meaningless. Of course you feel like that when you just a boring cunt who never does anything worthwhile

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 08:59:10 2014 No.5864173 I've never had sex with a black chick. I want to, though. We don't have them here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:00:56 2014 No.5864174 >>5864171 Implying ''getting new experiences'' is worthwhile when you can read existential philosophy.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:01:03 2014 No.5864175

>meeting people
I'm terrible at that.

I'm awkward and make people (and myself) uncomfortable by my terrible efforts to hold conversation

>having fun
I'm quite fun with my books, thank you very much

>getting new experiences
But each new books IS a new experience

>and having sex?
Please, I can't even talk to girls without getting nervous, you think I'd be able to convince one to sleep with me?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:01:18 2014 No.5864177 >>5864173 Where?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:01:30 2014 No.5864178 I do both.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:01:51 2014 No.5864179 >>5864171 >if you was Nigger, please.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 09:02:23 2014 No.5864180 >>5864171 All dudes get existential crises in the end doing that shit anyway, did any of you at all get fucking 1984 wow

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 09:04:27 2014 No.5864184 >>5864177 Ireland. I have actually never even seen a sexy black girl in the flesh :(

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>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:08:06 2014 No.5864193 >>5864173 >tfw from Iceland >tfw only corpse-like women that blend into snow

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:08:16 2014 No.5864194 >>5864184 I live in the Bronx. They're fun.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:09:05 2014 No.5864195

I agree OP, I'm living my life and only had time to read 12 books this year. Some autist here read 100+ books a year, complete no lifers or little lying bitches trying to impress more autists on the internet.

>but being depressed and intelectual is so cool, isnt it?

One day you die and discover it was pointless anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:10:16 2014 No.5864199 >>5864193 >tfw when live in israel >sexy ethiopian girls everywhere

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:10:38 2014 No.5864200 >>5864156 26yo and no job.

>>	Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 09:10:56 2014 No.5864201 File: 409 KB, 875x1161, jaysusbegorrah.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5864177

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:11:01 2014 No.5864202 >>5864194 I've lived in The Bronx, and I disagreelol.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:12:04 2014 No.5864203 >>5864200 Do you have a degree? Also what are the best nihilist reads to get introduced to? Also at 26 what are your future plans?

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 09:12:11 2014 No.5864204 >>5864201 There is literally a thatched house right across the road from me

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:12:31 2014 No.5864205 >>5864166 Filthy animals!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:13:33 2014 No.5864207 >>5864156 I enjoy it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:14:13 2014 No.5864210 What's the point of having sex and meeting people when you could be learning?

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Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 09:14:31 2014 No.5864212

but i mean it's a good point

15 years reading philosophy or literature and all that came of it is being stuck in your room then you may as well have played video games

you're meant to take all that reading and do something with it if it's not just going to be a form of high-brow entertainment that has "cultural capital", whether it's to use it as a structure for a way of living or for writing a novel or whatever

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:15:11 2014 No.5864215 >>5864210 whats the point of learning?

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 09:15:12 2014 No.5864216 >>5864211 I have actually had so many girls give out to me for thinking.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:15:49 2014 No.5864217 >>5864212 im poor and ugly. no one likes you when youre poor and ugly

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:16:09 2014 No.5864218 >>5864205 They're a pest that lives in barnacles, growth on the side of a grand rotating revolving leviathan. exterminate them.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 09:16:46 2014 No.5864220 >>5864217 :(

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:17:02 2014 No.5864221 File: 72 KB, 514x640, 1418336707975.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5864216

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:17:15 2014 No.5864222 >>5864216 are an attractive guy though?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:17:46 2014 No.5864223 >>5864212 Epictetus represent my nigga.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:19:00 2014 No.5864224 >>5864222 yeah and is your penis a cool shape or something >>5864216 ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:19:12 2014 No.5864225 >>5864193 That's awesome >tfw you will never move to comfy Iceland ;-;

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:19:25 2014 No.5864226 /lit/ probably the most fedoracore board

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 09:19:57 2014 No.5864227 >>5864222 Ya I'm p good looking dude. It's all empty as fuck anyway though. Girls just cuddle up to you like a dog does, trying to be safe, and soon you have a dead leg and that's about all it's worth to you

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:20:56 2014 No.5864228 File: 59 KB, 777x432, 24553ats.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5864226 >not vp

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 09:21:13 2014 No.5864229 Girls are the biggest letdown in the world unless it's chasing them around the place being cheeky

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:21:26 2014 No.5864230 >>5864226 this. though /v/ is a close second. A bunch of nerds thinking they're sophisticated and deserve things because of it.

Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 09:23:33 2014 No.5864232

I got with this artist chick recently and that was kinda new for me because she wasn't a slut basically, but I was talking about a bunch of stuff, like nonstop, and she got mad because I wasn't looking at her tits while she was moving them around and shit trying to get me to lol Too funny really.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:23:33 2014 No.5864233 >>5864229 >>5864227 Pretty deep feels, bro. I guess I'll just continue to chug through Infinite Jest and watch samurai movies.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:24:23 2014 No.5864234

Reading "deep shit" has actually made me enjoy much more that other meeting people, having fun, getting new experiences an having sex.

Do you even know how empowering existentialism is?

I've also discovered other forms of enjoyment. Dude, really, reading makes life richer, more complex, even clearer.

Besides, reading is a pleasure, just like your "meeting people" shit. If you enjoy only reading, fine, and if you enjoy only meeting people, fine too. Mix them both and it's fine too. It comes down to personal preferences. Regarding social activities as more valuable than literary enjoyment is subjective, and if it's meant to be objective then it's straight up retarded.

Also, this is pretty obvious bait.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 09:24:33 2014 No.5864235 >>5864233 Yeah I wouldn't bother yourself too much about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:26:38 2014 No.5864238 >>5864234 * "made me enjoy much more that "meeting other people..." I mean, makes those social experiences better, more malleable, and more interesting.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:27:46 2014 No.5864240

>>5864235
Sex always struck me as something that people make their lives about because nothing else they do has any meaning to them. So they imply a hollywood romantic comedy narrative to contextualize their life events and then inevitably end up disappointed when the "storybook ending" doesn't come.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 09:29:01 2014 No.5864243 >>5864240 There's an absolute ridiculousness of psychology to it for the part. I'm not even going to get into it, but it is ridiculous.

Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 09:29:52 2014 No.5864246

If you study Philosophy to any significant degree it's virtually impossible to authentically interact with artists, especially women artists. Because on the one hand you'll always know more about the fundamentally important aspects of their art than they ever will (theory), but on the other hand they'll often be better at expressing the philosophy behind their art than you can directly (unless, e.g., you're Nietzsche and you wrote TSZ).

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 09:30:02 2014 No.5864247 I still like chasing girls, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:31:07 2014 No.5864249 >>5864238 I completely agree man. I find reading enhances life.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:33:34 2014 No.5864250

>>5864243
Yeah. I know what you mean. This one girl I was with had this power thing where she liked to dis-empowered during sex, like basically abused, but during the relationship was the most controlling person. I guess she was really scared of losing control so she would only do so in the controlled environment in the bedroom. She scared the hell out of me. I'm surprised she didn't slit my throat when I broke up with her.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:37:40 2014 No.5864256 >>5864247 the chasing is the best part. sounds cliche, but its true

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 09:38:01 2014 No.5864257 >>5864250 I was just on about dudes, but yeah girls are nuts too.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:38:40 2014 No.5864260

I'm poor. In the western world you can't really do anything THAT interesting if you're poor.

I used to go out with friends, get drunk, meet girls and stuff all the time. It seriously does get old and unfulfilling, that's not just a cliche. Fucking girls becomes a hassle that's barely even worth it. I still go see live music and play shows every now and then.

But mostly I do things alone and read a lot. I don't have enough money/security to travel or do anything very cool.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:38:43 2014 No.5864261

>>5864203
>Do you have a degree?
droppend college during the second year becaure stress+problems.
plus I've worked here and there for some months so I have some experience (but not so much, in the last 2 years I've worked only 31 days).

>Also what are the best nihilist reads to get introduced to?
For nihilist literature I don't know, I avoid it.

>Also at 26 what are your future plans?
Find an honest and boring job, move out of my parents house, marry a cute 3.14. I say to myself that at least I haven't any debit so when I'll find a good job all can start. Also I'm a solid 8/10 and when I'm out girls flirt with me, but without a job I don't feel enough confident for starting a relationship.
The years go on.... not interacting enough makes me weird.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 09:39:01 2014 No.5864262 >>5864256 It is - it's a fun social game, basically. Making friends.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:39:47 2014 No.5864266

>>5864246
This is an intresting opinion.

I study philosophy (at my house, by myself, but i'm convinced i do thorough enough studies) and i also paint (surreal-abstract-impressionist mostly) and do lots of photography and filming.

How would that apply to me?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:40:30 2014 No.5864268 >>5864262 yup, the only difference is with girls there is a build up of tension which eventually should be released in sex

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:41:18 2014 No.5864270
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>>5864156

Experiences are only constantly fleeting recollections of a past soon to be inevitably lost forever.

I do not seek meaning in life, but its fragility and hopelessness fills me with an existential despair like peering down a black hole and wondering how long it is going to take to fall into it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:41:43 2014 No.5864272 >>5864260 Get a grip mate. Go out there, make money, use in stuff you enjoy. Be smart about it though. Do crazy shit. Also don't stop reading.

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Mon Dec 15 09:42:53 2014 No.5864276 File: 30 KB, 400x600, MBL0056947.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5864166 Fucking degenerate. Not lit, so sage

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:46:50 2014 No.5864283 >>5864272 I'm not really unhappy or anything. I just don't care about going out anymore. Also, it isn't as easy as just "make more money". If it were everybody would be rich.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:47:31 2014 No.5864286 >>5864276 is that you?

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:48:02 2014 No.5864287

I was a shut-in for years then decided to be a normalfag and fuck a bunch of girls overseas, but it got boring incredibly fast. I don't understand how most people can let their life revolve almost entirely around relationships. It's all they talk about with a few remarks about how they hate their job.

There's nothing wrong with spending all your time fucking, clubbing and working, but don't shit on people because they prefer reading analytical philosophy and watching art house films.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:48:10 2014 No.5864289 >>5864286 Of course it is, you can tell by the watermark.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:48:53 2014 No.5864290 >>5864276 I've seen you on /gif/. I know you copulate too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:49:54 2014 No.5864294 File: 1011 KB, 160x160, 28wnqdh.jpg.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5864156 ITT Paradise confirms himself virgin

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:51:12 2014 No.5864299

>>5864283
Well, it's really a personal decision. And i never though you were unhappy.

Maybe getting involved in current philosophers, movements, stuff like that would interest you. Literature and philosophy interact with today's world in many interesting ways.

One thing i wanted to to is enlist for a Greenpeace ship. It's relatively easy, and you get to travel and get to know many new experiences. This is not to be taken lightly, but jump into it and you're bound to have an interesting time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:51:14 2014 No.5864300 >>5864289 but where are the huge tits? Also, she doesn't looks 30+ yo

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 09:52:25 2014 No.5864304 >>5864294 You wish.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:53:25 2014 No.5864306 >>5864276 Why are you so obsessed with that word?

Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 09:55:27 2014 No.5864313

>>5864266
My suspicion would be that at the very least there should be a lot of tension between your studying, especially if you are studying aesthetics, and your artistic practice. I'm suggesting that the artist's work depends on a fundamental ambiguity, either in himself, or his thought, and it's the exploration of that ambiguity that allows the artist to work, the "working-through", at least with artists who are not foremost craftsmen (e.g. realist painters) or poor equivalents of theorists (the more extreme abstract artists). Take, for example, writing, which is an art that I like, and the subject of freedom. For myself, I know exactly how to analyse and what to say about the subject of freedom: writing about it in an artistic mode would be nice if I could do it, the best of both worlds in fact, but for me there's no ambiguity to pursue (except, maybe, in terms of philosophical thought or dialectic) and therefore no real capacity for seduction on the reader's part. "Here is my argument, A B C D, learn from it."

Here is a really rough, unconsidered and abrasive few paragraphs I am working on on this subject:

What both the artist (writer, painter, sculptor, etc) and philosopher have in common is the conveyance of a sense of the world in their works and the ability to contribute to or alter culture. The problem with the relation between them is similar to the relation between artist and critic, except here the problem is more essential, and it doesn't have that same explicit dynamic of parasitism.

The artist is obscenely naked before the philosopher, who can do nothing other than strip away the seductive layers with which the artist drapes her vision or product.

In contrast to the artist the philosopher is an like inhibited prude. He can't stomach the illusion the artist creates in good conscience. He typically has no grace, no subtletly in his language; he always ruins the moment by opening his mouth to speak. When he does try his hand at the artist's practice, no matter how well he tries to hide it, he is nothing more than an imitator, because he has already disrobed the affects in his own soul that an artist must necessarily remain ignorant of. The artist seduces with rhetoric. The philosopher here is certainly a contemptible figure, someone who hasn't the good sense to know when to buy into the illusion that the artist creates so well.

However, on the grand aesthetic scale the philosopher himself is an artist, more of an artist than any conventional artist could hope to be. The philosopher's work is an aesthetic product just as much as the production of any artist, although by comparison its medium is especially crude, in the manner spoken of above. Where an artist uses a rich medium to convey the contents of their soul, the philosopher has invariably tended to use dry and rigid reasoning and argumentation.

etc

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:58:00 2014 No.5864320 File: 79 KB, 467x560, 2IAju2E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5864304 ..again

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:58:07 2014 No.5864321 File: 34 KB, 500x750, ITbnj.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5864156 >existential philosophy >deep shit pick one

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:58:20 2014 No.5864322 >>5864156 >out meeting people, having fun, getting new experiences and having sex? You grow out of that shit in your early 20s, unless you're some sort of perpetual manchild.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 09:59:28 2014 No.5864326 >>5864321 What is deep shit then?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:01:10 2014 No.5864329 >>5864217 I'm poor and ugly too. Not even the poor and ugly wish to hang out with me and I do not wish to hang out with them. That shit would be too depressing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:02:11 2014 No.5864331 >>5864322 Bit of a pleonasm, that.

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Mon Dec 15 10:02:12 2014 No.5864332 File: 161 KB, 604x402, Guðrún Bjarnadóttir 01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5864306 I just like throwing back in their faces. That is a "degenerate" stance, not the liking of sex. Guðrún Bjarnadóttir Good'ay

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 10:05:34 2014 No.5864336 >>5864313 Pretty much the entirety of your posting that I've seen so far has been you waxing your own dick, mate :P

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:06:45 2014 No.5864338

>>5864313
That is very, very good. And you're right, in my case, about the ambiguity.

I'm sorry i won't give a worthy answer to this, but you just fucked with my mind for a moment, and i'm beginning to analyze how i work. I've been doing it for months, but this is a new perspective.

My email is zapesrv@hotmail.com. When you're done writing please let me know how i can read it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:08:33 2014 No.5864339 >>5864158 Yep. This is the only philosophy I subscribe to. I basically live for dank memes. If it wasn't for memes, I would have killed myself long ago. Memes and the thought of hurting my family are what keeps me alive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:09:19 2014 No.5864341 >>5864336 >>5864313 If only there were a tripfag showdown where they tragi-comically wiped out each other

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:10:11 2014 No.5864342

>>5864156
>when you can be out meeting people, having fun, getting new experiences and having sex
I did. It's overrated. However, I probably couldn't handle curves in your pic, as she would crush my dick. It would be a nice way to end this ride when I'm retired, tho.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:10:15 2014 No.5864343 >>5864329 >>5864217 at leat you looks like you are. >tfw you're like a majestic cake that everyone want to bite, but you knows that your flavor doesn't match your looks. You know that in the end all are disappointed, then you stay alone.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:11:25 2014 No.5864346

>not doing both

>not having to bother whether am I not wasting my time by spending time with my gf and friends
>not having to bother whether am I not living my life the right way while reading Plato and Aristotle every day

>not having to bother whether am I going to have financial problems while living lifestyle such as that since while Im 18, in last three years I have developed a trading business that is now earning me 4-times the average wage in my country.

you just gotta take the right steps

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:11:53 2014 No.5864350 >>5864313 Get your head out of your ass There are exceptions

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 10:12:16 2014 No.5864351 >>5864341 I am unvanquishable, m8. I'm too clever

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:12:27 2014 No.5864352 File: 102 KB, 800x1158, 800px-Harry_Belafonte_2011_Shankbone.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i don't really want anything is this normal

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:12:50 2014 No.5864353 >>5864163 probably not best to spend all your time reading if you want to give something back

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:12:58 2014 No.5864354 >>5864343 At least people wanna bite you. ;_;

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:13:22 2014 No.5864355 >>5864270 You should read Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:14:15 2014 No.5864358

>>5864313
5 star post

I often feel as if I'm far too 'analytic' (thats not to say I'm particularly good at being so) in nature to actually be 'artistic'. I'm destined to be a critic, at best.

If anything, these sort of 'realizations' just made me, to bring the thread topic back in to play, work towards getting a decent STEM job so I can move across the country to somewhere relevant and 'experience' things instead of just living the pseud life. With every day I've just come to become increasingly self-involved to the point where I deny the need to actually be 'aesthetically involved' anyway. I only read books and watch film, etc since I have nothing better to do really. I fear that there is nothing better for me to do, considering that every time i've immersed myself in popular society I just end up becoming a hermit months later after realizing how much i dislike it.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 10:15:27 2014 No.5864361 >>5864353 Writing seems to me a really good way to do it.

Sebastián Mon Dec 15 10:18:15 2014 No.5864370

>>5864358

I am exceedingly analytic. We're talking about extremely analytic here. And i also like semantics and that makes thing a lot more complicated.

But being "artistic" is still possible without denying everything that you've learned. Artistry does not imply a certain degree of stupidity or naivety, nevermind ignorance. Art is not necessarily partial, and it just simply becomes harder to do, but not impossible.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 10:19:46 2014 No.5864373 Good art is manipulation.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:23:22 2014 No.5864379

>>5864361
kind of. i recommend stepping outside. volunteer at a homeless shelter or picking up trash. a million poems/journal articles/novels are worth less than a cup of soup. don't get me wrong i love literature and writing but lets not pretend that its helping the world.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:23:35 2014 No.5864381 >>5864373 No it's not

>>	Sebastián Mon Dec 15 10:24:06 2014 No.5864383 >>5864373 Things go a bit deeper than that.. Keep thinking.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:25:24 2014 No.5864385 >>5864287 it's just sad when people like me only do the latter because they are weak and incapable of socialization

Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 10:26:08 2014 No.5864386

>>5864336
Pretty much the entirety of your posting that I've seen so far has been boring fucking shit that could be substituted for anyone else's posts over the last 3-4 years I've posted here. Consider the power relationship here: you're responding in all your abject knee-jerking ignorance to me, I'm the focal point of exchange, not you.

>>5864350
>There are exceptions
Of course, I already cited Nietzsche, didn't I? And this is just in the West, it's a different kettle of fish again in East-Asian philosophy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:26:13 2014 No.5864387 File: 14 KB, 300x370, 2i0ytja.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5864351 >I'm too clever

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 10:26:53 2014 No.5864389 >>5864381 Yes it is. All art in fact - but I equate good art with soul. >>5864383 Not really.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:26:57 2014 No.5864390 >>5864156 What's the point of you living still?

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 10:28:34 2014 No.5864392 >>5864386 Oh, get over yourself lmfao. You're a joke, dude.

>>	Sebastián Mon Dec 15 10:28:49 2014 No.5864394 >>5864389 If you say so. >Good >Art >Manipulation At least base your statements. Don't just throw them around.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:30:04 2014 No.5864395 >>5864389 How is all art manipulative then? That's a pretty specific and limiting description And you equate good art with some intangible, abstract notion. So it's not really based in anything

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:30:21 2014 No.5864397 Testing

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:30:35 2014 No.5864399 The only problem with my existential crisis. Is I can't do shit, stuck at him, working job, don't have time to meet friends irl so i just sit back and read waiting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:33:08 2014 No.5864404 >>5864373 manipulation of?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:33:19 2014 No.5864406 >>5864397 You did it, my friend. Welcome to the community, now get out.

Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 10:33:46 2014 No.5864407

>>5864394
Most art is petty, merely playing on some autismal current being. Porn, for example; or painting 'pretty' pictures - these things mean next to nothing to me. And music is another one, largely - the auditory probably the most autistically controlled sense. But to move a person from one place to the next; to meet a person in their darkness and give them some sense of hope - these things are real art; and most aware of their manipulation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:34:55 2014 No.5864410 >>5864399 im just now emerging from mine you need to talk to people becoming a person happens when you start to show compassion and stop thinking for yourself

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 10:35:56 2014 No.5864411 >>5864407 I made a bunch of posts in a fashion thread on here about it recently, if any of you read it. I mean, is cooking an art? Really? Art for me is the soul's expression.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:36:39 2014 No.5864412 >>5864395 *Good art

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:36:46 2014 No.5864413 >>5864407 I agree with you dude. Wish I was closer to Ireland so we could hang. You sound pretty chill. Art, really any medium always has a message and is attempting to sway your opinion or teach you something.

Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 10:39:20 2014 No.5864420

Picasso paints cubes; Joyce's plays with punctuation - these things are trivial beyond comprehension. And yet it's these subtle little changes that appeal to the autist, it's a branch of the current, not too much - it is pitiful that this should be the height of art. (Of course Joyce might be a means to an end.)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:39:56 2014 No.5864421 >>5864413 byzantine icons don't sway opinions or teach anything

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 10:40:21 2014 No.5864423 >>5864413 :)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:42:44 2014 No.5864425 >>5864420 trivial?

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 10:43:03 2014 No.5864427 I mean what worth in rhyming words? You might as well be building with lego: yellow, red, blue, yellow, red, blue. The art is in emotion and its movement.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 10:44:03 2014 No.5864433 >>5864425 Yes, trivial - oh so fucking trivial.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 10:45:11 2014 No.5864436 Communism is a real art. Religion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:45:58 2014 No.5864439 >>5864433 how is it trivial?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:46:13 2014 No.5864440 >>5864212 >you're meant to take all that reading and do something with it Why

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:47:31 2014 No.5864442 >>5864266 >surreal-abstract-impressionist

Sebastián Mon Dec 15 10:48:03 2014 No.5864445

>>5864407
>>5864420

I know this point of view.

Dude, from there, everything looks meaningless, not enough. A painting is just a liquid in some tissue, a book is just some dude who decided to press some keys and tell something --

The ability to marvel over relatively small, simple, things and to find them a meaning when you want to is a great one. Makes life more enjoyable. Play with your standards of worth regarding art, they mustn't be objective.

If you look at Monet through the eyes of Michelangelo, of course it's shit.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:48:50 2014 No.5864446

>>5864156
>So whats the point of sitting in your room by your self and reading "deep shit" like existential philosophy and such when you can be out meeting people, having fun, getting new experiences and having sex?
ook ho's tryna sound smart n shit using complicated terms n adverbs n prepositions an shit

u thinks you sound smart with yo poetry fagshit you cocksucking piece of shit ?

get the fuck outta here befo' I shove your meter up yo ass you gigantic pedantic cum extractor

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 10:49:58 2014 No.5864450 >>5864445 I would be embarrassed, in truth, to lower myself to such standards. It would feel like a copout.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:50:07 2014 No.5864451 >>5864442 I meant surrealism, abstract things and impressionism. Separately. Kek. i know some of those "postmodern existentialist race through social prejudices with a touch of brutally logical and swift neo-post-meta-realism" artists.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:51:31 2014 No.5864455 >>5864336 Why do you even use a trip? Do you enjoy having the reputation of a prominent dumbass?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:51:40 2014 No.5864457 /lit/, stop being so easy to troll.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:51:51 2014 No.5864460 File: 25 KB, 300x300, 5968872.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I became a writer because the good things in life were beyond my reach.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:52:59 2014 No.5864465 >>5864420 He does a lot more than play with punctuation you moron

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:53:24 2014 No.5864466 I fucking hate tripfags so much.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 10:53:31 2014 No.5864467 >>5864455 I control the flow of this board more so than anyone else, anon. The majority of threads are made on the backs of my posts. And that's art. :)

Sebastián Mon Dec 15 10:54:38 2014 No.5864471

>>5864450

This is valid. The fairly easy changes in my standards are an utilitarian way for me to enjoy art more.

Although, i have to ask: what do you think about conceptual art? These guys that do minimalist stains of paint in huge canvases, or put rocks in empty rooms as a simbolic act... you must think it's shit.

What is true art then?

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 10:55:00 2014 No.5864474 >>5864465 That's his gimmick, though, fucktard. And that's pretty much the entirety of what you pseuds on here read into him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:56:04 2014 No.5864481 I just do what I can to have "fun" and since I'm socially inept this is about all I can come up with.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:56:07 2014 No.5864482 >>5864445 >If you look at Monet through the eyes of Michelangelo, of course it's shit. Underrated post

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 10:57:05 2014 No.5864486 >>5864471 I think modern art is the straw that breaks the camel's back. True art is a hard one to nail down, but politics and religion come close to it.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:59:29 2014 No.5864494

Around two years ago, before I delved myself into reading, I had the life you described. I was a dancer, a breakdancer in fact, in the considered to be hip and fun culture, so I had a good deal of conversing with people laughing with them. Every week I was going to some throwdown jam, where there would be all kinds of folk gathered; and every month there was some sort of a bigger event, where you would meet even more people, just crowds of them sitting and having a good time. Being a competitor there, I can say I had my share of getting to known people. But in the end, everything about such life stank. And I suppose I always felt like not fitting in, everything felt so dull and numb around me. I could relate with what others felt, but those feeling were so shallow I couldn't invest myself fully into believing them.

Reading books opened me to more pleasurable lifestyle. Getting myself to known the vast different sensuous experience that one can get to feel, recall those experiences and merge them with my own, on a whole providing a more sensitive living. Now I can only snicker at and petty the people who doesn't read anything, whose idea of fun living is constituted of brute like, senseless partying and having sex like horny monkeys. These are the experiences deprived of anything deliberate to them, they experience life less.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 10:59:50 2014 No.5864497 >>5864276 you would look interesting if anorectic tbh

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 11:00:42 2014 No.5864499 >>5864486 Or perhaps the person himself is art, much more so than anything he creates.

>>	Sebastián Mon Dec 15 11:01:13 2014 No.5864503 >>5864486 Well, your concept of art goes along the lines of modernity. Youre being full-blown conceptual here. Of course merely material art, pure aesthetics will never matter to you. Just acknowledge where you're standing. That's what matters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:03:03 2014 No.5864507 >>5864467 ewwwwww "cringe" does not even begin to describe how I felt when I read this post

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:03:10 2014 No.5864509 This is the most advanced shitposting I have ever seen.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 11:04:06 2014 No.5864512 >>5864503 It's more, though. It's the transcendental. And I don't begrudge anyone their meaningless pleasantries; but it certainly does irk me when it completely consumes them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:04:14 2014 No.5864513 File: 33 KB, 500x375, LaughingDogs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5864156 >existential philosophy Who the fuck reads that shit? Teenagers and chumps going through midlife crisis?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:04:29 2014 No.5864515 Because I can't meet new people and have fun so I read instead.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 11:05:10 2014 No.5864518 >>5864507 It's true :) And I love it.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:06:43 2014 No.5864522
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>>5864355

Ironically, I just finished it a few days ago and was just about to start "through the looking glass" today. Isn't that something? It was a good read and look very forward to its next installment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:06:50 2014 No.5864523 >>5864467 Your archive is full of undigested products of shitty thoughts, much like most of this board, so if anything you are part of the flow, the only difference is that you have a label on you

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:07:00 2014 No.5864525 >>5864156 Whynotboth.jpg

Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 11:07:57 2014 No.5864529

>>5864392
It's rather you who really needs to get over yourself, although it goes for everyone else in the thread as well. No matter how long you spend on your farm or moving from this place or that, or having this or that experience with whoever, it is simply impossible to work things out on any significant level (and therefore to appreciate them on any more significant level), even if only to the point where you can make posts as effortlessly as I can that enrage people like you, without subordinating yourself to proper philosophical tradition and actually doing some fucking reading. It took most of the best philosophers the major part of their lives to work through their philosophy, it is simply physically impossible to recreate or improve upon that tradition without studying it.

But you won't do this because your head is still firmly up your ass and you're not willing to think any less of yourself, you will probably do what everyone else does, take an interest in your mid 30s or early 40s when you have squandered the most potentially fruitful years on your life. I suppose it's an unavoidable consequence that goes with our modern individualism.

>>5864407
>painting 'pretty' pictures - these things mean next to nothing to me. And music is another one, largely - the auditory probably the most autistically controlled sense.
Now this right here is thoroughly degenerate, your use of the term autism to refer to the developed traditions and mechanics of an art, what are properly termed as developed expressions of love for something, is simply insulting. No doubt in some over-developed forms the term 'autistic' in its negative sense is applicable, but certainly not appropriate for the majority of artistic achievement.

>But to move a person from one place to the next; to meet a person in their darkness and give them some sense of hope - these things are real art
What the fuck do you think art does, idiot? Most art should do just this - it is inspirational, it produces motion (not simply "from one place to the next" but from lower to higher forms of life in general) and recuperative (it gives the ultimate sense of hope, not just hope but, as you are fond of using the term, dick-waxing, glorification, expression of self-love), and for fuck's sake, just hope? Art isn't only there as a curative for sick people, its only function for sick people is as a narcotic. Sick people don't have a monopoly on art as "hope" by any means. For fundamentally healthy people it is inspirational and relaxational.

>>5864420
>And yet it's these subtle little changes that appeal to the autist, it's a branch of the current, not too much - it is pitiful that this should be the height of art.
Techniques aren't the height of art, they are what facilitates the attainment of its height. Your derogative term, autism, is necessary in order to develop a fuller, more powerful expression.

Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 11:09:28 2014 No.5864531

>>5864523
Of course I'm part of the flow. But it's like being the bigger fish that parts the waters more :)

I don't mean to be bigheaded here btw. I'm not a cunt. But that's just the real art of it for me. To move things, not to get caught up in the details of the movement.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:09:31 2014 No.5864532 >>5864522 That's not irony.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:10:10 2014 No.5864533 >>5864474 >That's his gimmick You've never actually read a book by Joyce have you

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 11:10:29 2014 No.5864535 >>5864529 I'm honestly not going to bother reading that, m8. I am aware you are a fool.

Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 11:10:57 2014 No.5864537

>>5864486
>True art is a hard one to nail down, but politics and religion come close to it.
Holy hell, this is about as far from the mark as it gets. What the fuck do you think most modern art is now if not politics, which may as well be interchangeable with religion as most people practice it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:10:59 2014 No.5864538 >>5864532 Only partially ironic because it was an unexpected coincidence.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:11:53 2014 No.5864541 >>5864529 >Now this right here is thoroughly degenerate >>>/pol/

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 11:12:09 2014 No.5864542 >>5864533 Check the archives for a thread on fashion, I explain myself more thoroughly there. I'm not saying Joyce wasn't a genius - I'm very much aware that he was.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:17:51 2014 No.5864552 Everything is pointless. Even money and pussy is. For god's sake just do whatever you please and stop this comparing of dick sizes, be it the sexual dick or the intellectual dick.

>>	Smoek !!9zRBolCQfTA Mon Dec 15 11:17:59 2014 No.5864553 >>5864193 Hvar ertu heima? Ég ætla að fara til Íslands.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:18:07 2014 No.5864555

>>5864518
Dude when do you even sleep? You're literally always here. I'm seriously starting to think that your trip is just a bunch of semi-retards taking turns at responding to every post ever. My life is sad, but yours is performance art levels of terrible (and I mean that in the worst way possible). It's like you actually think that people care about your opinion. Your very existence boggles the mind (again, do not try to spin this into a positive).

That's it. I'm filtering you. I don't know why I didn't do it sooner.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:18:48 2014 No.5864557 What's the point of doing "funny shit" and having sex when you can read existential philosophy?

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 11:19:02 2014 No.5864559 >>5864555 What a delusional child you are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:20:08 2014 No.5864562 >>5864555 How do you filter posters?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:20:13 2014 No.5864563 >>5864535 He actually towers over you intellectually, you could learn a thing or two from his posts

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:20:40 2014 No.5864564 >>5864246 >study history and deep into philosophy >know this artist >talk about that stuff with him >he expresses it >everyone lauds him for it Oh well, I guess I'll be the invisible guru then.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 11:21:12 2014 No.5864566 >>5864563 No he doesn't, he's a delusional wanker.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:23:22 2014 No.5864575 File: 74 KB, 501x491, Filtering.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5864562 It's in the settings. See attached pic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:26:52 2014 No.5864582 >>5864535 He is ripping your asshole up. Really just shows what a fool you are when you can't even answer him

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:28:13 2014 No.5864590 >>5864379 this or do both

Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 11:30:02 2014 No.5864596

Let's get this out of the way right now, because your use of the term 'autism' is fucking retarded m8y.

It's not autistic if it genuinely contributes to the development of an art or practice. It's autistic if it serves no such purpose.

'Couture' is autistic, although fashionfags will disagree.
'Cubism' is autistic.
'Alt lit' is autistic.

>You know what fashion is like, though? Porn - how a dude's taste for porn gets freakier and freakier as he goes, but is always just one step forward from where he last was.
Couture is like porn, not fashion. And as far as your logic of taste is concerned, this is simply a reflection of your own personality and your inability to moderate excess. Enjoyment of porn does not necessarily lead to fetishism, that's what happens when you either HAVE TOO MUCH OF IT, in which case you need to get a fucking life, as would happen with any other past-time, or become a "connoisseur", which is the non-judgmental term for an autist in this case. And you're really such a judgmental cunt when it comes to this fetishism, because it's not "freakier" for the person who develops their taste in this respect, it is a natural development or a profusion of their desire. You are simply projecting socialised consciousness of the phenomenon, a negative consciousness which is in keeping your derisive use of the term 'autism', when you're just a fucking autistic when it comes to judging fetishism and desire. As you say, take the next fucking step already.

All of this idiotic thinking that you are struggling with in terms of excess and fetishism would be perfectly at home in the libidinal economies of someone like Bataille, who explained all of this much better, for example, but you will probably never read him or anyone like him because you are ridiculously over-confident in your own thinking.

In any case, your narrow-minded thinking in terms of fetishism and gateway drugs is yet another obvious consequence of modern, probably christian and Greek, individualism. They don't have this problem an East-Asian tradition like that of Daoism where excess is just fucking dumb and unhealthy because you can't appreciate the basics anymore, e.g. you can't jerk off to normal porn, better to have a sense of moderation in order to be able to appreciate the whole spectrum. Your thought is really more in line with the Greek heroic ideal of excess as hubris or transgression, probably filtered through christian ascetism with your interest in boring-ass shit like bondage.

Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 11:30:49 2014 No.5864599

>>5864582
I read his post and he basically said everything I said back at me, only with some bullshit about 'relaxational' thrown in. Oh, and apparently I should have read a whole load to have posted what he repeated to me with a few retardedly empty exclamations thrown in.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 11:33:23 2014 No.5864609 >>5864596 lmao you are such a pseud

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:33:49 2014 No.5864611 >>5864599 You're an embaressment mate

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:34:54 2014 No.5864614 >>5864599 >>5864609 >i can't engage him in a discussion so I'll just name call him Now that is pathetic

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 11:34:58 2014 No.5864615 >>5864611 Sure I am. And yet your buddy just posts what I post back at me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:35:07 2014 No.5864617 File: 32 KB, 479x77, Screen Shot 2014-12-15 at 8.34.45 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5864575 thanks

Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 11:35:19 2014 No.5864618

And of course even if he does go off and read Bataille he'll think he's full of shit because of the solar anus or something or because it's not "hard science", without really taking in any of the important parts because they're too "pretentious".

This is the sort of asshole we're dealing with.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:35:55 2014 No.5864619 >>5864156 I perfer contemplation to teen pussy. I really do.

Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 11:36:46 2014 No.5864622

>>5864614
You're dumb, m8. Once again, he's literally saying everything I said back at me, only with a pathetic little spiel about fetishism thrown in lmfao. And I admitted myself I shouldn't have been calling it autism, too, but it just serves as a nice illustrator/comes with the punch I want :)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:37:18 2014 No.5864625 >>5864622 Where did you say what he said?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:38:22 2014 No.5864627 Can anyone post nudes from the OP girl ?

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 11:39:22 2014 No.5864630 >>5864625 Across this thread and the one he's quoting from. D&E, enjoy feeling like a pseud later, m8 ;)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:39:48 2014 No.5864631 >>5864232 You are a huge faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:40:12 2014 No.5864632 >>5864617 Enjoy. We're finally free, my friend. I seriously feel like a weight has been lifted. Every time I read one of those retarded posts, it made my day worse.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 11:40:59 2014 No.5864637 >>5864631 I've considered that; but I doubt it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:44:01 2014 No.5864652 >>5864632 >>5864617 I filtered them too. What a bunch of retards. I'm sure they are legitimate mental deficients both of them.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:47:01 2014 No.5864664

>>5864637

So you're a huge self-righteous faggot. I've seen you posting here for weeks, and in nearly every thread you resort to fucking teenage internet-isms and basic ad hominem bullshit.

You're a wanker mate, /lit/ hates you, you contribute nothing but an odd model for how-not-to-carry-oneself, standing in the corner for Anon to occasionally check himself against.

Just go, man.

Just go.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:47:02 2014 No.5864665 >>5864652 I can filter tripfags? Jesus, didn't know that. This is the happiest day of my life!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:53:04 2014 No.5864676 >>5864665 You can filter memes too.

Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 11:53:05 2014 No.5864677

We're both talking fundamentally about the same thing on some level, the difference is I can explain it through 2000 years of philosophy, demonstrate its practical implications, and contrast it with an entirely different tradition, whereas he all he can do, and all he probably will ever be able to do, is hand-waving and gesturing in its general direction and maybe have the same couple of inklings about it that everyone else does every few years.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:53:24 2014 No.5864679

>>5864156
>reading "deep shit" like existential philosophy
It's not judging and rewarding in its own sense. It also says that sitting in a room is just as absurd as going out to procreate.

>when you can be out meeting people
I don't want to meet people that have nothing in common with me. Those that have something in common are not outside to be met.

>having fun
going out != having fun
>getting new experiences
new experience != good experience
>and having sex?
I can't afford it.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:53:41 2014 No.5864682

Look, anons, it's realy fucking simple. Tripshits have one thing in common: they are needy. They want to be recognized. Similar to most needy people, they're insufferable. Now, what happens if you give a needy cunt the recognition they seek? Do they stop being needy cunts? Yes or no?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:54:21 2014 No.5864686 >>5864677 This tripfag is the only tripfag I've ever seen speak something sensical.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:55:48 2014 No.5864691

>>5864559
>>5864566
>>5864599
>>5864609
>>5864622
By posting your bullshit all you've done is demonstrate to us how ignorant and immature you are. I know that it is easier to excuse your losses by calling him names rather than admitting that he is just way better than you but try being a man and stop lying to yourself. Leave the world of illusions m8, I know you can do it.You can bring up as many foolish excuses as you wish like "he's saying what I said", call him a wanker, deluded, but nothing will deny the fact that every single time he crushes your undigested arguments with brilliant logic and knowledge.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 11:56:18 2014 No.5864694 >>5864677 lmao W/e you say bro. >>5864664 I'll be gone shortly, anon ;) And you can all go back to your calling each other faggots and telling each other to kill yourselves and having anti-feminism threads like absolute losers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:58:07 2014 No.5864700 >>5864694 We will :) Bye

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 11:58:19 2014 No.5864701 >>5864682 >that glorious feel when filtering all subhuman tripfags and namefags

Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 12:00:45 2014 No.5864711

>>5864691
No, it's actual fact, though. Have a look back through this thread and the absolute pettiness of it - the anons posting pics of their having filtered me and D&E, for example. This place is absolute hive of retarded delusion - everyone a faggot, for another example.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 12:01:46 2014 No.5864714 >>5864700 How pathetic a creature you are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:02:17 2014 No.5864718 >>5864711 I don't care about this thread, about talking about you specifically and D&E

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:03:18 2014 No.5864721 >>5864718 I'm

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:04:12 2014 No.5864723 >>5864691 HE DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT, HE JUST WANTS ATTENTION. YOU ARE PAYING HIM ATTENTION. STOP DOING THAT.

Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 12:04:18 2014 No.5864724

>And you can all go back to your calling each other faggots and telling each other to kill yourselves and having anti-feminism threads like absolute losers.
>Have a look back through this thread and the absolute pettiness of it - the anons posting pics of their having filtered me and D&E, for example.
You don't think you're any better than them, do you? Your knee-jerk reaction to me isn't fundamentally different to their petty ignorance. Talk to them about filtering, they'll give the same outraged, ill-considered species of responses as you will to me about my posts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:04:27 2014 No.5864725 Some of us aren't very good at that. I personally am very shy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:05:25 2014 No.5864729 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIaAS9Vq1oE

Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 12:11:07 2014 No.5864737

>>5864718
Oh, well he just admitted we were talking about the same thing, just he's lacing it with philosophers' names. What's that smell like, anon? A pseud maybe? I'm just calling it like it is.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's learning all this stuff here and now from me in fact, just regurgitating it with his bullshit attached.

>>5864724
Oh give it a rest. My responses to you are wholly rationalised. I knew you were worthy of my contempt from the first post I read of you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:12:31 2014 No.5864740 >>5864212 Most sane thing I've read in a while. Probably because I liked Nicomachean Ethics a lot.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:13:52 2014 No.5864744
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I like reading, that doesn't mean it's the only thing I do (thank god people tend to like me somehow so it's kind of easy for me to socialize).

I don't think there's anything wrong with reading all day though

>>5864714
not even him, but I've seen many of your posts and I can't for the life of me figure out if you're always being annoying and stupid on purpose or not.
If you are... Doesn't that get a little boring after a while?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:16:01 2014 No.5864750 So first you fall for shitty /sp/-tier bait, then you derail it by arguing with tripfags? Get yourself the fuck together, /lit/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:17:55 2014 No.5864755 >>5864156 Im married. Also: "I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit."

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:20:18 2014 No.5864765 >>5864750 Is /lit/ the most easily trollable board because of all the anal-retentiveness and Obsessive Compulsiveness to be always correct?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:21:46 2014 No.5864769 >>5864765 /v/ is way easier to troll but yes, it's still pretty amazing to see how people here on /lit/ can fall for this kind of shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:23:43 2014 No.5864776 >>5864765 Let's not forget the lack of moderation, but yeah, most likely. Others fall for trolls just as often, but they drop it after awhile. /lit/ just keeps arguing hour after hour.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:26:14 2014 No.5864781 >>5864379 what if i don't care about 'helping the world'?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:27:08 2014 No.5864784 >>5864765 it is a leftist board on a relatively conservative/nihilistic site, so yes

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:27:17 2014 No.5864785

>>5864737
No shit Sherlock, you are both debating the same topic, and he happens to have a much wider array of knowledge that gives enormous weight to any of his arguments. that you will most likely never attain due to your your naïve faith in your own world of illusions. Like, I don't even know what to say, you're not even hiding your ignorance, you approach any worthy counter-argument with a closed mind and gestures of denial and the only time you may attempt to defend your already crippled position is by hand-waving in the direction of the same short-sighted, half-assed and undigested claims that led to this debate in the first place. Maybe if you approached responses like his with a more open mind you could avoid the problems with knowledge and logic that you are facing atm

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:28:32 2014 No.5864788 >>5864785 Stop feeding the trolls.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:29:10 2014 No.5864790

Of course they're rationalised, they're just not very interesting, which I suppose is what happens when you think you're above theory, which is to say, above reading the thoughts of people who studied the thing you're interested in for the entirety of their lives. And isn't this really the height of what you'd call a 'pseud'? Someone who seriously thinks they can simply appropriate or recreate the entirety of western thought ex nihilo, in the space of 70-80 years? It would be downright narcissism if that was sincerely considered, but I suspect you are not narcissistic, just ignorant and lazy, like most people.

I've only cited one name throughout this discussion, and it is really only in the hopes that you will go away and read him at some point, besides that it is simply to make clear that what you are saying is fucking boring dude, someone already thought of it and damn well ran with it. It's not that I'm repeating what you're saying, it's that you're repeating what SOMEONE ELSE already said way fucking better.

In any case, I would be flattered that you think I'm worthy of your contempt, but contempt for you seems to be nothing more than childish knee-jerking, and there is nothing particularly flattering about having an intellectual toddler act out because he thinks he's the center of the conceptual universe.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:29:47 2014 No.5864791

>>5864769

I don't know, /v/ seems hard to troll because they have become to used to being a high-volume board that has long since degenerated into being "/b/-lite." They also seem to embrace their retarded and faggotedness. Its like /b/ being the hardest board to troll by far, /v/ is next in line to them.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:30:32 2014 No.5864793

What you have to gain from this, Deep&Edgy?

He already admitted defeat from the point where he ignored your reflections and stood impenetrable in his ignorance. Didn't you see how this petulant vermin only mustered a mocking expression already trite in 4chan, recognized from the exemplary form of his inviolable to reason posts? He can only sneer from your grand shadow of knowledge, even imitate it from his jealous nature.

Maybe you only do this to inform the newfolk of how irrelevant some trips are, whose mind can't afford a better thought. You pushed their shit in the past, but no one seems to take the time to research through archives before attempting to post a new thread.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 12:30:34 2014 No.5864794 >>5864785 You don't get it, dumbass. He's basically agreeing with me, only with a pseud's flourishes attached.

>>	Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 12:30:41 2014 No.5864795 forgot my trip :)

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 12:32:11 2014 No.5864799 >>5864790 Give it a rest, retard. You're a windbag.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:32:41 2014 No.5864801 >>5864791 on /v/ it has come to the point in which it's hard to say who is trolling who. Trust me on this one: no matter what, if you find the weak spot of the moment you will be able to make a 400 replies long thread by starting it with a troll

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:33:57 2014 No.5864804 >>5864794 lol, I guess whatever version makes you content with the embaressing situation you are facing atm m8y

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:33:58 2014 No.5864805 >>5864765 It's because of the learned false guilt for being introverted instead of being extroverted.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:34:08 2014 No.5864806 >>5864156 Becuase that's what I like to do. Why should I do something that I don't like to do when I can do something that I like?

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 12:35:01 2014 No.5864808 So you're posting at me as anons, too, D&E? To what purpose?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:35:46 2014 No.5864809 >>5864156 >implying I don't read muh deep shit in library full of qts

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:36:11 2014 No.5864810 >>5864246 I have masters both in philosophy and music composition. You are an idiot, as usual.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:38:03 2014 No.5864813 >>5864799 here he goes again, keep it up matey, you are making everyone's day :}

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 12:39:18 2014 No.5864816 >>5864813 Pathetic. Anyway, I'm going to bow out, let's leave the fool to his petty devices :)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:40:08 2014 No.5864819 >>5864156 What's the point of going out, having sex, etc? Begging the question, OP. Reading philosophy is just as much of an "experience" as doing these things. It's also, potentially, just as "fun," which is an obvious motivation for doing either.

Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 12:42:00 2014 No.5864822

I mean, you could look at it this way if it soothes your ego:

You mightn't have studied any serious philosophers but by gum you've stumbled upon some of the same magnificent insights (just as how every imbecile stoner realises that, of course, like, everything is one man, deus sive natura, like, developing an art beyond what is strictly necessary is fundamentally autistic man etc) they did. I guess the only significant difference is that, just like the stoner, you can't express that fundamental insight in any coherent, holistic and rational way, whereas they could, and that's why everyone will remember what they said and no-one will remember what you said.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 12:43:11 2014 No.5864825 >>5864822 lmao, go back to your retarded piece about philosophers not being able to communicate with artists dude

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:44:58 2014 No.5864828 >feel guilty for not being social and "making experiences"(?) >once outside regret the decision >repeat While I am stuck in a circle other anons have managed to dismantle and overcome their guilt by going out. When did the realization dawn upon you?

>>	Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 12:46:09 2014 No.5864831 We can discuss my admittedly very rough piece if it makes you feel less insecure about your own directionless hand-waving statements, sure :)

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 12:47:48 2014 No.5864835 >>5864831 I'm about a thousand times more profound than you :) This is my art, friend.

>>	Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 12:48:39 2014 No.5864841 And again notice it, I said at the start that I was the fulcrum around which our discussion hinged, that I was the one dictating the power relationship, and lo and behold, now he wants us to come back to my own posts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:48:54 2014 No.5864842 >>5864156 I do it because I don't fit the le mustaches are awesome and I love guides to pseudomanliness crowd

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 12:50:13 2014 No.5864845 >>5864841 Stop, m8, I'm bothering my brother with my laughing, he's trying to watch telly

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:51:11 2014 No.5864848 But what else is there to do? I got bored of vidya and anime.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 12:51:14 2014 No.5864849 >>5864845 >"hurr I'm a stupid cunt, he is posting because I am a stupid cunt"

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:51:50 2014 No.5864852 File: 22 KB, 300x258, p_w.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5864828 yeah, I used to feel the same. It's not that bad though >>5864841 I can't believe you're still replying him. Get your shit together m8

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:52:10 2014 No.5864854 >implying I can't do both >implying I don't do both

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:52:29 2014 No.5864855 >>5864825 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 12:53:01 2014 No.5864857 >>5864852 Take this anons win, D&E - he thinks you're a cool guy :)

Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 12:54:00 2014 No.5864858

And what harm, after all. We'd have nothing to talk about with his idiotic nonsense, he'd be lost for words. I'm hard pressed after a cursory glance through his post history to find a single post with more than three lines to it, a real daoist sage by the looks of things.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:54:15 2014 No.5864859
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>>5864156

I'm an unemployed college dropout. I don't have any money and it's impossible to find a job here. I live in a small kitchen with my mom(not even kidding). All day I read books and watch dumb videos on youtube and on weekends I get drunk with friends. I meet lots of people and sometimes I get laid.

>i feel like a worthless piece of shit
>wat do, my c/lit/s?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:54:40 2014 No.5864860 File: 158 KB, 310x369, 1372360341063.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5864857

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:56:00 2014 No.5864861 File: 32 KB, 550x550, 10568865_731156783607121_6989064796658180439_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Most people are evil and should be kept at a safe distance.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:56:14 2014 No.5864862 >>5864313 Fuck dude, I think my greatest intellectual fear is to end up like you. I hope to god it never happens.

>>	Paradise !!vh7XQhHe/pR Mon Dec 15 12:56:30 2014 No.5864865 >>5864858 I'm done lol. Enjoy, m8.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:57:33 2014 No.5864868 >250+ posts >Paradise why am I not surprised

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:58:21 2014 No.5864872

>>5864859

My tip, ask yourself: "what is wrong with THIS moment" each time you feel that shit descending upon you.

I know this is some New Age crap, but with cynicism being so en vogue in literature ( hon hon hon, le condition humaine has no secrets for me n'est pas ), you need this sort of stuff to keep going.
You need to be an idiot to enjoy life. Intellect is fun, but leads too far down the abyss.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:58:54 2014 No.5864874 Because a social life and famle attention didn't fall into my lap by doing nothing at all like it does for everyone else.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 12:59:35 2014 No.5864875 >>5864868 I'm kind of new here, so I have to ask... He's been doing this for how long?

Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 12:59:35 2014 No.5864876

>>5864855
Although I can see why you'd post that, seeing as it is a basic issue of superiority, how does the dunning kruger effect specifically come into play in what I've said?

>>5864862
>I think my greatest intellectual fear is to end up like you.
And why's that? Terrified of making truly significant distinctions? Maybe you would like something more vapid like Paradise's little maxims?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 13:02:51 2014 No.5864882 >>5864156 This thread thought me how to filter tripfags and this makes it the best thread this month.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 13:10:25 2014 No.5864893
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>the return of D&E
While Paradise being trounced is amusing, and I hadn't noticed that D&E has still been posting by looking at the archive, I'm conflicted.

ETA to yet another of D&E's tripcodes are hacked? You are on your what 5th I guess I'd guess without looking?

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 13:12:18 2014 No.5864899
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>>5864893
Though, given that post's content in which D&E suggests Paradise to troll as well years before he arrived is a bit amusing as well.

Paradise and D&E are similar in ways, indeed.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 13:21:24 2014 No.5864919 >>5864875 Paradise!!vh7XQhHe/pR Sat Nov 15 03:34:07 2014 2542 Since November 2014 and has posted 2,542 times since then. At least under that tripcode anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 13:24:33 2014 No.5864925 File: 1.82 MB, 800x4278, 1307388646758.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5864919 D&E has 20,000+ posts though.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 13:25:48 2014 No.5864928

>>5864156
>out meeting people
I'm socially anxious as fuck and most people are boring (at least to me).
>having fun
Not for me. I find reading way more fun.
>getting new experiences
What new experiences?
It's just the same partying, fucking and talking ad infinitum.
>having sex?
Well, you got me there. But, jerking it once a week is enough for me, so I'm not that motivated by the vagina jew :)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 13:29:16 2014 No.5864940 File: 88 KB, 661x716, 1302494411657.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Amen. /thread

Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 13:38:09 2014 No.5864966
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Seeing as people are bitching about tripfags, let's go over Paradise's thorough analysis of the problem in pic related.

>doesn't have the balls to be an individual themselves
Search the archiver under my name for "responsibility", I say effectively the same thing, only better and more entertainingly, four fucking years ago.

>being an individual adds a sort of realness to what I'm saying
It certainly doesn't add any clarity to what he's saying, notice the fuzzy terminology, "realness", and that I explain all of this perfectly well in unambiguous terms in posts I made that I will screencap in a minute.

>It varies from person to person, anon. Generally, I'd say the tripfag is close to the inverse of you, just braving the world as their own entity, hoping to survive - they're conquering their individuality in embracing it basically, where you're cowering in obscurity. [...] You're a bitch, anon, begrudging those who aren't.
Notice I already more or less made this point years ago. But also notice the total emphasis he places on himself as an individual in all of this, "braving the world as their own entity", "taking on the world, daring to be an individual", etc etc. It's all a little myopically self-obsessed and narcissistic, me against you, unsurprisingly in keeping with his total rejection of outside thought.

1/2

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Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 13:44:01 2014 No.5864987
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>>5864966
And on the other hand, look how well and comprehensively I address the same issue, with much more clarity and common sense. Look at how open and embracing I am of the community and other people, the recognition precisely of having to go BEYOND the individual in order for meaningful exchange to occur. With Paradise it's all about him and his own dumb shit he wants to force on other people, you'll notice I don't say anything about myself in these posts, because my concern is with the subject itself and other people, which is why I am here, to interact with other people, not my own dumb boring self.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 13:45:59 2014 No.5864995 >>5864966 >>5864987 Man nobody gives a fuck about this, Parasite least of all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 13:46:30 2014 No.5864998 File: 22 KB, 618x134, Word play.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5864987

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 13:47:45 2014 No.5865003 some people learn from experiences they fuck up some people learn from experiences they miss

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 13:50:01 2014 No.5865012 File: 35 KB, 453x604, meh.ro5409.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5864156 Why not do it all?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 13:50:50 2014 No.5865015 >tfw use reading as a crutch because no friends

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 13:51:51 2014 No.5865017 tfw i'll never be as pathetic as a unknowledgeable teenager using a tripcode in a burmese claymation web forum

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 13:56:27 2014 No.5865032 Don't do anything to impress other people.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 13:56:27 2014 No.5865033 File: 44 KB, 700x576, 1313956524223.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5865017 It's a good feel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 13:58:22 2014 No.5865041 >>5865032 Other people are the only thing that matters in life though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 14:05:56 2014 No.5865059 >>5864420 you are wrong, they appeal to normal humans that can involve themselves in life if you can't get involved into things, guess what, you are the autismo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 14:07:29 2014 No.5865066 why is anon so threatened by tripfags?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 14:07:43 2014 No.5865067 File: 9 KB, 230x202, 1410353655187.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5864467 >gets proud of shitposting

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 14:09:49 2014 No.5865071 What if is Paradise is simply a form of elaborate trolling by D&E?

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Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 14:12:43 2014 No.5865084

> I've spent time with every sort of person I've managed to lay my hands on - sports, cars, downhill biking, hiking, drugs, gambling, being a fucking scumbag, being a hipster Americanized nerd (lol), making short films with dudes, electro music enthusiast, etc., etc. Now I want to be a writer or a politician or something :3
Ah, I suspect this is the problem. There's two sides of this particular coin: the basement dweller who has never experienced life but thinks he can somehow explain all of it if he reads enough theory, such that experience becomes superfluous, probably a negative form of the ascetic. Then there's the cosmopolitan or dilettante such as Paradise who thinks he understands the world on a fundamentally "realer" level because he's experienced it in various ways and forms.

And of course, it's generally better to be like Paradise in this respect, a development of various perspectives and oneself through exposure to more and more experiences is necessary for a fuller appreciation of the world on any level, even the most basic. But ultimately one is just as misguided as the basement dweller to think that one can achieve a truly nuanced and philosophical world on the back of experience alone. Experience has to be schematized into a whole, and the schemata themselves afterwards continually reshaped by schematized experience as in a sort of adaptive feedback loop, if it is ultimately to be anything more than material for folk wisdom or entertaining memoirs. You simply can't develop that whole by yourself without studying tradition, at least to any significant degree.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 14:18:31 2014 No.5865099

>>5865084
Ah, I suspect this is the problem. There's two sides of this particular coin: D&E who has never experienced life but thinks he can somehow explain all of it if he reads enough theory, such that experience becomes superfluous, probably a negative form of the ascetic.

Then there's the cosmopolitan or dilettante such as Paradise who thinks he understands the world on a fundamentally "realer" level because he's experienced it in various ways and forms.

And of course, it's generally better to be like Paradise than D&E in this respect, a development of various perspectives and oneself through exposure to more and more experiences is necessary for a fuller appreciation of the world on any level, even the most basic.

But ultimately one is just as misguided as D&E to think that one can achieve a truly nuanced and philosophical world on the back of experience alone. Experience has to be schematized into a whole, and the schemata themselves afterwards continually reshaped by schematized experience as in a sort of adaptive feedback loop, if it is ultimately to be anything more than material for folk wisdom or entertaining memoirs. One simply cannot develop that whole in their lonesome without studying tradition, at least to any significant degree.

TL;DR: To be best you can can be, be a hybrid of D&E and Paradise.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 14:22:46 2014 No.5865113

>roommate brings over a few friends to our apartment
>one girl learns that I was an English major
>she was too
>starts gushing about a certain sentence in Mrs. Dalloway
>"Oh, I have that book. You should show me"
>end up fucking her

Implying you can't use your reading to get sex

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>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 14:27:04 2014 No.5865123 >>5865099 >TL;DR: To be best you can can be, be a hybrid of D&E and Paradise. this thread is so circlejerk it's fucking sickening grow some fucking balls you cult of personality cuckold

>>	Tea Princess !.Z79GgH3UI Mon Dec 15 14:28:46 2014 No.5865128 Hey guys what are you doi-

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 14:29:04 2014 No.5865129 File: 546 KB, 1448x2436, 1306193152051.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5865123

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 14:30:20 2014 No.5865133 >>5865123 This is how /lit/ used to ALWAYS be.

>>	None !.....e.f6. Mon Dec 15 14:31:40 2014 No.5865139 >>5865128 Kyonko pls.

>>	kitty !kitty/EnNg Mon Dec 15 14:32:19 2014 No.5865142 >>5865128 princess noori?

>>	K.M !/////kdotM Mon Dec 15 14:34:32 2014 No.5865151 >>5865142 If you look at archive, you'd see that's simply silly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 14:35:58 2014 No.5865155 I would post as Bothersome !!eGkiP4WrjdR but I forgot what I used.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 14:36:19 2014 No.5865157

People that have sex are disgusting. We all understand this as children, it's just that some of us get desensitized to it and begin to revel in the filth.

I am proud that I have still retained some level of disgust. The physical act of sex doesn't disgust me anymore (I've gone through what they call "puberty"), but the idea of "casual sex" and reducing people to a sex-toy still disgusts me. I think this is a mark of superiority. Generally, the hallmark of an aristocrats / patrician is the level of disdain and contempt he has for other people (although it can't be an emotional contempt, only an aloof and disinterested one).

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 14:37:51 2014 No.5865161 >>5864156 that's how you end up having a shitty life from the late 30's on. I like to go out and shit, but I don't make it a priority.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 14:40:19 2014 No.5865166

The people I meet in books are more interesting than the people I meet in real life.

The fun I have with books is more genuine than the fun I have in real life.

The experiences I have in books are more authentic than the experiences I have in real life.

The sex I have in my dreams is more pleasurable than I any I could experience in real life.

Real life is the domain of plebeians. Patricians live apart from humanity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 14:41:33 2014 No.5865169 >>5865166 You could become more patrician by not posting on 4chan anymore then.

>>	Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 14:43:24 2014 No.5865175 >Bothersome Not bothersome enough to ever get rid of me, eh faggot?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 14:47:08 2014 No.5865189 >>5865175 It can't be helped.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 14:50:25 2014 No.5865201 >>5865113 >life is this easy for some people >they just get sex nad have people around them just like that Sometimes I wonder if doing anything is useless and that there lies a curse upon some people from the get-go

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 14:52:42 2014 No.5865210

>>5865166
cont.

The only time I have ever been truly tempted to join real life is when I read the Gospels and began to develop hope in God and in Redemption. Then and only then was I prepared to join in real life under the stipulation that it was aiming towards some worthy goal.

However, the goals of most people in real life include: conquering the world, ruling the world, being a hero, being famous, inventing something, becoming a renowned intellectual, being elected as a State representative, running a successful business, making the world a better place to live in, relieving people from poverty, liberating the working class, attaining a high degree of athleticism and/or education, getting a good job, getting a promotion, getting more wealth, buying a home, starting a family, buying a car, buying nice clothes, getting to level 100 on an RPG, making people laugh at your jokes, giving people the impression that your brave or clever, etc., etc., etc.

None of these lives are worth participating in. I would rather kill a dragon in a video game than bothering to kill a real dragon. In my opinion there is just as much glory in winning at a video game than being a great military general and winning a battle. My ideal poet is a poet that writes the most beautiful verse that has ever been written and then burns it.

How can I put this . . . Shakespeare was right, the world is a stage. It's a lot of posturing and reciting pompous phrases learned by memory. It's vulgar and wearying. The stage that I have in my dreams is every bit as real as the stage that is the world . . . they are both illusions. The world is run by politicians and artists who create the great "theater of life"; I am the head politician and supreme artist of my own world.

Only Christianity with its promise to peal away the vanity of the world and "cut to the heart" and destroy all "respect of persons" has ever had any resonance with me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 14:53:49 2014 No.5865213 >>5865175 Are you the real D&E? You're so much more romantic in my memories than you are now. I still hail you as rightful king of /lit/ if you are though. However, I think you've been a very absent ruler for a while now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 14:58:33 2014 No.5865227 >>5865210 whatever floats your boat m8

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 15:00:51 2014 No.5865239

>>5865210
In fact, I think that only a Saint who knows God intimately can ever really be said to participate in "real life". Everyone else is participating in some form of illusion or other.

The world is made up of impressions. The powers that rule this world are those sorcerers able to shape the impressions of others.

The real world exists only in the mind of God and it's strange to me how few people enter therein. I think most people have vague and brief impressions of this higher reality ever now and then but they ignore it and return to their habits.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 15:03:17 2014 No.5865245

Can you imagine a poet who wrote the most beautiful verse there ever was - and he knew it was that beautiful - and was able to overcome the temptation to publish it? To be fully satisfied with just having the muses as your audience and disdaining vulgar humanity . . .
I believe that such a poet has existed. The greatest poets don't appear in the literary canon. The literary canon is comprised of half-wits who gave into the temptation of flattering humanity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 15:05:13 2014 No.5865253 >>5865239 What the fuck are you on about bro

>>	Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 15:08:34 2014 No.5865274 File: 50 KB, 395x401, 1412414774641.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5865210 >>5865239 >>5865245 >it's just like one of my judeo-christian slave moralities!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 15:11:55 2014 No.5865291 >>5865274 are you even the real deep7edgy or are you some lame imposter?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 15:13:01 2014 No.5865298 >>5865213 That can be easily remedied by looking at archive. Harken back to a halcyon age that never was...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 15:15:49 2014 No.5865309 >>5865291 Does it matter?

>>	Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 15:16:59 2014 No.5865317 is the thread in autosage or is everyone including me just saging

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 15:18:08 2014 No.5865322 >>5865317 Both

>>	Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 15:24:38 2014 No.5865347 thanks such a shame they got rid of visible saging

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 15:32:28 2014 No.5865379

>>5865210
>>5865239
>>5865245
This is a typical example of striving for ideals in life, for example a ruler striving for perfect communism, and your ideal being some vision of a spiritually cleansed world or heaven, but good luck with living those illusory visions in your dreams that are just products of dissatisfaction with real life, the one you were born into. Humans are creatures born with an energy surplus, constantly translating that energy into reforming the world, where any ideal means stagnation, which is opposite to the nature of human beings, although something we can endlessly strive for, and hopefully build worlds that seek to resemble those ideals as positively as it is in our reach to do so.

Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 15:53:35 2014 No.5865472

Been going over some of Paradises's posts, such a shame he can't get over the special snowflake syndrome and develop some of these basic insights.

>Drug addiction and video game addiction are essentially equal in a lot of ways, anon. They're both sort of... just giving yourself to the madness, but haphazardly, but with no real drive for it.
Yes, they are equal in the sense that they are forms of narcotizing entertainment or escapism, but there is nothing that really deserves the use of the term 'madness' here, as that sort of behaviour is perfectly rational for many people, systemically speaking it is entirely rational, it is in fact a systemic necessity in order for others to pursue real, authentic desires. Not that the whole thing itself isn't irrational, but as Deleuze says, it makes perfect logical sense within itself. A generality tends toward stasis, and entertainment and drug addiction themselves can be static, entropic processes.

>Sports people are generally the happiest of our bunch, even if there’s a marked sociopathy to it.
"Happiest" is not the accurate term here. The goal of athleticism is not happiness, except insofar as you want to understand happiness as a sort of perpetual Greek agon, although the sociopathy of it is correct, as Freud pointed out.

> I used to be a drug addict – near insane –
This would explain the fixation on fetishism and an inability to appreciate moderation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 15:55:35 2014 No.5865481 >>5865129 tybrax works for bioware, I'm sure of it

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 16:03:58 2014 No.5865530 >>5865379 Are you still here anon? I would like to talk about your interesting post if you are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 16:04:41 2014 No.5865537 >>5864156 for real man, you go outside often? there´s a lot of bullshit out there, i mean if you want to get some "new experiences" by all means go out, but talkning to people an fucking it´s really overrated

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 16:09:07 2014 No.5865553 >>5865530 still here

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 16:11:02 2014 No.5865557

Has anyone tried talking to people in a direct way?
I mean literally just saying your thoughts like a child would without being anxious that you'll offend some one or cause them to think that you are stupid?
For example, telling someone that you like them (romantically or as a friend, like them in any way). I don't mean in a bumbling "confessional" way, a "you know . . . I think you're a great person and I just want to know that I like you a lot and I'm there for you when you need me." Not this imitation of cinema. I mean literally just saying in an innocuous, childlike manner, "I like you, I think you are (beautiful, funny, brave, [insert virtue])".

If someone could train themselves to have no anxiety whatsoever an talk like a fool . . . I mean like Parsifal. Parsifal is the exact character I am looking for here.

This is a project for you people that like to converse with others. Instead of trying to hone your wit and developing a glamorous and attractive "personality", instead destroy every ambition you have in you to impress others and embrace pure innocuous speaking.

This would be beautiful to see. This is why children are so endearing.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 16:15:43 2014 No.5865572

>>5865553
So how do you think one ought to live? Should I abandon all ideals completely and embrace a like of Epicureanism / aethesticism? Just cultivating pleasures?

My little experience with Christianity is that it's more that just an idealism. Humanism is a petty idealism. I think Christianity has the potential of being absolutely true, exactly the thing it professes to be. The thing about Christ is that he had no reason to lie, he had nothing to gain from it. He didn't seek any form of worldly power, he said he would found a Church that would last to the end of time, and here we are 2000 years later and this carpenter from Palestine still has his Church whereas the empires of Pharaoh and Caesar have wasted away completely. Not only that but I have a little bit of experience praying and the experience of that there leads me to believe that even if Christianity is not absolutely true, there is something extraordinary about it.

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 16:25:58 2014 No.5865602

I'm poor, which means that a lot of things in life are locked away from me. The worst thing is that for a while I believed the right wing meme of working harder, which took up all my time, made me miserable and had me neglecting the few boring friends I had. It got me a raise, which in less than a year didn't make much difference anyway because the economy is fucked.

I'd really like to balance between enjoying myself with reading and watching movies and socialising, clubbing, meeting girls and stuff but I don't think the latter is possible anymore. I'm 26 with no friends and trying to meet new people at this age feels impossible. I can't wait to die.

>>	Deep&Edgy !!BfzNblz4cXS Mon Dec 15 16:37:16 2014 No.5865634 22 years old and pretending to be girl on last.fm lol pretty fuckin schizophrenic there brah

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 17:09:27 2014 No.5865738 >>5864184 Me neither, and I live in Florida

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 17:23:22 2014 No.5865783

I think Man has to find himself in life. Most people are neither given any instructive directions on how to do so, nor do they seek to develop themselves on their own, which is where 95% of the biologoical compost of humans comes in. What you're talking about is essentially commiting yourself completely to faith, and if you have the balls to do that, if you find yourself, your limitations and your purpose in life in the idealism of Christianity alone, then that commitment itself is worthy of respect. Otherwise in a wider perspective in its essence faith remains one of the strongest emotions and a natural response of Man's desire in satisfying his constant thriving sensations and striving for more than he already has, a perfect ideal, which is why even non-believers in their last moments before death acquire faith: everything is lost to them, but as long as the emotion of faith is available as a part of their being, it is open to exploitation. You are born with the ability to experience all kinds of emotions as well as the ability to develop your mind, favoring faith in the form of Christianity over everything else is a personal decision one makes, and who's to stop one from doing so. Otherwise what you're doing is just borrowing some principles from Christianity and injecting them into your own idealism, which for a person who understands the concept of faith, the role it plays in the lives of human beings, and doesn't commit to it 100% -- becomes a redundant act.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 17:24:59 2014 No.5865787 >>5865572 >>5865783

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 19:40:28 2014 No.5866427 >>5864193 pls lemme into iceland

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 19:43:08 2014 No.5866434 >>5864243 pls do. use your trips for something good now

Anonymous Mon Dec 15 19:51:00 2014 No.5866472

>>5864287
>There's nothing wrong with spending all your time fucking, clubbing and working, but don't shit on people because they prefer reading analytical philosophy and watching art house films.
I wish this was the case. But no, people are obnoxious, insecure and opinionated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 19:58:49 2014 No.5866496 >>5864175 This feel uwu

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 15 22:15:00 2014 No.5867042 >>5864596 You don't understand couture. Don't even try to talk about it, fucking pseud.

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