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Have you managed to impress anyone with your complex and meaningful writing or superior language yet? Tell stories.

>girl at the bar said I speak strangely

>> No.5849072

>>5849064
>girlfriend says she always tries to use proper grammar because i intimidate her
I felt terrible when she told me that

>> No.5849096

>>5849072
>girlfriend
>felt
/soc/ is that way

>> No.5849105

never happened. i once knew a girl who pretended to want to see what id' written but I never showed her anythign

>> No.5849115

>>5849064
>tfw every poem i've shown people usually resorts in them saying "what does it mean" and / or "it was interesting but I didn't get it"

guess im not destined for this world xD

>> No.5849185

>roommate said I should stop talking "Hochdeutsch" if I want to get laid

I told him to learn proper german or not to talk to me, we haven't talked much since then.

>> No.5849191

>>5849115
The loop awaits, post-ironic comrade

>> No.5849295

>>5849064
The only people I impress are my professors. My usual feedback from peers is "I don't want to have to use a dictionary when reading a piece. Where's YOUR voice? I need something personal to connect to."

I fit so poorly in with contemporary writing and writers. Makes it seem pointless to pursue writing since half of it is supposed to be "networking" with peers. If everyone is looking for "personal" sensualism, and that's not what I offer, it just seems pointless to pursue the actual craft of writing.

>> No.5849306

>>5849295
The majority of contemporary publishing IS networking, but not with your shitfaced retard peers. Network with professors and small journals/magazines and work your way up the ladder.

>> No.5849312

I used "esoteric" in a presentation to a support team when describing how one of our back end systems at work functions. I was called out later for using "overly precise language".

>> No.5849321

>>5849312
>not being called out for being esoteric

>> No.5849322

The line between genius and spergling is a fine one.

>> No.5849344

yes, 1 girl told me i write good.
>mfw it was bc of my texts

>> No.5851479

I'm Mexican.
I work at a law firm while I get my law degree, I am often asked to do "simple" (not official) translations of 20+ page documents, just so the gringo clients can understand what they are signing.

The other day my boss told me to "dumb them down" because these weren't British Lawyers (I live there for a while), these are American rednecks we're dealing with.

So long, my beloved Black's Law Dictionary.

>> No.5851496

>>5849064
>starting a /soc/ thread with computer game's logo
uhh anon

>> No.5851503

>>5851479
My father owned a law firm and would smoke weed in his office. Nobody cared since he bribed the cops (he donated $4k a year to the department as tax write off).

He's probably doing heroin in heaven right now. ;_;

>> No.5851510

>>5851503
God bless.

>> No.5851512

I joined a writer's group and got lots of pussy.
I had to quit the group because I left town, but it was amazing hearing things like 'I don't really understand what you are saying, but your writing is beautiful. I would follow your voice anywhere.' Good times.

>> No.5851558

>>5851512
>>5849115
Stop writing like modernists. Read some Ben Johnson, George Herbert, and Wordsworth.

>> No.5851568

>>5851558
>Stop writing like modernists.

Never

>> No.5851625

>>5851512
>Obvious plebs liked my writing
>so proud
Shiggy.

>> No.5851882

>>5851558
>Ben Johnson
>Johnson

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5851904

>>5849312
>>5849321

>> No.5851924

>>5849064
I actually got my last girlfriend because my cousin asked me an opinion on modern art and I went on this litany about subjectivity and post-modernism. She thought it was hot apparently. I believe her words were "passionate and intelligent"

>> No.5851931

>>5851924
>Things that have never happened and never will.

>> No.5851936

>teacher asks if she can use my final essay as an example for future classes
>different teacher used one of my in-class essays as an example and had students read it aloud in class
>editor of a literary publication asked me to submit a story after I read the first page to him
>same publisher later sent me a letter requesting more submissions

>> No.5851941

>>5851936
>and then I woke up

>> No.5851944

>>5851931
Swear to God it did.
.

>> No.5851951

>>5849185
It's solid advice, if you do want to get laid.

>> No.5851959

>>5849344
jesus christ your texts must be horribly autistic

>> No.5851962

>>5851941
I actually kept the letter. First time I ever submitted something.

>> No.5851983

>>5849072
My girlfriend told me the exact same thing.
>tfw felt really cool and superior to her and from that point on did everything I could to make her feel inferior until she had a nervous breakdown, left school and became an addict
Now I'm with a younger, hotter chick and I'm doing the same thing all over again.

>> No.5851997

Turns out, the girl at the bar can be easily ignore.

>> No.5852462

>>5851962
Listen, Poindexter.
Reading and writing are for fags. You don't want your mommy to know you're a fag, do you?

>> No.5852578

>>5851924
Too bad neither of those translated to the bedroom

>> No.5852609

>>5849064
>Have you managed to impress anyone with your complex and meaningful writing or superior language yet?

No. People do not think overtly intellectual people are impressive in the 2014.

And no I did not say that ironically. Most people are completely oblivious to any topic I'm interested in, and if they even have an objection, it's almost always some completely uneducated remark.

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5852642

Not with language but here's an anecdote.
>okayish pianist in high school
>addicted to playing, but rarely practice properly
>go in practice room at school alone because I'm not gonna bother everyone by playing in the band room
>it's slightly audible from the outside
>qt's come in
>one whispers something in the other' seat
>be beta
>assume she's calling me a nerd or some shit
>other one tells me she said I'd be good at fingering
Mfw patrician hobbies pay off

>> No.5852651

I speak like DFW prose minus the big words

So a grammar raping girl from 1995

>> No.5852689

>>5852642
> playing piano
> patrician
> not daddy-made-me-to-have-a-hobby -tier

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5852703

>girl talks in detail about Rimbaud and german fiction wirters and expects me to say something insightful at some point
I can only make people expect too much of me

>> No.5852724

>>5852703
>sitting at Starbucks (yeah i know) with a friend
>discussing Baudelaire, Byron, and tell him how i found a leather-bound book of Tennyson's complete poems in a thrift shop in town
>7.5/10 qt overhears
>asks if i'm into poetry
>Yes
>oh wow that's great anon! Do you write any?
>Yes
>fantastic! Here's my number, maybe you can give me some advice and we can share poems
>rad
>start talking to her
>we trade poems
>says mine are fantastic, loves the romantic style blah blah
>i read hers
>"post-modern" free-verse
>tell her I despise 95% of free verse and the only people that write free verse and only free verse are lazy children that can't write rhymes or metre and should hardly be considered poets
>never texts me back

I'm a total sperge about poetry and I don't give a fuck, if you write solely free verse you're a filthy fucking philistine and I do not want to associate with you.

>> No.5852764

>>5852724
How do you know she writes only free verse? Why would that be the first thing you bring that up in conversation, on the strength of her having shown you one free verse poem? Why does the quality of her actual poem not even bear mentioning in your greentext? Do you even know what "post-modern" means? Does it mean nothing to you that she took your interest in Baudelaire, Byron and Tennyson as a sign of shared interests?

Contemporary MFA culture is saturated in a widespread revival of interest in craft and form, you probably BTFO your chances of a healthy IRL relationship via wanting to sound cool and elitist like Harold Bloom, better luck and don't be such an ass next time

>> No.5852768

>>5852764
I didn't even read your post so fuck you

>> No.5852774

>>5852724
post your poems faggot

>> No.5852777

>>5852724
>>sitting at Starbucks (yeah i know) with a friend
>>discussing Baudelaire, Byron, and tell him how i found a leather-bound book of Tennyson's complete poems in a thrift shop in town

ishygddt

>> No.5852781

>>5852764

Attention to craft and attention to prosody are two different things. Contemporary MFA culture is more interested in diction, syntax, line breaks, and voice - or kinds of speech, speech acts - than rhyme and meter. What a traditional poet means when they say "form" is very different than what an MFA student means.

IMO he totally did blow his chance to get with somebody who has shared interests. He showed serious gracelessness in his criticism. I've taught people formalist principles and showed them how to apply them to improve their free verse. (How WCW is often secretly writing accentual verse, how to use roughened iambs....)

>> No.5852806

>>5852781
True, but your description of contemporary MFA culture reads kind of like how Robert Christgau described it in1967 (http://robertchristgau.com/xg/music/lyrics-che.php).). Maybe it's different in the US, but a lot of people in the creative writing programs where I'm from (Canadia) are now interested in playing with capital-F Form - bringing back sonnets, ghazals, villanelles, etc. and doing new things with them.

>> No.5852829

>>5852806

I think the culture is different. It's pretty true if you keep an eye on the big American literary magazines and go to literary events like I do. There is rhyme and meter now, we're getting a resurgence too, but it's still mostly free verse of various stripes, and there are rampantly anti-formalist groups like the LANGUAGE remnants, the slam/spoken word poets that are fairly popular.

Keep in mind most people define out great poet as Whitman.

>> No.5852834

>>5852829
I'm curious - who would you define as our great poet if not the Whit-dog

>> No.5852837

No because I have a smart girlfriend and smart friends who read, have had a non-shit education and understand complicated words.

Seriously, what's with everyone on /lit/ having a dumb entourage?

>> No.5852843

>>5852834
Whitman, Dickinson, and Eliot, if you count him, are certainly international talents.

>> No.5852911

>>5852837

sry bro it's time to wake up now

>> No.5852913

>>5852911
what

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5852922

yes. most friends do not read. people think i'm trying to sound smart.
>mfw it's because they're stupid

>> No.5852932

I write poems for girls, expecting sex as a reward.

It works surprisingly well.

>> No.5852958

>>5852578
>none of these things translate to bedroom

Story time:

>be with chick
>on bed, both naked
>both kinky, start scratching her back
>figure, it's a one night thing, why not
>she's just scratched my back, so I make a joke about 'you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours'
>ask if she knows where that comes from
>nope
>start telling Roman emperor story involving slaves
>tell her 'imagine being the slave'
>tell her a story about being slave
>after, get her up to turn her head and look at her back
>she sits back down, turns to me, tells me she's never felt like that before
>doesn't think she could with anyone else
>later on tells me the way I talk is what she's attracted to
>solid 9/10
>I be 6, maybe 7
>feel good

>> No.5852975

>>5852958
(Same guy) moral of this story is, language can help. Learning to turn your thoughts into words is the first step, learning to turn words into thoughts is the next. Once you can do that, you can seduce smart girls no problem.

>> No.5852978

>>5852958
>scratching one's back is kinky
My poor, poor man. Are you American by any chance?

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>tfw can't help screeching "DILETTANTE! DILETTANTE! DILETTANTE!" whenever a girl tells me she likes some pleb author

>> No.5852993

>>5852978
Why do you think I showed it to her afterwards? Think it's kinky when blood's running down the back. I bite my nails, so they're rough.

>> No.5852996

>>5849312
I don't know the context you used esoteric in and you may have had a good reason to use it, although I can see how it's a bit mystifying when used in a professional work environment.

But what is stupid in your situation is how whoever said esoteric was 'overly precise' made a rather baffling statement. If anything, esoteric is deliberately *imprecise* as it often describes concepts or information that is difficult to understand or only understood by a small cadre of people.

Precision is undeniably a good thing. The more the better in your scenario. A serious issue in public and private discourse these days is that people are careless about their use of language and are imprecise.

>> No.5853009

>>5849064
I've impressed japanese people by being able to speak japanese if that counts

>> No.5853010

>>5852993
I get (and give) scars from sex all the time. It's simply a bit rough, not kinky.

>> No.5853015

>>5853010
Fair enough, depending on your definition of kinky that might not fit. We both definitely are-other stories for other times-but you can argue that's not kink.

>> No.5853021

>>5853015
>other stories for other times
Now I'm going to need details. /lit/ has always been known for its kinkiness, it's okay if you tell.

>> No.5853023

>>5853009
I hear it's pretty common for Japanese people to be surprised when the gaijin speaks their language.

>> No.5853035

>>5853023
thats because 95% of white people in Japan are tourist assholes

>> No.5853045

>>5853021
Honestly the other stories aren't really interesting.
Whips, tying up, names-sir and slut, plus the normal variations, choking, slapping. She's kinda knew, I'm starting her off slow. I've done it a few times. Nothing extremely kinky with us-I've done that too far before (one time involving a lot of coke and a fucking iron springs to mind) and want to go more gentle now.

>> No.5853046

>>5853045
*new

>> No.5853050

>>5853045
Do you ever switch roles? That's what I usually do, being all the time on top or bottom gets boring after a while.

>> No.5853053

>>5853050
I fit every part of the spectrum bar sub. Happy to dom, happy to be a masochist, happy to be a sadist, but subbing isn't for me. Bad memories, partly. And I hate being tied up. So what kind of stuff do you go in for?

>> No.5853086

>>5853053
Standard stuff like what you've described, hair pulling, tying up, etc. minus the whips because I never bothered to actually enter a sex shop and buy one, we usually make do with what we have at hand. I don't go for name calling though, probably because we never embody a single role for too long. Lots of edgeing, especially when she's on her period. Recording her and then fucking her while she watches herself being fucked on tape. I'm also training her for footjobs, because...well, I like her feet. I'm also able to make her queef at will, I don't care much this seems to turns her on.

>> No.5853360

I once full-on waifu obsessed over a girl at work until I worked out how fucking thick she is

>tfw I literally could not fantasise over her

>> No.5853384

>>5852913
he's envious

>> No.5853537

>>5851959
haha, they were't really. it was more or less about my sentence structure? idk, it was really random. i text just like i post here

>> No.5853553

>>5853537
tbh i'd probably make a point of not sleeping with you

going off how you write, anyway

>> No.5853614

>>5849344
>yes, 1 girl told me i write good.
>I write good.
>good
I don't think you write very well.

>> No.5853638

Several girls have liked my poems and short stories.

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I don't know about impress, i use worlds that people tend to not understand and get vacant looks.

My family has a fairly robust vocabulary, so that's how i learned to talk. I don't think it's a thing to be proud of, it makes you stand out and not always in a good way.

>> No.5853721

>>5849064
I was at a party last weekend, doing what I do best; getting tipsy and exuberantly talking to everyone. A few of the girls there happened to be around me often when I had my high points in speech.

The first one was sitting on a couch, posing that relaxed half sit, half lay down with her feet rested on the cushion. I was squat-kneeling on up against the armrest, talking about something I can't remember. She was completely engaged in whatever it was. In any case, she lets in at a pause "I love listening to you talk". At this, I just smirked and continued on.

The second girl and I, later that night, were on the couch, knees perpendicular and touching. Again, I was spieling about something; this time to quite a few people around the couch area. As I was making my eye contact rounds, I noticed a similar entranced look on this girls face. Intermittently, she would grab my forearm as she made her input. Long story short, about two-thirds into whatever I was talking about, she remarked " I could listen to you talk forever".

I really wish I could remember what it was I was saying. I know they were passionate topics for me.

>> No.5853725

>>5853721
Did you bang them?

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>>5851983
haha what a douche. keep the god's work anon.

>> No.5853740

>>5853721
The first girl and I ended up falling asleep on the same couch. I woke up to us cuddling, fully clothed, in the morning. It is very unlikely we had sex and got dressed afterwards.

I really liked the second one though. She had to leave well before the end of the night. I think she had finals or something.

Girl one did mention immediately upon meeting her "wow you're so muscular".
I can't believe I didn't have sex with her.

>> No.5853741

>>5853740
That was to you.
>>5853725
I suck at 4chan.

>> No.5853742

>>5852996
Yup, everything that this anon said. This cancels out the 'precision' of that anon though. Couldn't even use esoteric right. Dumbfuck.

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>>5852724
>if you write solely free verse you're a filthy fucking philistine and I do not want to associate with you.
I'd do the same thing if I met a girl who wrote YA literature.

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5853751

>People always assume you're older than you are because you enunciate words properly.

>> No.5853807

>>5852724
You sound like an angry person. Maybe at that time, she only wanted to write free verse. Maybe she is trying it out. Good job, you turned her off of it.

>> No.5853817

>>5853807
Good

>> No.5853824

>>5852724
Good call.

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>>5852724
SLOOT BTFO

>> No.5853832

>>5853817
good

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>>5852777
>>5853807
Behold the SJWs.

>> No.5853860 [DELETED] 

>>5849064
I've been told I make good analogies. Like the other day I compared a condom to a fire blanket and everyone was like wow

>> No.5853887

>>5853856
Nigga, I'm believer in giving people a chance. This guy didn't. I'm telling him what I think of that. Nigga.

>> No.5853910

I refuse to believe /lit/ is able to speak with any degree of remarkable intelligence in public because it should show up in their writing too.

>> No.5853943

>>5853721
Pretty even mix of autism and grace you got going on there. I like it.

>> No.5853945

>>5853807
Pleb alert, /lit/.

>> No.5853966

>>5853553
you're right. she was probably just a pleb that said those things bc she wanted me d.
>mfw i gave myself to a harlot under the false premises of her wanting me for my writing and not my d

>> No.5853980

>>5849295
>I fit so poorly in with contemporary writing and writers

i feel you man. i attended an MFA program and i definitely was out of place among my peers there (writing-wise, not socially. we all very much got along). there was one other guy who maybe was on the same page as i, but he writes for guernica now and doesn't do fiction anymore.

meanwhile our peers were writing the most tiresome, sentimental pap. two of them have so far landed big-deal (bidding war and everything) book deals. one of them has a book coming out on bloomsbury next year. a big name is even doing the artwork. the book is literally just a memoir with an additional fictional character and story grafted onto it. it's competent but fucking cloying and boring.

i'm just out of style, i guess.

>> No.5853988

>>5853614
her words man. i wasn't about to be an autist and correct her lack of grammatical understanding.

>> No.5853995

>>5853943
Transposing my thoughts on paper, whether it be of trees or 0s and 1s, has never been a strong point for me.

I can definitely see the autism in my posts. I can't see it in this post yet, but I will in a few seconds.

>> No.5853999

>using meme words makes me a better writer

ayy lmao

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5854003

All my friends think I'm incredible when I tell them I'm going to be the greatest writer of this age

Those I've shown my writing to have not ceased to think this, so I must be pretty good

But then of course I am

>> No.5854017

>>5854003
You're also a teenager so you're garbage but you don't realize it yet

>> No.5854036

>>5854017
Nope, I'm just bretty gud overall.

The 'greatest writer' thing is something I tell myself and others. It serves two purposes. One, it makes me stand out, so it serves as a bit of personal marketing. Two, it gives me something to aspire toward; it serves as a constant reminder of my incessant need to keep improving.

>> No.5854042 [DELETED] 

>>5854036
You're not writing for artistic purposes.

You're writing to fuel your ego.

Seems like you're a pleb.

>> No.5854048

>>5854042
I merely recognize that you've got to sell yourself this day and age, as a writer, if you don't want to die drunk and alone in a gutter. It's like what they were talking about above, networking and such. You've got to have an angle. Nobody wants to end up like Kafka or Poe.

>> No.5854055

>>5854048
>merely

dropped

>> No.5854064

>>5854055
That was a sucka move though

>> No.5854065

>>5854048
Wow you're like a poor Courbet imitation.

>> No.5854072

>>5854003
>greatest writer of this age
>ceased to think
>my incessant
>I merely recognize

jesus...the way you write betrays how your horrible ego is what's really running the show here. you're a fraud.

>> No.5854078

>>5854036
>It serves two purposes
>... it serves as ...
>... it serves as ...

dropped

>> No.5854079

>>5854072
>>5854055

great minds think alike. funny how you can sometimes tell how how full of shit someone is by the language they use. stop putting on airs, son. you're heading for a crash.

>> No.5854089

During high school I had a relatively advanced vocabulary compared to the rest of my peers. People told me I was being condescending and that I made them feel stupid.

I didn't even read back then...

>> No.5854093

>>5854089

u prolly read the internet a lot

>> No.5854099

>>5854048
Poe had a shitty end but he'll be remembered longer than 99% of other humans.

I'd say it's worth it.

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>>5854079
Oh, fuck off.

What good has your purity of artistic pursuit done you? You probably say it makes YOU happy, but does it really? Art is at its best when it's shared, when others can pursue the meaning in a work and find greater purpose in it.

All great artists want to spread their art around. Even Kafka- Borges makes a great point about this in an interview he did with The Paris Review back in 1966. Borges makes the excellent point that Kafka told Brod to burn his work after he died, but he MUST have known Brod would do no such thing. If Kafka REALLY wanted his work destroyed, he would have done it himself. Even Kafka- and Vergil, and Emily Dickinson- cherished the thought of achieving glory. It is the goal of all writers to live forever.

>> No.5854134

>>5854120
>name-dropping popular authors that everyone has heard of to pad my non-existent argument: the post

>> No.5854135

>>5854120
>All great artists want to spread their art around.

lost it

>> No.5854140

>>5854134
It's not an argument, more an artist's statement. I strive to create beautiful writing, to unite Form and Content into a whole that speaks of Absolute Truth. But it's no good if nobody else sees it. So I'll hustle as much as I have to, and self-promote to the fullest extent, to make sure it's seen, because making other people happy through my writing makes ME happy.

>> No.5854147

>>5854120

yeah except i wasn't critiquing your goals, i was accusing you of being an egotistical child with an inflated opinion of yourself.

if you want to be a writer you should learn how to parse a criticism, too.

>> No.5854150

>>5854120
>achieving glory [...] It is the goal of all writers to live forever.

How's puberty?

>> No.5854152

>>5854140
you seem kinda clueless

>> No.5854155

>>5854140

i really really really want to read this blowhard's writing.

>> No.5854160

>>5854140
>artist's statement:
>i want people to see my art

wow ok

>> No.5854162

>>5854155

can you imagine how bloviated and self important it is? is if this is the way he writes in casual conversation can you imagine what it's like when he really gets his Art Voice all worked up?

>> No.5854167

>>5853086
I leave this thread for just a couple hours and it turns into this... Wtf /lit/

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>>5854162

>> No.5854176

>>5854003

i recognize this guy from other threads. he is always going on about how Great He Is and how Great He Is Going To Be

pleas please post a link to your work, anon. i could use some schadenfreude

>> No.5854182

>>5854003
You're like supermang.

>> No.5854196

>>5853887
Nigga, you sound like a fuccboi who fucks with basic bitches. Get your plain bitch ass back to tumblr.

But yeah you're right. It's just funny to see hoes get BTFO instead of the same old opposite happening. Shame on you if you give the dick to every pussy you meet. I don't. Let them experience desert from thirst.

>> No.5854202

I mostly avoid "impressive" shit. Why use big words when a few small ones will do? I even make basic grammar errors because I think people who use "whom" and "well" are annoying.

The closest thing I do to "impressing" people is occasionally correcting them when their own big words and fancy references are wrong. And tending to be familiar with every writer they bring up.

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5854220

>>5854120
haha, you are so debased

to live forever as meme in the educational cycle, as metonymy among plebs for a book, a time period, or worse their notion of literature or "thought" in general

"All I want is to live forever, no matter what debasement of essence that form my take, all that matters is that my existence is recognized in the most permanent way possible by that which I perceive as being able to bestow reality -- which is really anyone, cause I toats live for the attention."
- Sibyl the obnoxious tween

"I want to die."
- Sibyl the writer/artist

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5854257

>wanting ever to impress anyone at all

>> No.5854272

>>5853980
Well, if writers of our day are going to be recorded, it's not going to be the papmongers, so there's that at least. Plus, I hear that there's a bubbling of return to old form. Could be on the cusp of a new paradigm shift. Things have been moving in a similar direction for a while now, so it's possible.

>> No.5854281

>>5854196
I'm sorry. I was just shitposting.

>> No.5854316

>>5849312
>>5852996
>>5853742


>not getting the fucking joke. when autism goes /psuedo/

Anon used "esoteric" to describe how a backend system functions, which is basically a way of saying, "I have no fucking clue, but we coded some shit and it works."

Then some other guy with a sense of humor picked up on it and was being sarcastic, and accused anon of describing the function too in depth, or using technical jargon that would go over the heads of most people in the meeting. The truth is that neither of them knows how that shit works lol.

In reality, the guy who called you out is a bro and you should go make friends with him. Either that, or you really did use "esoteric" incorrectly.

>> No.5854329

>>5851558
>wordsworth
0_0

>> No.5854340

>>5849185
>,
>talking
You're certainly not having any trouble avoiding High English.

>> No.5854344

>>5854329
What's wrong with Wordsworth?

>> No.5854349

People who have conversations with real-world people about poetry - how old are you?

>> No.5854369

I impressed a woman in my master's program because I said the word "adequate" in a sentence. People have really fucking low standards when it comes to language these days. Granted we're economics students, but still.

>> No.5854370

>>5854344
All empty, soulless, dime store-spiritual tripe.

>> No.5854375

>>5854369
>People have really fucking low standards when it comes to language these days
Correction: People have really fucking low standards when it comes to *men these days

>> No.5854378

>>5854349

a grownup

>> No.5854383

>>5854378
Evidently not.

>> No.5854389

I have impressed girls with pseudo-intellectual bullshit before. They were either dumb or fellow pseudo-intellectuals, either way they were amazed by my nothing trash words.

>> No.5854396

I got invited to a secret, orgiastic cultural club and joined.

>> No.5854397

>>5854396
No, you didn't.

>> No.5854414

>>5854397
; D if you say so

>> No.5854416

>Talking to someone about philosophy
>Everything they say starts with "X Philosopher said..."
>Going through strengths and weaknesses of various modes of thought
>Barely read any philosophy in my life
>After discussing a while
>"Wow Anon, you must be pretty well read!"

I'm literally flabbergasted at people. Opinions are things you learn, like historical dates. You memorize "critical thinking". People can't reason through anything they haven't read about. I don't understand. Why to people have to constantly invoke philosophers in discussions of philosophy.

Despite how you feel about 4chan, at least people seem to get to their opinions on their own. Maybe people post idiotic drivel at times, but that's a million times better than talking points. Holy shit.

>> No.5854579

>>5853721
i dont think this happened.

>> No.5855347

>>5854416
What are some good books on 'critical thinking'

>> No.5855383

>>5854340
kek

>> No.5855391

Two of my bosses have said they think I'm making fun of them because of the language I use

>tfw I'm just talking :(

>> No.5855490

>>5853721

>1066+1048
>knees perpendicular

>> No.5855498

>>5854416
>Why to people have to constantly invoke philosophers in discussions of philosophy.
Because philosophy involves responding to the claims of other philosophers. Your opinions might not be wrong but they probably aren't genuinely philosophical.

>> No.5855547

>>5849064
People tend to pay more attention to their grammar while talking to me.

Also, I often eavesdrop on my little tales and quirky thought experiments spreading in the college hallways.

>> No.5855570

>>5855547
Go to bed Fariña

>> No.5855579

>>5855570
Fariña was a friend of Pinecone's, right?

Care to explain the reference?

>> No.5855582

>>5855579
>Also, I often eavesdrop on my little tales and quirky thought experiments spreading in the college hallways.

A character in Fariña's novel has a habit of telling tales and doing quirky thought experiments and is also attending a university

>> No.5855609

>>5855490

>1066+1048

Dyscalculics pls go.

>> No.5855614

A woman printed out a poem of mine and hung it on the wall in her apartment.

>> No.5855699

>>5855614
Yeah, my mom used to nail my drawings aswell.

>> No.5855702

>>5855699
lolllllll

>> No.5855710

>>5849064
yes, but only when it's not about flirting.
>friend forgot to read book
>should discuss it today in class
>i talk about the book during lunch
>he gets best grade

>> No.5855714

>>5855699
Don't worry, nothing you say can hurt me as much as she did.

>> No.5855724

An anonymous pseudo-publication of my short stories was dubbed "neo-surrealism" by some irrelevant people

>> No.5855756

>>5854579
If I was going to make something up, it would have involved intercourse.

At least, I hope it would. If I couldn't even pretend to get laid, what hope do I have for that event to come to pass?

Do you get what I'm saying, anon?

>> No.5855762

>>5855714
Care to share the story?

>> No.5855792

>>5855609

>you weren't trolled

>> No.5855807

Doesn't anyone else cringe at the thought of people irl knowing about your writing? It scares the shit out of me. If people know I write then they will want to read it, and I will have to tell them to fuck off. Everytime a friend sees me writing in an out of the way public place, with high passing traffic nearby, I have to lie and say that I am writing letters to my grandmother. Thankfully all my friends are soo self indulgent that they have forgotten that both my grandmothers are dead. The day they remember, or I slip up and remind them, is going to be awkward. Most of the time I just wish i was back at university. Homework was such a simple, never fail, never cross examined justification for being curled up over a notebook with a ice cold cup of coffee, and a forgotten cigarette that is burning itself out easily. I mean why would you come here to be freely anonymous if you want people to know you write? Wouldn't reddit, or facebook be a better forum to promote yourself? Or do people who come here as self promoting writers come here because they want to tell lies that can't be contradicted?

>> No.5855810

>>5855807
You goddamn romantic.

>> No.5855818

>>5855810
Love me as I love you

>> No.5855839

>>5855762
Eh, it is nothing special.
>meet girl
>she is great: smart, hot, cute, self-aware, interested in literature
>one day while we are watching a movie with other friends she just randomly grabs my hand and presses it on her breast
>I am too baffled too really do anything
>I ask her about it a day later
>she says it was just random and for fun
>a little later, she invites me to her apartment after we visit a literary circle (where she notices my talent)
>I read her some poems of mine, she loves them all
>I don't know when it happened, but at one point we started to kiss each other every now and again
>she says though she does not want a relationship and hopes I understand that
>I tell her (out of sheer arrogance and ignorance, when I think about it today) that I do not want a relationship either, because what are those good for anyway?
>we meet often, spend like 3 days a week at her place, we kiss, we cuddle, we write, we sleep in the same bed
>at one point she even wanted to sleep with me, but it didn't happen, I guess I was just too nervous
>needless to day, I am in love for the first time in my life
>and I think I still am
>what a shame though that she suddenly started to meet her back then soon-to-be former ex boyfriend again

She broke my heart, I guess. And she feels terrible about it all to this day. We still meet sometimes, because even if she does not love me, I mean a lot to her. And I think I am over it anyway, as best as I could ever be. I'm not sure if that says much.

>> No.5855840

>>5855807
I feel the exact same way. Never tell anyone I write. I'm trying to get past it a bit though, owning up to your ambition and shit.

I just can't get past the thought of eventually not making it, and then always being the guy who failed at becoming a writer. Then again, who gives a shit, at least you made an honest attempt.

>> No.5855849

>>5855839
What the fuck dude, you were pretty much into each other
what happened to the ages old method of getting inebriated together and letting things run their course
do you live in a shithole where people can't drink under 21

>> No.5855863

>>5855756
no, you'd make up whatever is most flattering to your conception of yourself. for most people that ends in sex. but you've so idealized your pontificating charisma - while also recognizing the actuality is nowhere near the fantasy - that yours is rooted in another type of domination.

>> No.5855868

>>5855849
Dunno, we rarely drank together because it just never occured to us.

I agree that a lot of stuff went wrong, and some of it was my fault - or could have worked better if I would have been more experienced. I still look back at the time as one of the happiest in my life though.

Anyway, let's not turn this thread into /r9k/ by talking about the borderline depression I had the months after it. Also, in Germany you can drink at the age of 16.

>> No.5855875

>>5855849
>what happened to the ages old method of getting inebriated together and letting things run their course
>tfw met a virgin who doesn't drink
I feel inebriated just being around her. She's weird.

>> No.5855901

>>5855840
> then always being the guy who failed at becoming a writer
What are you talking about? Are they going to write that as your epitaph? 'Here lies a writer like his words - dead. LOL RIP FAGGOT'

It is not like being a writer is like running a race. Who cares about making it. What I am scared about is their opinion, and not being clear my head of it when I sit down to write.

>> No.5855904

>>5855863
You're the type of person who finds a completely realistic event dramatized, it appears. It's a bit sad that my Saturday was so improbable to you. I had a good night and this thread called or it to be shared.

Since you seem to think you know me so well, maybe you're projecting your own self realization?

Just out of curiosity, what about anything I detailed struck you as fictitious? I want to understand.

>> No.5855917

The Rimbaud line about your sonnets "making her laugh," ring true to me, even not at seventeen.

>> No.5855919

>>5854416
>go to undergrad philosophy club meeting at my university
>discussion ensues, etc.
>freshman philosophy major pipes up "this sounds like what philosopher x said on..."
>opinion discarded

It was even funnier when he wasn't able to explain what he actually meant to say by quoting the person

>> No.5856184

>>5852578
Yeah. That's accurate.

>> No.5856634

>>5849072
Same

>> No.5856687

>>5855919
I'm a philosophy student, and I hate this as well. It would be wise avoid it in class, because as far as I know, teachers hate it too.

In every fucking lecture about a philosopher, there's always (ALWAYS) someone who will say "Isn't that what X said?"; teachers never spend a lot of attentions to students who ask this kind of questions and they're used to it, but it's annoying for the rest of us.

The funny thing is that people who use more quotes about different philosophers in tests, do worse than people who don't.


Plus, another annoying this every teacher hate about philosophy students: their use of language. Postmodern french philosophers had a huge influence here, and a lot of people believe that "the darker the better" is the thumb-rule for writing philosophy. Most teachers usually ask for clarity in the answer for tests, this doesn't stop people to use their erudite vernacular to impress them.

>> No.5856738

>>5854383

you think grown adults shouldn't talk about poetry? how old are you? and what are we talk about? football?

>> No.5856753

>>5856738
>what are we talk about?
Grammar

>> No.5856758

>>5855582

that sort behavior is very much not exclusive to a fucking farina novel. but you'd have to be a living, breathing person in the world to know that, and not an unsocialized basement dweller.

>> No.5856764

>>5856753
>typo

what are we SUPPOSED to talk about?

>> No.5857258

I speak English as a foreign language and every now and then people compliment me for sounding like a native English speaker. It gets a bit awkward when a drunk old man hands you a free beer for speaking with a "Manchester accent". I don't even know what that is.

This sounds angsty but nowadays the compliments just remind me I'll never reach the level of a real native speaker. That gets me down a little.

>> No.5857959

>>5852837

If you don't realize most people around you are very dumb, you are probably dumb yourself.

>> No.5858022

I took a test that said I have the vocabulary of a 50 year old (I'm 22). As a result sometimes I say things and conclude sentences that I expect a response to but instead people just stare at me. I then try to explain in simpler terms what I just said.

The real problem arises when I don't wait long enough for a response and explain something that doesn't need explaining. Then I look like an asshole. Anyway, a green text story.

>meet girl for coffee
>think she's kind of dumb
>start to amuse myself by asking her questions that will give me a sense of her psychological makeup
>she slows down in her answers
>I persist, prying deeper
>she asks me to please stop psychoanalyzing her
>suddenly become attracted to her but its too late

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5858119

>>5858022
>suddenly become attracted to her but its too late
How do I into psychoanalysis, anon?

>> No.5858134

>>5858119
I don't know, I'm not even good at it. I was just looking to be entertained. She didn't seem interesting until then though. I later found out she fills the majority of the markers for someone with genuine psychopathy.

>> No.5858149

>>5851983
good siht

>> No.5858150

>>5858134
That's crazy. Guess you dodged a bullet there.

>> No.5858167

>>5858150
Yeah... She was hot though. Volleyball player and two years younger than me. She was a runner too. Quite lithe. I do think though she might have cut my throat during sex like Rosamund Pike in Gone Girl. She was actually a lot like the amy character in looks and temperament.

>> No.5858192

>>5858134
>I later found out she fills the majority of the markers for someone with genuine psychopathy.

bad news friend if you're manipulating people to analyze them you may be one as well

>> No.5858201

>>5858192
Yeah, but I'm the fun kind of sociopath. The charismatic kind. Like Hans Landa.

>> No.5858237

>>5852724
I held literally the exact same stubborn belief when I was a teenager. Then I stopped being a teenager. And I stopped making up stories on 4chan just as an excuse to espouse my naive and narrow-minded view of art that I think has any credence behind it because I namedropped some well-known poets in my post.

>> No.5858267

>>5852724
This fucking faggot ass wannabe Romanticist pleb just denounced Shakespeare, T.S. Eliot, John Milton, and Walt Whitman in the same post and you smelly retards are congratulating him?

>> No.5858328

>>5856687
What does that "the darker the better" thing mean?
>my guess its "justedgelordstuff"

>> No.5858373

>>5858167
Damn, looks hot indeed but still a crazy bitch. Yanderes are not for rl.

>> No.5858629

>>5849064
My preferred method of speaking is minimalistic -- saying as few words as necessary -- with "interesting" word choices. I don't feel like I use a more extensive vocabulary, instead I feel like I use weird grammar.

The result is usually that people will ask me "huh?", but I can tell that they do in fact know exactly what I mean, and after I waste my breath saying the same thing two different ways, it becomes clear that they did actually know what I was saying.

It's wonderful when I find people who just go with it, but they're too rare

>> No.5859105

>tfw have a blog that everyone find funny
>tfw won a short story contest in my town
>tfw I'm hooking up a girl in bar and talking about literature she's amazed even if I'm talking about pleb writer

>> No.5859118

I start most of my friendships based on a mutual appreciation of careful word choice. I think it's one of the biggest shows 'my kind of people' have.

>> No.5859120

>be German living in Australia
>go clubbing
>ass drunk
>stumble into Japanese woman
>for some reason, talk about Ryunosuke Akutagawa and Kobo Abe (whom she didn't know)
>married for a year now

honestly, true story

>> No.5859127

>>5859120
Pics or I won't believe.

>> No.5859129

>>5859127
Then you shan't believe :)

>> No.5859156

I've become for my rants and put downs. Its an image I worked hard to craft.

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>>5849295
I got marked down in my last (ENGLISH LITERATURE) university essay for "archiec language". I suppose I better apologise to them for using long words that aren't "because."

> tfw when peers are plebs
> tfw only hit intellectual groove during gap year, now much too patrician for the university I'm at

>> No.5861643

>>5858629
absolutely know what you mean. I myself am only paying attention about half the time to things so many things catch me off guard, but I find all too often when talking to people if you say something loudly and clearly, they just do that "pretend not to understand" bullshit

>> No.5861658

>>5861109

english professors are not stupid. you were probably using unnecessary, showy language that didn't fit the context of the essay. writing well means, among other things, knowing what language to use and when to use it.

>> No.5861658,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>5861658
It wasn't marked by a professor

>> No.5861714

>>5859118
me too

>genuine friends whom one keeps for life

>> No.5861925

>>5856687
If only you Philosophy students could replace your pretensions of originality with "Isn't that what X said?" where X is a scientist.

At least those of you that quote other philosophers are discussing content rather than opinion.

>> No.5862160

>>5859118
>>5861714
how do you even get to know that they do that when you aren't friends from the start?